EPTTechnically, because it circumvents due process, wouldn't (shouldn't?) the supreme court strike it down? I realize they can't just arbitrarily strike stuff down and that there is a process, but I would still expect the supreme court system to take one look at it and say "lol, no."
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WTFZerg
United States704 Posts
Technically, because it circumvents due process, wouldn't (shouldn't?) the supreme court strike it down? I realize they can't just arbitrarily strike stuff down and that there is a process, but I would still expect the supreme court system to take one look at it and say "lol, no." | ||
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Karok
Netherlands142 Posts
Time to go underground and get half the 75% of the worlds internet traffic heavily encrypted, regardless of "legality". In related new: (sorry for the dutch) : http://tweakers.net/nieuws/78841/universal-wij-kunnen-andermans-videos-van-youtube-halen.html tldr: Universal lawyers think its totally cool to remove YouTube videos to which they do not have a single copyright to in any way. You can film your pet hamster, put it on Youtube without music and Universal can take it down. Note that this is still pre-sopa and acta! the worst is yet to come... | ||
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HuntrxHisoka
United States1 Post
+ Show Spoiler + Dear Friend: Thank you for contacting me regarding S. 968, the PROTECT IP Act. I welcome your thoughts and comments. Senator Patrick Leahy (D-VT) introduced the PROTECT IP Act on May 12, 2011. The legislation is in response to concerns about online copyright infringement and sale of counterfeit goods. The bill would allow the Justice Department to seek federal court injunctions to halt online promotion of illegal activities. I believe copyright protection is a foundation for innovation. Intellectual property is the creative core of the information age. Patent and intellectual property ownership laws offer needed protection for the economic and other interests of inventors, entrepreneurs, performers, and other creative thinkers. These protections are also important to future growth and employment in important U.S. industries. Protecting intellectual property is more challenging than ever before. Among other things, high speed broadband enables access to the entire catalog of movies, music, books, television, and technology. Online promotion of counterfeit goods by foreign entities is also a growing concern. How to protect copyright, patent, and intellectual property rights — and do so without infringing on consumers’ legitimate interests — requires dealing with a complex series of problems. The PROTECT IP Act has been referred to the Senate Judiciary Committee. Although I am not a member of that committee, please be assured that I will keep your views in mind should this bill or related legislation be reported for action by the full Senate. I appreciate hearing from you, and I hope that you will not hesitate to contact me on any issue that is important to you. Sincerely, Kay Bailey Hutchison United States Senator I urge everyone to writer there congressmen and senators. Also, post there responses so that it will be in the public eye. | ||
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BlackJack
United States10495 Posts
On December 17 2011 08:54 Karok wrote: Apperantly the ACTA has got the green light from the representatives in Europe. Time to go underground and get half the 75% of the worlds internet traffic heavily encrypted, regardless of "legality". In related new: (sorry for the dutch) : http://tweakers.net/nieuws/78841/universal-wij-kunnen-andermans-videos-van-youtube-halen.html tldr: Universal lawyers think its totally cool to remove YouTube videos to which they do not have a single copyright to in any way. You can film your pet hamster, put it on Youtube without music and Universal can take it down. Note that this is still pre-sopa and acta! the worst is yet to come... That has nothing to do with the law and it has everything to do with youtube giving Universal the privilege to take down videos and Universal subsequently abusing that privilege. | ||
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Karok
Netherlands142 Posts
Everyone with some tech knowledge will go underground and help family and friends to get underground as well. Websites like Wikipedia and many other "public domain" sites might get totally banned for .. well lets face it, just about anything that doesn't bring in heaps of cash for themselves. | ||
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firehand101
Australia3152 Posts
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Vain
Netherlands1115 Posts
What will happen then is that over a year of over a couple of years there will come a bill that will do the same but will be worded differently. At that time nobody is really protesting anymore and it will follow trough. You could argue this is a very cynical approach to the system right now but it has happened before and could happen again | ||
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BreakerD
