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theBALLS
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Singapore2935 Posts
October 27 2011 03:28 GMT
#681
On October 27 2011 12:18 Blasterion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2011 12:17 Zidane wrote:
Maybe you should just accept that many things chinese are retarded, such as shark fin soup as a status symbol, instead of thinking everyone is trying to attack you just because you are chinese.

Because talking shit about the errors of other cultures is all that you foreigners are capable of

oh boy, I think you need a breather bro.

Relax, have a cup of black tea!
If you lose the stick, you'll always have theBALLS.
LanTAs
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1091 Posts
October 27 2011 03:29 GMT
#682
On October 26 2011 18:41 T.O.P. wrote:
It's an example of the majority infringing on the rights of the minority. The law unfairly targets people of Chinese descent by banning one of their cultural traditions.


Bro buy me some shark fin soup before they ban it here in SF plz


On October 27 2011 12:17 Zidane wrote:
Maybe you should just accept that many things chinese are retarded, such as shark fin soup as a status symbol, instead of thinking everyone is trying to attack you just because you are chinese.


.__. yeah, some guys are saying that "these bastards are RACIST!" when all the data points towards that if we really don't want sharks to die out we should stop on farming these lions of the sea.

On October 27 2011 12:17 bearbuddy wrote:
Has anyone ever tried artificial shark fin? I've tasted neither the real one nor the artificial one. I would rather not spend a fortune and I wouldn't want an entire shark to get speared for my curiosity. But I really want to try it, especially since I'm of Chinese descent.


How about, thick clear rice vermicelli? Closest thing you'll ever get to shark fin without artificial shark fin or just shark fin, but its missing that nice texture that shark fins have.
bearbuddy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3442 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-27 03:32:27
October 27 2011 03:30 GMT
#683
On October 27 2011 12:25 theBALLS wrote:
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On October 27 2011 12:17 bearbuddy wrote:
Has anyone ever tried artificial shark fin? I've tasted neither the real one nor the artificial one. I would rather not spend a fortune and I wouldn't want an entire shark to get speared for my curiosity. But I really want to try it, especially since I'm of Chinese descent.

Doesn't compare, buddy :D

Fish maw is often used in place of the real thing. I can definitely tell the difference.

White people, let me tell you; Sharks fin soup is DELICIOUS.

But unsustainable.

:D


Oh darn. Well, that's too bad. Can't satisfy every curiosity in life, I guess. Thanks for the heads up, wouldn't want to spend a mini-fortune on an imitation that doesn't hold a candle to the original.

On October 27 2011 12:29 LanTAs wrote:

How about, thick clear rice vermicelli? Closest thing you'll ever get to shark fin without artificial shark fin or just shark fin, but its missing that nice texture that shark fins have.


O.o that's what it tastes like?
Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
October 27 2011 03:30 GMT
#684
On October 27 2011 12:29 LanTAs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2011 18:41 T.O.P. wrote:
It's an example of the majority infringing on the rights of the minority. The law unfairly targets people of Chinese descent by banning one of their cultural traditions.


Bro buy me some shark fin soup before they ban it here in SF plz


Show nested quote +
On October 27 2011 12:17 Zidane wrote:
Maybe you should just accept that many things chinese are retarded, such as shark fin soup as a status symbol, instead of thinking everyone is trying to attack you just because you are chinese.


.__. yeah, some guys are saying that "these bastards are RACIST!" when all the data points towards that if we really don't want sharks to die out we should stop on farming these lions of the sea.

Show nested quote +
On October 27 2011 12:17 bearbuddy wrote:
Has anyone ever tried artificial shark fin? I've tasted neither the real one nor the artificial one. I would rather not spend a fortune and I wouldn't want an entire shark to get speared for my curiosity. But I really want to try it, especially since I'm of Chinese descent.


How about, thick clear rice vermicelli? Closest thing you'll ever get to shark fin without artificial shark fin or just shark fin, but its missing that nice texture that shark fins have.

Still think Fish Maw is more similar than Rice Vermicelli though. That said Fish Maw soup is hella good
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woobsauce
Profile Joined August 2011
United States491 Posts
October 27 2011 03:31 GMT
#685
On October 26 2011 18:29 wxwx wrote:
Is it not possible to breed sharks? Why not just ban hunting if they really are endangered (which I doubt. Sharks are everywhere). Outlawing sale/consumption seems really radical.

I'm chinese and shark fin is really delicious.


Shark fin does not have a taste. Furthermore, a LOT of shark species are becoming endangered. Shark and apex predators, and having them go endangered would be disastrous for the environment. Futhermore, the practice is beyond inhuman and cruel.
theBALLS
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Singapore2935 Posts
October 27 2011 03:31 GMT
#686
On October 27 2011 12:28 slvcadv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2011 12:17 bearbuddy wrote:
Has anyone ever tried artificial shark fin? I've tasted neither the real one nor the artificial one. I would rather not spend a fortune and I wouldn't want an entire shark to get speared for my curiosity. But I really want to try it, especially since I'm of Chinese descent.


