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http://keepthewebopen.com/sopa
Darkong
Profile Joined February 2010
United Kingdom418 Posts
January 16 2012 14:29 GMT
#1741
Look like SOPA is on the shelf, for now at least:

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/political-animal/2012_01/putting_sopa_on_a_shelf034765.php

House Oversight Chairman Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) said early Saturday morning that Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-Va.) promised him the House will not vote on the controversial Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA) unless there is consensus on the bill.

“While I remain concerned about Senate action on the Protect IP Act, I am confident that flawed legislation will not be taken up by this House,” Issa said in a statement. “Majority Leader Cantor has assured me that we will continue to work to address outstanding concerns and work to build consensus prior to any anti-piracy legislation coming before the House for a vote.”


Whether or no it will return in another format we'll have to wait and see.

Hopefully there'll be a bit more focus on the OPEN bill now, which seems a lot more sensible than this clusterfuck has been.
Trolling the Battle.Net forums, the most fun you can have with your pants on.
Candadar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
2049 Posts
January 16 2012 17:14 GMT
#1742
On January 16 2012 23:29 Darkong wrote:
Look like SOPA is on the shelf, for now at least:

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/political-animal/2012_01/putting_sopa_on_a_shelf034765.php

Show nested quote +
House Oversight Chairman Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) said early Saturday morning that Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-Va.) promised him the House will not vote on the controversial Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA) unless there is consensus on the bill.

“While I remain concerned about Senate action on the Protect IP Act, I am confident that flawed legislation will not be taken up by this House,” Issa said in a statement. “Majority Leader Cantor has assured me that we will continue to work to address outstanding concerns and work to build consensus prior to any anti-piracy legislation coming before the House for a vote.”


Whether or no it will return in another format we'll have to wait and see.

Hopefully there'll be a bit more focus on the OPEN bill now, which seems a lot more sensible than this clusterfuck has been.


What about PIPA?
aksfjh
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4853 Posts
January 16 2012 17:18 GMT
#1743
On January 17 2012 02:14 Candadar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2012 23:29 Darkong wrote:
Look like SOPA is on the shelf, for now at least:

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/political-animal/2012_01/putting_sopa_on_a_shelf034765.php

House Oversight Chairman Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) said early Saturday morning that Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-Va.) promised him the House will not vote on the controversial Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA) unless there is consensus on the bill.

“While I remain concerned about Senate action on the Protect IP Act, I am confident that flawed legislation will not be taken up by this House,” Issa said in a statement. “Majority Leader Cantor has assured me that we will continue to work to address outstanding concerns and work to build consensus prior to any anti-piracy legislation coming before the House for a vote.”


Whether or no it will return in another format we'll have to wait and see.

Hopefully there'll be a bit more focus on the OPEN bill now, which seems a lot more sensible than this clusterfuck has been.


What about PIPA?

If SOPA or PIPA effectively gets shelved, the other will follow suit.
THE_DOMINATOR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States309 Posts
January 16 2012 17:44 GMT
#1744
PIPA is still alive! keep fighting!
DOMINATION
cjin
Profile Joined July 2011
181 Posts
January 16 2012 17:46 GMT
#1745
http://www.darklegacycomics.com/322.html
radiatoren
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Denmark1907 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-16 19:40:21
January 16 2012 19:37 GMT
#1746
On January 16 2012 11:01 forgottendreams wrote:
Sigh... Rupert Murdoch again lol http://news.cnet.com/8301-31001_3-57359403-261/who-is-winning-sopa-read-rupe-murdochs-twitter-feed/?tag=cnetRiver

Wish he'd just retire altogether or die, he's way past his prime or understanding on this one.


This guy is so far from having any contact with reality. He is truely unbelieveable. I do not even wanna call him insane, since it would be a prerogative for insane people to be called Rupert Murdoch!

Google has settled an enormous amount of cases with rightholders. Guess that is what he is shooting at. However since they have paid their way out of the lawsuits they are not pirates.

To me the bigger problem in this case is a person from the old media pushing for restrictons on new media.
He seems to think that stealing the printing press from competitiors is the way to move forward, which any reasonable journalist will deny.

The US have commited to ACTA and therefore have to pass a copyrigth protection act of some sort. It seems that the big business is pushing for the most extreme measures they could think about and push all they can to get it through. They are appearently completely ignoring the alternative open law.
Repeat before me
Ryndika
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1489 Posts
January 16 2012 20:45 GMT
#1747
If they manage to block all sites with free music and also stop 90% of private copyrigted downloading, I can imagine how much of pirated material will get sold, just like in old days.

