EPTJudge beats daughter for using the internet - Page 62
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ScrubS
Netherlands436 Posts
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arbitrageur
Australia1202 Posts
On November 03 2011 07:43 Zarak wrote: In my opinion the people that think this is too rough had very easy parents. Most dads with their son if they did something wrong they would beat the shit out of them with their fist. She is just getting a brutal spanking with a belt. I do agree though the language should was very excessive and a dicipline should not be out of hate like it seems like he is feeling it should only be done out of love and for some people it takes a physical beating to get through to them. Not trying to offend anyone here just my personal opinion Sorry if you had disgusting parents but these individuals are sick retards who should be put in jail for child abuse. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15723 Posts
On November 03 2011 07:55 ScrubS wrote: Why would it matter he is a judge? crazy people are everywhere lol He is a judge who deals in matters relating to child abuse. A guy who beats the living shit out of his daughter and psychologically traumatizes her, is probably not the sort of person you want to be a judge. Especially when he is guilty of what he is supposed to be deeming others guilty of... | ||
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epicopter
Canada177 Posts
On November 03 2011 07:55 ScrubS wrote: Why would it matter he is a judge? crazy people are everywhere lol He tries people for Child Abuse cases...... | ||
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Ayaz2810
United States2763 Posts
On November 02 2011 18:47 mskaa wrote: Whats most shocking to me is that corporal punishment is allowed in the US and apparently some parts of Europe as well o.O Man i really think this belongs in the 1960ies.. But telling children that they will go to hell and burn for eternity if they sin based on zero evidence isn't fucked up? I am genuinely confused. People get all shitty about something, but let major issues like generations of brainwashing continue. I understand this thread is about the video, but it seems to me that a lot of the people on here saying spanking is awful are probably, to some degree, the same people who believe in god. | ||
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PetitCrabe
Canada410 Posts
On November 03 2011 07:50 grobo wrote: Are you serious? what kind of uncivilized barbarian country are you coming from where it's considered normal for a father to use his fists to beat the shit out of their son? User was warned for this post Edit: yeeeah my comment was pretty racist if read without my other posts in the thread. Deleting because quite offensive without context | ||
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aderum
Sweden1459 Posts
"oh i got beat and i turned out fined", yeah i didnt get beat and i turned out fine too, which one do you think had it best? I really cant see any reason where grown ups beating childing is okay, even if its their on child. If you cant make you child listen to you, or follow the rules with out beating them, you are just a bad parent. Wow i just... wow.. And also, if you are a parent that is beating you kids, fuck you. | ||
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
Well fuck it's hard to have a rational debate about raiding children, so here's a fancy quote to make up for it. Kids are like farts. You don't mind your own but you can't stand those of other people. | ||
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Capped
United Kingdom7236 Posts
"Its ok to give a child a corrective slap to the ass, but this is something different". I think while people may not agree with that statement, they will agree its not outrageously abusive. Unlike this video, which is sick and twisted as fuck and the man needs to be punished and removed from society, along with everyone else who views this level of beating as "correct" - I dont give a fuck if 80% of china do it, its still wrong. People posting in this thread that its ok need to get their shit together. It is not, remotely ok. If your parents did this to you, they needed to be punished, you should not agree it was the best thing for you. It wasnt. | ||
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SACtheXchng
168 Posts
On November 03 2011 07:58 ayaz2810 wrote: But telling children that they will go to hell and burn for eternity if they sin based on zero evidence isn't fucked up? I am genuinely confused. People get all shitty about something, but let major issues like generations of brainwashing continue. I understand this thread is about the video, but it seems to me that a lot of the people on here saying spanking is awful are probably, to some degree, the same people who believe in god. I'm not believing in any of the invisible men some people believe in. I do believe however that what you describe is as much child abuse as the contents of that clip. | ||
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Egyptian_Head
South Africa508 Posts
On November 03 2011 07:51 Mohdoo wrote: The question as to whether it is ever helpful to hit a child is a question which has been thoroughly answered, by very many different people, with the exact same conclusion: There is never a time where hitting a child will do as good or a better job than non-violent methods. Using pain as a method of scolding or teaching a child is scientifically proven less effective. Its shocking to see some people defend their upbringing when this isn't something remotely controversial. You will never find a scientific paper which concludes it is even equal. Because it really isn't that bad. People generally think there parents made the right call when they grow up. They realize they were at fault and there parents did there job. It's not weird at all that people defend there up bringing. Me personally, my parents sent me to my room until they found out that is exactly what I wanted, I was not allowed in my room during the day. They were rather amused at discovering I misbehaved so I would be sent to my room so I didn't have to play any more sports with the neighborhood kids. They couldn't fathom that I would rather be reading than playing cricket. Physical punishment really is not as bad as a lot of you guys make it out to be, I was hit a few times, you learn your lesson and move on. It really is a non issue. What happened in this case however was not punishment. Although he didn't hit her that much, its more then environment it happen in. | ||