I'm not exactly a gourmand, but IMO they taste pretty much the same (shark fin does not have a discernible taste b/c it's really easily overpowered by other ingredients). There are maybe some small texture differences that's all.

Chinese shark fin soup should just all use artificial shark fins. I'm sure the majority of people won't be able to tell the difference. Chinese people just eat shark fin as a status symbol, kind of like how some people wear furs from rare exotic animals.

Okay even if they taste exactly the same...

There's a reason why people dont ALL use imitation goods. It just doesn't feel right! IMO, its really darn silly to suggest that the solution is for us to all eat artificial sharks fin.

For me, it's not just about the taste, but also the tradition.
If you lose the stick, you'll always have theBALLS.
Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
October 27 2011 03:31 GMT
#687
On October 27 2011 12:18 Blasterion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2011 12:17 Zidane wrote:
Maybe you should just accept that many things chinese are retarded, such as shark fin soup as a status symbol, instead of thinking everyone is trying to attack you just because you are chinese.

Because talking shit about the errors of other cultures is all that you foreigners are capable of


I normally don't post in these threads, and have been able to remain this way throughout the years, but I'm just cringing so hard right now.

I agreed with a lot of your arguments in the Toddler thread; Before you started calling people names and got yourself banned. Now you're really just playing the victim card a bit too hard and counter accusing these "foreigners" picking on the Chinese. Really? Regardless how you look at this, complaining about it isn't going to help your cause. Your posts right now are just getting annoying.
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KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
October 27 2011 03:32 GMT
#688
Sounds sensible enough to me.
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Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
October 27 2011 03:32 GMT
#689
On October 27 2011 12:31 woobsauce wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2011 18:29 wxwx wrote:
Is it not possible to breed sharks? Why not just ban hunting if they really are endangered (which I doubt. Sharks are everywhere). Outlawing sale/consumption seems really radical.

I'm chinese and shark fin is really delicious.


Shark fin does not have a taste. Furthermore, a LOT of shark species are becoming endangered. Shark and apex predators, and having them go endangered would be disastrous for the environment. Futhermore, the practice is beyond inhuman and cruel.

We get it, in order to allow our descendants to have the privilege we have to rein it in, so we don't kill the supply, Keeping it in moderation for the best
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theBALLS
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Singapore2935 Posts
October 27 2011 03:33 GMT
#690
On October 27 2011 12:29 LanTAs wrote:

How about, thick clear rice vermicelli? Closest thing you'll ever get to shark fin without artificial shark fin or just shark fin, but its missing that nice texture that shark fins have.

NO!

NONONONONONONO.

Do not speak any further my white friend.

Hahaha. In all seriousness, NO.

Nonononono.

God no.
If you lose the stick, you'll always have theBALLS.
LanTAs
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1091 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-27 03:34:25
October 27 2011 03:33 GMT
#691
On October 27 2011 12:15 bloken wrote:
If you kill an animal i believe it should be done in a humane way. Not finning the shark and throwing it back into the water. You kill the shark you take the whole thing, use the other meat to feed people too. Finning sharks is a HUGE problem on Australia's Northern Approach border. I remember seeing on 4 corners(a news show) footage of hundreds of sharks in a single day being finned and thrown back into the water, actually in Australian waters. If it's such a huge Chinese cultural thing then they can source it from wherever it's legal. It's such a high price because it's hard to get, which also makes it attractive to small boats and fishers to try and pull off a dangerous opperation. As long as it's done humanely and legally then i don't have a problem.

There are many more issues like this as well. The rhino horn; rhino's being killed just for their horn to feed the asian black market and natural chinese medicines. Tigers penis; Tigers being killed just for their genitals for asian medicines (which don't work/placebo effect).
Obviously these are just examples. I don't mean to single out asian countries but they are just the examples i know of. All in all I don't believe in a lot of the asian medicines. The healing properties of a lot of natural eastern remedies have since been proven to be bollocks.

Back to sharks fin. Humane and Legal


The problem is not just the humane part but the fact that these bigass fishes are being plucked out of the sea at an alarming rate. Its actually pretty hard to make it humane, I mean where can you kill it instantly and/or without it having to feel any pain? Sharks are pretty damn useless to humans once the fins are off, so thats why they just throw them inside the water, where they have a slow and painful death
shawster
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada2485 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-27 03:38:41
October 27 2011 03:34 GMT
#692
good, ban that shit.

the way that shark fins are harvested disgust me. i don't see a problem with them infringing upon the rights of the minority. culture isn't an excuse if it causes that much damage to ecosystems and shark populations. i would ban consumption of any meat or product that is harvested unjustly and harmfully.

