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We are extremely close to shutting down this thread for the same reasons the PUA thread was shut down. While some of the time this thread contains actual discussion with people asking help and people giving nice advice, it often gets derailed by rubbish that should not be here. The moderation team will be trying to steer this thread in a different direction from now on.

Posts of the following nature are banned:
1) ANYTHING regarding PUA. If your post contains the words 'alpha' or 'beta' or anything of that sort please don't hit post.
2) Stupid brags. You can tell us about your nice success stories with someone, but posts such as 'lol 50 Tinder matches' are a no-no.
3) Any misogynistic bullshit, including discussion about rape culture.
4) One night stands and random sex. These are basically brags that invariably devolve into gender role discussions and misogynistic comments.

Last chance, guys. This thread is for dating advice and sharing dating stories. While gender roles, sociocultural norms, and our biological imperative to reproduce are all tangentially related, these subjects are not the main purpose of the thread. Please AVOID these discussions. If you want to discuss them at length, go to PMs or start a blog. If you disagree with someone's ideologies, state that you disagree with them and why they won't work from a dating standpoint and move on. We will not tolerate any lengthy derailments that aren't directly about dating.
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
August 04 2015 23:39 GMT
#13441
so when do you guys recommend dropping the first I love you
and how
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
August 04 2015 23:41 GMT
#13442
On August 05 2015 08:39 LemOn wrote:
so when do you guys recommend dropping the first I love you
and how

At the end of the first fuck works for me.
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4216 Posts
August 04 2015 23:46 GMT
#13443
On August 05 2015 08:41 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2015 08:39 LemOn wrote:
so when do you guys recommend dropping the first I love you
and how

At the end of the first fuck works for me.

I laughed harder than I think I should have. Bravo sir.
~ \(ˌ)im-ˈpər-vē-əs\ : not capable of being damaged or harmed.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18856 Posts
August 04 2015 23:49 GMT
#13444
I mean, if you're in touch enough with your feelings to truthfully utter the phrase "I love you," you shouldn't need to ask when to say it for the first time.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-04 23:59:57
August 04 2015 23:57 GMT
#13445
I dunno I felt it strongly, wanted to say it but stopped myself
as it was after sex+bj indeed, it'd feel like cause I got sexy time and wanted to say it just because when I'm unaffected by just getting some?
overthinking again for sure, I love overthinking tho
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
biology]major
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2253 Posts
August 05 2015 00:16 GMT
#13446
let the girl worry about labeling the relationship and saying "i love you"
Question.?
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
August 05 2015 00:35 GMT
#13447
On August 05 2015 08:46 Impervious wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2015 08:41 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On August 05 2015 08:39 LemOn wrote:
so when do you guys recommend dropping the first I love you
and how

At the end of the first fuck works for me.

I laughed harder than I think I should have. Bravo sir.

I'm only half-joking. If you blow your load and all your sex desire just went out the window (or out your dickhole), and you still love her afterward, that means you love her with your heart and not your balls, and all is well.
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
Fyodor
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada971 Posts
August 05 2015 04:53 GMT
#13448
On August 05 2015 09:16 biology]major wrote:
let the girl worry about labeling the relationship and saying "i love you"

Yep, this right there is how I roll.
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IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
August 05 2015 05:28 GMT
#13449
Real men say "I love you" first.
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
bloodwhore~
Profile Joined September 2014
1010 Posts
August 05 2015 08:52 GMT
#13450
On August 05 2015 14:28 IgnE wrote:
Real men say "I love you" first.


Giggled.

"Allahu akbar" - Techies.
bloodwhore~
Profile Joined September 2014
1010 Posts
August 05 2015 08:53 GMT
#13451
So I've been thinking of using another dating site. It's called happypancake, it's more of the OKCupid way. I feel that I kind of would like something a bit more serious and I don't think Tinder will cut it. Now I just have to muster up enough courage to make an account.
"Allahu akbar" - Techies.
JoeCool
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany2520 Posts
August 05 2015 09:24 GMT
#13452
On August 05 2015 17:53 bloodwhore~ wrote:
So I've been thinking of using another dating site. It's called happypancake, it's more of the OKCupid way. I feel that I kind of would like something a bit more serious and I don't think Tinder will cut it. Now I just have to muster up enough courage to make an account.


