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We are extremely close to shutting down this thread for the same reasons the PUA thread was shut down. While some of the time this thread contains actual discussion with people asking help and people giving nice advice, it often gets derailed by rubbish that should not be here. The moderation team will be trying to steer this thread in a different direction from now on.

Posts of the following nature are banned:
1) ANYTHING regarding PUA. If your post contains the words 'alpha' or 'beta' or anything of that sort please don't hit post.
2) Stupid brags. You can tell us about your nice success stories with someone, but posts such as 'lol 50 Tinder matches' are a no-no.
3) Any misogynistic bullshit, including discussion about rape culture.
4) One night stands and random sex. These are basically brags that invariably devolve into gender role discussions and misogynistic comments.

Last chance, guys. This thread is for dating advice and sharing dating stories. While gender roles, sociocultural norms, and our biological imperative to reproduce are all tangentially related, these subjects are not the main purpose of the thread. Please AVOID these discussions. If you want to discuss them at length, go to PMs or start a blog. If you disagree with someone's ideologies, state that you disagree with them and why they won't work from a dating standpoint and move on. We will not tolerate any lengthy derailments that aren't directly about dating.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27478 Posts
July 31 2013 20:33 GMT
#4721
Is that a Jim Jeffries bit? I don't recall it to mind, but it certainly could be in my subconscious, I am quite partial to Mr Jeffries

My partner and I were joshing around, she teases that I am stuck with her as the ladies wont want a single dad so I should suck it up and be grateful. I like to think I won that exchange :p
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
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Frumpysnoo
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States247 Posts
July 31 2013 22:01 GMT
#4722
I'm talking to this really awesome girl, but holy shit I can't help but feel out of my league. There isn't any particular reason, just for some reason I feel like it's inevitable that she's going to not like me or find that I'm not that interesting lol. I don't know if it's a confidence thing, or the fact that I haven't dated a girl in about 3 years and haven't gotten laid for nearly as long. This all stemming from myself, as I left a long-term relationship and I really needed time to just gather myself. What is this, a blog? Jesus..

tl;dr - Has anyone else felt like a girl was out of their league, and how did you overcome this feeling?

I know once (if) our relationship gets to a certain point, I'll feel 100% with her. I just really fucking hate when girls make me nervous..
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18876 Posts
July 31 2013 22:28 GMT
#4723
Even though I'm fairly "successful" with women, my first thought when meeting a fine lass is still almost always, "oh shit, this woman is way too attractive for me."


Then I say fuck it and dive in head first. Think of it like jumpin into a cold pool on a hot day .
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27478 Posts
July 31 2013 22:31 GMT
#4724
On August 01 2013 07:28 farvacola wrote:
Even though I'm fairly "successful" with women, my first thought when meeting a fine lass is still almost always, "oh shit, this woman is way too attractive for me."


Then I say fuck it and dive in head first. Think of it like jumpin into a cold pool on a hot day .

I kind of, don't think like that I guess. I managed to convince myself years ago that attractiveness is something you're born with, and thus you can only really take pride in your accomplishments and things you worked hard to achieve. The lucky offshoot of that is that hot girls don't intimidate me in the slightest, if anything my romantic troubles have always been finding people boring, as without the 'omg you're hot' eyes-glazing over effect I don't really get anywhere.

'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32164 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-31 23:58:29
July 31 2013 23:52 GMT
#4725
On July 31 2013 11:22 docvoc wrote:
Hey Hawk, I just wanted to say that the reason I have a conservative view on the subject is for two reasons:
1. Is because of Woody'sgamertag. I remember his discourses on sex in his CoD videos. The guy is kinda like a dad to a lot of the CoD scene, and he gives sounds advice. A lot of what I said was cut and pasted from him honestly, and I've stuck with the philosophy because it has served me well.
2. Is because I'm in a serious relationship, and I can say that the experience has also made me cherish intimacy in a more sophisticated way (or I like to think so LOL, I'm so pretentious).

Now for the hipocrisy part. When I got with my now gf, we spent the first several weeks pretty much talking non-stop and hooking up. There was no first date, there was nothing like that at all. That makes me a huge hypocrite, and I'll admit that if I weren't in a relationship, I'd probably be the exact guy that would take the 1 night stand girl and turn her into a girlfriend. So yeah, I'm a huge hypocrite XD.


I wasn't saying that being conservative is bad, if you didn't catch it! My point in bringing it up was where that standard was born, and sometimes, unfortunately, conservative goes hand in hand with gender inequality. It's fine so long as you hold yourself to the same standards.

also, you're what... 19?? Expect to fuck up and have your view points constantly challenged and even change over time, esp while in college! It's more about learning from that and realizing when you do something stupid and trying to not repeat it. You'll be fine. you're a smart dude.

the promise ring is kinda stupid though, imo!

