I did a search on this but only found one being accused of hacking and trying a maphack, im speaking in a general sense.
Ok guys, its time to own up! Did you use a wallhack in counter strike? Map hack in broodwar? Speedhack ? Aimbot? Whatever the hell. OWN UP!
-Im just interested on peoples views of hacks in different genres etc, if they've ever used them and the like.
This ONLY applies to online multiplayer games, although feel free to discuss "cheats" in SP
When i was 12 (or so) i was directed to download WoW and play on a private server with some friends, they sent me this program (that i know now as a speedhack) and told me to use it, but never if i saw a GM (which i could identify by seeing a lvl 255 on the who list) online. I was young and naive and it made me go super fast and get places quickly. Awesome! ... >.<
Nowadays i despise any sort of hack, online or offline (known as a cheat.) i feel sorry for the poor souls who do hack as they clearly have no social life or skills and do it for attention and to grief people. (Angsty teenagers who get bullied at school trying to "cyber-bully" trolol.)
Im even against using the funny cheats in GTA. Its so engraved into my head O.O
Your turn!
EDIT: Poll by request. Also, i dont care how ub3r l33t you were at CS or COD or <Insert game> but you hacked for "fun" - its the story of everyone on the internet, stop enlarging your epeen in my damn thread!
Poll: Have you hacked an online multiplayer game?
No, not at all, screw hackers to hell. (968)
58%
Yes, but once or twice when younger only. (578)
35%
Yes and i continue to do so. (72)
4%
No but ive thought / thinking about it. (37)
2%
1655 total votes
Your vote: Have you hacked an online multiplayer game?
(Vote): Yes, but once or twice when younger only. (Vote): No, not at all, screw hackers to hell. (Vote): Yes and i continue to do so. (Vote): No but ive thought / thinking about it.
I had a lot of friends who would maphack in Diable 2, but nope, I've never myself used hacks in a multiplayer game and tbh I've never understood the concept behind hacking SP games - you just ruin the fun for yourself...
I considered getting a double click bot to progress my "Drunkard" title in Guild Wars1 (anyone that played GW1 and maxed that title knows how much of a B***h it is), but I haven't. Other than that I haven't even considered cheating in any game
No, and I hate hate hate hate hackers. I used to play a lot of FPS in amateur competition and every time there was an anti-cheat update half the top teams got caught wallhacking. It really made me sad because teamwork, communication, and map awareness were such fun skills to master... but were completely ruined by the other team having a wallhacker describe the location of enemies.
Cheats? BW Single player campaign -> There is no cow level. BW custom game -> Black sheep wall + Food for thought + Show me the money x2 + Operation CWAL. Hahahahaha what a blast getting 80 guardians before the 12 minute mark
I used an autobuyer back when I played Neopets.Mind you this was at age twelve.
I remember accidently taking a screen shot of the autobuyer and posting in my page. Needless to say someone found it and about 30 different threads went up screaming blood murder, as I was kind of a big name in Neopets. (God that sounds so pathetic)
Haven't touched crap like that sense. Only cheats I use are in singleplayer when I'm bored
The only one I ever used was a diablo "trainer". I can't remember the exact name, but yeah, just gave me all the godly plate etc gear at lvl 1 on multiplayer. Not like it was hard to find someone to dupe it for ya anyways but that's the only hack I have ever used.
EDIT: I totally lied, I use to use a hack for Quake team fortress (OLD SCHOOL SON) that attached a flare to every enemy so I could see them through walls and floors etc.
By the end of warcraft, I played arranged teams with a friends with maphack. Was a lot of fun, since everyone and their mother had it. I remember one game when they pinged our army (you can see it) through the fog of war and then we accused them of mh and started to ping their armies too ahahahahaha Or surrounding an invisible warden with towers :D
Same as you OP, it is completely a non-question no matter what the benefits are. I don't understand the desire to obtain such an advantage when the satisfaction is obviously so much more real when you can say "I kick ass because of ME."
Achievment unlocker for TF2 when they did the medic patch to get the new weapons, i hate grinding in player vs player games and i really wish they didn't implement new weapons they way they did or the way it is now. Needless to say i don't play TF2: the hattening anymore.
Kind of. Not intentionally that I can rememeber, but I played a MMOFPS called "Planetside" and I had this issue where my (dual core) computer would cause me to have epic movement speed increases exactly 1 hour and 26 minutes into gameplay. A simple restart would fix the "speed hacks" though and I did that before every "battle."
Sure thing Maphack in d2, this goes for a lot of people I imagine. Also ran a pindlebot at one point, not sure if that counts.
Also bunch of quest cheats in gunz (spawning all the creeps in one area, invulnerability and massive pbaoe damage, basically clearing maps in like a second) to level up my new char to 50 after losing my first one due to forgetting login details
Pretty indifferent about both of those cases. First one was kind of a given, second was simply a workaround to recover my character.
maphack / lot of bots in diablo 2 and umm maphack in sc:bw but that was when i played fastest map possible. I even map hacked for a little while in dota way back in the day but thats cuz a lot of people did it at the time and i felt like it was the only way i could win haha. this was all before i turned 18 and grew the fuck up of course.
No but back when I was young and played CS 1.6 I was close to using it, I was playing some ranked games on a site and this guy cheated like there was no tomorrow. Even his teammates said it also, I got so angry after the games that I went searched on google for wallhacks but I calmed down before, and didn't download it. I think I quit playing for a couple of days though.
I used to play Vietcong and my videocard was pretty old and faulty. When i zoomed in with a sniper rifle i could see through walls and vegetation. It wasn't really intentional, but i guess you could consider it a hack..
On January 07 2012 10:54 Headshot wrote: Maphack in Diablo 2. Fucking Act 2..
act 3 was imo worse if you actually gathered the flail yourself...
Totally agree, unless you had someone to rush you that is, god i miss those days with my 97 paladin with all the pro farming gear.
MH on diablo was like a must have thing to progress through the game unless you wanted to take a life time to complete it ;D
Well, every levels besides the third (FUCKING JUNGLE WHERE ARE YOU STUPID SPIDER'S LAIR) are pretty straight hehe (especially the fifth, which was disappointing..
Used to do it in single player up until BW when i realized i was only cheating myself, Haven't done it since. Same thing applies to online, Im sure its a rush the first few times as it was in SP but in the end you realize you only do it because your bad and the guy you just faced is actually better than you.
On January 07 2012 11:04 MHT wrote: Im sure its a rush the first few times as it was in SP but in the end you realize you only do it because your bad and the guy you just faced is actually better than you.
Actually, this was the most hilarious part of it for me... ^^;; It doesn't really detract from your enjoyment when you don't really care about skill to begin with.
I scripted like a pro back in the day of UO. Spend half a day tracking down packmules, a runebook and making shovels; set up da home made mining script; Profitsss.
Now I think you just pay a monthly fee for UO and they send you a certificate of awesome and tell you you've beaten the game, brave adventurer.
Lite maphack in D2 obviously, just like everyone else, made the game much more enjoyable.
Botted D2 wayyyyy late in the games run tryin to generate some FG that me and friends could use in D3, that turned out to be a bit optimistic timelinewise. Then one of my buddies scammed a kid on JSP for about 12k and laundered the money by dumping it in all our accounts, this was unprovable but it turned out the kid was personal friends with Njaguar (creator of D2JSP), so every single one of our accounts was instantly banned with no inquiry. That was the end of that.
Downloaded hack pack for CSS and played with it for about 6 minutes before becoming bored and getting rid of it, hacking in FPS is so stupid boring, I really just thought the program was cool.
I once used Jamella for an open BN char in D2, but only for funsies. Was really fun to see like 10 guys around me trying to actually hit me. But only for like 30 mins, got boring pretty fast. Open BN was so shitty....
I cheated on Americas army once, I only did it on that super big bridge level with the high fog and was a giant stalemate. This was when the game first came out back in the early 2000's. Never cheated again. I used to play Day of Defeat competitively and people thought I cheated all the time, not just me but my team as well. We made it from CAL-IM to CAL-I in 2 seasons had multiple sponsors and was a top tier clan. Other than that I've only had people accuse me of using modded controllers on xbox but that wasn't true.
Fishing being essential for raiding and me not having endless time to spend. Consider it justified and would do it again if terrible game design forced me to do things like this again.
I used a maphack one game just to see what it was like in bw...felt like it made the game boring and i just threw the game so i wasnt screwing over the other guy by making what units that were countered by what he was making (lol mass mutas vs mass gols).
There's a game on neopets where you can make a script for tug of war ( spam all the keys you need via script... ) that's how the top 100 = max points... on that game...
I used aimbot for CS way back, for a couple of months until I got banned on steam for a year. Was in 2003-4 I think I have also used fishbots in WoW. and once tried a speedhack in some MMO that I can't even remember the name on, for a weekend.
Now I wouldn't use hacks in online/lan gaming against others since I know how annoying it can be to play against but I might be tempted to try trainers for some games now and again
Used to use hacks for Jedi Knight: Dark Forces 2. That game was simply way too easy to hack in. Me as a 12 year old could quite easily mod the machine gun to fire rockets instead of bullets in multiplayer, and I'm not in any way gifted at programming.
I used a wall hack in CS, but that's about it. I found it boring. I can't really see why hacking is so popular in MW3, when ranks don't really matter. :/
Maphack in Diablo 2 for MFing hell mephisto and rushing people through act 2. I've done Mephisto for long periods without maphack and it makes me want to cry
I can guarantee that far more people have hacked than they think, as anyone who played Pokemon Red or Blue and messed around with missingno technically hacked. That's it for me though :D
On January 07 2012 11:11 Derez wrote: Fishing bots in WoW.
Fishing being essential for raiding and me not having endless time to spend. Consider it justified and would do it again if terrible game design forced me to do things like this again.
Auction House....? Most people I know who fish bot, do it when they're not playing... But when they play all they do is hang out in major cities, which is pathetic.(Herp Derp I need fish... But I hate fishing, so I'm going to waste time running around org and claim that I don't have time to fish) I did my own fishing myself, I found it pretty fun. (Compared to hanging out in Org)
I used a maphack in Diablo 2 and a dupe hack for Diablo 2...I was 8 and kept being told that it was "normal" to do so until I got yelled at in-game by someone who told me it was illegal and I didn't want to go to jail.... My older brother has always really been into hacks, which is why I had those hacks in the first place... I would never go out of my way to hack, I also really hate cheaters/hackers/botters now.
Not once because I play a (multiplayer) game to compete with other players and have fun and well half of the enjoyment is gone for me if I were to hack :p
I hacked for a couple weeks in CS 1.5 just to see what it was like, holy crap. This was about 8-9 years ago lol
Really didn't make the game fun, threw em away once they lost their luster. Never thought about using a hack again, made it seem like the game wasn't worth playing.
Oh, I did use an external script in order to automate fishing in WoW back in vanilla so I could fish the stonescale eels for defense pots, most people would call that a hack I guess.
On January 07 2012 11:11 Derez wrote: Fishing bots in WoW.
Fishing being essential for raiding and me not having endless time to spend. Consider it justified and would do it again if terrible game design forced me to do things like this again.
Auction House....? Most people I know who fish bot, do it when they're not playing... But when they play all they do is hang out in major cities, which is pathetic.(Herp Derp I need fish... But I hate fishing, so I'm going to waste time running around org and claim that I don't have time to fish) I did my own fishing myself, I found it pretty fun. (Compared to hanging out in Org)
I used a maphack in Diablo 2 and a dupe hack for Diablo 2...I was 8 and kept being told that it was "normal" to do so until I got yelled at in-game by someone who told me it was illegal and I didn't want to go to jail.... My older brother has always really been into hacks, which is why I had those hacks in the first place... I would never go out of my way to hack, I also really hate cheaters/hackers/botters now.
You might actually be clinically insane if you legitimately enjoyed fishing in WoW. WoW is pretty boring but finding enjoyment in fishing is incredible. Incredible as in I don't believe you.
In MW2 my friends knew how to do custom matches that gave you exp and i played that a ton. i dont know if its a hack or more of a glitch because there was no outside program used just kind of glitched the system out maybe? i never knew how to make it happen they just invited me lol.
I got in a HUGE fight with my dad/stepmom/stepbro because they wanted to buy us modded controlers. I wasn't trying to be ungrateful, but I dont want them to waste money on something that will get me banned on XboX live. The person selling the modded controlers conviced my stepmother that there was no way you could get banned from this shit. Luckily, I conviced my sane dad to not buy them.
Yes I've used hacks for Mapelestory. lvl 1-120 in 3 days
The sad thing is that you can get to 120 without hacks in 3 days now, lol.
Cheated in: Maplestory, Combat Arms, Neopets (tried to, at least), Gaia Online (bump old thread bot thingy), flash games (if that counts lmao), Skyrim <3 Every game I play on PC except Starcraft II <3 (didn't play SC1)
I'll go from the most inoffensive to most disgusting and despicable...
1- I used to maphack in Diablo 2. I never thought this was bad and I still don't. I don't care how the game is intended to be played if I don't hurt anybody. I want to have fun.
2- I used some CS 1.6 hacks, initially out of curiosity on what it looked like and how it worked. I ended up messing around with it on unprotected CS servers - mostly to catch other hackers. Nothing to be proud of though - I killed a lot of "legit" people and that's just awful of me. I make myself feel better by thinking anyway, only bad people play on VAC-free servers. Still pretty shitty even though I probably did it for only 30-45 mins. I was a very very good CS player without hacks 7-8 years ago.
3- In Diablo 2, I had some program that would automatically pick up good items that were dropped. I'd always get all the high runes and unique drops wherever I went. Really awful of me.
4- This is by far the worst thing, I feel bad about it. In Diablo 2 I had a drophack which would drop people out of games. It could be used in Act 2. Since the charm annihilus is impossible to trade in the trade window, people used this method where both people drop the item and run to pick up the other person's item. I would drop my annihilus, they would drop their item and I would boot them from the game, picking back up both items. I think back and I feel awful... I really don't have an excuse. I once literally cried in my mother's arms when I traded a truckload of stuff for a duped Tyrael's Might. Diablo 2 was full of awful folks.
Edit: I also used farm bots in Diablo 2, not sure where to put it on the list but yeah, it farmed SOJs while I was in school and while I was sleeping.
Cheat whenever I feel like it will keep an otherwise uninteresting game interesting - only in single player of course (or with friends cheating as well, since they couldnt macro in age of empires lol).
Never used any kind of multiplayer cheat, and never will. Cheating to me is one of the lowest things you can do as a person, since it undermines the hard work and experience of everyone you are playing with.
I don't really use cheats in single player either, ever since I had a NES Game Genie, it just wasn't fun for me. I didn't even like using the Contra 30 lives trick, I wanted to beat it using the 3 default lives like the sadistic game developers intended. I don't find satisfaction in beating a game using cheats.
I guess you could say that this counts as hacking....
A couple years ago, I used to play a shitload of WarCraft 3. Now, I am talking about the original Frozen Throne, no DOTA shit. I was never particularly good at it, and neither were my friends, but that didn't stop us from becoming incredibly competitive about who would win in a 1v1. Our games would last up to around three hours (no joke), because we wanted to have a long-ass game, usually with 100/100 supply and level 8-10 heroes. We would also go on the 12 player maps, since there are more creeps and farther distances. Basically, we sucked (playing as orcs and spamming 5 layers of watch towers to the chokes to your base FTW).
Anyway, I became pretty handy-dandy with the map editor. So of course what I did, was load up the 12 player map "Divide and Conquer" and put in a trigger that if the player with the name string "CyDe" stop in an exact location on the map and typed the chat string "pwnt" or "lolzor," his hero would level up and the best item in the game would spawn. So I did this... multiple times. To prove some points to my friends: a) I was much better than them (typical adolescent shit). and b) I was an uber leet haxor (this was more for myself. But more typical adolescent shit).
So I mean, technically that is a "hack," although I am much more tempted to call it "cheating" and "acting like a jack off." It was all in good fun of course (it wasn't like we were betting or anything), but it is kind of depressing to see my self-esteem relied on who was the better WarCraft 3 player.
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I have to admit though I pretty proud of my leet map editor skills .
EDIT: Oh I forgot about when I played WoW. I did use the Pyrox Fish Bot, because I really didn't have the time nor lack of brain cells to level up my fishing. Fuck that, the game sucked enough time out of me already, fishing would pretty much involve me sitting for ten hours, jerkin it with one hand, and clicking on the goddamn floater with the other.
The fish bot ended up not working after a while, but I got my fishing up to like 287... a clear indicator to the average WoW player that I am more of loser than they are.
I've used hacks before, but I was like 10 at the time. There was a hack in delta force that would let you jump like 20000 feet in the air without dying on falls, and could fire your weapons instantly. I could jump high into the sky and fire 26 grenades in lines carpet bombing the enemy spawn. Shenanigans ensued!
no i have not. I did use an in game ladder glitch in Socom 1 (ps2 online) tho that allowed you to get "under" the map and shoot your opponents. I only used it to kill opposing players who were abusing it. most glitches and hacks were fixed in socom 2 (socom 1 was very glitchy).
I hacked in sc when I was hmm.. 13? Stack hack was kinda fun, having 20 or so cannons at the front of your base merged into 1. Also used the name spoofer on Asia server a few times, called myself SlayerS_`BoxeR` etc ^_^;;
This was years ago tho, don't even use cheats in offline games now. The exception being using operation cwal/show me the money etc when working out forge expand placements in single player.
On January 07 2012 10:56 1Eris1 wrote: I used an autobuyer back when I played Neopets.Mind you this was at age twelve.
I remember accidently taking a screen shot of the autobuyer and posting in my page. Needless to say someone found it and about 30 different threads went up screaming blood murder, as I was kind of a big name in Neopets. (God that sounds so pathetic)
Haven't touched crap like that sense. Only cheats I use are in singleplayer when I'm bored
You bastard. I RS'ed my soul out the right way and still only made a few mil.
I was always convinced most of the big names used autobuyers though, lol. Did the threads go up in the BD board? Hahahaha, oh god, that was the shit.
The only cheat I ever did for multiplayer (sort of) was using Rare Candy cheats (Cinnabar Island, PC duplication, etc.) in Pokemon to get Lvl 100 Pokemon and using them in fights with my friends.
I use the thing that allows you to know who hasn't downloaded the map in Broodwar.
And always used a maphack in Diablo 2. In fact, I don't know anyo serious D2 players that did not. It was just so normal and natural... mostly because the game has been reduced to pure farming.
EDIT: I forgot that I botted a bit in Diablo 2, too. I barely consider it hacking anyway. In fact, I barely consider Diablo 2 multiplayer a game, and regret wasting so many hours farming shit to trade for runes, while dupers just made them out of thin air and raped the economy...
And I actually hacked in Diablo 1 with the good ol' Bobafett trainer.
