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Hittomogasin
Profile Joined September 2011
Finland80 Posts
December 17 2011 23:35 GMT
#1221
I wish there was more good news coming from america instead of this twisted shit...
Trolling: mental illness or acceptable social phenomena?
Archontas
Profile Joined September 2010
United States319 Posts
December 18 2011 00:24 GMT
#1222
My message to my Congressional representative:

The bill "PROTECT IP (S. 968)/SOPA (HR. 3261)" is, in my opinion, a very poorly worded bill giving the government exceedingly broad powers of Internet censorship without notice or proper judicial review, as well as impacting the technical foundation of interconnection that the Internet is based on. Such a bill stifles free speech and innovation, which are the true resources that our country is based on.

While I understand the ongoing need to seek intelligent and effective legislation against copyright and trademark infringement, this bill is a horrible approach to the problem, and I hope yours will be one the voices against it.
If you ban me, I will become more powerful than you can possibly imagine.
LastDance
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
New Zealand510 Posts
December 18 2011 00:28 GMT
#1223
TotalBiscuit did a very informative video on this subject:
DannyJ
Profile Joined March 2010
United States5110 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-18 01:10:20
December 18 2011 01:10 GMT
#1224
aaaaand that's why congress has a 13% approval rating.
urasyupi2
Profile Joined August 2011
United States810 Posts
December 18 2011 01:16 GMT
#1225
I honestly have to wonder what goes through Congress's heads sometimes. This is just fucking retarded.
hemeh
Ben...
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3485 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-18 01:50:06
December 18 2011 01:45 GMT
#1226
On December 18 2011 10:16 urasyupi2 wrote:
I honestly have to wonder what goes through Congress's heads sometimes. This is just fucking retarded.
Here's what goes through most of their heads:


"Cliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiide" -Tastosis
Starparty
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Sweden1963 Posts
December 18 2011 01:46 GMT
#1227
ironically "sopa" means trash in swedish
The artist formerly known as Starparty
firehand101
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3152 Posts
December 18 2011 01:59 GMT
#1228
I hate to say it but, i actually dont think we can stop this. When you think about it, what are we trying to prevent? We are trying to allow illegal products to be downloaded, and the government will obviously not let this happen. It is just wierd for us since we are accustomed to it, but at the end of the day it is illegal, and i dont think the government has a choice. What do you think they will do, prevent illegal actions or let you watch your movies for free?

it sucks i know, but what can they do?
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Kar98
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia924 Posts
December 18 2011 02:00 GMT
#1229
On December 18 2011 08:24 jchan wrote:
Day9, husky, hd, joshy, psy all video game casters have such HUGE voices on the internet can bring us all together. Just need to actually see our cry for help

Except they would educate about 0.1% of the voters leaving the other 99% to make up thier own minds
SoLaR[i.C]
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
United States2969 Posts
December 18 2011 02:27 GMT
#1230
It's unfortunate that the concepts of personal and intellectual property still elude some countries.

Imagine if mass theft were actually reprimanded and a person's right to a livelihood respected. Legislation like this wouldn't even need to be considered and torrent sites could simply be shut down. What a fanciful idea!
WarChimp
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Australia943 Posts
December 18 2011 02:35 GMT
#1231
On December 18 2011 10:59 firehand101 wrote:
I hate to say it but, i actually dont think we can stop this. When you think about it, what are we trying to prevent? We are trying to allow illegal products to be downloaded, and the government will obviously not let this happen. It is just wierd for us since we are accustomed to it, but at the end of the day it is illegal, and i dont think the government has a choice. What do you think they will do, prevent illegal actions or let you watch your movies for free?

it sucks i know, but what can they do?


The thing is, this bill affects the non-tech savvy people. It won't stop piracy at all and those who actually know how to use the internet will not be that hindered. This bill affects the average every day user who just wants to jump online and look at youtube or their facebook.
HellRoxYa
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden1614 Posts
December 18 2011 03:20 GMT
#1232
On December 18 2011 10:59 firehand101 wrote:
I hate to say it but, i actually dont think we can stop this. When you think about it, what are we trying to prevent? We are trying to allow illegal products to be downloaded, and the government will obviously not let this happen. It is just wierd for us since we are accustomed to it, but at the end of the day it is illegal, and i dont think the government has a choice. What do you think they will do, prevent illegal actions or let you watch your movies for free?

it sucks i know, but what can they do?