On July 31 2013 05:55 chadissilent wrote:
It's not hard to get a pretty decent read on people after a few dates though. Beyond that, I agree -- it is a giant leap of faith, but I'd rather put that faith in someone I've had a chance to read. Like I said, I've almost been burned so even if its just a small precautionary measure it wouldn't hurt.


I am not disagreeing about getting a good read on a person's personality after a couple dates. I'm just saying that really isn't gonna give you enough info about whether or not your dick is gonna itch after. Even an honest person could get something that they don't know they have. But yeah, I am not really quite disagreeing that youll know someone better and have a better chance of not getting something, but just kinda saying that your method is more peace of mind than anything

On August 01 2013 07:01 Frumpysnoo wrote:
I'm talking to this really awesome girl, but holy shit I can't help but feel out of my league. There isn't any particular reason, just for some reason I feel like it's inevitable that she's going to not like me or find that I'm not that interesting lol. I don't know if it's a confidence thing, or the fact that I haven't dated a girl in about 3 years and haven't gotten laid for nearly as long. This all stemming from myself, as I left a long-term relationship and I really needed time to just gather myself. What is this, a blog? Jesus..

tl;dr - Has anyone else felt like a girl was out of their league, and how did you overcome this feeling?

I know once (if) our relationship gets to a certain point, I'll feel 100% with her. I just really fucking hate when girls make me nervous..


go out somewhere, bask in the jealous stares of other patrons, feel your ego fucking skyrocket

you're doing something right if she is talking to you so how out of your league can she be if youre in hers?
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docvoc
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States5491 Posts
August 01 2013 01:44 GMT
#4726
Don't worry about people being out of your league. I feel that way when it comes to guys and girls. Especially during my single days in highschool, being outclassed in looks by a guy who looks 21 but is 16 is overwhelmingly hard to deal with since it's all genetics, but in the end, girls like certain characteristics, so she being out of your league doesn't necessarily have to be true in her eyes.
User was warned for too many mimes.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27478 Posts
August 01 2013 01:47 GMT
#4727
Us guys are lucky in a sense.

Generalisation alert

Us menfolk can really get around being unattractive/average in a whole multitude of ways, be it holding a position of power and influence, or just being funny and personable in a way that girls have less capacity to.

To Frumpy, embrace your heritage as a male, you got this!
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
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IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7684 Posts
August 01 2013 02:54 GMT
#4728
On August 01 2013 03:34 docvoc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 03:29 Wombat_NI wrote:
Ah, the one that South Park so gloriously lampooned.

Nah, I think it's a bad idea, for me personally anyway. Sex is kind of a big deal, it's a bad idea to enter into such a commitment without at least testing the waters first.

I'm talking about for my girlfriend who I'll have been with for 2 years in a few months haha. It's not really a "pre-engagement" ring though, it's more like a, "I won't cheat on you in college," ring. I was thinking about getting my girl one.



Waste of money. You will break up in college.
It is terrible to die of thirst at sea. Must you so salt your truth that it will no longer even slake thirst?
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27478 Posts
August 01 2013 03:01 GMT
#4729
IgnE, come on man I'll give you a pass since our discussion about nipple redundancy amused me, but breaking up isn't an inevitability by any means.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
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IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7684 Posts
August 01 2013 03:04 GMT
#4730
Depends what you mean by inevitability. Statistically overwhelmingly likely?
It is terrible to die of thirst at sea. Must you so salt your truth that it will no longer even slake thirst?
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27478 Posts
August 01 2013 03:05 GMT
#4731
Statistics are irrelevant when it comes to the compatibility and relationship of two people I haven't met. Could be rock solid, could be doomed to fail.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
August 01 2013 03:08 GMT
#4732
On August 01 2013 11:54 IgnE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 03:34 docvoc wrote:
On August 01 2013 03:29 Wombat_NI wrote:
Ah, the one that South Park so gloriously lampooned.

Nah, I think it's a bad idea, for me personally anyway. Sex is kind of a big deal, it's a bad idea to enter into such a commitment without at least testing the waters first.

I'm talking about for my girlfriend who I'll have been with for 2 years in a few months haha. It's not really a "pre-engagement" ring though, it's more like a, "I won't cheat on you in college," ring. I was thinking about getting my girl one.



Waste of money. You will break up in college.


Basically the OP just did this:

+ Show Spoiler +
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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32164 Posts
August 01 2013 04:12 GMT
#4733
On August 01 2013 12:04 IgnE wrote:
Depends what you mean by inevitability. Statistically overwhelmingly likely?

