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Honeybadger
Profile Joined August 2010
United States821 Posts
December 17 2011 19:38 GMT
#1201
On December 18 2011 03:50 Roggay wrote:
Switzerland works very well, stop making stuff up.


Maybe in switzerland, but in California, direct democracy has bankrupted the state.

Direct democracy is just as bad. It operates on the notion that its population is educated, responsible, and well informed (Which us Americans are, on the whole, not even close to achieving)
"I like to tape my thumbs to my hands to see what it would be like to be a dinosaur."
OVERTsc2
Profile Joined September 2011
United States25 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-17 19:45:41
December 17 2011 19:45 GMT
#1202
On December 18 2011 04:36 Greentellon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2011 04:32 OVERTsc2 wrote:
What's wrong with the government just doing what it wants whenever it wants? I mean, as long as it's giving us all lots of money and providing essential services and keeping those greedy capitalists in line what would the problem be with a totalitarian state?


Your opinion is wrong. Wait for the arrival of moral squad. You will be transported to a correctional facility where you will be held until further notice.


Who are you to say the moral squad shouldn't do that? Are you so brash as to assume you have the moral answers?
McKTenor13
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1383 Posts
December 17 2011 19:45 GMT
#1203
I just emailed my senators and congressman. I don't think my few emails will make a difference. What I do believe is that everyone together sending emails will really make them think and do something about it. Here's to hoping for the best!
If you can chill. chill. - Liquid'Tyler
sh4w
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States713 Posts
December 17 2011 19:53 GMT
#1204
Woww.
BIG thanks to TotalBiscuit for the video <3
I want to go back to being weird. I like being weird. Weird is all I've got. That and my sweet style.
TheRPGAddict
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1403 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-17 20:08:08
December 17 2011 20:01 GMT
#1205
How far is it in Congress yet? I think alot of people don't know how rigorous it is for a bill to actually become a law. Last time I read, it hasn't even gotten through the House committees yet, let alone the Senate and even then let alone the joint committee. Then it has to get through the President's desk and the Supreme Court can kill it with judicial review.
razy
Profile Joined February 2010
Russian Federation899 Posts
December 17 2011 20:02 GMT
#1206
On December 18 2011 04:36 Greentellon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2011 04:32 OVERTsc2 wrote:
What's wrong with the government just doing what it wants whenever it wants? I mean, as long as it's giving us all lots of money and providing essential services and keeping those greedy capitalists in line what would the problem be with a totalitarian state?


Your opinion is wrong. Wait for the arrival of moral squad. You will be transported to a correctional facility where you will be held until further notice.


the level of sarcasm just went through the top of Everest
Dryzt
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada118 Posts
December 17 2011 20:03 GMT
#1207
On December 18 2011 02:04 KeksX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2011 01:53 Coutcha wrote:



Total Biscuit xD

really scary shit -_-

make me hate america...

I think you can say that this time the senate/house is not representing the u.s.a(wtf america is a continent!) here. I don't believe that for example IdrA would support this bill.



im sure the American people also wanted nothing to do with the patriot act or NCAA. So you have two bills i just mentioned which allow indefinite detainment of American citizens with no rights and all that has to be done is they have to be labeled a witch (terrorist), NCAA will allow the military to do this job on american soil. Then we have Sopa/Pipa that will effectively censor the internet, which i am pretty sure is its actual goal. Shit in America is getting extremely scary and the people have to realize that a framework is being set up. If all of these pass you have in effect a legalized martial law state. If you think this is crazy talk and the US wont do this you should check out one of the early uses of the Patriot Act:

In 2004 CIA Asset Susan Lindauer was detained under the patriot act for 5 years and she was supposed to be buried forever under it if it wasn't for union radio and support for her case. She was not allowed hearing or trial.

Why was she detained? She was going to tell the public that the CIA knew since April 2001 that 911 was going to happen and in July they even knew what the targets were, She said that is all the CIA talked about 6 months leading up to 911. She has far more damning evidence that she has revealed but here is a clear example of the abuse of the Patriot act. With Sopa everything that she is talking about right now could easily be censored.
all your Zerg are belong to us
Dryzt
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada118 Posts
December 17 2011 20:11 GMT
#1208
On December 18 2011 04:45 OVERTsc2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2011 04:36 Greentellon wrote:
On December 18 2011 04:32 OVERTsc2 wrote:
What's wrong with the government just doing what it wants whenever it wants? I mean, as long as it's giving us all lots of money and providing essential services and keeping those greedy capitalists in line what would the problem be with a totalitarian state?


Your opinion is wrong. Wait for the arrival of moral squad. You will be transported to a correctional facility where you will be held until further notice.