I know people who are going to prepare with terabytes worth of music and movies. Then you just sell it for halfprice since everyone who wants culture has to buy from you or big corporation/full price.

Glad to see SOPA going down, but I'm concerned about PIPA and ACTA. Would be nice to see updates on these if there is any?
as useful as teasalt
forgottendreams
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1771 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-16 21:40:12
January 16 2012 21:28 GMT
#1748
On January 17 2012 05:45 Ryndika wrote: Glad to see SOPA going down, but I'm concerned about PIPA and ACTA. Would be nice to see updates on these if there is any?


Well PIPA is sort of tied to SOPA and will receive some downgrading too but I too am a little confused on its status. As for ACTA here are two discussions largely in regard to the United States, but it's important to remember ACTA would have a different effect on the EU, and a more binding one for sure.

http://www.publicknowledge.org/pks-public-comments-acta-submitted-ustr

http://www.auilr.org/pdf/26/26.3.10.pdf

TL;DR IMO the articles seem to suggest ACTA is too broad and vague for any short term significance, and may even run into serious long term problems because of USTR and because it is not a self-executing treaty. In effect ACTA is a large umbrella fabric of law that has a long-term and President by President basis, as in different President's can speed up or delay the abilities of ACTA, which makes sense because SOPA/PIPA serve to act as fillers and more immediate action in regards to digital property rights. In another words ACTA just isn't quite enough and is more targeting piracy overseas then domestically, but the enforceability of such a treaty depends on the executive branches willingness of each country to actually pursue it, and even then, the executive branch of each country may seriously challenged or hindered on its ACTA prerogatives. (God I have too much time on my hands, I need a job while I wait to enter my next semester )
ohsea.toc
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Australia344 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-17 01:23:46
January 17 2012 01:19 GMT
#1749
Not sure if this has been discussed yet :

http://techcrunch.com/2012/01/16/wikipedia-blackout/

Clip, clop, Camelot.
Candadar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
2049 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-17 14:10:52
January 17 2012 14:10 GMT
#1750
God, I'm getting so frustrated over all the people who support SOPA and know nothing about it.

"BUT IT STOPS PIRACY AND IT SAVES MILLIONS OF AMERICAN JOBS AND BILLIONS OF US DOLLARS EVERY YEAR!"

God fucking damnit.

Why do these people not educate themselves.
NationInArms
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1553 Posts
January 18 2012 03:08 GMT
#1751
I don't know if this has been posted yet, but post this as your facebook profile picture!

[image loading]
BW for life | Fantasy, MMA, SlayerS_Boxer | Taengoo! n_n | "Lelouch vi Britannia commands you! Obey me, subjects! OBEY ME, WORLD!" | <3 Emi
Hattori_Hanzo
Profile Joined October 2010
Singapore1229 Posts
January 18 2012 06:08 GMT
#1752
Use this image. I made it via GIMP.
The bitly links to a Guardian article which sums up the vested interests as well.
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http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/1006/stopsopa.jpg
Cauterize the area
BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5217 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-18 06:33:31
January 18 2012 06:27 GMT
#1753
Nevermind.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15679 Posts
January 18 2012 06:29 GMT
#1754
Google is doing exactly what they should!

Everyone sign their petition!
aksfjh
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4853 Posts
January 18 2012 07:49 GMT
#1755
Haven't seen this posted yet.

http://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/summary.php?cid=N00001811&cycle=2012

I'm sure nobody is surprised, but the obviousness of the connection is rather appalling.
LastDance
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
New Zealand510 Posts
January 18 2012 07:56 GMT
#1756
wow Wikipedia has actually Blacked out to raise awareness. Props to them. support them by tweeting and facebooking their page!
LRM)TechnicS
Profile Joined May 2008
Bulgaria1565 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-18 10:06:35
January 18 2012 09:58 GMT
#1757
I guess it has already been posted this here but anyway

http://fightforthefuture.org/pipa/

gogogo write to the Congress
Enjoy the game
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
January 18 2012 10:59 GMT
#1758
The fact that we have to put so much effort into stopping them from doing something fucking idiotic rather than giving them support to do something productive hurts my imaginary soul.
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8068 Posts
January 18 2012 12:41 GMT
#1759
A link to this video just landed in my inbox today:



It basically stated that we should screw over E3 to send a message to ESA.
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
January 18 2012 12:49 GMT
#1760
SOPA has not been shelved. Its going to be discussed again in Feburary.

http://judiciary.house.gov/news/01172012.html
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