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We are extremely close to shutting down this thread for the same reasons the PUA thread was shut down. While some of the time this thread contains actual discussion with people asking help and people giving nice advice, it often gets derailed by rubbish that should not be here. The moderation team will be trying to steer this thread in a different direction from now on.

Posts of the following nature are banned:
1) ANYTHING regarding PUA. If your post contains the words 'alpha' or 'beta' or anything of that sort please don't hit post.
2) Stupid brags. You can tell us about your nice success stories with someone, but posts such as 'lol 50 Tinder matches' are a no-no.
3) Any misogynistic bullshit, including discussion about rape culture.
4) One night stands and random sex. These are basically brags that invariably devolve into gender role discussions and misogynistic comments.

Last chance, guys. This thread is for dating advice and sharing dating stories. While gender roles, sociocultural norms, and our biological imperative to reproduce are all tangentially related, these subjects are not the main purpose of the thread. Please AVOID these discussions. If you want to discuss them at length, go to PMs or start a blog. If you disagree with someone's ideologies, state that you disagree with them and why they won't work from a dating standpoint and move on. We will not tolerate any lengthy derailments that aren't directly about dating.
bloodwhore~
Profile Joined September 2014
1010 Posts
March 03 2016 19:54 GMT
#16081
On March 04 2016 03:52 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
If she's happy doing what she's doing, then it's kind of condescending to look down on her for doing a job that you wouldn't do (whether it's prostitution, picking up garbage, being a teacher, or anything else). I'd be more okay with the mindset of "Meh, fuck her because she's my ex and she's a bitch" than "I pity her for finding a way to earn a living, because I'm above doing the thing that she needs to do".

I honestly doubt anyone is a prostitute because they want to.
"Allahu akbar" - Techies.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46246 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-03 21:02:21
March 03 2016 20:59 GMT
#16082
On March 04 2016 04:54 bloodwhore~ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2016 03:52 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
If she's happy doing what she's doing, then it's kind of condescending to look down on her for doing a job that you wouldn't do (whether it's prostitution, picking up garbage, being a teacher, or anything else). I'd be more okay with the mindset of "Meh, fuck her because she's my ex and she's a bitch" than "I pity her for finding a way to earn a living, because I'm above doing the thing that she needs to do".

I honestly doubt anyone is a prostitute because they want to.


I hear it can be good money and you get paid to have sex so... while it's probably not a long-term career goal for most, it's a job ::shrugs:: I just hope that everyone is safe and gets tested and everything.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
March 03 2016 21:23 GMT
#16083
i thought she was a manager at a guy's club?
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
Mikau
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Netherlands1446 Posts
March 03 2016 21:31 GMT
#16084
Read that post again, and now read between the lines. Something about the 'working girls' (prostitutes) saying she's hit the jackpot, and saying how 'strange' it is her salary suddenly quadrupled. He's heavily implying she's performing sexual favours at this "guy's club".
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24208 Posts
March 03 2016 21:54 GMT
#16085
On March 04 2016 04:54 bloodwhore~ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2016 03:52 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
If she's happy doing what she's doing, then it's kind of condescending to look down on her for doing a job that you wouldn't do (whether it's prostitution, picking up garbage, being a teacher, or anything else). I'd be more okay with the mindset of "Meh, fuck her because she's my ex and she's a bitch" than "I pity her for finding a way to earn a living, because I'm above doing the thing that she needs to do".

I honestly doubt anyone is a prostitute because they want to.


Well high end prostitutes who can be picky with their clients seem to enjoy their job. As much as anyone anyway, not a whole lot of people "want to" do the jobs they end up doing.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
B.I.G.
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
3251 Posts
March 03 2016 21:57 GMT
#16086
Yeah I'm not judging her for doing what she does, it's just sad that the girl I knew that wanted to get married and have kids etc. decided to go this route instead. Especially since now she is looking for a 'normal' job again with much lower pay kind of implies the dude is bored of her and discarding her.
bloodwhore~
Profile Joined September 2014
1010 Posts
March 03 2016 23:06 GMT
#16087
Well at least she is just a regular whore, being a blood whore is much worse.
"Allahu akbar" - Techies.
Kleinmuuhg
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Vanuatu4091 Posts
March 03 2016 23:23 GMT
#16088
yes. yes it is
This is our town, scrub
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
March 03 2016 23:38 GMT
#16089
On March 04 2016 08:06 bloodwhore~ wrote:
Well at least she is just a regular whore, being a blood whore is much worse.

Damn, 11 girls already.
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
March 04 2016 01:39 GMT
#16090
Maybe you shoulda treated her right BIG.
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
B.I.G.
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
3251 Posts
March 04 2016 14:22 GMT
#16091
The reactions like "she's a whore", and "you should've treated her better" are expected responses that went through my head as well. But I would like to invite you to take a step back and analyze the situation from a neutral point or view.

