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No_Roo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States905 Posts
October 02 2011 20:31 GMT
#221
I watched the video, while the people in it seem to be pretty far from bright, I don't see them actually celebrating anti-intellectualism.
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FarbrorAbavna
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden4856 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-02 20:35:30
October 02 2011 20:33 GMT
#222
I've never heard of this sub-culture before so I know nothing about it beyond what was shown in this video and what was written in op. With that being said...

The word I heard the most in this video was family. Obviously there was alot of swearing and people in general being fucked up but that was the point, letting go of your normal life and just relaxing and having fun. Getting away from everyday life. Even though alot of people were high on something or wasted they all seemed to have a good time and just accepting everyone for who they are. You cant say that about alot of places, not even tl.

So get off your high horse and check yourself and no this event wasnt celebrating being dumb, it was celebrating having something in common which brought people together from all walks of life and enojying each others company.

and regarding the "woop woop"(I think it's woop) it's something you say that bears meaning to them, something about being an ICP fan or whatever. Like shouting out you favorite teams name or whatever when youre at a game. Nothing more nothing less. It's funny how some here can judge others because they are saying something which they themselves dont understand and hence you just assume it's something stupid. There's a word for that.

Yet still you can judge them and call them stupid but think so highly of yourself. That's funny though.
Do you really want chat rooms?
DeepElemBlues
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5079 Posts
October 02 2011 20:36 GMT
#223
Man I thought this thread was going maybe transition from talking about boring bitch-ass Juggalos to something cool like Wooks, but instead it's just all hate on Juggalos (no problem with that) and weird comments from left field about America/capitalism/how humanity makes you sad.

Look guys the job of Daria Morgenderffer has already been filled for all time... trying to be a witty misanthrope isn't what it used to be.
no place i'd rather be than the satellite of love
Hnnngg
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1101 Posts
October 02 2011 20:36 GMT
#224
On October 03 2011 05:31 No_Roo wrote:
I watched the video, while the people in it seem to be pretty far from bright, I don't see them actually celebrating anti-intellectualism.


Not in the movie. Actually check out more than a 20 minute video with information being spoon-fed to you before trying to form an opinion about these retards.

On October 03 2011 05:33 FarbrorAbavna wrote:
I've never heard of this sub-culture before so I know nothing about it beyond what was shown in this video and what was written in op. With that being said...

The word I heard the most in this video was family. Obviously there was alot of swearing and people in general being fucked up but that was the point, letting go of your normal life and just relaxing and having fun. Getting away from everyday life. Even though alot of people were high on something or wasted they all seemed to have a good time and just accepting everyone for who they are. You cant say that about alot of places, not even tl.

So get off your high horse and check yourself and no this event wasnt celebrating being dumb, it was celebrating having something in common which brought people together from all walks of life and enojying each others company.

and regarding the "woop woop"(I think it's woop) it's something you say that bears meaning to them, something about being an ICP fan or whatever. Like shouting out you favorite teams name or whatever when youre at a game. Nothing more nothing less. It's funny how some here can judge others because they are saying something which they themselves dont understand and hence you just assume it's something stupid. There's a word for that.

Yet still you can judge them and call them stupid but think so highly of yourself. That's funny though.


You too.
Thor-axe the Impaler
Profile Joined April 2010
United States331 Posts
October 02 2011 20:37 GMT
#225
That documentary was very well done.

I don't like ICP, I don't like partying, I don't like ludeness or promiscuity, I don't like aggression as a form of expression, but I could actually see myself enjoying that. I'd rather be around down to earth people like that than be with people who are biggots, and need to think their better than everyone else all the time.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
October 02 2011 20:38 GMT
#226
Let me make sure I'm getting this right, anyone who takes drugs/drinks alcohol is distorting their reason and senses is 100% celebrating anti-intellectualism? It just seems like we are assuming by their actions that they hold little responsibility for what they do and think while they are at that carnival place, but that just seems like apathy to me, which is more of sign of immaturity.

Why would I hate these people though?
Together but separate, like oatmeal
Hnnngg
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1101 Posts
October 02 2011 20:38 GMT
#227
On October 03 2011 05:37 Thor-axe the Impaler wrote:
That documentary was very well done.

I don't like ICP, I don't like partying, I don't like ludeness or promiscuity, I don't like aggression as a form of expression, but I could actually see myself enjoying that. I'd rather be around down to earth people like that than be with people who are biggots, and need to think their better than everyone else all the time.


There's a difference between bigots and humanists.
LeSioN
Profile Joined November 2010
United States325 Posts
October 02 2011 20:46 GMT
#228
http://www.vice.com/read/dear-vice-i-got-stoned-by-the-juggalos

an article that tries to show more than just the tip.
Someone needs to tell the truth, but it shouldn't be my job.
Eeevil
Profile Joined May 2008
Netherlands359 Posts
October 02 2011 20:51 GMT
#229
WTF, are we judging people by the way they are when having consumed several liters of alcoholic beverages + other narcotics ?