On January 07 2012 11:18 knyttym wrote: Maphack in Diablo 2 for MFing hell mephisto and rushing people through act 2. I've done Mephisto for long periods without maphack and it makes me want to cry
That's when you get a bot + get all the required equipment for bot ---> a few other chars on separate accounts+ get extra keys ---> get those other ones up... and run all the bots...
On January 07 2012 11:40 crown77 wrote: starcraft II feels like starcraft broodwar with hacks minus map hack HAHA
it's basically starcraft with multicommand and automine
Anyway, I used maphack in D2 like everyone else. Baal runs were a real bitch without one.
I've raided Mephisto like a little bitch. Perhaps it was because I wasn't using any hacks at all and he was the easiest one to defeat and had shortest route.
My steam account is still banned from some servers...now let me explain myself! I used an aimbot and wallhack in cs 1.6..it was a "all-in-one" hack. Now it's ironic because a few weeks after I stopped using it altogether, I get falsely accused of hacking and subsequently banned from my fav server
Oh and I used a pindlebot and MH in D2. Never got caught, but never got anything good either.
Oh and I used to have a hack that detected if others were allied/allied vision in SC1. Useful to stop backstabbing in compstomps.
Oh and finally I made my own drunk hack in Guild Wars. Pretty easy to make and again, never got caught. This was mostly to save my own time, not to cheat persay.
Oh and similar to someone who posted above.. in WC3 I modified a lot of my favorite maps to have certain phrases that would give me benefits... and then I'd re-encrypt these maps so noone else could figure out what the phrase was. I'd type these things in observer chat to activate them. And if certain maps had cheat phrases already built into the map...let's just say I'd go to extreme lengths to figure out what the phrase was (x hero siege, pimp hero d, etc.). Damn I had so much spare time when I was little.
About 2 years ago there was an honor bot going round in WoW where it would queue up for a battleground and run around like an idiot until it was over, it was so popular you could spot every person using one at the start of every BG. This was when they had special weekends to grind honor, where you would get double honor and get so many honor points. I used one for about a day in AV weekend, fuck that battleground. Eventually Blizzard caught on and banned the honor bot and added features to ban players for acting idol or weird in bg's.
OH shi-- I forgot about how a friend and I would bot each other around a MUD in which botting is frowned upon (trigger zombie style). Not to mention I was and am still buddy buddy with the admin. Although this doesn't hurt other players directly (pvp disincentivized in this MUD) it does interfere with the game 'ecosystem' if you will, making it possible to grind xp for two people with one person at the wheel.
On January 07 2012 11:11 Derez wrote: Fishing bots in WoW.
Fishing being essential for raiding and me not having endless time to spend. Consider it justified and would do it again if terrible game design forced me to do things like this again.
Auction House....? Most people I know who fish bot, do it when they're not playing... But when they play all they do is hang out in major cities, which is pathetic.(Herp Derp I need fish... But I hate fishing, so I'm going to waste time running around org and claim that I don't have time to fish) I did my own fishing myself, I found it pretty fun. (Compared to hanging out in Org)
I used a maphack in Diablo 2 and a dupe hack for Diablo 2...I was 8 and kept being told that it was "normal" to do so until I got yelled at in-game by someone who told me it was illegal and I didn't want to go to jail.... My older brother has always really been into hacks, which is why I had those hacks in the first place... I would never go out of my way to hack, I also really hate cheaters/hackers/botters now.
At least it was orgrimmar, not some pesky alliance camp.
I stopped playing sc1 mainly because of the map hacks, what was the drophack all about ?
When I was a kid I used to cheat the hell out of age of empires 1&2 single player. Good old legit cheat codes ^_^ Then I played medal of honor: allied assault, and my friend sent me wall hacks and some lean mod that made me lean in that direction when I pressed A and D. It basically made me look like a banana swirling left and right when I was fighting with someone. 1/20 were a hacker or an aim botter in that game though, so I don't feel bad in the slightest to be honest.
On January 07 2012 10:56 1Eris1 wrote: I used an autobuyer back when I played Neopets.Mind you this was at age twelve.
I remember accidently taking a screen shot of the autobuyer and posting in my page. Needless to say someone found it and about 30 different threads went up screaming blood murder, as I was kind of a big name in Neopets. (God that sounds so pathetic)
Haven't touched crap like that sense. Only cheats I use are in singleplayer when I'm bored
You bastard. I RS'ed my soul out the right way and still only made a few mil.
I was always convinced most of the big names used autobuyers though, lol. Did the threads go up in the BD board? Hahahaha, oh god, that was the shit.
The only cheat I ever did for multiplayer (sort of) was using Rare Candy cheats (Cinnabar Island, PC duplication, etc.) in Pokemon to get Lvl 100 Pokemon and using them in fights with my friends.
Yess!!! Oh my god it was hilarious. BD forum was like Battlenet forums except it also had the occasional six year besides just straight 80% 13 year olds
And yeah I was in several pretty established guilds and most of the good people in them autobot or got extremely lucky with something. (buy a super attack pea with dubloons from the one shop, make 200 mil and be set for life -.-.)
I mean, there was just no way those big guys could RS THAT much.
Shortly after I started playing bw a friend of mine showed me a maphack he had downloaded and to my uttermost disgrace I have to admit that I used it for about two weeks when I used to play fastest possible map. Then I realized that it breaks the game and stopped using it. I never used maphack on normal maps. I also used LOD maphack for about a week, but then I got bored of the game and never played it again online.
I got two back in the day, both i find harmless and didnt do for longer then an hour.
Was a competitive played in cod 1 but sometimes we'd flip on developer commands during scrims against certain teams and just no clip to the most ridiculous spots or speed plant bombsites for shits and giggles, its was fucking hilarious because some people thought we were that good being in cal-i.
Also back in cod 1 days me and one of my teammates use to always scrim with pugs in cs1.6 so we decided one day to shit around with aim bot in a few scrims. aim bot got pretty old really fast though, but damn could you do insane shit with it. double wall headshot? no problem!
I cheat in SP like a mofo, i usually get to bored of SP to beat it legit. I think SC2 is the only rts i beat legit ever because i didnt know about cheats lol...
Used all the CS hacks numerous times lol... eventually I was banned for 6 months from 1.6. Many games were played with aimbot/wallhack/lampbert/whatever else being used by everyone (friends and people from school), all trying to make it look like fair play. It was tremendous fun.
edit: oh, if we're doing single player also, I admit I get fed up with the amount of 'survive x minutes' missions in BW/WC3/SC2 and tend to just 'there is no cow level' them from time to time ^_^. Outside of those maps I haven't used any in single player.
When I was young and naive and was first starting to play broodwar, I swore everyone I played with/against did it, so I started to use a map hack in 2v2 fastest map games. I grew out of this pretty quickly and started playing legit.
Final Fantasy 11 Online: (incoming wall o' text)
I was a leader in one of the games most dominant linkshells(FFXI's name for a guild). There were 3 mobs known as, "The 3 Kings" which spawned once every 21-24 hours. Every 3-7 days of normal spawns, there was a chance of the next spawn to be the HQ version, a harder version with more rare/better drops. These mobs were highly coveted and contested for and the instant it would spawn there would be between 40-100 people spamming abilities of all kinds to claim it for their linkshell. For a long while, the best way to win claim of these was to edit the game files and replace .dat's of passive mobs around the area so that in game, you could not even see them, so that once the king would spawn, it was all you could see and all you could target, rather than having to cycle targets until finding what you were looking for.
Then came a nifty little program which could read the packets coming to the client from the server and could claim mobs before they were even visible to players. It was well known that any hardcore linkshell competing for these mobs was using this. As such myself and many others within my own linkshell used it as well. I long wished that I was the only one in possession of this program, since I wanted so bad for my linkshell to dominate every other which contested us. If I had my way, no one other than my own would have ever killed these mobs.
There was also another program called FleeTool which allowed players move so fast that most people would never even be able to see them run past. It also made it possible to set waypoints in the world in which you could teleport to at the click of a button. My only use of this tool was in an area where in order to spawn a mob you had to search many areas for a "???" that would spawn randomly and change position after a very brief period of time. So I'd set waypoints at each possible spawn and teleport around to find it. The games GM's eventually took notice of all the people who used this tool and started suspending accounts and I got a warning for my use of it and never used it again.
Those are the only hacks/cheats I've used in an online setting. I find it funny in a sense that I was never accused of using cheats/hacks in either of those games, but during my Battlefield 2 run I was accused and banned a countless number of times for simply being good. Now that I am older and more mature, I will never hack/cheat in a game.
Diablo2 East Hardcore, all about TPPK triggers and hacks that allowed you to hotkey spells to buttons and not just the mouse clicks
World of Warcraft botted for 6years and in the very early days abused duping hacks that allowed you to DE an item an infinite number of times with the item never being destroyed
Used to have a hacked PS2 that allowed any region play and gameshark like cheats on all games, I used it to play all the Resident Evil games with a skin of Agent Scully for the main chars.
Does anyone remember any codes for Rapid Racer? I know only one... (this must've been a great game if I still remember some cheat codes for it after 14 years since its release)
Oh WOW I totally forgot about my WoW botting... Just read through the thread and remember that I was a serious botter in WoW.
I had the full paid bot it would auto mine/herb/arch etc. for you, PvP for you and of course fish for you... that was the free one though. It was a real quality bot though never got banned for it, and I would use the gold that I got from botting, sell it for real money and then pay for my WoW subscription and the bot subscription, I didn't have to pay for WoW for a whole year or so.
I don't really feel that bad about it since it wasn't a direct mulitplayer game like starcraft or any other FPS is, if that makes any sense : /
i was pretty fucking good in counter strike and there was this german league called ESPL, being really big (actually, ESPL is the league behind home story cup and IEM, now being called ESL)... many many years ago they didn't have any protections against fake accounts, so me and my 2on2 buddy (who i played 2on2s with for like 7 years now) thought it would be funny to hack the ladder. so we did .
goddamn it was amusing... i remember someone was making a thread about us on the mTw forum, which was the german team liquid for esports in general. really amusing, but not as good as legitely destroying everyone.
in Halo 2 i would join lobbies with hacked/modded things going on like a plasma pistol shooting out warthogs or a battle rifle shooting wraith(covenant vehicle) plasma shots etc.etc. really fun, learned how to quickly glitch outta levels during ranked matches and picking off people.
I don't think I'll ever put so much time into a game like i did Halo 2
Used auto-aim and the works in COD 1 after the game started dying off. Used Cheat Engine while playing Maple Story(Comon, its impossible to progress in this game), those were the days! And to some extent "hacked" in Source games, mainly DODS and CSS for the fun
Starcraft: maphack on fast maps, cause I was tired of getting psi dropped every single game and doxstar (if you want to count it as a hack, but nearly 50% of the people I know used that). single player cheats in AoE and thats it.
Maphacked in DotA because I got maphacked in DotA.
Felt fair for me at the time. Of course it was retarded. The people I played with and talked via Skype also all maphacked. We didn't try to hide it, and freely attacked invisible people and shit. We all hated it though.
And I played WC1 when I was like 4 years old and its cheats were the first words I could "write" on the PC (my 2 years older brother wrote them down, and I compared the symbols).
Pot of Gold and Iron Forge.
I remember once, I wanted to build streets all over the map and had to retype Pot of Gold, made me angry.
When I was younger, I remember using a trainer for Diablo, if only to mess around a bit. Only hack I've ever used, though I did briefly play on a private WoW server (not really hacking) and I have used cheats extensively in the past.
On January 07 2012 10:56 1Eris1 wrote: I used an autobuyer back when I played Neopets.Mind you this was at age twelve.
I remember accidently taking a screen shot of the autobuyer and posting in my page. Needless to say someone found it and about 30 different threads went up screaming blood murder, as I was kind of a big name in Neopets. (God that sounds so pathetic)
Haven't touched crap like that sense. Only cheats I use are in singleplayer when I'm bored
The worst I've done is penguinplguin for BW. Technically it's a hack as one time my opponent started killing himself and calling me a hacker for doing so. The true irony in this is, it only killed your opponent if he was map hacking haha
On January 07 2012 12:16 Mvrio wrote: in Halo 2 i would join lobbies with hacked/modded things going on like a plasma pistol shooting out warthogs or a battle rifle shooting wraith(covenant vehicle) plasma shots etc.etc. really fun, learned how to quickly glitch outta levels during ranked matches and picking off people.
I don't think I'll ever put so much time into a game like i did Halo 2
I used to do the same thing loved doing that stuff get out side the map was the best thing about the older games... now it's a lot harder
On January 07 2012 12:16 Disregard wrote: Used auto-aim and the works in COD 1 after the game started dying off. Used Cheat Engine while playing Maple Story(Comon, its impossible to progress in this game), those were the days! And to some extent "hacked" in Source games, mainly DODS and CSS for the fun
Hahaha I was an admin in a pretty popular vcod server shortly after the height of cod1 wonder if I banned you at any point
Never cheated in multiplayer, but I take great pleasure in being occasionally accused of doing so. One of the better compliments you can get from your opponent... assuming you're not cheating .
I hacked on BW. Map hack mainly I used. I'd also use the one that gave you enemy resources. And the stack hack was fun.
I don't know what you mean by "must have no social life or social skills"? Why is that? I found having these things fun and I thought using them was an interesting experience. I didn't take the game that seriously to feel like I was cheating something meaningful. The periods when I would use hacks were usually times when I was bad and wasn't taking the game seriously. The idea of using some advantage in a non-serious game which I wasn't good at anyways didn't seem like a big deal. I guess I just didn't see anyone as a victim.
In other aspects of life (school, work, money, etc), I can't even bring myself close to cheating. The idea is just so shameful to me, I hate thinking about it. But that's because I find these to be more meaningful things which I take seriously. And I think these things have real consequences, and I'd feel like my peers were victims of it if I were to cheat.
I wouldn't take back my BW hacking. Honestly, I'd probably try them out again if it were convenient to find them. I've dealt with many hackers in BW games over the years, and I just never really cared.
Never hacked but me and my borther discovered that you could enable cheats in LAN AoM so we had a cheat battle where both of us just spammed god powers and all the other cheats we could come up with as quickly as we could type Bawk bawk boom !
On January 07 2012 12:15 RelZo wrote: Used multi-command once vs the computer once just to see what it's like.
I felt dirty afterwards.
pretty sure thats single player, also a friend of mine and i once played a game of bw against each other with multi-command hacks on (both of us, so its not cheating since both have the same adv) that was the only multiplayer game i've ever used hacks on and that game was hilarious since we were all so bad then we ended up mining out blue storm and contesting the middle with "insane" army movement xD it was fun but only because we both had the advantage
On January 07 2012 12:20 Plexa wrote: The worst I've done is penguinplguin for BW. Technically it's a hack as one time my opponent started killing himself and calling me a hacker for doing so. The true irony in this is, it only killed your opponent if he was map hacking haha
On January 07 2012 12:24 Befree wrote: I hacked on BW. Map hack mainly I used. I'd also use the one that gave you enemy resources. And the stack hack was fun.
I don't know what you mean by "must have no social life or social skills"? Why is that? I found having these things fun and I thought using them was an interesting experience. I didn't take the game that seriously to feel like I was cheating something meaningful. The periods when I would use hacks were usually times when I was bad and wasn't taking the game seriously. The idea of using some advantage in a non-serious game which I wasn't good at anyways didn't seem like a big deal. I guess I just didn't see anyone as a victim.
In other aspects of life (school, work, money, etc), I can't even bring myself close to cheating. The idea is just so shameful to me, I hate thinking about it. But that's because I find these to be more meaningful things which I take seriously. And I think these things have real consequences, and I'd feel like my peers were victims of it if I were to cheat.
I wouldn't take my BW hacking. Honestly, I'd probably try them out again if it were convenient to find them. I've dealt with many hackers in BW games over the years, and I just never really cared.
Yes because pissing someone off, ruining their experience and wasting their time is 100% OK!
Do not try to tell me that "its not serious so it doesnt matter" - they are doing it for enjoyment and you are robbing it from them, your also robbing their time.
You clearly dont give a S**t about other people. Hence "must have no social life or social skills" your the latter i suppose because you dont take into account other people at all and are extremely selfish for your own gain at others expense.
I used hacks in the game 9dragons if anyone ever played that. I got lucky though, I met guys who actually make hacks for games for a living and they actually made a hack only for us 3 to use. It got patched in like a week but we were the only ones who actually had it since they created it. I would post their website here to show they are legit hackers but don't want to advertise here. They were pretty cool guys, haven't talked to them in a while.
I downloaded a version of CS 1.5, and i found this just by mistake, but when i pressed the F11 key, a list came up to turn on white mode, see through walls, auto head-shot, that kind of thing, with a very easy to use interface....i'm sure there were more options in there, I remember just buying a Para 100 round machine gun and running around getting head shots, or AWP's and sniping people through walls with a head shot. I only did it for like a week, and never used it again, really weird tho....i didnt go out of my way to install that stuff.....just stumbled upon it.
As far as Starcraft goes, in BW i never online cheated, but in SP i did the obvious poweroverwhelming stuff, in Starcraft 2 i never have cheated either, but i played with a guy in a 3v3 once who was a map hacker, and warned us a allin was coming cuz he saw the map, told us the units that were coming, and we ROFL Stomped it....so i guess that was cheating, but it wasnt my choice to do it, but once you have that information you cant not react to it
Not in any sort of player v player scenario MMO or multiplayer FPS/etc. I used to volunteer for an MMO company testing out and finding hacks and reporting them though, so I have used them in that manner.
I cheated when I first started playing TF2. I used it to figure the game out faster: which routes people took, where sentries typically were constructed and where spies liked to hide.
I did some duplication in d2 but thats all I can recall. I only played offline so im not sure if it counts. But even that was years ago.
Only recent thing I can think of now is in skyrim. I was fighting an elder dragon in some random field and while I was hiding behind rocks and running around, my horse ran off somewhere. I couldnt find it anywhere so I used a consol code to teleport me to it. I found it dead in the middle of a giant camp. Lolol
Map hacked in diablo 2 briefly (~2 weeks) and then got scared of Warden and stopped. but I played so much I ended up knowing most terrain sets for each place anyway lol.
Never in multiplayer but single player.Oh yes.Age Of Mythology,Doom,Age Of Empires 1 & 2 and some other.I cheated on Alien vs Predator 2 as well since cheating in that game was actually really awesome.In that game were 3 campaigns : alien, marine and predator.You could enable cheats so you could play through alien campaign as marine or through marine campaign as predator and so on so it's actually awesome.Also Grand Theft Auto - who hasn't cheated in that game lol.Half the game is about the cheats and the ridiculous things you could do using the cheats. 1)Enter the code that allows vehicles to fly 2)Spawn tank 3)Direct the turret directly behind you 4)Start shooting 5)??? 6)Profit
On January 07 2012 10:50 Capped wrote: I did a search on this but only found one being accused of hacking and trying a maphack, im speaking in a general sense.
