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We are extremely close to shutting down this thread for the same reasons the PUA thread was shut down. While some of the time this thread contains actual discussion with people asking help and people giving nice advice, it often gets derailed by rubbish that should not be here. The moderation team will be trying to steer this thread in a different direction from now on.

Posts of the following nature are banned:
1) ANYTHING regarding PUA. If your post contains the words 'alpha' or 'beta' or anything of that sort please don't hit post.
2) Stupid brags. You can tell us about your nice success stories with someone, but posts such as 'lol 50 Tinder matches' are a no-no.
3) Any misogynistic bullshit, including discussion about rape culture.
4) One night stands and random sex. These are basically brags that invariably devolve into gender role discussions and misogynistic comments.

Last chance, guys. This thread is for dating advice and sharing dating stories. While gender roles, sociocultural norms, and our biological imperative to reproduce are all tangentially related, these subjects are not the main purpose of the thread. Please AVOID these discussions. If you want to discuss them at length, go to PMs or start a blog. If you disagree with someone's ideologies, state that you disagree with them and why they won't work from a dating standpoint and move on. We will not tolerate any lengthy derailments that aren't directly about dating.
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
August 06 2015 05:18 GMT
#13481
It's 2 weeks who cares.

@sentinel
why would you even bother going on the first date if you knew that already???
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-06 05:36:12
August 06 2015 05:23 GMT
#13482
On August 06 2015 14:10 Chocolate wrote:
I've definitely had girls do that before to try to flirt with me. I'm 100% not kidding. If I were to analyze it, I would guess they do it to both demonstrate value and make you jealous


Subconsciously, maybe. Additionally girls do it to pump up their own self-esteem.

On August 06 2015 14:10 Chocolate wrote:
By the way I don't mind embarrassment with my colleagues, I don't want HER to reject me and thus ruin my work environment whenever I am with her due to awkwardness


Again, if the threat of theoretical embarrassment (and the awkwardness comes from you, not the situation) stops you then you don't like her enough anyway.

WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
Advantageous
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
China1350 Posts
August 06 2015 09:01 GMT
#13483
On August 06 2015 14:10 Chocolate wrote:
I've definitely had girls do that before to try to flirt with me. I'm 100% not kidding. If I were to analyze it, I would guess they do it to both demonstrate value and make you jealous

Of course I realize that she may not be. It was also a passing comment and not like a topic of conversation or anything

By the way I don't mind embarrassment with my colleagues, I don't want HER to reject me and thus ruin my work environment whenever I am with her due to awkwardness


If she rejects you and you feel awkward, then its partially on you. it takes 1 person to feel awkward to create a group feeling of awkwardness. tbh, if you really like her just make a move, if u get rejected u'll only being seeing her for 2wks; who knows? u might even become great friends.
"Because I am BossToss" -MC ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ raise your dongers ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ I'm sure that all of my fellow class mates viewed me as the Adonis of the Class of 2015 already. -Xenocider, EG, ieF 2013 Champion.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45439 Posts
August 06 2015 10:04 GMT
#13484
On August 06 2015 11:39 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 10:27 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Record store date went pretty nicely. She lives a bit too far away to make it work, but we had a great listening session, learned some new stuff about music, I found some great additions to my melodeath collection, and best of all after she left I looked around some more and managed to get a great deal on a Backstreet Boys album I've been looking for but never been able to find a solid copy of. So the day was well spent.



I will vehemently defend anyone else who also loves BSB.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
August 06 2015 14:09 GMT
#13485
On August 06 2015 14:18 IgnE wrote:
It's 2 weeks who cares.

@sentinel
why would you even bother going on the first date if you knew that already???

Better than nothing. I can't leave the house much between work and songwriting, it's just nice to get out of the house once in a while.

I found one a lot closer, like two towns away. So we'll see where that leads.
On August 06 2015 19:04 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 11:39 Acrofales wrote:
On August 06 2015 10:27 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Record store date went pretty nicely. She lives a bit too far away to make it work, but we had a great listening session, learned some new stuff about music, I found some great additions to my melodeath collection, and best of all after she left I looked around some more and managed to get a great deal on a Backstreet Boys album I've been looking for but never been able to find a solid copy of. So the day was well spent.



