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On March 04 2016 03:52 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: If she's happy doing what she's doing, then it's kind of condescending to look down on her for doing a job that you wouldn't do (whether it's prostitution, picking up garbage, being a teacher, or anything else). I'd be more okay with the mindset of "Meh, fuck her because she's my ex and she's a bitch" than "I pity her for finding a way to earn a living, because I'm above doing the thing that she needs to do". I honestly doubt anyone is a prostitute because they want to.
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On March 04 2016 04:54 bloodwhore~ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2016 03:52 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: If she's happy doing what she's doing, then it's kind of condescending to look down on her for doing a job that you wouldn't do (whether it's prostitution, picking up garbage, being a teacher, or anything else). I'd be more okay with the mindset of "Meh, fuck her because she's my ex and she's a bitch" than "I pity her for finding a way to earn a living, because I'm above doing the thing that she needs to do". I honestly doubt anyone is a prostitute because they want to.
I hear it can be good money and you get paid to have sex so... while it's probably not a long-term career goal for most, it's a job ::shrugs:: I just hope that everyone is safe and gets tested and everything.
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i thought she was a manager at a guy's club?
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Read that post again, and now read between the lines. Something about the 'working girls' (prostitutes) saying she's hit the jackpot, and saying how 'strange' it is her salary suddenly quadrupled. He's heavily implying she's performing sexual favours at this "guy's club".
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On March 04 2016 04:54 bloodwhore~ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2016 03:52 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: If she's happy doing what she's doing, then it's kind of condescending to look down on her for doing a job that you wouldn't do (whether it's prostitution, picking up garbage, being a teacher, or anything else). I'd be more okay with the mindset of "Meh, fuck her because she's my ex and she's a bitch" than "I pity her for finding a way to earn a living, because I'm above doing the thing that she needs to do". I honestly doubt anyone is a prostitute because they want to.
Well high end prostitutes who can be picky with their clients seem to enjoy their job. As much as anyone anyway, not a whole lot of people "want to" do the jobs they end up doing.
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Yeah I'm not judging her for doing what she does, it's just sad that the girl I knew that wanted to get married and have kids etc. decided to go this route instead. Especially since now she is looking for a 'normal' job again with much lower pay kind of implies the dude is bored of her and discarding her.
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Well at least she is just a regular whore, being a blood whore is much worse.
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On March 04 2016 08:06 bloodwhore~ wrote: Well at least she is just a regular whore, being a blood whore is much worse. Damn, 11 girls already.
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Maybe you shoulda treated her right BIG.
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The reactions like "she's a whore", and "you should've treated her better" are expected responses that went through my head as well. But I would like to invite you to take a step back and analyze the situation from a neutral point or view.
First of all I would like to state that if I would have the kind of influence over women that Igne implies I would be a fucking pimp by now. Trust me when I say this girl didn't get her money-hungry-willing-to-ride-a-dick kind of nature because I didn't whisper enough sweet words into her ear.
She came from humble origins. Had an education but nothing special. Has some pretty OK working skills but nothing that sets her apart. What leverage did she have? Big tits, a slim waist, a seductive smile, and a passion for fucking. She recognized the fact that this is a fucked up world controlled 90% by men and she realizes most of them are interested in 2 things: money and pussy. This girl, and those like her, aren't whores, they are hustlers. Using all they have to offer. It hurts me to recognize how fucked up it is but I respect the hustle, and I respect her for doing what she has to to get hers.
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On March 04 2016 23:22 B.I.G. wrote: The reactions like "she's a whore", and "you should've treated her better" are expected responses that went through my head as well. But I would like to invite you to take a step back and analyze the situation from a neutral point or view.
First of all I would like to state that if I would have the kind of influence over women that Igne implies I would be a fucking pimp by now. Trust me when I say this girl didn't get her money-hungry-willing-to-ride-a-dick kind of nature because I didn't whisper enough sweet words into her ear.
She came from humble origins. Had an education but nothing special. Has some pretty OK working skills but nothing that sets her apart. What leverage did she have? Big tits, a slim waist, a seductive smile, and a passion for fucking. She recognized the fact that this is a fucked up world controlled 90% by men and she realizes most of them are interested in 2 things: money and pussy. This girl, and those like her, aren't whores, they are hustlers. Using all they have to offer. It hurts me to recognize how fucked up it is but I respect the hustle, and I respect her for doing what she has to to get hers. whore noun derogatory a prostitute.
verb (of a woman) work as a prostitute.
You said she worked as a prostitute basically so she is in fact a whore looking at the definition of whore... but I just said what I said because I have whore in my name and wanted to crack a joke. I also think it's sad some people end up like that.
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Still a whore, regardless of how morally right she is.
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I don't understand something though, BIG. Why are you throwing shade on her if you still hang out with other prostitutes that know her?
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So what that she's a whore - it's her own body and life and you shouldn't judge, and especially not pity her as long as she's doing it from her free will.
Also had sex at tail end of period, it was fun yay!
Also having a bday day in town, and 7 friends all said they can't make it (well I did give them 6 days notice, and they are old farts with families and jobs and shit). So it's a birthday date - brewery tour, rollercoaster fair, huge meat feast in a restaurant and shitty rock band concert I'm wondering if she'll stick with me for the entirety of the day xD
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I used to work in a bar where a few prostitutes come fairly often. I consider one of them a friend and she showed me a bit of the hooker nightlife but that's about it. She is my source for "insider information".
I'm not sure what throwing shade on someone means but my reason for sharing this was that it is something that happened that forced me to reconsider how I look at prostitutes/golddiggers etc. I guess it's sort of adding nuance to the whole thing.
As lemon said no pity or judgement needed.
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I guess I can update a bit.
Slept over at the girl I'm dating yesterday. We were talking about dating etc and I asked her what she was looking for, she actually said she would like a relationship. I obviously know she wasn't saying that she wants to be in a relationship with me (feels like I had to make that disclaimer otherwise you guys would overanalyse what I said ). I didn't think she was going to be interested in one seeing how she talked about taking a year off school travelling etc.
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And you? What do you want?
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The same as her. I'd want a relationship too if I fall for her.
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What role do you guys and girls think fitness plays in dating? Are you fit? Does it help?
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