Is this propaganda of some Australian intellectual nerd think tank or something ?

We are shown a video of an annual gathering of ICP fans who have given themselves the name Juggalo

Then the OP labels them as anti-intellectual and the last time I checked putting the word "anti" in front of a word it means "against" So according to the op, these people are against intellectuals, and they are not, it is not a identifying marker for this Juggalo tribe. Okay, most of them are not from the top 10 universities mentioned a few posts above, but I don't see them engage in book-burnings.

An Australian talking about a waste of space made me lol

But one of the downsides of being smart and intellectually gifted (like most people in this thread.....) is that most people are, and always will be, stupid. Be glad that most of them don't think the apocalypse is coming within their lifetime and horoscopes have any significance....oh wait...

Oh fuck it.....burn all the stupid people, buuurrn them !
Dance like a butterfly, sting like an Intercontinental Ballistic Nuclear Missle.
Silver_Thor
Profile Joined January 2011
United States18 Posts
October 02 2011 20:53 GMT
#230
In all honesty you could take a camcorder to a frat party, rock festival such as Ozzfest, or tailgate parties at a Football game and make a video of pretty much the same sort of activities. Like it or hate it people partying and saying/doing dumb things is part of our society.

As for the attack on Tila Tequila yes it was a bit much but she brought the incident on herself, she was insulting the fans before going on stage, was told not to go on, and refused originally to leave the stage when security asked her to because she wanted to show her boobs off

"Mass murder makes me happy, dead bodies make me happy, say what you will of me i'll always have juggalo family" - Dark Lotus
happyness
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2400 Posts
October 02 2011 20:55 GMT
#231
On October 03 2011 05:36 Hnnngg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2011 05:31 No_Roo wrote:
I watched the video, while the people in it seem to be pretty far from bright, I don't see them actually celebrating anti-intellectualism.


Not in the movie. Actually check out more than a 20 minute video with information being spoon-fed to you before trying to form an opinion about these retards.


Frankly it's a poor OP, because he doesn't give any examples of them "celebrating anti-intellectualism" nor does the video show that.

You're right, though, that nobody should form ignorant opinions. With how little is in the OP just makes this whole discussion pointless and dumb.
Eeevil
Profile Joined May 2008
Netherlands359 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-02 20:58:26
October 02 2011 20:57 GMT
#232
On October 03 2011 05:53 Silver_Thor wrote:
In all honesty you could take a camcorder to a frat party, rock festival such as Ozzfest, or tailgate parties at a Football game and make a video of pretty much the same sort of activities. Like it or hate it people partying and saying/doing dumb things is part of our society.


Good idea, let's see how our beloved BW community does




Dance like a butterfly, sting like an Intercontinental Ballistic Nuclear Missle.
Hnnngg
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1101 Posts
October 02 2011 21:03 GMT
#233
On October 03 2011 05:53 Silver_Thor wrote:
As for the attack on Tila Tequila yes it was a bit much but she brought the incident on herself, she was insulting the fans before going on stage, was told not to go on, and refused originally to leave the stage when security asked her to because she wanted to show her boobs off


So attack her? Right? That makes sense, bring a child up in that environment. We should also hurl our own excrement like apes (oh ha, I already mentioned this) at her. It's all excusable because she insulted us and was told to not go in front of the excrement-hurling apes.

I guess that makes sense, people would tell you it's foolish to jump into a Gorilla habitat at the zoo and expose your breasts and sing like Tila Tequila.

Then again, those people are human and their actions are inexcusable, regardless of how much Tila was warned how populistic those "people" are.
Hnnngg
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1101 Posts
October 02 2011 21:11 GMT
#234
On October 03 2011 05:55 happyness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2011 05:36 Hnnngg wrote:
On October 03 2011 05:31 No_Roo wrote:
I watched the video, while the people in it seem to be pretty far from bright, I don't see them actually celebrating anti-intellectualism.


Not in the movie. Actually check out more than a 20 minute video with information being spoon-fed to you before trying to form an opinion about these retards.


Frankly it's a poor OP, because he doesn't give any examples of them "celebrating anti-intellectualism" nor does the video show that.

You're right, though, that nobody should form ignorant opinions. With how little is in the OP just makes this whole discussion pointless and dumb.


I don't like how reasonable you are.