I will vehemently defend anyone else who also loves BSB.

<3

You'll love my opera.
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bloodwhore~
Profile Joined September 2014
1010 Posts
August 06 2015 14:31 GMT
#13486
On August 06 2015 23:09 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:

I found one a lot closer, like two towns away. So we'll see where that leads.


Are you using a dating site, if so, which?
"Allahu akbar" - Techies.
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
August 06 2015 14:35 GMT
#13487
On August 06 2015 23:31 bloodwhore~ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2015 23:09 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:

I found one a lot closer, like two towns away. So we'll see where that leads.


Are you using a dating site, if so, which?

Tinder.
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bloodwhore~
Profile Joined September 2014
1010 Posts
August 06 2015 14:38 GMT
#13488
On August 06 2015 23:35 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Tinder.


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User was warned for this post
"Allahu akbar" - Techies.
waffelz
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Germany711 Posts
August 06 2015 19:22 GMT
#13489
Update, third date also was awesome.
Initially it should have been just her helping me with my preparations for the exam today, but as expected, I was more then just prepared. She had insisted on checking though, since I tend to display a very casual attitude towards exam and since she never experienced me doing exams, she probably didn't realized that I was just joking and do care enough. Also, I didn't chant "1.0 or death" this time, when I got asked how I feel about it. So we got quite some time that we spend together nicely. Later on she hinted that she would like to spend the night at my place.
So considering LemOn's advice from earlier, I figured this would be the right moment to bring up the topic of me and taking certain things slow. It went way better then expected. First, she just was incredibly relieved. Apparently I really confused her when I went right for the couch on our first date which also made her uncertain about how I perceive her, if it was me finding her unattractive/not liking her place(which is way nice than mine. wtf women?) etc. . She also assumed that I would be quite the opposite and more of a womanizer which I found more then funny... like yeah, I guess I displayed quite nicely what a wild womanizer I am in this thread. And I was apparently giving her lots of mixed signals, or at least she misinterpreted a lot of stuff. Overall the talk went very well and I got a lot of useful information, sputtering out of her because of her relief. Given the stuff above, she though I would just gently lay her off in the near future and my introduction to the whole talk probably also sounded like that.
In the end, she told me that she didn't expected me to be that way, but she's not put off by it and actually finds it really sweet. Best part however was, after we talked and joked a bit and she got from her hyped up and relieved temper back to her normal one and suddenly dead serious dropped something like: "Ok, so you not sure about what you want at this point, but I am. That should put me in charge of the situation, since I am actually know what I am want/I am doing. I want to be near you, spend the night with you, even if we don't have sex. So I will stay here overnight, we will kiss and cuddle and sleep next top each other and you wont need to fear for your precious sacred virginity my sweet little bitch." after which she then just cuddled herself onto my shoulder and actively smiled at me like I was retarded.
Rest of that day also went well, we joked, watched some episodes of a series she likes and then went to bed. I also am proud of me for telling her that I really appreciate her body when she got undressed down to her underwear for the night, acting a bit strange shortly afterwards and then asking me for a shirt to sleep in, just to leave it on the chair after I told her how I feel about her body. I already told her during our talk that I appreciate her body, but I guess she didn't believed it entirely at first. Having spend the night with her on my side also felt really good, especially waking up to her sneaking up on me and then cuddling herself onto me.
Next day I got up, made some breakfast and then wrote my exam like a boss, returned, we talked a bit again and she left with telling me she will give me notice about the when/where/what of our next date.
I guess I begin to seriously fall for her. Also, no longer being in charge feels awesome :D. Haven't experienced this before since usually its expected for the men to take initiative, but it feels relay refreshing and relaxing this way. Here that women out there? Time to equal this a bit.I mean, as long as I am still allowed to make decisions. Have to ask for that first though.
You guys also where definitely right about her invitation to stay at my place, I am also sure she planned on staying at my place this date, got to take notes to not miss hints again, even though they where obvious enough this time, even for me.