Yeah it is obviously, and I think a promise ring is just kinda silly in general because in a committed relationship you shouldnt need that crap to cement it, but I don't think that means he should just split up if that is what you are implying (idk that you are). Just kinda ride it out and see where it takes you, but be level headed and honest with yourself and don't stick around if it isn't totally fucking 110% awesome because you are missing out on a lot of opportunties to meet other people in college, or learn and grow as a single person.
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Basic Basic
Profile Joined July 2013
Tuvalu52 Posts
August 01 2013 06:32 GMT
#4734
On August 01 2013 11:54 IgnE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 03:34 docvoc wrote:
On August 01 2013 03:29 Wombat_NI wrote:
Ah, the one that South Park so gloriously lampooned.

Nah, I think it's a bad idea, for me personally anyway. Sex is kind of a big deal, it's a bad idea to enter into such a commitment without at least testing the waters first.

I'm talking about for my girlfriend who I'll have been with for 2 years in a few months haha. It's not really a "pre-engagement" ring though, it's more like a, "I won't cheat on you in college," ring. I was thinking about getting my girl one.



Waste of money. You will break up in college.


This one speaks the truth!
High school relationships are laughable. So are college ones for the most part.
Don't whine. Fix it.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27478 Posts
August 01 2013 06:34 GMT
#4735
On August 01 2013 15:32 Basic Basic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 11:54 IgnE wrote:
On August 01 2013 03:34 docvoc wrote:
On August 01 2013 03:29 Wombat_NI wrote:
Ah, the one that South Park so gloriously lampooned.

Nah, I think it's a bad idea, for me personally anyway. Sex is kind of a big deal, it's a bad idea to enter into such a commitment without at least testing the waters first.

I'm talking about for my girlfriend who I'll have been with for 2 years in a few months haha. It's not really a "pre-engagement" ring though, it's more like a, "I won't cheat on you in college," ring. I was thinking about getting my girl one.



Waste of money. You will break up in college.


This one speaks the truth!
High school relationships are laughable. So are college ones for the most part.

Your attitude is laughable. A relationship is as strong or as weak as the compatibility of the two people in it. I was at a wedding earlier today of two friends of mine who've been together since they were 15.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
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rEiGN~
Profile Joined September 2010
369 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-01 21:14:38
August 01 2013 21:13 GMT
#4736
On August 01 2013 07:01 Frumpysnoo wrote:
I'm talking to this really awesome girl, but holy shit I can't help but feel out of my league. There isn't any particular reason, just for some reason I feel like it's inevitable that she's going to not like me or find that I'm not that interesting lol. I don't know if it's a confidence thing, or the fact that I haven't dated a girl in about 3 years and haven't gotten laid for nearly as long. This all stemming from myself, as I left a long-term relationship and I really needed time to just gather myself. What is this, a blog? Jesus..

tl;dr - Has anyone else felt like a girl was out of their league, and how did you overcome this feeling?

I know once (if) our relationship gets to a certain point, I'll feel 100% with her. I just really fucking hate when girls make me nervous..


In my own experience if I don't feel entitled to a certain girl it's not going to work out.
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ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
August 01 2013 21:27 GMT
#4737
On August 02 2013 06:13 rEiGN~ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2013 07:01 Frumpysnoo wrote:
I'm talking to this really awesome girl, but holy shit I can't help but feel out of my league. There isn't any particular reason, just for some reason I feel like it's inevitable that she's going to not like me or find that I'm not that interesting lol. I don't know if it's a confidence thing, or the fact that I haven't dated a girl in about 3 years and haven't gotten laid for nearly as long. This all stemming from myself, as I left a long-term relationship and I really needed time to just gather myself. What is this, a blog? Jesus..

tl;dr - Has anyone else felt like a girl was out of their league, and how did you overcome this feeling?

I know once (if) our relationship gets to a certain point, I'll feel 100% with her. I just really fucking hate when girls make me nervous..


In my own experience if I don't feel entitled to a certain girl it's not going to work out.

ew you feel entitled to women wtf?
BW pros training sc2 is like kiss making a dub step album.
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32164 Posts
August 01 2013 22:41 GMT
#4738
yeah that is a unique choice of words....
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Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5714 Posts
August 01 2013 23:41 GMT
#4739
That feeling when you go to a fair with your girl and you can't win a god damn giant blue gorilla for the life of you.

IM A FAILURE!
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
chadissilent
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1187 Posts
August 01 2013 23:42 GMT
#4740
"Bitch, I deserve you. Now c'mere and suck my dick."
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