Who are you to say the moral squad shouldn't do that? Are you so brash as to assume you have the moral answers?


you assume the government has your best interests at heart. Unless you are part of the elite 1% you would be wrong. surely all the job losses, foreclosures, and general loss of wealth to the majority of citizens all while massive banks are being bailed out should be a pretty big clue.

all your Zerg are belong to us
Deleted User 124618
Profile Joined November 2010
1142 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-17 20:14:12
December 17 2011 20:11 GMT
#1209
On December 18 2011 04:45 OVERTsc2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2011 04:36 Greentellon wrote:
On December 18 2011 04:32 OVERTsc2 wrote:
What's wrong with the government just doing what it wants whenever it wants? I mean, as long as it's giving us all lots of money and providing essential services and keeping those greedy capitalists in line what would the problem be with a totalitarian state?


Your opinion is wrong. Wait for the arrival of moral squad. You will be transported to a correctional facility where you will be held until further notice.


Who are you to say the moral squad shouldn't do that? Are you so brash as to assume you have the moral answers?


*edit*

Because freedom of speech is a freedom that I hold very dear.
forgottendreams
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1771 Posts
December 17 2011 20:12 GMT
#1210
I find it disturbing how much coverage this has gotten but yet ACTA has gotten nowhere near the same treatment. It's similar in scope to SOPA and has global consequences.
jchan
Profile Joined November 2010
40 Posts
December 17 2011 20:22 GMT
#1211
We need to remind everyone and our government that we are a REPUBLIC government. if you dont believe rehearse the second line of the pledge of allegiance. in a republic government there are just flat out certain things you cannot vote/debate on and those are your rights. anything infringing upon any of your rights is deemed, you guessed it! UNCONSTITUTIONAL
Angel_
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1617 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-17 20:24:43
December 17 2011 20:24 GMT
#1212
I don't even know how i feel about SOPA anymore other than just truly depressed. I'd be outraged, offended...but frankly I'm not surprised in the least; It's expected from my idiot government.

I hope at the least google/youtube/etc...can at least somehow become international organizations, or move their home to canada or something so they can still function if the US closes them. i dont know. it's just really frustrating to have a situation and know it's terrible and wrong and you can't actually do anything about it. that's effective that is. inb4 petition letter call etc. done done and done again and keeping doing. but it's not listened to in our country. meh. =\ must find something to snuggle.

i hope it goes to the supreme court and is ruled unconstitutional.
jchan
Profile Joined November 2010
40 Posts
December 17 2011 20:42 GMT
#1213
If totalbiscuit, whos not from America, is caring about OUR laws then I think the big names of eSports need to start caring too. I've been messaging Destiny, HD, Husky, ect., and trying to get them to help inform people because they have big channels with many viewers and they are a voice that people will actually listen to. Let's try to get their attention because they too, have a big part in the internet who can help convince the ill and uninformed to oppose and if need to, rebel against this.
dark0dave
Profile Joined November 2010
179 Posts
December 17 2011 21:01 GMT
#1214
They have too many powers already and now this? Makes me very sad, because they will abuse this to the utmost just to try and get people to buy their medium. These corperations are holding on to a dieing medium, dont let them kill the last place where free speach and radical ideas can be spread.
What is dead may never die. BW forever.
Xarik
Profile Joined March 2011
United States19 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-17 22:01:39
December 17 2011 21:30 GMT
#1215
Skimmed through last few pages; didn't see what I just read, which almost made me cry tears of joy.
Open Letter From Internet Engineers

Edit: Maybe I didn't read far enough back through this post, maybe I'm a little slower than others at finding this. Article I linked is from the 15th, still the best thing I've seen regarding this matter. /hope
It is better to say nothing and appear stupid, than open your mouth and remove all doubt.
llKenZyll
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States853 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-17 22:41:08
December 17 2011 22:30 GMT
#1216
So yeah what are the chances of this actually happening? Seems no one is supporting it besides the government.

BTW not sure if this has been posted but i fucking LOVE anonymous
http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/regions/americas/united-states/111216/anonymous-hackers-sopa-vote-congress
http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/nd6nd/tang_in_his_natural_habitat/
FluffyBinLaden
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States527 Posts
December 17 2011 23:12 GMT
#1217
I hope to God above that the fact that prominent figures like TotalBiscuit know about this will open the somewhat hidden issue to at least our community. From there we can spread it elsewhere.
Riddles in the Dark. Answers in the Light.
jchan
Profile Joined November 2010
40 Posts
December 17 2011 23:15 GMT
#1218
Let's ball up and A-Move to oppose this bill. Let it be known that we have a whole section of eSports in the community coming together against SOPA. im posting in shoryuken forums too about this.

Join the event and invite everyone: https://www.facebook.com/#!/events/310481975653415/
Join this group too: https://www.facebook.com/#!/groups/144364919005747/

Honeybadger
Profile Joined August 2010
United States821 Posts
December 17 2011 23:19 GMT
#1219
I'm a little amazed that Day9 and the yogscast haven't gotten behind the initiative to kill this bill. Together, those two groups could educate MILLIONS.
"I like to tape my thumbs to my hands to see what it would be like to be a dinosaur."
jchan
Profile Joined November 2010
40 Posts
December 17 2011 23:24 GMT
#1220
Day9, husky, hd, joshy, psy all video game casters have such HUGE voices on the internet can bring us all together. Just need to actually see our cry for help
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