A little rant though... the series she introduced me to was "orange is the new black", this prison-series which is kind of popular as it seems. Holy shit is that show bad(so far). I generally don't like series because of their stupid stuff happening/filler/cliff-hanger-formula, but this one if just full of bitchy characters. The main character seems just naive and bitchy, her boyfriend totally is, almost every situation so far could have been avoided by one of these 3 steps:
1. try not to be a little bitch.
2. consider the feelings/thoughts of the opposing person.
3. try not to be a little bitch.

+ Show Spoiler +
please dont ban me xD
+ Show Spoiler +
Also, either almost all the black characters in this show are totally racist stereotypes, or the segregation would have been at least partially justified... . If there are people seriously acting like this, they need to join a circus or are constantly asking for a strong back-hand


And while I am already off topic, sorry, but the BSB-thing... yeah, that just begs for a ban
RIP "The big travis CS degree thread", taken from us too soon | Honourable forum princess, defended by Rebs-approved white knights
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
August 06 2015 19:41 GMT
#13490
"Ok, so you not sure about what you want at this point, but I am. That should put me in charge of the situation, since I am actually know what I am want/I am doing. I want to be near you, spend the night with you, even if we don't have sex. So I will stay here overnight, we will kiss and cuddle and sleep next top each other and you wont need to fear for your precious sacred virginity my sweet little bitch."


20 bucks says she's into S&M.

Regarding OITNB, yeah I can't stand Piper or a lot of the other main characters. Couldn't get through the first season.

And regarding BSB, I don't care, this was worth my 4 dollars:
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Snotling
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany885 Posts
August 06 2015 19:42 GMT
#13491
I second that, prepare for the strap-on.
waffelz
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Germany711 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-06 20:04:47
August 06 2015 20:03 GMT
#13492
lol... I doubt the strap-on part, but better wait for Igne to say the same to be sure its nonsense

About the S&M stuff... maybe, its not nececarly bad . But that part also isn't reall indicitive for that. The bitch part was more a teasing joke she continued to use. And her taking charge makes sense if you lookt at it. I am not sure what I want, she is sure what she wants. If you want something, you have to work for it. Her logic sounds simple and reasonable to me. Whatever, I can only recommend it. Girls have it easy, as soon as the dating phase begins.

EDIT: Unless she wants me to watch fifty shades of grey next. I think that would be a red flag.
RIP "The big travis CS degree thread", taken from us too soon | Honourable forum princess, defended by Rebs-approved white knights
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
August 06 2015 20:04 GMT
#13493
On August 07 2015 05:03 waffelz wrote:
lol... I doubt the strap-on part, but better wait for Igne to say the same to be sure its nonsense

About the S&M stuff... maybe, its not nececarly bad . But that part also isn't reall indicitive for that. The bitch part was more a teasing joke she continued to use. And her taking charge makes sense if you lookt at it. I am not sure what I want, she is sure what she wants. If you want something, you have to work for it. Her logic sounds simple and reasonable to me. Whatever, I can only recommend it. Girls have it easy, as soon as the dating phase begins.

Agreed.

Girls have it easier but guys have it more fun. Dating by trial and error has done wonders for my confidence.
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waffelz
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Germany711 Posts
August 06 2015 20:10 GMT
#13494
You're a men, son. You shouldn't need anything to boost your confidence, you should be born with it.
But I wasn't that serious about it. Everything has it pro and cons. We guys for example dont have to worry that much about weirdos hitting on us in a way thats really cringeworthy. Or at least, we dont have to worry much about it.
Whatever, I enjoy that I got the benefits of both worlds at the moment.
RIP "The big travis CS degree thread", taken from us too soon | Honourable forum princess, defended by Rebs-approved white knights
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
August 06 2015 20:13 GMT
#13495
On August 07 2015 05:10 waffelz wrote:
You're a men, son. You shouldn't need anything to boost your confidence, you should be born with it.
But I wasn't that serious about it. Everything has it pro and cons. We guys for example dont have to worry that much about weirdos hitting on us in a way thats really cringeworthy. Or at least, we dont have to worry much about it.
Whatever, I enjoy that I got the benefits of both worlds at the moment.