What happend to "classic dating"? You know going out, meeting women in RL, approaching women in public etc. ...
bloodwhore~
Profile Joined September 2014
1010 Posts
August 05 2015 09:39 GMT
#13453
On August 05 2015 18:24 JoeCool wrote:
What happend to "classic dating"? You know going out, meeting women in RL, approaching women in public etc. ...


Sure I will try to do that as well, however I will not go out with the intention to meet someone. Not going to do some pickup artist. I don't really meet that many women at university and I'm not going to rely on meeting someone in real since it has not worked at all so far.
"Allahu akbar" - Techies.
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-05 09:56:46
August 05 2015 09:54 GMT
#13454
On August 05 2015 09:16 biology]major wrote:
let the girl worry about labeling the relationship and saying "i love you"

Oh she did already say that - labeling the relationship and saying I love you are 2 completely different things no?
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
bloodwhore~
Profile Joined September 2014
1010 Posts
August 05 2015 09:57 GMT
#13455
On August 05 2015 18:54 LemOn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2015 09:16 biology]major wrote:
let the girl worry about labeling the relationship and saying "i love you"

Oh she did already say that - labeling the relationship and saying I love you are 2 completely different things no?


Then go ahead? WEEEEE LOVE!
"Allahu akbar" - Techies.
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
August 05 2015 09:58 GMT
#13456
On August 05 2015 18:39 bloodwhore~ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2015 18:24 JoeCool wrote:
What happend to "classic dating"? You know going out, meeting women in RL, approaching women in public etc. ...


Sure I will try to do that as well, however I will not go out with the intention to meet someone. Not going to do some pickup artist. I don't really meet that many women at university and I'm not going to rely on meeting someone in real since it has not worked at all so far.

Are you sure you're not just rationalizing fear?
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
bloodwhore~
Profile Joined September 2014
1010 Posts
August 05 2015 10:01 GMT
#13457
On August 05 2015 18:58 LemOn wrote:
Are you sure you're not just rationalizing fear?


What do you mean, that I'm scared of meeting girls in real?

In my eyes going out doing pickup artist stuff is "equally bad" as to meeting girls online. It's just much easier to talk to girls online first and I can weed out girls I don't think seem like they are interesting.
"Allahu akbar" - Techies.
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-05 10:12:02
August 05 2015 10:03 GMT
#13458
On August 05 2015 18:57 bloodwhore~ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2015 18:54 LemOn wrote:
On August 05 2015 09:16 biology]major wrote:
let the girl worry about labeling the relationship and saying "i love you"

Oh she did already say that - labeling the relationship and saying I love you are 2 completely different things no?


Then go ahead? WEEEEE LOVE!

guess I should just say it whenever I feel like it?
Just thought it's better to do it just when she's being herself for no reason, not right after I find out she's open to sex outside and likes the taste of it in one night.
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-05 10:10:46
August 05 2015 10:08 GMT
#13459
On August 05 2015 19:01 bloodwhore~ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2015 18:58 LemOn wrote:
Are you sure you're not just rationalizing fear?


What do you mean, that I'm scared of meeting girls in real?

In my eyes going out doing pickup artist stuff is "equally bad" as to meeting girls online. It's just much easier to talk to girls online first and I can weed out girls I don't think seem like they are interesting.

Not sure why would you say approaching girls IRL is "bad" whatsoever? And what does it have to do with pick up artists?

Also why would you say weeing out girls that aren't interesting is faster online? Shouldn't it be the opposite actually?
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
bloodwhore~
Profile Joined September 2014
1010 Posts
August 05 2015 10:08 GMT
#13460

when she's being herself

I find out she's open to sex outside and likes the taste of it in one night

Literally what! What do you mean?

I would tell a girl I loved her if I actually did. I wouldn't tell her I love her because she has a certain fetish... (did I misinterpret entirely?). It doesn't matter if she doesn't say it back she just might haven't fallen for you but to wait for a specific time is dumb in my opinion.
"Allahu akbar" - Techies.
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