Ok guys, its time to own up! Did you use a wallhack in counter strike? Map hack in broodwar? Speedhack ? Aimbot? Whatever the hell. OWN UP!
-Im just interested on peoples views of hacks in different genres etc, if they've ever used them and the like.
This ONLY applies to online multiplayer games, although feel free to discuss "cheats" in SP
When i was 12 (or so) i was directed to download WoW and play on a private server with some friends, they sent me this program (that i know now as a speedhack) and told me to use it, but never if i saw a GM (which i could identify by seeing a lvl 255 on the who list) online. I was young and naive and it made me go super fast and get places quickly. Awesome! ... >.<
Nowadays i despise any sort of hack, online or offline (known as a cheat.) i feel sorry for the poor souls who do hack as they clearly have no social life or skills and do it for attention and to grief people. (Angsty teenagers who get bullied at school trying to "cyber-bully" trolol.)
Im even against using the funny cheats in GTA. Its so engraved into my head O.O
Your turn!
EDIT: Poll by request. Also, i dont care how ub3r l33t you were at CS or COD or <Insert game> but you hacked for "fun" - its the story of everyone on the internet, stop enlarging your epeen in my damn thread!
Poll: Have you hacked an online multiplayer game?
No, not at all, screw hackers to hell. (968)
58%
Yes, but once or twice when younger only. (578)
35%
Yes and i continue to do so. (72)
4%
No but ive thought / thinking about it. (37)
2%
1655 total votes
Your vote: Have you hacked an online multiplayer game?
(Vote): Yes, but once or twice when younger only. (Vote): No, not at all, screw hackers to hell. (Vote): Yes and i continue to do so. (Vote): No but ive thought / thinking about it.
Yes, I have in the past. If you were on a private server why would you run into a GM perhaps that server had it's own GMs? In any case perhaps everyone used it on that server which makes it a level playing field meaning that the people that hosted the private server wanted a different game than the one that Blizzard produced.
I don't hack or glitch in any online game because it devalues another player's gameplay. But I also don't use rock launcher or "noob tubes" in COD because I find them cheap while others do as the please, so to each their own.
Now, you assuming that those who use hacks are "anti-social" or "griefers" to what ends is it that I playing my own game offline using a cheat mean I can't deal in social situations and who am I griefing then? Myself?
You really didn't come to any logical conclusion about cheating I don't really see the point of this thread.
Nope, never, I have hacked several times in single player, usually in games where I don't have the patience to play it through, but hacking or any form of cheating in multi-player kills the competitive spirit.
I used to use edits in Battlezone, it was a 1998 fps rts crossover based on space, you were in a tank but you used number hotkeys to command buildings to build and units to attack defend follow or gather resources, I used it in random minigames to get extra weapons. To my knowlegde there are still people who play BZ online.
Only in SP games as a kid, including BW campaign. I was a Gameshark addict. I went through console games by the dozen without really playing them, buying a new one every week or even every few days. Got bored of games entirely until last year got into BW again and then a into SC2 as well, what a huge waste of money when I was younger though...
On January 07 2012 10:50 Capped wrote: I did a search on this but only found one being accused of hacking and trying a maphack, im speaking in a general sense.
Ok guys, its time to own up! Did you use a wallhack in counter strike? Map hack in broodwar? Speedhack ? Aimbot? Whatever the hell. OWN UP!
-Im just interested on peoples views of hacks in different genres etc, if they've ever used them and the like.
This ONLY applies to online multiplayer games, although feel free to discuss "cheats" in SP
When i was 12 (or so) i was directed to download WoW and play on a private server with some friends, they sent me this program (that i know now as a speedhack) and told me to use it, but never if i saw a GM (which i could identify by seeing a lvl 255 on the who list) online. I was young and naive and it made me go super fast and get places quickly. Awesome! ... >.<
Nowadays i despise any sort of hack, online or offline (known as a cheat.) i feel sorry for the poor souls who do hack as they clearly have no social life or skills and do it for attention and to grief people. (Angsty teenagers who get bullied at school trying to "cyber-bully" trolol.)
Im even against using the funny cheats in GTA. Its so engraved into my head O.O
Your turn!
EDIT: Poll by request. Also, i dont care how ub3r l33t you were at CS or COD or <Insert game> but you hacked for "fun" - its the story of everyone on the internet, stop enlarging your epeen in my damn thread!
Poll: Have you hacked an online multiplayer game?
No, not at all, screw hackers to hell. (968)
58%
Yes, but once or twice when younger only. (578)
35%
Yes and i continue to do so. (72)
4%
No but ive thought / thinking about it. (37)
2%
1655 total votes
Your vote: Have you hacked an online multiplayer game?
(Vote): Yes, but once or twice when younger only. (Vote): No, not at all, screw hackers to hell. (Vote): Yes and i continue to do so. (Vote): No but ive thought / thinking about it.
Yes, I have in the past. If you were on a private server why would you run into a GM perhaps that server had it's own GMs? In any case perhaps everyone used it on that server which makes it a level playing field meaning that the people that hosted the private server wanted a different game than the one that Blizzard produced.
I don't hack or glitch in any online game because it devalues another player's gameplay. But I also don't use rock launcher or "noob tubes" in COD because I find them cheap while others do as the please, so to each their own.
Now, you assuming that those who use hacks are "anti-social" or "griefers" to what ends is it that I playing my own game offline using a cheat mean I can't deal in social situations and who am I griefing then? Myself?
You really didn't come to any logical conclusion about cheating I don't really see the point of this thread.
This ONLY applies to online multiplayer games, although feel free to discuss "cheats" in SP
*Sigh* My opinion is my opinion, if your hacking in a multiplayer game, you either have no regard for the people your shitting all over (Social skills.) or have some issue with people in general that you want to "get back" at them in a virtual game. (Bad social life.) again, my opinion.
And once again, none of this applies to "cheating" (Single player version of a hack is my definition of it.), i just said i myself dont do it as i dont enjoy it. I just "touched" on it because they are linked...
BTW, the point of this thread (As 9 pages of people DIDNT fail to realise.) is to tell people what naughty things you've done in the past. I tend to think ive made a decent thread and not a "pointless" one worthy of closing for a number of reasons.
-Mod posted. -9 pages in under an hour. -People asking me to update the op with a poll to allow us to track our fun findings.
Yep. Used Maphack in Diablo 2 (who didn't?) when I played years ago. I've written automated scripts for other (smaller) games, mostly for menial/grindy tasks that required little attention. I did this mostly for the satisfaction of getting the script to actually work than to get any use out of it :|. I also wrote a script in CS 1.6 that would allow me to configure a menu of text commands so I could use them instead of a mic, since I couldn't talk on a mic without waking the family up (sort of like binding text to a key, but with the interactivity of radio commands so you could use less keys for more messages depending on the input sequence).
Yes I have hacked, but not online. I've messed with hacks in a few different games just to see how they work. My theory is, if you know how the hacks work it'll be a lot easier to catch hackers, and it definitely opened my eyes to some subtle things that hackers do.
Hacks? Wouldn't even want to dream of touching 'em.
I've cheated on a small number of NDS games on an emulator. For good reason too. I'm not gonna spend another whopping 10 hours virus busting just to get a few Battle Cards or filling up my Pokedex for an extra. And I dicked around in FFTA2 by having 99x of the very best equipment for all my characters >_>
lol if terraria counts, then I still do. hacked clients that let me do sandbox stuff quicker. I've already done everything through the normal way. No harm in using hacks to get even more content and fun out of the game.
not gonna lie, played maplestory long time ago and killing monsters to lvl up took sooooo long so i used a hack where all the monsters get gathered into one little spot everytime they spawn so i can just one shot kill them all at once to lvl up
Patch 5 for AQ40 in WoW after having cleared Naxx. D:
Then archaeology/fishing/leveling bot in Cata along with about 40% of the population.
Nothing that ever affected other people though, like PvPing or auctions or speed hacking. Just extra prep for raiding, because the rest of WoW is an extremely tedious and dull game.
We got flamed for it but the idea that there was a moral aspect was pretty ridiculous. It had zero impact on the server outside of saving us a few hours, and all of our serious raiding was being monitored by GMs. We knew what the rules were and decided it was worth it to break them, so no one complained about getting caught. And we had a lot of sympathy from the other top raiding guilds who knew and felt the stupidity of Blizzard's Atiesh setup.
I think I used maphack in warcraft 3 when I had like 13 years old, but even then I was so afraid of being banned I used it like once or twice and never again.
d2 Shouldve had same stage layouts so I wouldn't have to pay for a fuking Maphack ...
Glider in WoW..that was the most fascinating program for me lol it would level up, grind, quest, mine,harvest for you all day and night... I didn't want to level up myself..straight to the raiding. It also repaired and sold shit to vendors.
eventually Glider was sued by blizzard and had to close down.
I don't know if trying it out with people knowing i used it counts, only once to see how it worked (maphack in bw) other than that i have never touched any kind of cheat in online games
On January 07 2012 13:15 Jibba wrote: Patch 5 for AQ40 in WoW after having cleared Naxx. D:
Then archaeology/fishing/leveling bot in Cata along with about 40% of the population.
Nothing that ever affected other people though, like PvPing or auctions or speed hacking. Just extra prep for raiding, because the rest of WoW is an extremely tedious and dull game.
We got flamed for it but the idea that there was a moral aspect was pretty ridiculous. It had zero impact on the server outside of saving us a few hours, and all of our serious raiding was being monitored by GMs. We knew what the rules were and decided it was worth it to break them, so no one complained about getting caught. And we had a lot of sympathy from the other top raiding guilds who knew and felt the stupidity of Blizzard's Atiesh setup.
Never done it against another person though.
Oh god, I remember that. You guys were on Kor'gath, right?
On January 07 2012 13:15 Jibba wrote: the idea that there was a moral aspect was pretty ridiculous. .
i brang something like this up in the op with the social skills / life crap.
I'll say this to everyone, if u cant see im ONLY talking about when it directly impacts on anothers gameplay experience etc and you know full well your doing it.
If you dont realise that and bash me for saying it, feel free to facepalm yourselves!
And no, sorry but skipping raid trash doesnt count because anyone who is seriously effected by that is dumb. Sure it shouldnt be done, mildly annoying to you..seriously affecting your own gaming? nuh-uh
I voted no not at all, but I remember I used "show me the money" (+10000 mins/gas) in BW when I was doing the Torrasque level in the campaign. I still feel shame for not being able to beat it on my own the first time around without cheats (although I did go back and beat it without cheats now that I'm better at the game)
I used to aimbot in a game called Tremulous. I spent about a year playing it for real then I stopped for about a year and deiced to play again. I found out it wasnt as fun as it used to be so I decided to spice it up. Thats pretty much the only time ive cheated in an online game. Now I realize cheating defeats the whole purpose of games. Silly me.
I have used hacks and cheats in singleplayer game mostly either 3rd party balancing stuff(Arcanum's hack for gun/bow users so they wouldnt just outright suck) and the rest is just like seeing the good ol craziness of cheats in various games. For funsies.
-Terraworld autoclicker (lol 3000 squids to cook... srsly?); also was banned for supposed speedhack, which was in reality just lag, but the serveradmin (FVANtom, you're still an awesome headadmin though!) thought I hacked "yea sure.. that was hack, don't lie". Oh man I was so pissed off, t'was my first real life lesson: life isn't fair.
-Tons of SP games where the game got bugged/retardedly impossible.
No online hacks though... every time I see a hacker in online FPS games I just die a little inside.. Why would you play fcking online if you just want to hack? (ok if the game has already pissed you off, it's kind of reasonable to just dick around a bit lulz).
Aimbotted in a lottta shooters, can't see the appeal of doing the same in other genres (maphacking, etc).
Aimbotting feels like doing roids or something, makes you feel pro without working for it. Maphacking just feels like changing the board when the other guy isn't looking in chess or something lol. No thrill :/
I picked "Yes and Continue to do so" because I use maphacks in Diablo 2 when I play, which is every 6 months or year I'll start up a new account. I would never use a hack to harm another player or give myself an advantage over them when playing against them.
I don't lose satisfaction from it, it doesn't hurt anyone and it makes the game easier in a good way. Not like, "I use wall hacks and now I just kill people through walls and go like 30-11 on cs_office." It's more like, "OMFG I have to do like 1000 Mephisto runs to try and get shit to trade and I might not get any and enemies 1 shot me when I teleport into them and it takes like 10 minutes to find the Durance level 3 every time."
It doesn't hurt people, but it helps me find gear faster and find tristram or throne of destruction, or whatever for my party faster.
On January 07 2012 13:57 Half wrote: Aimbotted in a lottta shooters, can't see the appeal of doing the same in other genres (maphacking, etc).
Aimbotting feels like doing roids or something, makes you feel pro without working for it. Maphacking just feels like changing the board when the other guy isn't looking in chess or something lol. No thrill :/
Also I suck at shooters :x.
it's nothing like steroids, people that do steroids still work just as hard, if not harder than everyone else in the gym.
aimbotting is magically getting shredded
ot: never hacked, but used a guide book to figure out how to get chaos chaos in sa2:b
Hacks? Fuck no, shits for pussies. Cheat codes for the BW campaign when I was like 7? For sures! Map hacks and that type of stuff isn't appealing because it only yields wins, but no true improvement. Why bother? Seems pointless (in RTS games at least)
On January 07 2012 13:15 Jibba wrote: Patch 5 for AQ40 in WoW after having cleared Naxx. D:
Then archaeology/fishing/leveling bot in Cata along with about 40% of the population.
Nothing that ever affected other people though, like PvPing or auctions or speed hacking. Just extra prep for raiding, because the rest of WoW is an extremely tedious and dull game.
We got flamed for it but the idea that there was a moral aspect was pretty ridiculous. It had zero impact on the server outside of saving us a few hours, and all of our serious raiding was being monitored by GMs. We knew what the rules were and decided it was worth it to break them, so no one complained about getting caught. And we had a lot of sympathy from the other top raiding guilds who knew and felt the stupidity of Blizzard's Atiesh setup.
Never done it against another person though.
Oh god, I remember that. You guys were on Kor'gath, right?
We were on Black Dragonflight when it happened. Furor's (the guy that the Quel'Serrar quest book is named after) clan, FoH, was on the server and I guess he wasn't too happy about us stealing their thunder (and players) so we got extra special attention paid. o.o
After the ban we started over on Korgath. PvPing in greens and blues was a lot more fun.
On January 07 2012 13:15 Jibba wrote: the idea that there was a moral aspect was pretty ridiculous. .
i brang something like this up in the op with the social skills / life crap.
I'll say this to everyone, if u cant see im ONLY talking about when it directly impacts on anothers gameplay experience etc and you know full well your doing it.
If you dont realise that and bash me for saying it, feel free to facepalm yourselves!
And no, sorry but skipping raid trash doesnt count because anyone who is seriously effected by that is dumb. Sure it shouldnt be done, mildly annoying to you..seriously affecting your own gaming? nuh-uh
Jibba you bad bad man. :D
I added it in because of the reaction after the ban, not because of you. Some people were saying we should go to jail for breaking the ToS. LOL
Hmm I haven't used hacks in an online multiplayer game, but I have used hacks on various pieces of software. There is always a special place in my heart for some XSS. Back when I was younger I used to be a pretty dark grey-hat (pretty much a black hat but I used to notify some vendors XD) but nowadays I'm fairly relinquished to being a white hat exclusively. Rooting a system was like a game to me, but I guess i sorta grew out of it.
besides screwing with diablo 2 like half of everyones done, i tried an aimbot on counterstrike 1.6 and took a 4 year ban on VAC servers. luckily for me if i had done that the next day, i would have gotten slammed by the perma ban policy that was instated at that time.
also maplestory but it was mostly just to troll others. me and a friend went in blatantly cheating (i even used the name iHack) and screwing with people all over the place. my friend got banned within the first day, and to this point iHack is still a character in good standing, i think this was in ninth grade so 6 years ago give or take.
Never. Only scum of the universe does that. I've exploited bugs in games (kinda like drone drill) but like never done anything that was game threatening (i.e. map hack)
haha a few friends and I found some free aimbots for CSS and went around and actually used them in a scrim against some other friends and then they realized it pretty easily and busted out some way better hacks than what we had
On January 07 2012 10:56 1Eris1 wrote: I used an autobuyer back when I played Neopets.Mind you this was at age twelve.
I remember accidently taking a screen shot of the autobuyer and posting in my page. Needless to say someone found it and about 30 different threads went up screaming blood murder, as I was kind of a big name in Neopets. (God that sounds so pathetic)
Haven't touched crap like that sense. Only cheats I use are in singleplayer when I'm bored
You bastard. I RS'ed my soul out the right way and still only made a few mil.
I was always convinced most of the big names used autobuyers though, lol. Did the threads go up in the BD board? Hahahaha, oh god, that was the shit.
The only cheat I ever did for multiplayer (sort of) was using Rare Candy cheats (Cinnabar Island, PC duplication, etc.) in Pokemon to get Lvl 100 Pokemon and using them in fights with my friends.
Doing that is kind of pointless... no? You can make pokemon that can one hit theirs in some instances if you lvl'd up normally...+more stats in average They changed the way it works every now and then. If you're playing that version... try this Substitute --> Amnesia--> Amnesia --> Recovery ---> Substitute ---> Amnesia ---> Amnesia ---> attack them ---> Substitute---> Recovery ---> Amnesia ---> attack them ( stop using Amnesia ) you can wipe them out like that....
I admit back when i was like 9 i was one of the first runescapers to use a bot hack for mining and shit. But in any competitive game? no. Not that i never would've, most likely, just that i never cared enough to get access. This being said, i did my fair share of rocket modded Americas Army servers back in 1.0 where 1 person was randomly selected to fire rockets from his gun.
and i use cheats religiously in offline games once i've beaten the game without cheats. Generally this is a for fun thing, like in Saints Row 3 where i always turned on immortal and big explosion and limitless clip and went around using every explosive weapon i could find.
3D's: DnT, Dread and Drama. Horde had us and Gentleman's Club. Pretty stacked server, at least by NA standards.
Drama, that's the one. For whatever reason I can never recall the name of that guild. I think it's reasonable Kor'gath was stacked by any standards, at least until the end of classic.
Back when steam was strictly Valve games, HL2 was just released, and some foum got a hold of a list of over 100 Valve PC Cafe accounts containing every steam game. I used to own a rather active CS 1.6 server and one of the members on there was an older guy, around 50, he was sicilian and our resident ban happy admin on the server, he was full of rage all the time, he was one of those guys that didnt care if it was skill or hacks, if you were destroying people on the server, and he didnt feel you were on the same level as every1 else, you'd be banned.