Women are from Zerus, men are from Aiur. David Kim maintains the 50% winrate

But at any rate, keep us posted on what happens next!
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waffelz
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Germany711 Posts
August 06 2015 20:56 GMT
#13496
Seems right. Always found zerg apealing and couldnt care much for protoss : D
Also just got instructions for the next date. Im invited to her ladys night this friday... I guess this will get interesting. Cant wait to face her friends - I expect nothing but horror lol.
RIP "The big travis CS degree thread", taken from us too soon | Honourable forum princess, defended by Rebs-approved white knights
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
August 06 2015 20:58 GMT
#13497
On August 07 2015 05:56 waffelz wrote:
Seems right. Always found zerg apealing and couldnt care much for protoss : D
Also just got instructions for the next date. Im invited to her ladys night this friday... I guess this will get interesting. Cant wait to face her friends - I expect nothing but horror lol.

That's perfect though! If they love you, nothing can come between the two of you since they'll encourage her, right?

And I guess since I like PvP I'm gay ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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waffelz
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Germany711 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-06 21:29:18
August 06 2015 21:13 GMT
#13498
I guess you're right(in both cases ). I just dont know exactly what to expect since she clearly enjoys teasing me without telling me anything/ I already figured her out enough to know that a few of her hints are deceptions. I also assume that her question if I can dance was serious though, which opens up a few possibilities most of which I am not really keen on. I dont really go to partys and almost dislike any aspect of disco's. I dont drink and find drunken people in generall just annoying.
Usually I come of very well towards other people so i think I will be fine, it just will be a hellish-boring night and god I hope her friends are at least half as interesting as her/not to girly, because otherwise it will be seriously boring. So yeah... complaining on a high level^^
RIP "The big travis CS degree thread", taken from us too soon | Honourable forum princess, defended by Rebs-approved white knights
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
August 06 2015 21:50 GMT
#13499
On August 07 2015 06:13 waffelz wrote:
I guess you're right(in both cases ). I just dont know exactly what to expect since she clearly enjoys teasing me without telling me anything/ I already figured her out enough to know that a few of her hints are deceptions. I also assume that her question if I can dance was serious though, which opens up a few possibilities most of which I am not really keen on. I dont really go to partys and almost dislike any aspect of disco's. I dont drink and find drunken people in generall just annoying.
Usually I come of very well towards other people so i think I will be fine, it just will be a hellish-boring night and god I hope her friends are at least half as interesting as her/not to girly, because otherwise it will be seriously boring. So yeah... complaining on a high level^^

Idk... I guess hang out with her more while you're there, if any of her friends sound boring try and ask one of them a funny question to see what happens. Not really sure, I hate parties too but usually I drink through them so that part of my brain turns off and I can get to networking.
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freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
August 06 2015 23:39 GMT
#13500
So I met this girl at a charity camp for poor kids a month ago, where we were both volunteer animators.
It was a week long, and I felt super connected with her, I never opened this much to anyone before, but there was nothing sexual there (she had a boyfriend). We didn't flirt.
I wanted to meet her again to just hang out, and it was hard to organize, because both of us are having some hard times, but we could meet this Tuesday.

After the camp and before that I was on two dates with this other girl from my loose social circle, the second date was on Monday.

Somehow at the weekend I already felt that I was extremely happy that I would meet the girl from the camp again (a non-date), so much that I kind of forgot about the Monday date (which still went well).

On Tuesday, we went to some green area with some alcohol, talked, played some 2 player games.. it still started nonsexual to me, really!. But after the dark we just tangled and made out, the change in tone was extremely fast.
I fell for her so hard, she is everything I wanted in a companion.

Now this puts me at the awkward situation.. I still have to sort out the first girl who probably won't get it at all, because the dates so far went well, and the girl from the camp still lives with her boyfriend (whom I totally forgot about till next day). She calls me tomorrow about what she's gonna do.

Join me in the next episode..
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