it's fucking stupid that people are bringing race into discussion. this has nothing to do with race, retards. this ban is about stopping damage to shark populations and stopping unethical finning of sharks. i understand that it hurts some chinese culture but unfortunately i would say culture is less important than the issue at hand.

if eating a delicacy is more important to you than stopping poaching and dwindling shark populations then you're kind of selfish. cut off indulgence and do some good will ya?

the sad part about this discussion is that if i say i'm 100% chinese then i'll be taken more seriously.
LanTAs
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1091 Posts
October 27 2011 03:35 GMT
#693
On October 27 2011 12:33 theBALLS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2011 12:29 LanTAs wrote:

How about, thick clear rice vermicelli? Closest thing you'll ever get to shark fin without artificial shark fin or just shark fin, but its missing that nice texture that shark fins have.

NO!

NONONONONONONO.

Do not speak any further my white friend.

Hahaha. In all seriousness, NO.

Nonononono.

God no.

I'm 100% Chinese.

XD I'm just joking around :DD

As long as shark fin isn't banned, I will not tolerate rice vermicelli inside my "shark fin" soup. Never.Ever.
Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
October 27 2011 03:36 GMT
#694
On October 27 2011 12:31 Fishball wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2011 12:18 Blasterion wrote:
On October 27 2011 12:17 Zidane wrote:
Maybe you should just accept that many things chinese are retarded, such as shark fin soup as a status symbol, instead of thinking everyone is trying to attack you just because you are chinese.

Because talking shit about the errors of other cultures is all that you foreigners are capable of


I normally don't post in these threads, and have been able to remain this way throughout the years, but I'm just cringing so hard right now.

I agreed with a lot of your arguments in the Toddler thread; Before you started calling people names and got yourself banned. Now you're really just playing the victim card a bit too hard and counter accusing these "foreigners" picking on the Chinese. Really? Regardless how you look at this, complaining about it isn't going to help your cause. Your posts right now are just getting annoying.

Maybe, I was a little over my head, then let us speak of this matter intelligently, Speak to me friend, what do you want from us.
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Zidane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States1685 Posts
October 27 2011 03:37 GMT
#695
I've had shark fin soup being half chinese. Gordon Ramsay hit on the head when he says it adds absolutely ZERO to the soup.

I don't understand how people say its DELICIOUS rofl. I bet most of you think so because your parents tell you so.
Predguin
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada188 Posts
October 27 2011 03:38 GMT
#696
I'm glad they introduced the ban.

I watched Sharkwater a few years ago (I'm Chinese myself) and I was appalled at just how gruesome and brutal the way they 'harvested' the fins. The fact that it's really just a chunk of cartilage that offers nothing but some textural elements to a dish made primarily of unrelated broth is kind of silly to me. I think Sharkwater also addressed the rapidly decreasing shark population.. and that they kill less people a year than vending machines.

And it's stupid how it's supposed to be healthy (since apparently there's some misconception that Sharks have disease resistance/immunity... even though they're not) and pretty much just ends up being a chunk of cartilage that offers nothing but mercury poisoning is a bit laughable. If imitation meat's going to prevent sterility... then why not?



rd
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2586 Posts
October 27 2011 03:39 GMT
#697
First the bile bear story made me really sad and now this.

pandaBee
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States251 Posts
October 27 2011 03:40 GMT
#698
Btw just a bit of fact for you all: sharks have been around for hundreds of millions of years

so if sharks are becoming extinct it really has nothing to do with their intrinsic ability to survive... it's the humans.
Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
October 27 2011 03:42 GMT
#699
On October 27 2011 12:35 LanTAs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2011 12:33 theBALLS wrote:
On October 27 2011 12:29 LanTAs wrote:

How about, thick clear rice vermicelli? Closest thing you'll ever get to shark fin without artificial shark fin or just shark fin, but its missing that nice texture that shark fins have.

NO!

NONONONONONONO.

Do not speak any further my white friend.

Hahaha. In all seriousness, NO.

Nonononono.

God no.

I'm 100% Chinese.

XD I'm just joking around :DD

As long as shark fin isn't banned, I will not tolerate rice vermicelli inside my "shark fin" soup. Never.Ever.

Rather have Fish Maw
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LanTAs
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1091 Posts
October 27 2011 03:43 GMT
#700
On October 27 2011 12:37 Zidane wrote:
I've had shark fin soup being half chinese. Gordon Ramsay hit on the head when he says it adds absolutely ZERO to the soup.

I don't understand how people say its DELICIOUS rofl. I bet most of you think so because your parents tell you so.


The texture is quite nice combined with the taste of the soup, which is why a shit load of us love it. Yeah, it does have quite a bit of mercury, and yes it may be that our parents told us so, but it is quite delicious :D. Definitely worth saving the shark now so that later when I'm on my death bed, I can enjoy a good hot bowl of shark fin soup :D
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