Well I gave one of these accounts server immunity and downloaded the most obscene CS 1.6 hacks I could find, speed, teleport, instant kills with knife headshots, the map was fy_ceworld, I proceded to turn on FF and instantly killed all 24 people on the server repeatedly and instantly, with teleport headshot knife combos. This lasted about 8 minutes, the 50 year old sicilian guy was trying everything to ban me to no avail. If i could only explain the rage that came out of this guy... Eventually i got a phonecall from another admin trying to figure out what was going on after he got a rather nasty phonecall from the guy in the server. I've never had so much fun in my life... Eventually I fessed up to him through voice chat, I was laughing my balls off at his reactions, he however, was not so amused.
TLDR: If your going to hack, do it right, dont be a pussy and try to hide behind it and pretend its skill.
I never use hacks and I despise everyone who is pathetic enough to hack. Regardless of the reason, hacks are for people who are attempting to gain an unfair advantage and should never be used. All hackers should be banned. I have been hacked during several Xbox games and people who hack are sniveling individuals who cannot win games with the aid of their hacks and many of them are so bad that they still lose with their hacks. Glitches and bugs are not hacking, but exploiting falls under the same category. I remember all the scrubs in Halo: Reach that had the huge ranks. You may think they are good, check their profile and you will see that they just boosted their rank with the Target Locator exploit and once you see them play, they are a joke. I recall the thousands of hackers on MW2 and how they were destroyed, listening to them rage about how there is no way they can lose... They think they have hacks and that will bridge the skill level? They have map hacks and they think they can win just because they can see?
Hackers are a sad bunch that will never have true gaming skill. If you have to rely on anything other than you own skill, you will never be anything other than a scrub.
Oddly enough I've never hacked on Diablo 2 despite being a relatively hardcore player back in the day. I've tried an aimbot/wallhack briefly on non-vac servers in CS. I've made hacks for a 2D shooter that was somewhat popular.
Yep. Back in the good ol' Maple story days Basically speed leveled by using a "hit all the monsters" with the same attack hack combined with invincibility and auto clicker for mana pots+ item pickup. It functioned autonomously and i just left my comp on overnight and it worked perfectly. It was actually some pretty intense stuff and man where my friends pissed when i was level 70+ in like 5 days.
Ethically, I think that if it's a MMO or any other game that isn't competitive, there's no real harm in doing it.[You will most likely get banned anyways] But if it is in a competitive game it's un-tolerable and should be looked down upon, and no excuses whatsoever, it hurts the overall quality and experience for everyone.
dabbled in some wallhacking back in the first days of CS, way before steam was even a platform for valve games let alone a full on game distribution network.
pretty sure i got my first hl1 cdkey banned because of that xD
For true multiplayer games and experience, nope I have never hacked. I don't like the risk of losing everything I've worked for a small gain.
I've only hacked Diablo 2 Singleplayer to test out builds and equipment on LAN against another character. I did this, because I don't want to level another character online and mess up the skill trees. Been like 6 years since I played Diablo 2 though since I moved on to World of Warcraft. I wanted to hack on Tibia though, because that MMORPG is freakin hard if you don't know anyone well enough.
I used to spoof in Warcraft 3 so I can get my name in cool colorz...I wanna say I maphacked once in Brood War but just for fastest lol, not anything competitive.
Best part about it was I was so bad at the time that I still lost haha.
Never used one in a mulitplayer game. But will be forced to do so in future because the mulitplayer only option of many new game (e.g. diablo 3) you have to use banable hacks if you want to cheat for sp.
Never used hacks or cheats to gain an advantage over a human opponent in a game, it's pathetic at best. Hilarious to do the Tank Code 30 times in GTA 3 though, those were the days.
Other than that, I did my fair share of exploiting things in WoW, some of it had an impact on others' gameplay, most of it didn't(like Jibba's example). The worst thing I've done would probably be abusing the Warlock imp exploit on AV; I rationalized that our faction literally won 100% of the games on our server and it just made the wins faster. Had to get that exalted rep, ye.
Does "screen hacking" on the same TV screen on FPS console games count? If they do, everyone has inadvertently hacked at least once. I have cheated in single player on several games, but never online or in multiplayer games. And have used glitches and bugs in various games (mostly Pokemon Red).
Yes, but there was no "To counter the opposing hacker" option. I had stacking hack for Brood War when I played others who used it. Otherwise I didn't enable hacks. Just hated seeing building stacking so I got my own to counter them and even the odds. (Damn me for not playing Terran and having tanks...)
I used to glitch and cheat in Halo 2 if that counts, never hacking though.
Me and my friend would go into a CTF game and take the flag outside of the map and contest it forever (so the match doesn't end) while the other one of us would run around getting a crapton of kills.
We would also force host and bridge the connection through the computer so you can block someone's IP and it would kick them from the game. (Only a couple times though, I started to feel bad). With host you could also standby to send everyone in the game to a bluescreen while you run around doing whatever for a couple seconds and then repeat. I never did this personally but I played with a kid who did.
Of course abusing all the super jumps was a ton of fun too.
Glitches like the flag bounce or the dummy glitch were amazing too :D
This was all when I was 12/13, but honestly if I still could I would still mess around with those glitches (although I wouldn't do the bridged host thing).
If anyone on here knows of these and did them too that'd be awesome :D but I doubt it.
I've never used hacks myself but I've helped to develop many hacks and 3rd party programs for different games (especially Warcraft III and CS 1.6). However I am really fond of abusing glitches and figuring out little kwirks in games, it makes me feel smart, dnno why.
never used hacks. my cousin came to me once and palyed d2, next time i launched the game there was a maphack rofl, i instantly deleted it. even wish they didn't exist.
I used speed hacks in early WoW; no falling damage, move speed as fast as you like it (unslowable), move at any altitude.
Was very useful for getting around and grinding and absolutely roflarious in battlegrounds. However the novelty did wear off pretty quickly and after i stopped using it the only bit i missed was travelling around the world really quickly.
I never used hacks, but back in Call of Duty: World at War I abused the shit out of glitches. But who can blame me? Call of Duty 4 was one of the best shooters (I'm not a CoD fan because every game since CoD4 sucks, but CoD4 is quite honestly a good game, so nobody hate) and I spend 60 bucks on World at War and it's awful. So whenever the map Castle would come up I'd just run against the wall until I'd slip under the map and just start invoking nerd rage.
Only Counter-Strike 1.6, for maybe couple of times. Mostly turned them on when another hacker was in the same server. Botted for couple of weeks in a row in WoW, until i got 2nd warning/ban. Next one would've been permanent.
Just in diablo. I remember there was one where you could make your own items and I used to show my friends and they'd be all WHOAAAAA. Of course I must have only been 10 or 11 so I thought it was pretty cool to name my gear after myself
Oh, plenty of times, just to see what they were like. Maphack, wallhack, botting, etc. Using them against another player to gain an unfair advantage? Never.
I think the worst thing I've done in terms of cheating was in WoW where I botted the BG gear for like four straight seasons. When I quit the same, 30% of the people in any given BG were bots anyway, so I figured why not. I never got banned or even warned so I guess I got away with it.
x22/vt.exe ring any bells german players ? :D im glad that i can at least somewhat trust people in sc2. In CSS it was getting ugly.. Many, many "pro" players were caught cheating.Almost every mix/gather/cw was against some stupid cheater .And yes i tried it a couple of times from frustration and i also wanted to see how it behaves so i can recognize it in demo files (excuses i know but whatever :D)
CS 1.6 and only once after a friend of mine who I played with told me he had some, used it once but got bored because the bot does all the work for you.. How that can be fun is beyond me, I guess some people are desperate for any sort of succes or attention.
Best thing to do when you encounter a cheater is to just leave the server, if everyone does the same the hacker will either get bored or the owner of the server will get more aware of the hackers and make sure there are more active admins on the server.
Weird thing is that usually when a hacker is in a server and voteban is available, some people still don't realise that they have the option to voteban or that this person is hacking and people on the same team as this cheater are sometimes even happy that they're winning.
Never in multiplayer. I've used trainers and stuff for single player games to get straight to the fun part with good weapons sometimes, but nothing that would ever affect other players unfairly.
When I was like 13, in Counter-Strike, hacked for maybe all of a week before I got Vac'd, never did it again. Lost my damn 6 dig though, that sucked like hell could have sold that for 500+$
On January 07 2012 11:21 farvacola wrote: I can guarantee that far more people have hacked than they think, as anyone who played Pokemon Red or Blue and messed around with missingno technically hacked. That's it for me though :D
If you counted this, then basically every 12 year old in my generation hacked enough for an entire life time. It ruined game cartridges if you weren't careful though, which was a drag.
On January 07 2012 15:40 RosaParksStoleMySeat wrote: Oh, plenty of times, just to see what they were like. Maphack, wallhack, botting, etc. Using them against another player to gain an unfair advantage? Never.
I think the worst thing I've done in terms of cheating was in WoW where I botted the BG gear for like four straight seasons. When I quit the same, 30% of the people in any given BG were bots anyway, so I figured why not. I never got banned or even warned so I guess I got away with it.
This was SOOOO common in the Vanilla honor grinds in wow when the titles came out. Mad honor farms for 16 hours a day, so people just started botting it.
I remember discovering a glitch on the pipeline map in CoD Modern Warfare and abusing it for a short period to shoot people from behind this chain link in the tunnels. Stopped as soon as someone called it as cheating, when I realized he was right. It was a super fun trick though - good thing there were some other fun camping spots on that map that didn't require glitching. As for actual hacking, what kind of loser actually goes to the effort of downloading a whole program just to cheat? That's silly. Practice.
I voted no as far as the vote went - someone do me a favor and tell me if that glitch on pipeline ought to count as "yes I have hacked".
I maphack in Diablo 2, it helps to reduce the tedium of exploring, but I would say that is still a hack and "cheating" since the proper way is to explore everything.
Actually no, and I can say that wihtout even blinking. I'm 27 now, and havent hacked in mp ever before not even once, do I deserve a medal? be cause I doubt anyone else at my age or elder can say that they have, without lying.
Yeah, in BW I would always black sheep wall and show me the money!! In CSS does noclip count as something? Oh and also all the Pokemon games with Action Replay, Rare Candies and duplicate pokemon
Maphack was a must if you wanted to compete at the top for diablo2. Most people were using bots to farm for items, so i felt that Maphacking and auto picker were fine compared to some dude doing 400 baal runs while hes sleeping.
Also the unmentionable things i did during Socom CA. That game was just a hacking fest.
Never. What's the point of winning if it wasn't on the strength of your own 2 hands? Unlike, say, cheating at school there is no tangible reward for being good at video games unless you're a pro.
i used almost all the hacks on brood war for shits n giggles and to see how they worked and what to look for so i could catch hackers when i played legit. makes me a hypocrite but whatever, shit was fun to fuck around with. i dont give a fuck. i play legit tho, i like fair games.
1.) You must have -str item(s) (bugged soj for example; -16 str) 2.) You must be able to get in the negatives of str (15 str for 1 bugged soj, 31 str for 2 bugged soj) 3.) Get to level 42 or higher 4.) Put your skill charms in your inventory (For the type of skills you want to skill hack, Example: +1 lightning skill charm for lightning sorceress) 5.) Put your items on that give you the -str (bugged sojs). It will not show you having negavite str but you really will 6.) Keep pressing "W" over and over and look at your skills
1.) You must have -str item(s) (bugged soj for example; -16 str) 2.) You must be able to get in the negatives of str (15 str for 1 bugged soj, 31 str for 2 bugged soj) 3.) Get to level 42 or higher 4.) Put your skill charms in your inventory (For the type of skills you want to skill hack, Example: +1 lightning skill charm for lightning sorceress) 5.) Put your items on that give you the -str (bugged sojs). It will not show you having negavite str but you really will 6.) Keep pressing "W" over and over and look at your skills
You know... if you kept doing this with the paladin's holy fire... you can kill the entire map just by using the way point...
Radius continues to increase and the damage also goes up, too...
If you needed legit 45life skiller gcs ( you can get them from baal if he drops a gc so you can keep rerolling the stats, since baal drops all items with iLVL=99
well, diablo 2 players use maphack as standard so that doesn't count. I hacked in counter-strike for a bit just to see how it works, and sure enough it was really easy to break the game.
I've never used hacks in MP or games where my offline stats also matter online. I can see why people try to use those hacks but tbh I've never thought about using them myself. Maybe it's about honor and honest competition, but it wouldn't feel right to cheat on other players that spend time on becoming better and better by just using some stupid hacks. Offline i use cheats only to maximize the fun in games. In GTA:San Andreas for example where you can use the cheats in combination with co-op mode to have one hell of a fun.
I hacked in maplestory a long time ago, i was bored of the game but hacking made it even more boring and quit after I got banned. I also never fully played the single player in BW, I used there is no cow level on the levels I needed to kill every building.
I haven't but I do know that in Diablo2 like every other person had maphack, people said that having maphack is like one of the requirements to play it normaly.
A couple of times I used a Maphack for D2, though always felt bad about it and stopped evenntually. Also helped some friends to transfer some duped items, though didn't do any duping myself.
I used a variety of hacks in World of Warcraft when I was younger. Although I had the same feeling towards hacks as I do now (I hate people who use them). I used the hacks because the game was no longer fun to me, running really fast or teleporting up in the air made the game fun for a while. I made sure though, that me hacking never was a disadvantage for anyone else. I never farmed or ganked with it, other players never knew or got affected.
I've never cheated or hacked in an online game at all, it just doesn't seem fair to take someone else's free time and mess with it so I can win without any of the actual fun of the game being had. If I ever felt the need to cheat in an online game, that'd suggest to me that the game doesn't provide what it needs to by itself to keep me interested and thus isn't the game for me to spend my time on.
Single player is a little different though as there is of course a far stricter limit on the content generally and cheating doesn't affect anyone else so I have definitely used cheats from time to time, when I felt it would make the game more fun for me, which is generally after I've finished it and maybe want to replay it in a certain way.
I played 400h hours of Battlefield 2 and I was always top 1-2 every round until I got bored to the game and started wallhacking for a few months just for the lulz, sorry guys .__. Never done that since and I will not.
Nope, but at various stages when I gamed a lot and was a really good non-pro player in some games, I was accused of hacking XD. I wish I had the same motivation with getting good at SC2.
I used to go to swedish counter strike 1.6 cs_assault maps to cheat :D. Only there and only on servers where 50% cheated anyways. I don't know, I guess it was fun back then. Had to be Swedish server tho because I'm Finnish and we fins get extra pleasure when hurting a fellow swedes feelings .
never hacked, but i play aoe 1 and 2 sooooooo i used to cheat alot ;_D (when i was like 10/11 tho) and when i was like 8 or 9 i played the settlers 2 (i think its called the settlers in english? ) and i couldnt get past lvl 5 so i cheated t-t
On January 07 2012 18:59 MasterBlasterCaster wrote: The only cheat I ever used:
Up, Down, Left, Right, A+Start.
Props to anyone who knows where that is from.
i want to say sonic but wasnt that up down left right abc start
also i hated hackers in cs 1.6 like i challenged a aimbot guy to turn off his hax and i would beat him knife vs weapon and did but later got kicked from my clan because they thought i wallhacked because i beat the rank1 guy in there clan and a random guy 1 vs 2 50 games running no deaths.
I used to use cheats often. I spent alot of time making trainers and releasing them publicly. This was just simple memory editing for games like Planetside (an FPS-MMO). But I pretty much solely used a MH on Diablo 2 (never got caught) and have used bots probably in the amount of my time spent playing games (Multiple computers through Diablo II, EVE online, WoW). When I was a little fastest noob I used to abuse stack hacks and other crap like that. Over the past few years I've grown up alot and have gotten quite competitive since CS:Source released and I started putting alot of time into the games competitive scene. Since then I have stopped using cheats all together in any game. I have alot of time on my hands so I find I dont have to cheat to be competetive, I've played games and played them hard for a long time now it's kind of just natural. I attended alot alot of local lan events for both dota and CS over the years (and some SC2 but I havent really been active for an entire year) and as a result.
TBH i think the majority of people who have played any multiplayer shooter have had their run ins with hackers. It's not hard to get them yourself. I'm really glad that streaming is becoming mainstream now, means I can just stream my games and show some legit shit.
The only time I've used a hack was when my Diablo 2 account was hacked and all my shit was taken. I was so mad afterwards that I used a maphack because I didn't care whether I got banned. Haven't touched any hacks since.
Hacked: Never , not even in Modern Warfare 2 , which is basically the hacker´s paradise. Fair competetive play >>>>> Aimbotters, Wallhackers etc.
Cheated: Hell yea , try beating the older GTAs (San Andreas, Vice City) without cheats... The most fun I had with the game was a rampage in the city with a cheated tank and 6 police stars ^^ As a little brat everybody used to "clone" Pokemon in Silver/Gold Editions by using the PC and shutting down during the saving process. I was not an exception. :D Or Pokemon Red/Blue , friggin MISSINGNO. is almost legendary...
I've tried out various hacks on public FPS servers back when I played those at a very high level. Purely out of curiosity, just wanted to know how it felt playing as a wallhacker or aimbot, particularly because public newbies would call me that all the time anyway. Kind of a shitty thing to do regardless.
Never cheated in a competitive game myself, but when I was much younger (like 13 I geuss), I strongly suspected a teammate was hacking in some important games due to things he did and said, but did nothing about it, regret that quite alot.
Used maphack in wc3 custom games and continue to do so(also use spoof but that doesn't really count...). Was expecting far more wc3 hackers than there has been... You only received a ban if you did it in ladder, so I assumed it was a pretty common occurrence.
When i was younger i used a hacking thing for CS (aimbots and wallhacks) for about a week, and map hack for D2. I never really liked hacking. There was this one time when i was about 7 though that i accidently hacked. I was at a public gaming place and i got on a computer to play some CS. I couldn't figure out why i couldn't see walls, and had the store owner come over and fix it for me. I found out later that the guy playing on it before me was wallhacking.
i couldnt give a flying f**k about white knights, it's the internet, i'm here for fun. if i have more fun by hacking, then i'll hack, if hacking were for attention or a replacement for a social life, then the same could be said about doing anythign in any videogame ever. honestly if games were better put together then perhaps i might not have any motivation to hack.
I used spoof hack on b.net to play against my best BW friend. We would usually never play against each other. Then that guy we didn't like challenges my friend. I suddenly remember I had downloaded the spoof hack. I exit b.net, I start BW with the spoof hack. It works. I spoof the nickname of the guy we didn't like and joined the game my friend hosted. I said "gogo no obs". I beat my friend and he's so mad because he wouldn't have lost against this guy usually. I didn't dare telling my friend I had tricked him. I never used any other kind of hack, it's not only against my principles, but would simply make the game uninteresting.
In Diablo 2: Map hack, various bots, multiple d2 instances but worst of all; I used to hack people I would spam chat channels with hack propaganda and they'd download my backdoor trojan.
In Counter Strike: The usual, wall hack, aim bot. Anything fun
I used a hack that would allow me to open the online game "Ragnarok" twice on the same computer. This way i was able to buff myself with a second account. But apart from that i hate hacks.