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Cereb
Denmark3388 Posts
 Also I cannot fathom that anyone could actually see this as acceptable in any shape or form? I was really expecting this to be 62 pages of pure disgust towards the judge but apparantly some people actually think anything good can come from physical disciplin? I challenge you people to find me one acknowledged psychology paper that talks about the positive effect physical violence has on kids. Cause I bet you can find 100 saying the opposite.... For the sake of a better future in this world, I hope none of you who approve of this has kids! | ||
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socommaster123
United States578 Posts
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FabledIntegral
United States9232 Posts
On November 03 2011 07:58 PetitCrabe wrote: Any country that doesn't have a majority of white people Japan? | ||
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h41fgod
Sweden377 Posts
On November 03 2011 07:48 aTnClouD wrote: Honestly I don't know if spanking is illegal but afaik you are not allowed to hit your children and something like what happened in the video the OP posted would result into jail. Actually I've never met anyone in my life positive about hitting their own children for teaching purposes. Interesting to hear that from a country that had their first real discussion on child abuse because of this trial in Sweden. Because that is pretty much how media spun it in Sweden (as you can see it is mentioned in the Yahoo article). Media is so freaking terrible. Quotidian. You got this. I leave anything I wanted to say in this thread to you. | ||
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Egyptian_Head
South Africa508 Posts
On November 03 2011 07:58 ayaz2810 wrote: But telling children that they will go to hell and burn for eternity if they sin based on zero evidence isn't fucked up? I am genuinely confused. People get all shitty about something, but let major issues like generations of brainwashing continue. I understand this thread is about the video, but it seems to me that a lot of the people on here saying spanking is awful are probably, to some degree, the same people who believe in god. It is a fair point. I did get fed this as a child but I don't think I ever believed it. Hell was not something I ever worried about despite growing up christian. I would like to think it was the same for others but I am sure some people took the threat seriously. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15723 Posts
On November 03 2011 08:03 Egyptian_Head wrote: Because it really isn't that bad. People generally think there parents made the right call when they grow up. They realize they were at fault and there parents did there job. It's not weird at all that people defend there up bringing. Me personally, my parents sent me to my room until they found out that is exactly what I wanted, I was not allowed in my room during the day. They were rather amused at discovering I misbehaved so I would be sent to my room so I didn't have to play any more sports with the neighborhood kids. They couldn't fathom that I would rather be reading than playing cricket. Physical punishment really is not as bad as a lot of you guys make it out to be, I was hit a few times, you learn your lesson and move on. It really is a non issue. What happened in this case however was not punishment. Although he didn't hit her that much, its more then environment it happen in. The bolded cannot be taken seriously. It is common for children to excuse the rash behavior of parents in a lot more extreme of cases than spankings. And your point of it not being "that bad" is also irrelevant. It is scientifically proven to be an inferior method of parenting. You will never meet a psychologist who says otherwise. Its honestly like saying the world is flat in the world of psychology. Pain/violence in parenting is plain and simply inferior and leaves the possibility of changing the child for the worse, even if only slightly sometimes, it can be much worse other times. Your single case where you can not even objectively view yourself is just silly. And it still neglects the fact that it isn't even debatable. This is a really big issue, of course, as physical punishment is really common in less educated/enlightened societies. There are also bits of it left over from people who just go about parenting the way their parents did. A couple generations ago, it was normal. But because it is such a big deal in the development of people, it has been THOROUGHLY studied. I'm not trying to be rude here. I am just trying to articulate just how transparent this issue is in the field of psychology. | ||
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Kluey
Canada1197 Posts
On November 03 2011 07:50 grobo wrote: Are you serious? what kind of uncivilized barbarian country are you coming from where it's considered normal for a father to use his fists to beat the shit out of their son? You guys are all missing the point. HE'S BEATING HER FOR USING THE INTERNET IN A TIME WHERE THE INTERNET IS THE MAIN SOURCE OF ENTERTAINING. She didn't watch porn or bad mouth anyone. It's not discipline it's abuse of power against his daughter. | ||
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Patate
Canada441 Posts
Those conservatives are the same that think Muslims have a retarded lifestyle.. come on now. | ||
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mderg
Germany1740 Posts
On November 03 2011 08:13 Kluey wrote: You guys are all missing the point. HE'S BEATING HER FOR USING THE INTERNET IN A TIME WHERE THE INTERNET IS THE MAIN SOURCE OF ENTERTAINING. She didn't watch porn or bad mouth anyone. It's not discipline it's abuse of power against his daughter. Watching porn isn´t something you should get beaten up for... | ||
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