You realize the government says what is legal and was isn't right? That something is illegal doesn't mean either that it is right or that legislation must be passed to make it enforceable. In itself it is a very, very poor argument for legislation.
Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
December 18 2011 03:20 GMT
#1233
On December 18 2011 10:59 firehand101 wrote:
I hate to say it but, i actually dont think we can stop this. When you think about it, what are we trying to prevent? We are trying to allow illegal products to be downloaded, and the government will obviously not let this happen. It is just wierd for us since we are accustomed to it, but at the end of the day it is illegal, and i dont think the government has a choice. What do you think they will do, prevent illegal actions or let you watch your movies for free?

it sucks i know, but what can they do?

we can stop this mess and replace it by another version of a new "anti-piracy" law that respects due process, offers no or almost no room for being abused for censorship and that does not harm or threaten legal internet business.
"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
jchan
Profile Joined November 2010
40 Posts
December 18 2011 03:28 GMT
#1234
On December 18 2011 11:00 Kar98 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2011 08:24 jchan wrote:
Day9, husky, hd, joshy, psy all video game casters have such HUGE voices on the internet can bring us all together. Just need to actually see our cry for help

Except they would educate about 0.1% of the voters leaving the other 99% to make up thier own minds


even if its .1% its .1% more than what we have now. it all starts with one person to wake up. Take a look at Ron Paul
Ben...
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3485 Posts
December 18 2011 04:01 GMT
#1235
On December 18 2011 12:20 Black Gun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2011 10:59 firehand101 wrote:
I hate to say it but, i actually dont think we can stop this. When you think about it, what are we trying to prevent? We are trying to allow illegal products to be downloaded, and the government will obviously not let this happen. It is just wierd for us since we are accustomed to it, but at the end of the day it is illegal, and i dont think the government has a choice. What do you think they will do, prevent illegal actions or let you watch your movies for free?

it sucks i know, but what can they do?

we can stop this mess and replace it by another version of a new "anti-piracy" law that respects due process, offers no or almost no room for being abused for censorship and that does not harm or threaten legal internet business.
That's what the people on the committee looking at this bill are trying to get, but sadly the silent people just shut down every effort they make to make the bill remotely fair and not heavily in favour of one side.
"Cliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiide" -Tastosis
Zinroc
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada73 Posts
December 18 2011 06:11 GMT
#1236
Lets not forget this and NEVER buy another EA game again.

Scribble
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
2077 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-18 06:37:35
December 18 2011 06:36 GMT
#1237
On December 18 2011 15:11 Zinroc wrote:
Lets not forget this and NEVER buy another EA game again.



While I like the idea of a mass boycott, you can't just cherry pick the companies that you already dislike. That accomplishes nothing. It sends no message because it's easy to deprive yourself of something you don't want.

Can you, and anyone else entertaining this idea, refuse to buy another movie, CD, or song on iTunes because the RIAA and MPAA support this bill?

Will you never buy Windows, games published by Microsoft, or MS software because MS supports this bill?

Will you never buy a Wii, a PS3, or a 360 because Nintendo, Sony, and Microsoft support this bill?

Will you never buy a Ford? Will you never tune into the MLB or go to a baseball game in the US? Will you never watch the NBA or go to a basketball game? What about an American Football game?

Will you never watch CBS?

Will you never go see a disney movie or buy a Disney DVD?

Will you cancel your subscription with Comcast if you have them, and never use them if you don't?

Will you never shop at Walmart? Will you never buy Nikes or Adidas? Or greeting cards?

http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-s968/money

Any of the numerous interests and organizations supporting this bill not mentioned above?

I'm not disagreeing with the notion of boycotting, but it's silly and ineffective to only cherrypick who you intend to boycott. If you aren't strong enough to deprive yourself of the things you don't need, your message will be just as weak. This doesn't just go to the person I'm replying to.
isparavanje
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
62 Posts
December 18 2011 07:01 GMT
#1238
I can actually do whatever the fuck I want, and be whatever the fuck I want. Holy shit. I used to have ambitions but they seem to just limit one's potential.
aTnClouD
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Italy2428 Posts
December 18 2011 08:34 GMT
#1239
America, the country of freedom, where the eagles fly. Good job again.
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ExileR
Profile Joined November 2010
United States89 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-18 09:22:49
December 18 2011 09:20 GMT
#1240
Seriously.. I believe that not a lot of people are actually aware of this. Sure it has many, many steps to get through in order to pass, but I think it's better off trying to fight this at this stage early on instead of fighting against it later on and having them say, "well, where were you when we first announced it, didn't seem like much people were against this at the time.. blah blah?" Those congressman seem like the type of people who would do that.

I am making tweets and posts about this trying to get as many people at least aware of what's going on, but most of the time it's without a response or they don't understand or care about what's going on. As of now, I don't think it'll pass because it's such a ridiculous bill to pass that would break our entire community, or at least have us scrambled all over the place for an amount of time. However, with watching the hearings during those 2 days and seeing who some of our lawmakers were, and yes, a lot of them are really old and heartless to me haha. I really think there's actually a chance for this going through because of that alone.

I think it's the casual general public that will be affected the most from this because once it hits, they won't know where to go or what to do. D= I hope people are informing everyone and discussing and taking some sort of action against this. Our freedom is on the line and like Total Biscuit said, they're going to Tactical Nuke our free internet world! O=

Edit: and yeah, I did hear about the 21st being the day they're going resume talks. Kind of disappointed when they said it was postponed until 2012.. Idk what they're doing and why they're really trying to rush this is beyond me. Maybe they're trying to take advantage of every strong person occupying Wallstreet instead of SOPA and they're trying to sneak this bill in while everyone is being caught off guard. That's just my thought though.
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