I tried to get a maphack on Diablo 2 so i could speed up my MFing, but it didn't work. And i also downloaded a hack called Oblivion for Brood War so i could change my name/name color in battle.net and eventually got my account banned for using it twice, lol. I've never used any preformance boosting hacks though as that would ruin the fun of the game.
On January 07 2012 18:58 Pulselol wrote: I bot in MMORPGs, but never cheated once in a competitive game.
At the very end of Diablo 1 I've used Bobafett's fun tool, apart from that never online, I think i've used some cheats on Age of Empires (allhailthequeen?) and Doom (iddqd/idkfa) and Mortal Kombat on the Sega (abacabb).
Not hacked persay but I used to play Runescape alot, and I would use bots which would level my account for me. Having said that, it was on a new account that I created purely for screwing around after putting 5 years of my own work in another account, so I can kind of justify it, as it had little to no impact on other people. I also used to play AoE, loved using whosyourdaddy ect in that . In actual multiplayer games though I'm against it, it just lowers everyone else's enjoyment.
Did aimbotting, speedhack, wall hack, no spread... on CS 1.6, because it was really entertaining trolling around. Obv I was young then and I wouldn't do anything now.
On January 07 2012 10:56 1Eris1 wrote: I used an autobuyer back when I played Neopets.Mind you this was at age twelve.
I remember accidently taking a screen shot of the autobuyer and posting in my page. Needless to say someone found it and about 30 different threads went up screaming blood murder, as I was kind of a big name in Neopets. (God that sounds so pathetic)
Haven't touched crap like that sense. Only cheats I use are in singleplayer when I'm bored
You are my hero. I used to envy all the Neopet pros T___T ... had to earn my little bit of points by playhing Meerca chase!
My brother and I used a glitch with zerg in broodwar where you could drop other players by making a certain structure (might have needed to be placed in a certain location) , showing vision, and when they looked it dropped them. Anyone remember what it was called?
Edit: Also used the glitch in neopets where you could play dice-a-roo all night by hitting enter to "roll" then leaving a weight on it - would keep rolling for you and you would wake up with copious amounts of items, and usually have more money than when you started.
The results of the pool shocked me a bit, 40% of people is/were cheating thats huge number... I wonder how many people were punished for cheating...
My friend used map hack in warcaraft 3, for atleast week, he didnt get banned... I also remeber my games at wc3 polish wcg qualifier, same friend was sitting next to me on the other pc, and he was observer in the game (I didnt even knew because there were 10+ obs), and I played orc on Plunder and he alarmed me when sneaky push was coming, I was pissed so much, I won the game but I didnt feel good with it and I quit the tournamnet.
not in Multiplayer but many times in singleplayer mode when I was a kid. Such as GTA or even WC3. Would never use wallhack or maphack. I always wanted to see how it looks but then I watched it on youtube and that was enough for me.
No I have never once used hacks in an online game, friends of mine used to in CSS and it frustrated me to no end. What's the point if you're going to hack? May as well just play vs AI :/
On January 07 2012 10:54 Freeheals wrote: maphack, d2 Have a feeling most people will be saying that
at first i was going to say now, but i used maphack in d2 as well..... though you might as not consider it a hack because it doesn't really hurt the other players
Nope, specially when it comes down to multiplayer games where the opponent is human. I know where I stand and I like where I stand. In terms of SC, I was D+/- on iCCup and up to Gold in the SC2 Beta (haven't played since, but back then, that was the 2nd highest rank, with Platinum only being higher). My other preferred games are usually sim-racing games, in which the skill is of utmost value. I know I'm not the best in those either, but I still prefer to challenge myself competing instead of trying to work my way around with silly aids and tools.
As for single-player games thou - yeah, I tend to cheat a lot ! Fuck the AI man, I sometimes just don't want to deal with it. It's different if I think I'm good at a game and I'd like to challenge myself. Then it's completely different story. But if I just wanna go thru the game, have fun with it, then yeah - IDDQD FTW ! :D
Does a grid-clicking macro for farmville count? That was probably the closest I got. A lot of friends were spamming me with all these farmville messages, and at a certain point I decided to go in there and beat them all. I did hit max level before all my friends, but then I just felt dirty afterwards. Moreso for playing farmville at all rather than using the click-macro though.
Oh, and then I have this sc2 extension that allows me to see the map better and can make the other player leave the game! Funny part is that the other guy gets reported as well, and I think I've made quite a few ppl lose their account. :D But everyone does that, so it doesn't really count I guess. Farmville though...
I hacked in Counter-Strike: Source back in 2006 or 2007. I used aimbot, wallhack and occasionally speedhack. Once those days were over I started to get into competitive CS:S. Now I despise any sort of hacker, especially the ones that use them to increase their status in a game - eg hack to win on ladder in SC2, or hack to win a round of CoD4 ProMod.
On January 07 2012 21:20 Thezzy wrote: Hacking? Never, it doesn't teach me anything about the game and it's just lame. Besides, it might cost me the game, literally.
In my young C&C Generals days I did exploit a few known bugs here and there before they were fixed, but that's about it.
I used a maphack for 2 weeks or so in Broodwar and I must say you are wrong when you say it doesn't teach you anything. It improved my game quite a bit even after using it because it is essentially like watching a replay while you are playing. It sounds paradoxically but it improved my scouting quite a lot because you of course want to make it less obvious you are maphacking. You learn when critically tech goes up for the opponent and how their buildorders look like and makes your builds safer and more optimized if you get things like turret timings down. Sure you could learn all these things while watching replays but I found it as a live experience much more helpful.
Didn't maphack in sc2 but I am thinking about playing maps where you can see everything with mates to optimize builds.
No, but I was accused to use hacks a lot in the game I played called Enemy Territory. I played it quite competitively and went to LANs eventually but some still think I cheated. :,(
I used to play a shitload of semi-competetive CS when I was younger. After 4-5 years I decided to quit, and figured I would do so by getting myself banned for cheating After playing with both speed hack, wall hack and aimbot they finally booted my shite
bad vote ... it sounds like hacking = imba bad thing. In diablo2 i would suggest that 98% of the serious gamers used maphacks ... for my i used maphack and messed around with OpenKore on some pservers in RO.
In bw way back I used a hack that did the stack burrow trick and the one that allows you to control more than 12 units. I only played fastest and went mass ling or mass hydra, stacked. The burrow trick got patched and I stopped doing that.
I then played custom maps in bw called bounds, where you dodge explosions. I used drop hack cause there was often times annoying bad people.
I used a few when I first started playing CS. No smoke/flash and an aim assist (was like an auto aim in a single player FPS, not an auto aimbot). After I removing them, I also remember getting one of those ridiculously obvious aimbots that constantly spins, auto fires, etc calling myself Jesus and laughing at how pissed off people got >_>.
I'd never do it again though. Once CS/CSS became my favourite game, I hated hackers.
hmm first time i cheated was in aoe1, still remember the laser guys, then ive also cheated in aoe2(sp for money that was when i was younger), maplestory(gravity stuff) pristontale, cs(wallhack, aimbot), tibia, diablo 1 for duplication but to be honest nothing beats playing without cheats. but cheats does give u an extra adrenalin boost cuz its so fun, but it ruins the game forever kinda
over ten years ago in my UT99 days i briefly used aimbot+wallhack (pretty much when they were brand new), because i wanted to understand how it worked and see what the fuss was about.
i was playing semi-high skill competitive CTF at the time, so i knew hacks would be found out almost immediately... so i just tried the hack in half a dozen or so pub games before doing a fresh install.
imo the real fun in games is not 'winning', but using your skill/game sense etc to get the better over an opponent. if you're using hacks, you know that you're not really getting the better over someone.... so the only way you can truely 'win' with hacks is if you grieve enough to cause the other players you rage/quit.
admin around to ban hacker = hackers always lose.
edit: oh and maphack in diablo 2, because like 99% of people used it so if you didn't use it you were at a huuuuuuuge disadvantage when farming.
I actually used the cheatcodes in SC1 to complete the Terran mission.
Also I played 2 or 3 pubgames with wallhack and aimbot in this game called Urban Terror. I got caught however and was almost banned from clanbase, where I played all my clanmatches back then. That really made me realise that I should never do it again, even with "good" intentions (aka trying it out, but nowadays I don't really see what the "good" thing is about that).
I was thinking of using a wallhack in CS:S for a long time (I played CS in general A LOT for a LONG time before SC2) but aside from disliking hackers in general, at that point I wasn't massively computer-savvy, and was afraid that anything advertised as a hack could easily be a virus and so just left it alone all together
Other than that, I used things like aegis in the original AoE singleplayer just for the lols, I was like 8 years old or something at that time and just dicked around making armies of archers to move around the map killing stuff
No, never ever, and I've been playing online multiplayer since the days of x-wing vs tie-fighter.
Cheating in online games completely defeats the purpose of playing, at least when it comes to what fascinates me about playing online. Of course sometimes there is money on the line nowadays and I can see the incentive some people seem to have. Nevertheless I wouldn't call this "hacking" at all, since it spoils the positive and true meaning of the term outside of gaming. Its also simply wrong because these kids do not "hack" anything, really.
I'd rather call it harassment/molestation, or fraud if its in a competitive environment.
Singleplayer cheating however is about as wrong as skipping pages in a book. It is completely unnecessary if the book is good, but a practical way to still get something out of it if it is boring. In SP games I oftentimes got stuck because of a bug/bad gamedesign/silly quests and then I never hesitated even a second to cheat. And if someone finds it just funny to cheat hilariously in a singleplayer game then I would encourage them to do it by any means. I find it rather odd that a lot of people despise it. I mean, its your personal free time you choose to spend, noone gets hurt, just go ahead and do what you want.
On January 07 2012 20:54 xTikka wrote: I used a hack that would allow me to open the online game "Ragnarok" twice on the same computer. This way i was able to buff myself with a second account. But apart from that i hate hacks.
That's not really a hack in RO lol so don't worry Speaking of ragnarok, I used some edited .grf, bots and autohotkey (macro etc) but I would not consider it hacking either
I dont get hacking - i dont consider exploiting flaws in console to be hacking either as they should all be well known. Basically there is a competitive config that everyone should know. tournaments and leagues shuold have rules regarding configs so that all gets defined quickly. thye point is having a level playing field.
the point of games is to take the game and exploit it inside its ruleset.
That is hacking in its truest form. Writing hacks would be fun and id probably do that ... but going and using them on a public server woudl be funny for about 10 seconds.
We once had an inhouse cs1.6 game where everyone used a wallhack ... but thats different as when you do that its not cheating. The idea was to get a feel for what someone using the hacks looks and feels like.
i used speedhack on private WoW servers and i used wallhack on unsecured counter strike servers (which was stupid because on unsecured servers 1 out of 3 people uses an aimbot)!!
i use to hack in my early bw days on fastest map. some map hack mostly, but stackin buildings was a good one too! stack cannons at your choke. i remember those cannons shootin like machine guns!!! funny as hell some good times in 2v2. double drop squeezin right between his static defences! ROFL love those days!
Its a bit grey sometimes. In the old days when public hacks wern't around i used to make some trainers (like 10 years ago lol) for games
I don't hack (or play games really) anymore, but i'm a massive proponent of game modification and the use of scripts and macros, which i do to the extent that it's basically hacking to everyone else lol
Never, I played CSS, which was possibly the most hacked competitive game in existence, and it's what drove me away from the game.What did it for me was watching a CEVO:Main(?? can't remember the divisions tbh) game, where one of the teams had just beat my team handily in a tournament we had prepared super hard for. As we're watching the game in sctv, a guy comes on and tells everyone on chat he's a now ex-member of said team, and that everyone on it was cheating, he knew what kind of hack they used, and that he was going to report it. We lol'ed/called bs/etc, but sure enough, the day after, the whole team gets banned for cheating. All the team already had brand new Steam IDs, and obviously were serial hackers. I never touched CSS again after that day.
I have a funny story about how I hacked in Warcraft 3. As you may or may not know, maphackers and other assorted varieties of cheaters and abusers of all sorts have since time immemorial plagued poor War3.
It was particularly bad during the 1.24 patch era, where you could make a brand new account, go to 1v1 ladder, play 50 games, and literally all of them would be hackers. You might be thinking "what's the big deal, is maphack that scary?" Oh, if only it were so benevolent. There were: - laghack (issuing 10,000 invalid build commands rapidly to a worker at which time everyone else's WC3 would crash), - invulnerable hack (makes a building unkillable and hacker goes AFK), - summon hack (no cooldown on summoning hero spells), - crash hack (manipulates Warcraft's memory in such a way that everyone else gets critical error and drops), - share hack (shares control with you even though he's the opponent, makes your game lag horribly and freeze, if you somehow survived it, you could control hacker's units). - goldhack (hacker attacks and repairs his own building and gets 1000 of resources for doing so) - winhack (as soon as the game starts, you get the 'Victory!' message, then you see your score shows a loss) - phoenix hack (makes a certain ultimate spell unkillable) and on and on.
At one point, I was so fed up with this situation I was willing to risk my CD-key getting banned, so I went to a hacker website and opened the forums. Sure enough, there it all was - proudly advertising the latest way of pissing off other people in War3. And then, I saw it clearly written 'antihack'. I was all "Hmmmm, this would be worth trying." I carefully read all the posts in that thread, it said the antihack can be tested on a replay where the crashhack was used, I did ... and it worked!
My eyes glinted as I prepared myself to face hackers once again, but this time, with an ace up my sleeve. I loaded the antihack, started War3, entered Bnet and searched for a 1v1 ladder match. I found a match right away and sure enough, it was a crashhacker. He routinely activated his hack as soon as the game started, as I could easily see my framerate drop to around 10 and stay there for several excruciating seconds, I held my breath as a single thought raced through my head: "Will it work in a live game?"
Your enemy has left the game You are victorious
I was Uther Lightbringer slaying the unholy Hacker Demons, and with their dying breath, they would curse me in disbelief: "How can he not be harmed by our attacks?"
This is me, on an US East smurf (I am the green player). It turns out, when hack and antihack meet, the result is pure hacker ownage, as he loses all his resources and cannot gain anymore and then he might as well just leave. The creepy thing is that the score screen shows he gave his resources to someone, but I was the only one besides him in the game, and he didn't give them to me! What the...? *Twilight Zone theme* *The End?*
On January 07 2012 13:55 RogerX wrote: I used to be a mod for the most popular hacking site for Combat Arms.
Shit that game was boring without hacks.
fuck you
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Oh rofl this, so this..Anyone who played CA fucking hates the hacker infestation. I was in Aces for my time there (i played for like 2 years and still sucked -_-) and they fucking despised hackers, too bad the good people there were blinded by their friendship to the newer recruits that started hacking.
I quit the game and sure enough on the banlists a month later 3/4 people i accused turned up there. Oh the apologies were sweet :D
Yes, once, back in 2003, steam was coming out, counter-strike 1.5 servers going down so I decided to try a cheat, didn't see any appeal in it and have never cheated after that in an online game.
I doo use cheat codes in single player games sometimes just to do something crazy, but those saves etc never get used much.
I never hacked any multiplayer game, even in Diablo2 I never used map hack (wich could have saved me hours of play) Oh and I played a warcraftII 1v1 with a friend, we agreed both to use cheat codes, that was the lamest game we have ever witnessed, maybe that's why I never did it again. I didn't install the team color mod in SC2 because I want to start on an equal foot with my opponent.
Never hacked, seems to be a fairly ironic (or at least illogical and/or stupid) ego based activity.
Depending on the mood I'm in though, or how blatant someone is being, sometimes I enjoy playing against hackers for the sake of improving. (Overly blatant ones won't give you a chance to fight back in a realistic manner, but people trying to hide it can make for an amazing training tool.)
There are many SP games that I can't stand the grind of and/or are too hard and I don't want to put in what little time I have to trial and fail and error. So I cheat.
But MP is all about level playing fields. Also despite anonymity I do care somewhat about my reputation, plus being banned is a very real possibility under Steam and BNet so hacking in MP is a big no-no.
I haven't used a hack on any online game yet. Nor have I used any bots. I have, however, blatantly abused the possibilities of built-in macro systems in such games as Star Wars Galaxies. (Max out Entertainer? Autobuff doc? Autogrind against easily defeated enemies?) And I have had no problem going FotM in some other games (Eve - DRAAAAAKES!!)
Other than that, I've occassionally screwed around with cheat codes against computers and friends in older games for fun, but not for any real advantage. (Galactic Battlegrounds cheats were strange - sure, you could get 1000 minerals free, but so did your opponent.)
Only time I have ever used a hack was in CS 1.6. At the time I had a small internet cafe, and we had a few spare steam accounts. I really wanted to see what the perspective of a hacker was, so when I played online myself I could tell much easier when people were hacking with intentions to cheat. I have never used any hack to actually compete online, only too educate myself what to look out for.
I have used plenty of singleplayer cheats though, and when i was younger I would love when people joined my Diablo 1 games and spammed me godly gear lol.
Around the time I was done playing CoD competivtively I tried out a wallhack and aimbot to see what it was like. I used it for maybe an hour before it got boring haha. I would have been around 12 then I believe.
I've only hacked in one game and that was mohaa. I didn't do it all the time but I had a toggle for some chams. I honestly think everyone hacked but nobody said anything. You learned to not be suspicious and since everyone was doing it then it made it a challenge.
Maphack in d2 and vacuum/speed hack in maple story. Also i don't think duping is considered a hack but more of an exploit/glitch. I personally never duped in d2 but i did in d1.
Yes and i continue to do so. (38) we should count who put this and autoban
but maphack in diablo 2 is something different cause it not hurts anyone else then yourself so ... i think thats the only one i am not pissed against
On January 08 2012 01:23 itsben wrote: Maphack in d2 and vacuum/speed hack in maple story. Also i don't think duping is considered a hack but more of an exploit/glitch. I personally never duped in d2 but i did in d1.
I'm sorely tempted to start map hacking in DotA when it's like a week or so until the release of DotA 2. I've never used a hack in my life though, cos I know how much grief it gives people. My idea is only to troll a bit of the people that always seem to squash me, but I know I'll get picked up easily
But until that moment, I will never condone any use of hax for whatever purpose. I even know that if I do go ahead with the trolling that I am a dick and should be banned forever should I get caught.
I used Oblivion back in broodwar for the last year or so b4 sc2 came out. Mostly for the unlimited unit/building selection and automine. I would shut MH off most of the time. Justified it by telling myself SC2 has these features so I might as well get used it having it now.... never hacked or thought about hacking once in sc2.
i started hacking with i think bf 2142 but with some free hacks found in the world wide web But not really a wallhack or autoaim stuff just hacks that remove the fog etc.. and i guess i didnt hack since ^^
I'm sorely tempted to start map hacking in DotA (public games only) when it's like a week or so until the release of DotA 2. I've never used a hack in my life though, cos I know how much grief it gives people. My idea is only to troll a bit of the people that always seem to squash me, but I know I'll get picked up easily
But until that moment, I will never condone any use of hax for whatever purpose. I even know that if I do go ahead with the trolling that I am a dick and should be banned forever should I get caught.