United States159 Posts
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Keyboard Warrior
United States1178 Posts
On December 17 2011 13:45 BreakerD wrote: Not to be fucked up but..............signing petition wont do shit. When was the last time the Federal Government actually did something for the people? The federal government was suppose to be for the people and by the people. All we got right now is blah blah blah blah from the government. They have more important issues than the internet dont know wtf they are worrying about crap like this for. What should we do then? This will erally be sad if they push through with it! | ||
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Cirn9
1117 Posts
On December 17 2011 13:45 BreakerD wrote: Not to be fucked up but..............signing petition wont do shit. When was the last time the Federal Government actually did something for the people? The federal government was suppose to be for the people and by the people. All we got right now is blah blah blah blah from the government. They have more important issues than the internet dont know wtf they are worrying about crap like this for. On this note: I think the US should spend more on education | ||
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NGeX
Canada72 Posts
On November 16 2011 00:27 nennx wrote: didn't obama say this was an instant veto if it came to him, or was that another similar bill? He promised to veto a bill that said "Those who are suspected of being a terrorist can be detained and held without trial." He broke that promise and it passed. Now protesters are considered "low-level terrorists". Freedom of speech is ending my dear friends. Enjoy it while you can. | ||
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JohnnyBanana
Canada493 Posts
Or use the link in the OP and send your rep a letter in 2-3min. Fuck Twitter/emails. Contact them directly or send a letter. Come on Americans, the whole world is counting on you. I highly doubt Obama is going to veto. He promised to veto NDAA, but didn't. And just today he promised to veto any Keystone pipeline project, and looks like he went soft there too. | ||
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Vain
Netherlands1115 Posts
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Zooper31
United States5710 Posts
On December 17 2011 14:17 Cirn9 wrote: On this note: I think the US should spend more on education Honestly we alrdy spend way more than other countries on education yet we're like on the bottom rung of the ladder when it comes to education. Obviously more money isn't going to solve the problem. OT though I'll be watching this closely to see if it passes or not and what the news actually covers of it if anything. | ||
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Aterons_toss
Romania1275 Posts
On December 17 2011 19:59 Vain wrote: And as we speak the european union already pushed trough the ACTA-treaty. Fuck Yeah ACTA, eu what o.o ? wot is this ? can't find anything about it in the last page/op -_- They were trying to enforce a similar law in EU or is it just EU "accepting" the fact that USA can censor its websites ? Edit: Nvm saw the post about it, im stupid | ||
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Cirn9
1117 Posts
On December 17 2011 03:42 Zalithian wrote: I still can't wrap my head around this quote from wired.com. "Smith’s measure, as amended, also clarifies that sites ending in .com, .org and .net are not covered by the bill. Only foreign sites fall under the revised SOPA’s wrath." Do not understand. It's a hilarious measure attempt to separate the current copyright litigation currently allowed on US soil. It also means that the pirate bay can easily circumvent the bill. No bitgamer(.su) demonoid(.me) nyaa(.eu) eztv(.it)? ): | ||
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Scribble
2077 Posts
Ugh. Sneaky bullshit. | ||
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Deleted User 124618
1142 Posts
On December 17 2011 19:59 Vain wrote: And as we speak the european union already pushed trough the ACTA-treaty. Fuck Yeah Source? Because I can't find one. I'm calling bullshit. | ||
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Josh_rakoons
United Kingdom1158 Posts
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ZeromuS
Canada13389 Posts
On December 17 2011 14:18 Nadeslos wrote: He promised to veto a bill that said "Those who are suspected of being a terrorist can be detained and held without trial." He broke that promise and it passed. Now protesters are considered "low-level terrorists". Freedom of speech is ending my dear friends. Enjoy it while you can. To be fair the veto is only so strong and i believe there are rules where in a veto from the pres won't change anything. I don't know the particulars but this might have been what happened. Either way if the decisions comes down to being split I hope obama vetoes it. While we don't like to admit it the US basically has a strong impact on the laws of other countries who model themselves on the US. | ||
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