DeepElemBlues
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5079 Posts
October 02 2011 21:12 GMT
#235
Good idea, let's see how our beloved BW community does


Yeah and you can see the big difference - Juggalos get fucked up to fuck up shit, regular (SC) people get fucked up to say silly things and get fake-mad about the martyrdom culture of the Zerg.
no place i'd rather be than the satellite of love
ICarrotU
Profile Joined February 2011
United States254 Posts
October 02 2011 21:12 GMT
#236
On October 03 2011 06:03 Hnnngg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2011 05:53 Silver_Thor wrote:
As for the attack on Tila Tequila yes it was a bit much but she brought the incident on herself, she was insulting the fans before going on stage, was told not to go on, and refused originally to leave the stage when security asked her to because she wanted to show her boobs off


So attack her? Right? That makes sense, bring a child up in that environment. We should also hurl our own excrement like apes (oh ha, I already mentioned this) at her. It's all excusable because she insulted us and was told to not go in front of the excrement-hurling apes.

I guess that makes sense, people would tell you it's foolish to jump into a Gorilla habitat at the zoo and expose your breasts and sing like Tila Tequila.

Then again, those people are human and their actions are inexcusable, regardless of how much Tila was warned how populistic those "people" are.


You sure sound like you have an axe to grind with juggalos, did they pick on you in school or something?

There's plenty of 'stupid' cultures/groups out there, this isn't special. I wouldn't necessarily say they're celebrating anti-intellectualism, it's not as if a majority of University students don't party just as hard.
As far as I can tell, they seem to be a rather accepting bunch (save for the tila tequila thing, but she knew the risks) for being a bunch of tweakers/alcoholics. In the end, life's just about having a good time and enjoying it, I doubt even 1% of the users of TL have made or will make a significant change in the world for the better, and these juggalos are no different.
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
October 02 2011 21:13 GMT
#237
On October 03 2011 05:33 FarbrorAbavna wrote:
Even though alot of people were high on something or wasted they all seemed to have a good time and just accepting everyone for who they are.


Why on earth would you want to accept everyone for who they are?

I fail to see how that's a positive trait.
DeepElemBlues
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5079 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-02 21:17:39
October 02 2011 21:17 GMT
#238
Why on earth would you want to accept everyone for who they are?

I fail to see how that's a positive trait.


Why on earth would anyone accept anyone as they are, everyone you know has some kind of fucked up shit going on that you would spit nails at them for probably if you knew. Just walk up on everyone and be like "What the fuck fix your shit pussy bitch we all know what I'm talking about." While swinging a lead pipe around.

And then you could be a Juggalo too.
no place i'd rather be than the satellite of love
Hnnngg
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1101 Posts
October 02 2011 21:18 GMT
#239
On October 03 2011 06:12 ICarrotU wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2011 06:03 Hnnngg wrote:
On October 03 2011 05:53 Silver_Thor wrote:
As for the attack on Tila Tequila yes it was a bit much but she brought the incident on herself, she was insulting the fans before going on stage, was told not to go on, and refused originally to leave the stage when security asked her to because she wanted to show her boobs off


So attack her? Right? That makes sense, bring a child up in that environment. We should also hurl our own excrement like apes (oh ha, I already mentioned this) at her. It's all excusable because she insulted us and was told to not go in front of the excrement-hurling apes.

I guess that makes sense, people would tell you it's foolish to jump into a Gorilla habitat at the zoo and expose your breasts and sing like Tila Tequila.

Then again, those people are human and their actions are inexcusable, regardless of how much Tila was warned how populistic those "people" are.


You sure sound like you have an axe to grind with juggalos, did they pick on you in school or something?

There's plenty of 'stupid' cultures/groups out there, this isn't special. I wouldn't necessarily say they're celebrating anti-intellectualism, it's not as if a majority of University students don't party just as hard.
As far as I can tell, they seem to be a rather accepting bunch (save for the tila tequila thing, but she knew the risks) for being a bunch of tweakers/alcoholics. In the end, life's just about having a good time and enjoying it, I doubt even 1% of the users of TL have made or will make a significant change in the world for the better, and these juggalos are no different.


I went to a private school, Juggalo's couldn't afford to get in. Being excessively tolerant doesn't make them angels, it makes them dangerous. There are certain lifestyles that are toxic and should not be acceptable.

It's not about partying, it's about populism, violence, and aggression as well as the lack of vocabulary, syntax, and humanism.

Your doubt about TL members is unwarranted, unscientific and therefore unpublishable.
asdlkj
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
35 Posts
October 02 2011 21:18 GMT
#240
On October 02 2011 21:00 Silidons wrote:
It's no more anti-intellectual than any modern religion, I don't see why this is bad. Yes I went there, but it's the cold hard truth no matter how much it stings. I'm sure many people have had their runs with ICP, even I used to listen to some of their music and enjoy a song here and there for the fun aspect of it, I really don't see why we should care about what they do at their concerts and gatherings though.


Lol atheists are some of the most pathetic human beings out there.

Brb calling religious people idiots who need to stop spreading their belief down my throat, while I non nonchalantly call their holy book a "fairy tale" and constantly start arguments for no reason.
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