Hacking/cheating in single player, sure. In multi-player? fuck no, people that do that disgust me to no end. At least in SP you're only "ruining" your own fun, in MP you ruin that of others.
Maphack in d2, like many others. Didn't really hurt anyone with it though, I just loved collecting set/unique items for myself and never traded them. Would never hack in a multiplayer situation.
When I was younger I used a wallhack in CS once, then I got scared and stopped using them since- cause I thought I was gonna get VAC banned lol. I never hacked after that (cause I got admin and that was way better than hacks).
Used aimbot for Action Quake 2 and multihacks for CS when I was like 10-12, got bored of all those shizzle like after 10 games or so. Never after, don't really understand how anyone can use them while being older than the previously mentioned age group :p
Hahaha ya back in bw. Map hacked all day lol. map hacking is no easy task, it takes skills to map hack and keep it secret. Ofcourse later on I got banned lol. So I just made another account..lol oh memories
I've only used the in-game cheat codes for Broodwar and Heroes 3 to finish the campaigns for this two games, at that time my 13 year old mind couldn't handle the difficulty.
To this day I still regret spoiling the ending of this great games with cheat codes, because a few years later when I had more experience and returned to finish the campaigns without any cheats, I was just amazed how good and rewarding it felt to finish them with my own strategy and skill. And that is when I said to myself... I WILL NEVER use a cheat (or hack) again to spoil a game .. NEVER!
As for multiplayer it has never crossed my mind. Because of the experience that I mentioned above, I never understood why people enjoy cheating in multiplayer. Destroying people with my own skill is what drives me to play, not the action of winning.
I've maphacked in d2, it was a huge waste of time if not, and it came to a point that when rushing others or doing runs was such an advantage to have mh, that nearly ever1 used it
I've ran my own WoW private servers, which makes it feel like you're hacking. Flying around (with no mount) ... spawning world bosses wherever you want ... using mage spells as a rogue ... etc.
I never hacked in a competitive game. I did imagine the ways to better use and hide the hacks other people used, just for the sake of proving to myself that even if I would hack I would do even that better than those others. Never actually did though.
I used speedhack on a private wow server though, since travel in wow is for ass. If I need to get to the next capital to fulfill "my next goal" and I actually need like 15+ minutes to get there on foot, it just isn´t tolerable for me. Yes it´s big, but if I can actually count my amount of time doing menial/trivial tasks and walking as more than 15% each, somethings wrong.
only hacks/cheats i ever used online was in diablo2.
maphack like 90% of the players but also from heavy trading i got in contact with more shady people. at one point knew about a rollback (free crafting, this was .09 era ) that very little knew about and that didnt got fixed till months/years later.
was like 14/15 back then. looking at it know i shouldve exploited it like crazy and made money with it ~~ instead i quit soon after and used the exploit just a few times for testing purposes mostly.
oh and in flyff (some crappy free2play mmo) there was a funny hack running rampart for some time.basicly gave you admin powers in the game world.screen wide aoe attack with hundreds of thousands of dmg etc. i joined the crew for shits and giggles. played the game like 3-4 weeks, hacked for 2-3 days then quit.
other then that i never hacked/cheated in any way, esp not in any competive games. makes no sense to me. so ya i did some shady business but nothing major and i can still say that i 100% earned all my wins/kills in all the rts/fps i played online.
for singleplayer cheats i only really remember 2 things: 1. sc/bw campaign. when i got bored of a mission or couldnt do it (this was before i started playing online so i sucked.bad.)
2. baldurs gate 1/2 using a character editor to give me HP potions since i couldnt find enough for my needs and didnt want to fill my priests spellbook with heal spells only. also i was quite young when i first played it sothe game def wasnt easy for me.
On January 07 2012 10:50 Capped wrote: Nowadays i despise any sort of hack, online or offline (known as a cheat.) i feel sorry for the poor souls who do hack as they clearly have no social life or skills and do it for attention and to grief people. (Angsty teenagers who get bullied at school trying to "cyber-bully" trolol.)
this makes absolutely no sense. You hate cheaters and project all kinds of bitter things on them (no social life, craving for attantion, bullied school kids) which have no relation to cheating at all. Most people cheat because they like winning. And no, there is no absolute justice in the world that makes sure their life is miserable.
When CoD UO was the big thing, my dad used aim bot and other hacks in order to catch hackers on his server. He'd log out then log back on with the hack and then just spectate people and would react accordingly, and he told me, "If I ever catch you hacking, you're grounded. You don't even need hacks, they'll just make you worse at the game."
But only because i tried playing about 10 minutes of counter strike with wall hack back in like 2003. My only experience with cheats, except the "e=mc2trooper" etc in AoE single played when i was likr 6-7. But i dont really consider "build-it" codes for single player to be cheats, and most certainly not "hacks".
i used to get accused of hacking all the time in CS, but i never did, it really made me feel awesome but then again i never played pro or anything so it was just scrubs who didn't know how good peoples aim/reaction speed can get if you play enough. I also felt like i was hacking whenever i played smashbrothers64 as fox XD.
Never used a hack, but back in my CS days we would have a guy put on a wall hack and run around our private server during practice to look for walling locations. Been accused of hacking many many times though
I've been on a few random 2's teams with players who map hack, and it really took away the feeling of actually playing a game for me. Instead of thinking strategy and scouting it was oh, they're doing this? well obviously the counter is this. no fun and all epeen.
Used maphack in SC1, Maphack and some farmbots in 1.09. Thats pretty much it. Once I lost a ton of items in D2 for using mephbot, I just stopped using hacks/cheats.
I used to wallhack in CS 1.4 and CS: Source, that's it. I only did it to grief my friends, never did it on my real account either. I was playing in CAL at the same time,
heh, no, but only b/c I'm not good at using computers and getting a hack was too much trouble.
if I could easily hack in a game I didn't care about playing, like GOW or COD, I'd totally do it for a laugh and bm everyone while proclaiming myself the best player in the world.
On SCBW battle net, I eventually learned that a HUGE number of people were hacking, and that blizzard had completely stopped trying to fight it. Then I learned there were a growing number of people using "anti-hack" hacks, or hacks to detect hackers. The entire server was like hacker wars more than actual starcraft. I know, I was stupid for using battle net in the first place.
The sad thing is, I know that SC2 is designed in a similar enough way that eventually this will be the fate of SC2 servers as well. The fact of the matter is that it isn't possible for Blizzard to detect external maphacks, and therefore they cannot stop hacking or it's inevitable growth. They could theoretically detect it by scanning external processes, but I believe they were sued for doing that very thing in WoW and haven't done it in years.
That's part of the reason I've never taken SC2 as seriously as I wanted to. There is no way to prevent someone from having a massive advantage over you. I guess in LAN type tournaments with dedicated computers this type of thing would be preventable, but the ladder and any online tournament is subject to hacking.
So long as the majority of people play legit, I will not use hacks. But once a large enough percentage of people start using hacks in a game, I consider them simply a new part of the game and start using them in order to not be completely helpless against other hackers.
On January 08 2012 04:33 liberal wrote: On SCBW battle net, I eventually learned that a HUGE number of people were hacking, and that blizzard had completely stopped trying to fight it. Then I learned there were a growing number of people using "anti-hack" hacks, or hacks to detect hackers. The entire server was like hacker wars more than actual starcraft. I know, I was stupid for using battle net in the first place.
The sad thing is, I know that SC2 is designed in a similar enough way that eventually this will be the fate of SC2 servers as well. The fact of the matter is that it isn't possible for Blizzard to detect external maphacks, and therefore they cannot stop hacking or it's inevitable growth. They could theoretically detect it by scanning external processes, but I believe they were sued for doing that very thing in WoW and haven't done it in years.
That's part of the reason I've never taken SC2 as seriously as I wanted to. There is no way to prevent someone from having a massive advantage over you. I guess in LAN type tournaments with dedicated computers this type of thing would be preventable, but the ladder and any online tournament is subject to hacking.
So long as the majority of people play legit, I will not use hacks. But once a large enough percentage of people start using hacks in a game, I consider them simply a new part of the game and start using them in order to not be completely helpless against other hackers.
They do it in sc2 and still do it in wow. (Scan for external processes affecting the game in any way)
On January 08 2012 04:33 liberal wrote: On SCBW battle net, I eventually learned that a HUGE number of people were hacking, and that blizzard had completely stopped trying to fight it. Then I learned there were a growing number of people using "anti-hack" hacks, or hacks to detect hackers. The entire server was like hacker wars more than actual starcraft. I know, I was stupid for using battle net in the first place.
The sad thing is, I know that SC2 is designed in a similar enough way that eventually this will be the fate of SC2 servers as well. The fact of the matter is that it isn't possible for Blizzard to detect external maphacks, and therefore they cannot stop hacking or it's inevitable growth. They could theoretically detect it by scanning external processes, but I believe they were sued for doing that very thing in WoW and haven't done it in years.
That's part of the reason I've never taken SC2 as seriously as I wanted to. There is no way to prevent someone from having a massive advantage over you. I guess in LAN type tournaments with dedicated computers this type of thing would be preventable, but the ladder and any online tournament is subject to hacking.
So long as the majority of people play legit, I will not use hacks. But once a large enough percentage of people start using hacks in a game, I consider them simply a new part of the game and start using them in order to not be completely helpless against other hackers.
They do it in sc2 and still do it in wow. (Scan for external processes affecting the game in any way)
No, I don't believe they do in SC2. Their EULA says that they can, but that haven't done it since SC2 was released at least. There are hackers who have used external hacks since release and never been detected or banned.
I've used wallhack in Counter-Strike 1.6 and source. The reason I did it on Source was because my family's computer at the time couldn't handle the game, so despite 10fps I found it fun to wallhack. I did it in 1.6 because I got bored after 5 years with it. Both games were full of hackers, which is why I thought "why the hell not". My mentality back then were different than mine now. I would never touch exploiting programs now.
Yeah hacked when I was like 12 in Brood War playing on fastest map. Also botted in World of Warcraft to level characters through Battlegrounds and gear up alts.
I think people overstate things to an extreme degree with statements like "on battle.net a HUGE number of people hack." or "in war3 50% of people mh"
One of the games that gets the most flack for having many hackers and I've even known people who quit the game over it is the free to play shooter, APB. The crying about hacks is almost endless and you'd think there was a hacker in every game, but the truth is that only about 2% of players hack in that game. I don't know what the stats are for broodwar, but I can't imagine it being much more than that. The simple fact is that the vast majority of players don't even know what a hack is.
Back on topic: I'm a huge fan of exploiting and will abuse absolutely anything that exists in the game. If you don't, you're doing it wrong. It's up to the devs to make the game function the way they intend it to - not my job to play by some artificial set of constraints when an easier route is available to me.
I usually try hacks as well in a controlled enviornment to learn how they work.
I actually used this float glitch in early early WoW... We'd all fly to the end of instances and kill bosses for the loot heh. Also benefited from people duping in other MMOs, but never did it myself. However, I've never used what I'd call a, "direct competitive advantage" hack vs other players.
I remember having this homehosted vcod (yep, the very first (and the best) call of duty) server, and we installed this mod to spectate people while we were in a team, to check for hackers without having anyone in the spectator list, and so on. Eventually we discovered a bug in the mod which would make us spawn invisible, so we would 'haunt' other people. I guess this is a hack technically, because you'd need admin rights to (ab)use it, but it actually was a lot of fun (until the server became empty.... lol)
Couple of times in Counter Strike 1.5 I used aimbot and wallhack called OGC. I played on my brothers CD key, so he was pretty mad when he noticed I had gotten us banned on some servers.
Also in Runescape (the old one) I used to use bots to grind for me, but eventually I got banned and stopped playing.
Nowadays the worst thing I have done is use AutoMouseClicker to not get kicked out of battlegrounds in WoW while watching a movie or something. I don't count that as cheating though.
Nowadays the worst thing I have done is use AutoMouseClicker to not get kicked out of battlegrounds in WoW while watching a movie or something. I don't count that as cheating though.
Far worse than using a hack IMO. At least with hackers in shooters and most hackers in RTS it's obvious and you can laugh while trying to defeat them. And they are using the hack to defeat a person they are supposed to be against. AFKing a battle ground directly hurts all the people on your team - the people you're supposed to be helping and is the ultimate form of online narcissism. I personally believe they should make AFKing a bannable offense, or at the very least remove all your PvP gear if you're caught, rather than just kicking you out and giving you a joke debuff.
I tried a bunch of hacks for like 2 weeks in the very late years of MOHAA to learn how FPS games feel like for a hacker and be able to spot them more easily.
In single player games I will sometimes create a seperate game/save/house where I will use cheats and fuck around. Never in multiplayer games, I don't find it appealling.
I personally believe they should make AFKing a bannable offense, or at the very least remove all your PvP gear if you're caught, rather than just kicking you out and giving you a joke debuff.
I'm pretty sure it is bannable if you get caught by a GM. I agree it sucks when you actually try to win and others leech, I have been there done that. But when you need to grind honor for multiple characters, some people would rather make it easier for themselves.
Never played any stat-based game, so never really had the occasion to use «small hacks» (automation). Never have been tempted by «big hacks» (maphacks, micro hacks, ...).
Absolutely. Runescape auto-wood cutting and a bunch of Maplestory stuff (god-mode, item vacuum, hitting everything on map). Although to be honest it never really payed out for me because I spent so much time updating the hacks and having to reset them when they crashed on my computer. I was also like 14, so I probably barely knew what I was doing.
Used aimbot in counterstrike source (on surf maps) because i got bored, kinda dumb and i got caught and kicked alot but i never got banned from steam, and i dont care much for playing FPS games "legit" so yeah, would never cheat in any kind of competitive game though.
I used hacks in a game called Crossfire when the first good hacks were out. I stopped using them after a few days, and got really good. I don't use them now, and I haven't for the past year.
About 10-12 years ago on msn zone I used hacks in AoE1. At the young age I hated losing and when the opponent brought out the Bigdaddy cheat unit we'd have a nice race car war.
On January 07 2012 19:53 Kickboxer wrote: Only scumbags use hacks lol. I don't even use them in single player games. What's the point?
Hacks and cheats are different things. some people hack just to troll, some people hack so they can be good at a game they'd otherwise be bad at, and cheats are usually there to make the game easier or more fun
On January 08 2012 05:31 Zelniq wrote: "Yes and i continue to do so." 4% jeezes..and that's just those who are being honest
It's talking about all multiplayer games. There's a ton of multiplayer games where hacks are pretty much a given and are used to make older games fun, not necessarily to hack against other people.
No. Not in online multiplayer, certainly not in any kind of competitive multiplayer game. The only hack I've ever actually used was Jamala's Hero Editor for D2, but that was just me fucking around on single player to see what kind of character I could make.
Cheat codes of course I've used, but again, those are single player.
i used a map hack with my buddy in the 6th or 7th grade, on the money maps before they had stacked minerals. we would cannon rush and i guess thought it was entertaining for about a week.
My friend still uses maphack in sc2 and its pretty fucking insane he can open a production tab and all that kind of shit, and he went into masterleague prob GM now, but he does it in a good so he doesn't get caught my suprise is that he still gets away with it blizz aint doing a good job. but not like i will snitch
On January 08 2012 08:47 Mawi wrote: My friend still uses maphack in sc2 and its pretty fucking insane he can open a production tab and all that kind of shit, and he went into masterleague prob GM now, but he does it in a good so he doesn't get caught my suprise is that he still gets away with it blizz aint doing a good job. but not like i will snitch
I really wonder how you can lose with a maphack on sc2 ^^ No bashing, I really don't know (if you have the mechanic of a master league)
On January 08 2012 08:47 Mawi wrote: My friend still uses maphack in sc2 and its pretty fucking insane he can open a production tab and all that kind of shit, and he went into masterleague prob GM now, but he does it in a good so he doesn't get caught my suprise is that he still gets away with it blizz aint doing a good job. but not like i will snitch
I really wonder how you can lose with a maphack on sc2 ^^ No bashing, I really don't know (if you have the mechanic of a master league)
Yep, in maple story back a couple years cus it takes one month of constant grinding to level up. Why i'd ever continue pushing one button for a month just to level up one level was stupid..
On January 07 2012 10:50 Capped wrote: Yes, but once or twice when younger only.
As opposed to having done it once or twice when you were older?
When you're younger you don't realize how bad it is for the game and for yourself, so I'd say its more acceptable then when older. I guess it depends what younger is.
when i was like 15 i cheated in a free fps for like a month. other than that, nope, and i would never cheat again (i never got caught just for the record)
The only time I have ever considered using hacks was for Maplestory when grinding took days to level up. Never did, but I really wanted to cause it took forever to level.
On January 07 2012 10:50 Capped wrote: Yes, but once or twice when younger only.
As opposed to having done it once or twice when you were older?
When you're younger you don't realize how bad it is for the game and for yourself, so I'd say its more acceptable then when older. I guess it depends what younger is.
"When younger" includes your whole life up to this point, no?
I'm pretty sure I've never been older than I am now, at the very least.
On January 07 2012 10:50 Capped wrote: Yes, but once or twice when younger only.
As opposed to having done it once or twice when you were older?
When you're younger you don't realize how bad it is for the game and for yourself, so I'd say its more acceptable then when older. I guess it depends what younger is.
"When younger" includes your whole life up to this point, no?
I'm pretty sure I've never been older than I am now, at the very least.
When is now? Do you think time is infinitely divisible into smaller chunks? If so, than what is 'now'?
ah best hack ever was in halo CE for xbox over xbconnect
we played a 4v2 and got destroyed
game 1 ctf on damnation, 3-1, these guys are amazing game 2 slayer on hang em high, auto headshot. EVERYTHING. nades stick to heads, and i watched a frag bounce off my friends head and realized that game3, ctf on blood gulch. we realize they have auto headshot, and can shoot thru walls. you're in a cave on the side and a sniper round 1 hits you and you see the line go across the map.
Never in a multiplayer game. Show your money or console in skyrim. If you're too young or your saves have been lost in single player. Though I've overtly accused innocent people of hacking when I couldn't figure out how on earth they got that many mutas on 2 base.... :3
I've never used hacks in an online game. Used cheats on occasion in single player games, but that was only after I beat the campaign, and simply didn't want to try as hard the second time around p
I used hack once in a game using my smurf account because the next day a new patch neutralizing the hack would be released anyway, so that night I decided to play a few games with the hack just for shits and giggles.
I technically have, in Diablo 2, maphack and ran many a bot back in the day, but Diablo 2 hardly counts as EVERYONE hacks in that game.
I've used other peoples mods in Halo 2 custom games, that doesn't count either though. Would have been interesting to have my own modded Xbox back in the day but I was much more into the MLG scene back then, and I had almost 6000 games played anyway.