First of all I would like to state that if I would have the kind of influence over women that Igne implies I would be a fucking pimp by now. Trust me when I say this girl didn't get her money-hungry-willing-to-ride-a-dick kind of nature because I didn't whisper enough sweet words into her ear.

She came from humble origins. Had an education but nothing special. Has some pretty OK working skills but nothing that sets her apart. What leverage did she have? Big tits, a slim waist, a seductive smile, and a passion for fucking. She recognized the fact that this is a fucked up world controlled 90% by men and she realizes most of them are interested in 2 things: money and pussy. This girl, and those like her, aren't whores, they are hustlers. Using all they have to offer. It hurts me to recognize how fucked up it is but I respect the hustle, and I respect her for doing what she has to to get hers.
bloodwhore~
Profile Joined September 2014
1010 Posts
March 04 2016 17:20 GMT
#16092
On March 04 2016 23:22 B.I.G. wrote:
The reactions like "she's a whore", and "you should've treated her better" are expected responses that went through my head as well. But I would like to invite you to take a step back and analyze the situation from a neutral point or view.

First of all I would like to state that if I would have the kind of influence over women that Igne implies I would be a fucking pimp by now. Trust me when I say this girl didn't get her money-hungry-willing-to-ride-a-dick kind of nature because I didn't whisper enough sweet words into her ear.

She came from humble origins. Had an education but nothing special. Has some pretty OK working skills but nothing that sets her apart. What leverage did she have? Big tits, a slim waist, a seductive smile, and a passion for fucking. She recognized the fact that this is a fucked up world controlled 90% by men and she realizes most of them are interested in 2 things: money and pussy. This girl, and those like her, aren't whores, they are hustlers. Using all they have to offer. It hurts me to recognize how fucked up it is but I respect the hustle, and I respect her for doing what she has to to get hers.

whore
noun derogatory
a prostitute.

verb
(of a woman) work as a prostitute.

You said she worked as a prostitute basically so she is in fact a whore looking at the definition of whore... but I just said what I said because I have whore in my name and wanted to crack a joke. I also think it's sad some people end up like that.
"Allahu akbar" - Techies.
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
March 04 2016 18:57 GMT
#16093
Still a whore, regardless of how morally right she is.
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
March 04 2016 19:02 GMT
#16094
I don't understand something though, BIG. Why are you throwing shade on her if you still hang out with other prostitutes that know her?
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-04 22:02:05
March 04 2016 21:58 GMT
#16095
So what that she's a whore - it's her own body and life and you shouldn't judge, and especially not pity her as long as she's doing it from her free will.

Also had sex at tail end of period, it was fun yay!


Also having a bday day in town, and 7 friends all said they can't make it (well I did give them 6 days notice, and they are old farts with families and jobs and shit). So it's a birthday date - brewery tour, rollercoaster fair, huge meat feast in a restaurant and shitty rock band concert I'm wondering if she'll stick with me for the entirety of the day xD
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
B.I.G.
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
3251 Posts
March 05 2016 13:21 GMT
#16096
I used to work in a bar where a few prostitutes come fairly often. I consider one of them a friend and she showed me a bit of the hooker nightlife but that's about it. She is my source for "insider information".

I'm not sure what throwing shade on someone means but my reason for sharing this was that it is something that happened that forced me to reconsider how I look at prostitutes/golddiggers etc. I guess it's sort of adding nuance to the whole thing.

As lemon said no pity or judgement needed.
bloodwhore~
Profile Joined September 2014
1010 Posts
March 06 2016 11:55 GMT
#16097
I guess I can update a bit.

Slept over at the girl I'm dating yesterday. We were talking about dating etc and I asked her what she was looking for, she actually said she would like a relationship. I obviously know she wasn't saying that she wants to be in a relationship with me (feels like I had to make that disclaimer otherwise you guys would overanalyse what I said ). I didn't think she was going to be interested in one seeing how she talked about taking a year off school travelling etc.
"Allahu akbar" - Techies.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18399 Posts
March 06 2016 13:24 GMT
#16098
And you? What do you want?
bloodwhore~
Profile Joined September 2014
1010 Posts
March 06 2016 13:39 GMT
#16099
The same as her. I'd want a relationship too if I fall for her.
"Allahu akbar" - Techies.
WarSame
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1950 Posts
March 06 2016 18:27 GMT
#16100
What role do you guys and girls think fitness plays in dating? Are you fit? Does it help?
Can it be I stayed away too long? Did you miss these rhymes while I was gone?
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