I considered using a rapid-fire script for dual pistols in Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory, but I was too lazy to learn to use it. I ended up learning to aim/shot people more efficiently with the submachine guns instead.
Never used any hacks. Not even maphack in D2. Farming on HC with a druid without maphack/chicken script/whatever wasn't easy. That vanished one of the summers in between high school years.
Once I believe, but I mean it should hardly even count.. It was one of those text based RPG type things online for the iPhone (The kind of stuff you see on Facebook like Mafia Wars) I was bored and it was really stupid but I jailbroke my iPhone and opened up the games coding and gave myself x999999999 every stat, money, etc, and attacked the top players and won like 50 times in a row, got bored, uninstalled, and never really looked back.
BW: Friends and I played with a maphack in a couple 3v3/4v4 BGH games back in like 2000. We spent more time looking at our opponents' bases than our own and did terribly. Never tried that again.
CS: I played CS for years without ever being accused of hacking (well maybe once or twice). One day in 2001-2002 I downloaded a wallhack/aimbot and immediately got accused of hacking. I turned it off right then lol.
D2: maphack like everyone else, but I also ran bots and duped items on USEast.
I guess I haven't hacked in 10 years, although I have written some greasemonkey scripts to automate tasks in various browser games.
In maplestory I hacked the delay out of my attack animation, so it would attack every key press (or at a speed greater than what registered on the game if i held the button). This was years ago, though.
I've never hacked at any other online game, but I am a shameless cheater when it comes to anything offline.
Cheating, or hacking in an online gaming, is something I only do if it improves my own enjoyment. I'd hack an MMO if i thought I could consistently get away with it, and it improved my overall enjoyment. I wouldn't use a hacked character in any of the competitive features of an MMO.
Heh, I got lucky with my lack of reading the poll before answering... That'll teach me to attempt to browse TL in a half-awake state. T_T;
I only used hacks once way back when I played Unreal Tournament online(I'm talking eight or more years ago) because I kept on getting in hacked lobbies, so I decided to try to fight back... Didn't work out so well. x_x
Often with games like Fallout/Elder Scrolls/other such games I use skin packs, health hacks, console commands, the whole sha-bang. I get bored of those kind of games fairly quickly, and that's usually the best way for me to keep things exciting. ^__^
Sometimes I hacked in MapleStory, but that was a while ago and I've gotten tired of the game now. Other than that, no, I've never hacked in any other video game and I doubt I will again. It's sort of risky (some hacks contain viruses) and a waste of time unless you know what you're doing.
Had to maphack in D2. At least one in your party did and if you didn't, you didn't know wtf to go. Also botted in D2 for a little while till I got out of it. Manually tried to get SOJs, but it was nearly impossible.
Not really, in halo 2 I had to deal with modders and secondary standbyers so I would have my friend force host on me and than if we ran into cheaters I would standby them so we could get the win. I don't think that counts as hacking but since it is cheating I will put it on. Only used it against other cheaters would be funny to hear them rage when I did it to them other than that no, I don't find any enjoyment in that.
On January 08 2012 08:47 Mawi wrote: My friend still uses maphack in sc2 and its pretty fucking insane he can open a production tab and all that kind of shit, and he went into masterleague prob GM now, but he does it in a good so he doesn't get caught my suprise is that he still gets away with it blizz aint doing a good job. but not like i will snitch
I really wonder how you can lose with a maphack on sc2 ^^ No bashing, I really don't know (if you have the mechanic of a master league)
On January 08 2012 12:34 Clearout wrote: Never in a multiplayer game. Show your money or console in skyrim. If you're too young or your saves have been lost in single player. Though I've overtly accused innocent people of hacking when I couldn't figure out how on earth they got that many mutas on 2 base.... :3
totally raged/bitched about the muta thing. but then again i am in gold league. soo i either and too late or prepare for the mutas but they never come and its just a mass roach +1rngattk on 2base and just hate life for not scouting :/ damn i need to practice more if i wanna ever hit diamond
as for cheats did mass money on bw in customs with friends to troll each other doing still things like mass archon or reaver againist mass ultra or something lol been a few years lol
I used to maphack in Broodwar, but that was just on East so I can be on equal footing with 75% of other players
I had some really fun mirror matches, where it was clear we were both hacking a few minutes in a game of ZvZ; I know this because we both made 5 hatcheries with 4 expansions before a spawning pool, without scouting at all:D
PvP was hilarious as well, my opponent would make a citadel, and I would make a robo, only to see him cancel the citadel and make 3 (4 total) gates, in which case I cancel my robo and make a citadel, leading him to cancel 3 gates and make a robo and the cycle repeats.
I used to aimbot in CS 1.6 back when aiming in FPS was hard as shit, and sometimes me and 4 friends get together and we map hack in DotA to troll people.
I also botted in Maplestory, no way I was actually spend time playing.
On January 07 2012 10:59 eYeball wrote: No but back when I was young and played CS 1.6 I was close to using it, I was playing some ranked games on a site and this guy cheated like there was no tomorrow. Even his teammates said it also, I got so angry after the games that I went searched on google for wallhacks but I calmed down before, and didn't download it. I think I quit playing for a couple of days though.
I used to use the "Mousepad" maphack for a while in Diablo 2 when I was younger when I would help speed rush people in my clan, but other than that, no.
I used the mousepad maphack back in D2 all the time when I was doing farming runs. Because seriously, who the hell did MF runs back then and wasted time wandering through the randomly generated maps each time? If you couldn't do a single Mephisto run in a minute or so, it was considered "doing it wrong".
hacked in rakion + maplestory. rakion so I could use cash items without buying it and maplestory cuz its maplestory and everyone hacks on that game until the big bang patch
I hacked back in the day. I thought everyone did it though. Thats also back when I thought anyone with more than 100 wins was obviously a hacker as well.
I think I used a map hack once or twice eons ago playing FMP in BW, but that's about it. Pretty surprising that there are actually people openly willing to admit they continue to use hacks currently.
Honestly, I have never used a hack. I wish I understood in detail how they work though. I find it really interesting to de-construct stuff like that, to understand how the mechanics work.
Never ever hack'd/cheated in any online game I ever played. Neither SC/SC2/UT/all BF's/all CoD's etc etc etc
Only thing I did was using singleplayer cheats from time to time, especially in skyrim as I often had problems with bugged doors,treasures,quests... -.-
On January 08 2012 16:21 Mohdoo wrote: To the people who voted yes and continue, do you mean D2? If not, what do you hack in and how do you justify it?
I don't feel like D2 maphacks count.
Ofc it does as it gives you an advantage over players that dont.
On January 08 2012 16:21 Mohdoo wrote: To the people who voted yes and continue, do you mean D2? If not, what do you hack in and how do you justify it?
I don't feel like D2 maphacks count.
Ofc it does as it gives you an advantage over players that dont.
It gives you a convenience over other players, not really an advantage. it's really a joke to put it in the same category as RTS maphacking or Wallhacking or Aimhacking etc. I mean, you didn't really use it AGAINST other players, you used it against the AI, and it didn't help you kill them, just took less time bullshitting to get to the thing you wanted to fight.
I hacked big time in MapleStory. Game's run by hackers anyway. I wasn't even trying to be competitive, just wanted to get by. Besides, if you played that game back in the day, you knew how long it took to level.. took me three years of normal play to get to level 70.
It was also really interesting from a technical standpoint. Figuring out how the hacks worked by exploiting shoddy/lazy coding, etc. I feel like it made me a better thinker, in a way.
In a game like StarCraft or DotA, though.. that's different. You hacking directly fucks another person over. That's not cool.
On LAN in 3v3 Counterstrike 1.3 Funmaps, sv_gravity set to 100 (default 800), than Pumpgun war :D :D :D :D. Online, in fun CW (CS:S) only against BM-Clans who flame a lot after loosing 2 rounds... rcon sv_gravity 1....wait till they jump and float....rcon sv_gravity 10000000000000 smash em in the ground... kick, change PW.
Don´t know if you want to call it hack :D but it sure is fun. Counterstrike / CS:S Online is not anymore. There was a glorious time, when all those Kid-Flamers could not run Source Engine on their PCs
Only in offline solomod or being silly in LAN with friends where we all knew and were only playing each other. Cheating in any type of multiplayer setting is stupid. If you have to do that then why even bother playing?
I cant imagine how anyone does that and feels a sense of self-achievement.
I used to bot a metric ton in WoW, and I was a well-known player in a high-ranked guild who eventually sold his account for a couple thousand. I don't regret it at all and would do it every time. HOWEVER, I would never hack in any sort of competitive game. That was more so because it was a really boring necessary evil, and I didn't want to work at a game. It's also not like I was speed hacking or anything like that to get any advantage other than more time. (I got 1 warning over 2 years, and I botted at least 96 hours a week. My account was always on for weeks at a time (when I wasn't botting I was playing).
My friend borrowed his cousins sc2 account and maphacked on it, as well did I. I actually did WORSE with the hack than I did normally. So after a couple games I never did it again.
Only game I've really hacked/exploited in is Diablo 2 during my big stints playing the game.
Round 1 (patch 1.08 / 1.09 - when I first played diablo 2 regularly/often/alot online)
Used to have an internet cafe up the road which I played at a number of times a week. When counter strike was insanely popular where I live. lan games of cs, diablo2 on battle.net and the odd game of brood war (though not often coz the asians used to dominate lol)
Anyway...
Maphack: Technically it is a hack, but at the time everyone was using it and it wasn't even thought of as a bannable offence at the time. I mean sure you were breaking the rules in the toc's but no one was getting banned for using it (this was 2001-2002).
Duping: Asians we used to play with at the netcafe got sent a program that help dupe items for you. Mass sojs and windforces for everyone! (remember this is before 1.10 and the op runewords )
Round 2: (patch 1.11 - friends started playing d2 again so I decided to play again)
Only used one hack during this time. NH (NiceHack). By this point people were getting banned for using maphacks, but someone I knew online showed me NH. It had a few uses but all I used it was changing the text colour of runes to purple instead of white (so they stood out from the normal/non magic items).
But mostly for its nifty auto teleport to important places thing it had. Say if I wanted to farm meph/the countess/baal/most permanent bosses in the game really. Instead of going to the waypoint and having to manually teleport around the place till I get to where I need to be.. I would get to the waypoint and just push "N" and it would get me to where I need to be (a bot using the teleport spell from a sorc/enigma).
I used to exploit quite abit during this time aswell lol =/.
Bug rushing people (this was very common) Leveling up characters in uber tristram (1 hour to lvl 80, 3 hours to lvl 90. few of us pitched in together and had a good 'business' on d2jsp for a while. I had a lvl 93 paladin with maxed meditation aura lol (needed insane mana regen to be safe while we afk'd))
Duping: Yes again lol, this time there was no hack/3rd party program used. We basically used necromancers and spammed bonewall (or bone prison) everywhere till the game lagged out / everyone got disconnected. Blizzard had a thing where games would stay up for a few/several minutes if everyone got disconnected with the lag.
I forgot exactly in which order everything went, but we had characters drop items we wanted to dupe in town (mostly high runes, items with good stats to make runewords in) and we'd have necromancers spamming bonewall just outside of town.
Basically what you were trying to achieve was to get your characters to disconnect and suffer abit of a rollback. So if you were successful with the lagging the game out enough and dropping your items at the right time. Your characters would still have the items on them/in their inventory. And their would still be items on the ground in the game that everyone got disconnected from.
I used mods in Combat Arms, which is not really hacking, but it's still modifying the files and a bannable offense (which Nexon can't track anyway), but otherwise I never did anything hacking related in games.
I tried a couple hacks in the counter-strike beta. One so that you could tell the hostages to follow you when you were dead. Another that allowed you to respawn after dying if you died early enough in the round the spawn if you had just joined the server. I only tried them out for a day or two then went back to thousands more hours of playing counter-strike and CSS without hacks. Tonight I just played Battlefield 3 where someone was hacking. The guy was on my team so I didn't see exactly what is was doing to people. Just killing 66 and dying twice. It totally ruined the game for everyone. I wish it were impossible to hack in modern online games.
I just used cheats once on a small LAN with friends to troll them first it was pretty funny but as it got boring after a minute or so I just turned it off. so I think using cheats for trolling people you know is ok but only until it gets boring. BTW SP cheats are ok as they can be funny and they can help through difficult parts of the game or jsut make the boring parts less boring (like always getting the best car beamed right in front of you in GTA).But I use SP cheats very rarely cuz most of the games are too easy anyways^^
I used maphack and pickit and all of that shit in Diablo II, and I have absolutely no regrets.
I also used to maphack on Vanilla SC in 3v3 or 4v4 Fastest games. I also really don't regret that either, considering everyone who plays Fastest hacks anyways. When all 8 players are doing it it actually gets surprisingly fun.
I've never hacked in BW or anything else since though.
A friend of mine also got his CDkey banned from Bnet for running a file called exploit.exe.
When it's at the point where even Tiger's AH from the failed TLTour could catch your hack, you're probably an idiot.
The only one i extensively used was the maphack in D2. I tried out some bots to do some mephisto runs or that guy on act V but it didn't really work smoothly so I never used it that much, but I had the intention too.
On January 07 2012 11:01 LegendaryZ wrote: Diablo 2: Hacked items, Map Hack, Meph/Pindle Bot Starcraft: Drop Hack, Map Hack Counterstrike: Map Hack, Wall Hack, Speed Hack, Aimbot, etc. Gunbound: Aimbot Maplestory: Vacuum Hack, Health/Mana Hack, Attack Speed/Damage Hack, Invulnerability, Botting Every other MMORPG I ever played: Botting
Honestly, for every single game I played, if there was a hack, cheat or bot available, I've probably used it at some point or another...
Gz.... You must be proud of yourself for taking wins you don't deserve for years in a lot of games.... How is this even fun? Once twice I get it, but that much.. eh.. As for me, no I have never used, and probably won't.
I'm not sure you'd rate it as a hack but, I botted throughout 7 years of WoW. (Bought 100's of thousands of gold)
And I wouln't really classify myselves as someone without social skills / no life as you put it, quite the opposite.
In MMORPG's atleast, I enjoy leveling the first character, then, not so much. I enjoy the game due to the challenges (it used to have..) and thoose are all on maxlevel.
I do not have the time, I'd rather spend it with my family. And the precious time I have for gaming, for high end raiding/pvp so I'd rather pay for a bot subscription or a powerleveler to do the leveling for me. I'd rather spend 1 hour at work and fund 2 days of powerleveling or a month of a licensed botfee.
As with hacks, I dunno, I tried out wallhack in CS 1.4, nothing else, used some console hax in Skyrim to get past a bugged NPC.
Morally for me, hacking is absolutely fine, although I don't do it, however when it comes to competetive gameplay all I have to say is ......
I use maphack, Multiselect command, automatic worker build+mine all on iccup without problems + Show Spoiler +
nah just joking. I am legit player. Damn you hackers. I have norhing against hacking in single player mode, but why the hell would you want to ruin the fun from others
Edit:was a legit player. These days i dont even have other games than poker installed:/
When I was younger I'd sometimes use a name spoofer in SC:BW.. my friend would create one of those 7v1 comp stomps, and I'd join up as Computer. I'm sure you can imagine how it went from there. Silly times.
Used hacks in Diablo 2, Mousepad maphacks of course. So could just run through levels knowing where to go next always. And used dropkick hacks in battle.net Dota, back in 2008. If I do hack, it will be not to win in multiplayer games. But to get rid of bullshit in games. Diablo 2 just was exshausting after countless hours. So having free map vision helped efficency a lot. Dota back in the days, was just terriable players online. Thou times have not changed. Meaning players still ruin games and just plain suck. But now with Dota 2 we have reporting. Which takes over the drop hacks purpose with greater wide spread effect. Which I appricate a lot.
I've always wanted to try it, just merely serious. CS:S was on sale for like £3 or something few years ago so me and my friend did it. Was super amusing for few hours.
After that, I knew I only had a week or so before banned (thanks VAC) so I made most of it, most of the time just did wallhacks on surf servers. Nobody ever knew it was just amusing for me to test.
My friend was a fairly good CS:S player and did a Team match with wallhacks on. It made him a worse player because he was trying to make it look like he wasn't hacking too much that it affected him.
During my youth, I may have been guilty for using key loggers with friends on every PC at a cybercafe for D2 passwords. In hindsight, it's a good thing internet banking didn't really exist at that time.
Wtf would you mess around with other people like that? Now cheats (single player) is another matter, in case of RPGs where you freaking need to grind yourself to earth.
Only hacks I've used is duping/etc in D2. That was when I was like 12 or 13 and never since, 23 now.
I have a friend who is convinced I hack in fps games though. I think 15 odd years of playing fps and almost 20 years of gaming entitles me to be decent at the very least.
diablo 2: calarsi dupe hack, maphack, and d2jsp bot. sc1: winbot to destroy ladder for fun, maphack if i know they're using a maphack, and name spoof/drop hack to troll people.
maphack d2 ap hack once or twice in gunz and in RO i was the most famous "hacker" for using grf edits, rpe, wpe, autopot, ahk, and everything inbetween. none are truly hacks, they're more like exploits. funny thing is most of the things people referred to as "hacks" ended up being common practice among top guilds because there was no way to prevent them and they gave an advantage so dominant strategy was to use them and they became acceptable lol...
Yeah, I've used savegame editors and hex editors in singleplayer games to mess around in them, for instance grandia II and also elderscrolls:morrowind. Also no I don't think there's anything wrong with that =P
Age of Empires, I used the standard 'Trainer' for those who would partake in Wonder Wars. In case some nerd wouldn't leave the game, you could Big Daddy them out.
One guy got super viscious and attacked my PC, so I wasn't allowed to play AoE for a couple months. I also had to write 'I will never cheat again' 500 times.
I'm not sure if it counts, but a ton of Gameshark for Pokemon. Sometimes you just don't want to start with one of the originals, and a level 5 Rhyhorn sounds neat!
Dabbled in hacks in CS 1.6 for a week, got VAC banned and never bothered on VAC secure servers ever again. Played with them on non-secure servers (where everyone hacks) for a month or whatever. It was kind of funny. Never really bothered to hack in any other game, though. Not even maphacks in d2.
In counterstrike I joined a team that every used hacks and we arranged clan wars against other teams that used hacks so was like hackers vs hackers and play on servers were everyone was suppose to use hacks. I only played in the team for month or 2 never played with hacks ever again
On January 09 2012 03:30 Moosey wrote:One guy got super viscious and attacked my PC, so I wasn't allowed to play AoE for a couple months. I also had to write 'I will never cheat again' 500 times.
What, did the guy DDoS you or something? Who made you write it 500 times?
I used to use hacks for Gunbound back in the day. Didn't start out using them, but after a while it seemed like everyone in every game was getting perfect shots and a billion gp so they would advance ranks like crazy. It was neat to see all of the different vehicles SS hit perfectly, but after that things just got boring.
Yeah, in D2 open bnet like pretty much 99% of the players there as well as using a trainer for SC2 campaign. Goes without saying I'm playing with my second copy of sc2 now, lol.
I used to play Runescape back in the day (please don't judge lol), and I remember working really hard getting to 80 fishing, then i realised a machine can do it for me so... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
D2 maphack obviously, which everyone used back in the day. I recently played D2 again for 2/3 months and most decent players are even botting now with 7 chars. So I did the same thing =P
I once got banned on VAC also in CS1.6, cause the best way to check someone had wallhack is to download a wallhack yourself and watch his demo with wallhack on. And I forgot to turn it off when I joined a public.
On January 09 2012 18:44 Celadan wrote: No, using hacks are retarded since it eliminates the purpose of competitive gaming. Hackers usually are dumb people tho...
Having a different opinion to yours must mean that they are dumb...
I think its the feeling that you get that makes you feel like a good player or something.. cuz youre beating players better than you, using hacks.. but aimbotting and speedhacking i dont see the sense in that... guess its just for fun?
Yes, when I got sick of playing counter-strike normally I resorted to hacks and ghosting with my best friend. This was around 1.4 probably 2000 or 2001, the last time I ever played CS.
My friend and I were really really good at that game, too good for most public servers. Funnily enough, my legit account got banned on more servers than my hacking account it seems. I got kind of tired of having to dumb down my playing so that people didn't accuse me. So rather than find some organized team or legit server I just decided to hack in random servers. Though I did not use aim bots, they actually made my kdr worse. It was hard to let go of my natural skills and let the aimbot take over. Too awkward.
Things we did:
-Led team mates into ambushes via ghosting. -Used the extra gore hack that made people splatter blood like Mortal Kombat when you shot them (client side only tho). -Wall hack made sniping extremely easy you could see them coming around corners n shit obviously. -There was one map with a multi-storied house in a mountain ravine (forgot the name). The CTs started far away and had to run through some caves and ravines to the house to rescue hostages. My buddy and I would get on the roof of the house and just shoot down through it at all the Ts then knife each other to low hp and suicide jump off the house. -Instant team spawn-kill with aimbot and m249. My friend would do the same to his team. We would then meet in the middle of the map and goof off. -Smoke grenade abuse, we could see through it. -Grenading choke points at exactly the right time.
I have no shame. Making white knight nerds rage and foam at the mouth was hilarious. It was fun, but not as fun as playing a legit game against good players, which was super rare.
I would do it again if I could. If you ever saw somebody with an [iTe] tag it was us. It meant In The Eye, some catchphrase we used occasionally.
I also hacked in Brood War and had a separate account for it. And I wasn't as active doing it there as at that time I kind of got bored of gaming in general and stopped playing all together.
Come on, everybody tried them out in Counter Strike! They made for a few funny games, but longterm use was boring, so I don't understand why people saw any appeal to them longterm.
In single player games, I pretty much only use cheats to make the game harder. Things like /players 8 in D2, putting the "enemy levels up" cheat in 5 consecutive times in Gladius or using 007 mode in Goldeneye to make it so that all enemies have perfect accuracy and kill you in 1 hit...
The one exception was the konami code in Contra. I used to use that until I got good enough to beat the game legitly.
I am probably responsible for ruining the Throne of Darkness community by basically teaching too many people how to completely break the game. Think a million percent damage reflect, magic aoes that last forever basically, etc.
In the old CAL days I had a separate steam account with wallhacks to find good spam spots during practice (since they don't make every map with a clearwalls variant).
On January 07 2012 10:56 1Eris1 wrote: I used an autobuyer back when I played Neopets.Mind you this was at age twelve.
I remember accidently taking a screen shot of the autobuyer and posting in my page. Needless to say someone found it and about 30 different threads went up screaming blood murder, as I was kind of a big name in Neopets. (God that sounds so pathetic)
Haven't touched crap like that sense. Only cheats I use are in singleplayer when I'm bored
Same thing :D
Man I was so cool with my 4 dragon egg things, and the lab =/ I also had a huge paint brush collection.
Ive attempted to hack back when I played CSS but i was really dumb and didnt know how to do it. Now that I am a lot older i refuse to hack in any form.
My friend once installed maphack on my Diablo 2 without me knowing... I never used it and never even knew about it until Blizzard muted my account and stuck me in The Void forever -.-'
StarCraft: Hell no, would never cheat. Despite the fact that I played on battle.net fastest maps, where everyone else did...
I mean cmon, everyone must have gotten the e=mc2 trooper on AoE1! 10 of those bad boys and you don't need to attack, just base-camp and nuke from afar!
Actually, pretty much all the cheats in AoE that gave units were cool
Yes, when I used to play MoH:AA my clan ran a very popular server with modded maps (we found all the glitch points where you could get under the map and closed them with objects, amongst other things). Because the server got popular we got a lot of hackers, and I mean a lot. So a few of us downloaded some hacks to use as a counter offensive.
We would play clean 99% of the time, but when we suspected a hacker we turned on our wall hack and stalked them, the moment we confirmed they were cheating, we converged on them and used our hacks and better skill to constantly kill them until they left.... was way more effective than banning them, because they would just come back under a new name. Ruining the game for them by counter hacking and focusing them and no one else meant they would usually rq and never come back.
This was in a time before punkbuster was popular and anti hacking was more of an art than a science lol... wouldn't ever do this now as its not really needed anymore
Well i guess if you don´t play a game seriously, it´s not that bad if you cheat one or two times.
E.g. me and a friend of mine were at a lan and decided to play metin2, a horrible game, and just had fun by using hacks for speed. If you hack all the time and to get am advantage over other people, it´s not okay.
Maphack and botting diablo II- that really is probably more due to the game being designed to make you grind and it being better to have a computer do it for you. One of the few times things become more fun with external programs Never used any hacks in competitive games, except in original starcraft for the crash protection when playing UMS maps.
In Diablo 2 I used D2 Loader in order to run 4 accounts on the same screen at the same time. I played hardcore mode, so playing in public games was impossible unless you wanted to be PKed or most likely TPPKed. Hence why you see like 3 games in public mode which are usually "Duelzzzszsz".
I ran 4 characters in a hell baal run doing this by myself, though sometimes my friend would occasionally join me.
Used maphack ONE TIME on a shared bases game in Brood War. Deleted it after that one game as I felt guilt (this was like 10-11 years ago when I was 11ish?).
On January 07 2012 10:56 1Eris1 wrote: I used an autobuyer back when I played Neopets.Mind you this was at age twelve.
I remember accidently taking a screen shot of the autobuyer and posting in my page. Needless to say someone found it and about 30 different threads went up screaming blood murder, as I was kind of a big name in Neopets. (God that sounds so pathetic)
Haven't touched crap like that sense. Only cheats I use are in singleplayer when I'm bored
Same thing :D
Man I was so cool with my 4 dragon egg things, and the lab =/ I also had a huge paint brush collection.
I should start playing again.....
From what I've hear nowadays it's nothing like it was back it 2000-2003 when I played. =/
On January 07 2012 10:56 1Eris1 wrote: I used an autobuyer back when I played Neopets.Mind you this was at age twelve.
I remember accidently taking a screen shot of the autobuyer and posting in my page. Needless to say someone found it and about 30 different threads went up screaming blood murder, as I was kind of a big name in Neopets. (God that sounds so pathetic)
Haven't touched crap like that sense. Only cheats I use are in singleplayer when I'm bored
I voted no, but I realised I did this too XD. It doesn't count because Neopets sucks and you had to use an auto-buyer if you wanted any chance of getting good items.
Hmm.. I used hacks on Doom, Doom 2, lol for god mode and i guess wall thru walks lol..Back when I was a kid and didnt get past a level. In professional esports NEVER have and NEVER will, as I actually represented a high ranked cs1.6 team in India
On January 07 2012 10:56 1Eris1 wrote: I used an autobuyer back when I played Neopets.Mind you this was at age twelve.
I remember accidently taking a screen shot of the autobuyer and posting in my page. Needless to say someone found it and about 30 different threads went up screaming blood murder, as I was kind of a big name in Neopets. (God that sounds so pathetic)
Haven't touched crap like that sense. Only cheats I use are in singleplayer when I'm bored
Same thing :D
Man I was so cool with my 4 dragon egg things, and the lab =/ I also had a huge paint brush collection.
I should start playing again.....
From what I've hear nowadays it's nothing like it was back it 2000-2003 when I played. =/
So sad, that was like a huge % of my childhood.
Yeah I played during those same years.. Man those were some good times. I used to love watching my autobuyer bring in several magic cookies and paint brushes etc.
Well, I have only used hero editor in D2 SP to reset my skill points - but it still qualifies as using a hack. In multiplayer I have never cheated, even though sometimes it seemed tempting (something like auto aim or something).
I have little to no problem with people trying things out in single player. But bringing hacks into a online community for the sole purpose of having an unfair advantage is NOT ok. Hacking to gain an unfair advantage in an online game is pretty stupid, and from what I seen, most of these hackers are kids that suck so bad, that even with hacks, they are hopeless...
Blast from the past, remember game genie or game shark? I had tons of fun messing around with my N64 and PSX games :D
Btw guys, stop confusing hacks with cheats. Cheats are usually single player based, where you aren't harming anybody but yourself (if you even believe thats true). Most cheats are put directly into the game by the makers themselves, as a way for extra fun. A hack is something developed on the outside or by finding a fault in the game (unintentional by the developers) that purposely is used to give you an advantage. (And is more than often used in multiplayer)
On January 10 2012 06:25 1Eris1 wrote: Btw guys, stop confusing hacks with cheats. Cheats are usually single player based, where you aren't harming anybody but yourself (if you even believe thats true). Most cheats are put directly into the game by the makers themselves, as a way for extra fun. A hack is something developed on the outside or by finding a fault in the game (unintentional by the developers) that purposely is used to give you an advantage. (And is more than often used in multiplayer)
this, please look up what hack and cheat mean before you post.
Used to maphack, resource hack, and drophack in SC:BW, although I only ever played UMS maps.
In Diablo 2 I used maphack, pickit, telehack, drophack, autoaim, and a variety of other packet-injection based hacks (mostly custom designed for the purpose of scamming). I also ran a ring of scammers, and we used hacks/exploits along with social engineering through collusion to steal an unbelievable amount of accounts and items.
I have never hacked in a competitive game though (never hacked in WoW arena, sc2, CS:1.6/CSS etc).
In "summoner", with hacks you could change your charater to anything in the game that was an NPC. This inculded 6 meter tall demons :D. You can imagine how you could freak out some noobies :D.
Hacking in COD MW2 doesnt really count does it? It is a crap game? Other than that, I've never had the opprotunity to use hacks. I dont wanna get banned 2 days after playing around a bit.
We had fun times with some crazy multihacks way back in CS 1.3/1.6 and DoD at LANs, I forgot to clean up afterwards once and played online DoD, VAC banned me before I even got out of the spawn :DD
I used to use Diablo 2 editor to max out stamina for offline runs...um...obvious brood war cheats when I was young like Show Me the Money, there is no cow level, operation cwal, etc. I used cheats in Doom extensively as a child.
Never hacked an online game. What's the point seriously? I prefer to put myself on an even playing field with other people.
EDIT for the ultimate cheat : Mortal Kombat blood code
I exploit glitches in Deus Ex because I'm too lazy to find additional lockpicks, and I don't want to drop anything. Doesn't feel bad because it's not a serious run.
I did not use hacks, but I'm fairly sure I benefited from them in D2. I used to be a pretty active trader on US East ladder, and everyone knows that most of the currency items (Highrunes, 290s, 3/20/20s, Perf Anni, etc) were duped using hacks. During nearly every ladder season I also ripped people off in trades terribly, some people didn't even know the value of things like eth death cleavers and one time I traded a shako for a nearly perfect COA.
I had my fare of hacking and botting in RPGs. I used a bot in Lineage 2 and plenty of hacks in counter strike. Of course i only used the wall hacks and aim for the fun of it.. I agree though, cheats and hacks always destroyed the game. took the fun out of it. but it was funny as hell when the whole team spawned and died within 5 seconds from headshots... across the map..
I used an item creator in Diablo (the original :o ) when I was really young. I didn't even see it as cheating - I just thought it was an easy way to get cool stuff (255/255 Staff of the Apocalypse, anyone?).
On January 10 2012 01:16 emythrel wrote: Yes, when I used to play MoH:AA my clan ran a very popular server with modded maps (we found all the glitch points where you could get under the map and closed them with objects, amongst other things). Because the server got popular we got a lot of hackers, and I mean a lot. So a few of us downloaded some hacks to use as a counter offensive.
We would play clean 99% of the time, but when we suspected a hacker we turned on our wall hack and stalked them, the moment we confirmed they were cheating, we converged on them and used our hacks and better skill to constantly kill them until they left.... was way more effective than banning them, because they would just come back under a new name. Ruining the game for them by counter hacking and focusing them and no one else meant they would usually rq and never come back.
This was in a time before punkbuster was popular and anti hacking was more of an art than a science lol... wouldn't ever do this now as its not really needed anymore
On January 10 2012 00:05 Nebula wrote: A big fuck you, to any of you that ever used cheats. Disgusting lack of respect for everyone involved.
Reactions like this are a big reason why some of us do it.
No.....no its not. Hackers always try to excuse themselves with common phrases like "everyone does/did it" or "you cant play the game without it".
Its 100% bullshit and everyone knows it.
It's the same as internet trolls in a way. Part of the fun is the reactions people have to it.
That was my motivation. You can call bs all you want. I know why I did it.
On January 10 2012 17:54 Seraphone wrote: Also did a lot of exploiting in WoW PvE but everyone in a good WoW guild has done a ton of that.
To be fair pvp was set up to almost encourage account sharing. Wanted rank 14. Better start account sharing. Did your best and only appropriately geared [class/spec] have to go. Have another hop on his account. Perhaps it's been made better since but I only know like classic wow when that stuff was necessary to stay competetive.
On January 10 2012 17:42 McClellen wrote: I'll admit it. Runescape.
I played that game so many hours without actually being at my computer.
You admit what? Botting at runescape or playing runescape? Both of which are pretty embarrassing things to do. :p Just kidding!
I used bots with Ragnarok for a while and then I stopped, my friend sent me some hacks in CoD which I tried for about 15 mins and a few more which I can't think of right now.
I love trying out hacks in games just so I can easily tell if I'm playing with a hacker or not. I just try it once and not abuse it because for me hacks are pretty boring if you're winning just because of it.
Can't say I've ever used hacks, having played primarily console games my whole life. However, some multi-player games just have way too many glitches which people exploit quite heavily. Socom comes to mind. My friends and I used to love glitching through walls or glitching out of bounds on smaller maps when people would lag-switch or glitch against us. I remember games where everybody would be glitching like it was a normal strategy for everyone to be out of bounds.
Maphack in D2 and a trainer program in the original Diablo as well. Yes, I was that dirty bastard who'd roll a level 3 warrior and pretend to be begging for help to kill the butcher. I had quite the collection of ill-gotten ears =D
That's it for me though. I'm not sure what it was about the diablo games that lured me to the dark side and turned me into what I despised most.
I think maphacking is a great way to "dig into" and start to understand a game. If you don't understand the very basics of a game, maphacking can let you see what your opponent is doing without having to guess his moves. I have hacked in every single multiplayer game I ever played, and will continue to do so.
On January 11 2012 00:06 FunnyPicture wrote: I think maphacking is a great way to "dig into" and start to understand a game. If you don't understand the very basics of a game, maphacking can let you see what your opponent is doing without having to guess his moves. I have hacked in every single multiplayer game I ever played, and will continue to do so.
Thats what replays are made for.
Also, I never hacked. But I cheated in "games that are only fun using cheats" like GTA where you just cheat yourself a jet and fly through the city destroying cars n stuff. But beyond that...nothing
On January 11 2012 00:06 FunnyPicture wrote: I think maphacking is a great way to "dig into" and start to understand a game. If you don't understand the very basics of a game, maphacking can let you see what your opponent is doing without having to guess his moves. I have hacked in every single multiplayer game I ever played, and will continue to do so.
Can I smack you over the internet? That is yet another terrible excuse. There are far too many legitimate ways to gain this knowledge without cheating for this to be a viable way of getting better at the game. Some games, like SC2, would be more trouble to "hack" than to play legit and watch the replay afterwards.
On January 11 2012 00:43 Capped wrote: Sm3agol be careful with ur words..
Dont bother replying to people saying things like that anyway, chances are they are just looking for a rise from people.
Hackers = what i said in the OP simple as.
Dont get this thread closed, its interesting :D
Ehh, they'll never get a rise out of me in an actual game. Probably because I like playing games where hacks do you little good if you are a terrible player. My fondest memory of a hacker was beating a TERRIBLE hacking player in a QL duel. He had auto-aim hack, but that does very little good in QL duels, because even a 100% accurate mg takes forever to kill a 150/200 stacked guy blowing around the map at 200 mph with all weapons. He left the game, raging, calling me a cheater, and saying I was going to get banned, and that he was hacking "to find the cheaters", lol. He was so cute running around lost on ztn without even attempting to strafe jump.
Off-topic: stop making polls with such specific questions. Yes I have hacked before when I was younger, way more than once or twice. Instead of being specific, you could just have easily worded the options as "I have", "Never", and "I do."
On-topic: If you haven't cheated then you're missing a dynamic that you will never understand without cheating. In fact, I cheated in Source for a short period of time and afterwards felt I understood the game and playstyles much better than ever before. I doubt the same would be true in RTS, however.
Never really any "hacks" but I abused some fun glitches in vanilla WoW when I still played that! Some of my favorites:
Best friend played a mage and we discovered that you could cast blink though some instance portals and rather than entering them, you'd end up on the other side and sometimes fall out of the world.
If you walked alllll the way around the Ruins of Lordaeron (the area on top of Undercity) from the outside, we discovered that there was a corner between a cliff wall and the castle wall that, when ran into and repeatedly jumped at, would allow you to climb to the otherwise un-accessible roof of the castle, which was extremely glitchy and had many holes in it; at some points you could jump down into Undercity, falling straight through the ceiling!
I played a Warlock, so once my friend and I reached level 40 and both had mounts (that's right; in my day we didn't get mounts at level 20, you whippersnappers,) we were able to initiate a duel just outside of the Ruins of Lordaeron (duels couldn't be started inside,) both hop on our mounts and ride into a specific part of the ruins, fighting the timer on the duel clock so that it wouldn't end before we got there, and then my friend would run into a wall while I cast fear on his character; it would force the character to run through the wall and end up in an untextured area presumably inside the wall of the castle. You could then re-enter at one point and the character's legs would appear sunk into the ground up to his or her knees!
We were young at the time and thought to abuse the system; we charged people gold for "magic tricks," i.e., the right to watch us abuse these glitches, or for an increased fee, to have us teach them to them instead
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