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Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
October 02 2011 23:22 GMT
#261
There are an awful lot of people in here under the mistake impression that they are intellectuals.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
Brett
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Australia3820 Posts
October 02 2011 23:29 GMT
#262
On October 03 2011 05:51 Eeevil wrote:
WTF, are we judging people by the way they are when having consumed several liters of alcoholic beverages + other narcotics ?

Is this propaganda of some Australian intellectual nerd think tank or something ?

We are shown a video of an annual gathering of ICP fans who have given themselves the name Juggalo

Then the OP labels them as anti-intellectual and the last time I checked putting the word "anti" in front of a word it means "against" So according to the op, these people are against intellectuals, and they are not, it is not a identifying marker for this Juggalo tribe. Okay, most of them are not from the top 10 universities mentioned a few posts above, but I don't see them engage in book-burnings.

An Australian talking about a waste of space made me lol

But one of the downsides of being smart and intellectually gifted (like most people in this thread.....) is that most people are, and always will be, stupid. Be glad that most of them don't think the apocalypse is coming within their lifetime and horoscopes have any significance....oh wait...

Oh fuck it.....burn all the stupid people, buuurrn them !

This is a fucking stupid post on so many levels. Please try to think your posts through before you blurt them out...
Alabasern
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4005 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-03 00:10:51
October 02 2011 23:30 GMT
#263
This reminds me of my central Minnesotan upbringing...
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Shewklad
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden482 Posts
October 02 2011 23:37 GMT
#264
On October 03 2011 05:51 Eeevil wrote:
WTF, are we judging people by the way they are when having consumed several liters of alcoholic beverages + other narcotics ?


YEAH!! Why are we judging people when they're under the influence of alcohol and several other drugs?! I mean that doesn't make them stupid...


*Looks over at the pregnant woman in the video*
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Eknoid4
Profile Joined October 2010
United States902 Posts
October 02 2011 23:41 GMT
#265
On October 03 2011 03:12 jgoonld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2011 03:08 kammeyer wrote:
On October 03 2011 03:06 nemo14 wrote:
On October 03 2011 02:46 Swwww wrote:
On October 03 2011 01:30 CactusSC2 wrote:
Who are these people bothering? They have a need to belong, so they find people with common interests... Reminds me of everyone else ever... Are you not allowed to make friends unless your IQ is >140?


Shouldn't be allowed to breed more like...

Dude, are you fucking kidding me? How is that AT ALL an okay thing to say?


Because some of us are getting bored of being laughed at as a country.


Yeah, eugenics will definitely make us get viewed more favorably...

At least they wont be laughing.
If you're mad that someone else is brazenly trumpeting their beliefs with ignorance, perhaps you should be mad that you are doing it too.
phosphorylation
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2935 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-02 23:50:32
October 02 2011 23:47 GMT
#266
Don't understand why people hate juggalos. At least according to the docu, they don't hurt anyone and they do their own thing. Seems like hippies without all that pretension and whatnot, which is fine to me.

Let them live their lives
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wonderwall
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
New Zealand695 Posts
October 02 2011 23:51 GMT
#267
That's the nice side of it. They're involved in the drug scene, there are Juggalo gangs and the occasional deaths as a result of gang violence.
Escoffier
Profile Joined May 2010
United States120 Posts
October 02 2011 23:59 GMT
#268
juggalos seem to be extremely homophobic and I've heard some terrible stories about a gang of 5-6 juggalos from my high school going to parties and trying to kill gay guys from school
SlikRin
Profile Joined December 2009
United States25 Posts
October 03 2011 00:03 GMT
#269
On October 03 2011 08:51 wonderwall wrote:
That's the nice side of it. They're involved in the drug scene, there are Juggalo gangs and the occasional deaths as a result of gang violence.


This is the sad truth, their Juggalo experience does not stay within this week of festivities. A guy I grew up with got involved in the Juggalo scene. He just recently got sentenced to twelve years in jail for shooting two kids. If it stayed in their scene that would be one thing, but I guess that could be said about many different social scenes.
Respect the Hive
Suvorov
Profile Joined December 2010
294 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-03 01:24:07
October 03 2011 00:06 GMT
#270
Lmao. Some Top Highlights:

1.- They use the word 'fuck' and 'fucking' soooooo many times, jeez.
2.- The fat guy what spoke like he was a black rapper, that was amusing.
3.- The girl with black teeth was just...bad.
4.- The vulgar rapper rapping about pussy and sex and women. Stitches...beaver... true words of a peot, roflmao.
5.- The girl without eyebrows who could barely speak
6.- The virgin who says he likes to scare people but who wants to get laid but says he can't
7.- Girl topless who says 'titties for a dollar, my boyfriend wrote it' - 'gotta get money for home'


If you label every single aggressive strategy 'cheese', you are officially declaring yourself an incurable mental retard.
spacemonkeyy
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia477 Posts
October 03 2011 00:07 GMT
#271
On October 03 2011 05:51 Eeevil wrote:
WTF, are we judging people by the way they are when having consumed several liters of alcoholic beverages + other narcotics ?

Is this propaganda of some Australian intellectual nerd think tank or something ?

We are shown a video of an annual gathering of ICP fans who have given themselves the name Juggalo

Then the OP labels them as anti-intellectual and the last time I checked putting the word "anti" in front of a word it means "against" So according to the op, these people are against intellectuals, and they are not, it is not a identifying marker for this Juggalo tribe. Okay, most of them are not from the top 10 universities mentioned a few posts above, but I don't see them engage in book-burnings.

An Australian talking about a waste of space made me lol

But one of the downsides of being smart and intellectually gifted (like most people in this thread.....) is that most people are, and always will be, stupid. Be glad that most of them don't think the apocalypse is coming within their lifetime and horoscopes have any significance....oh wait...

Oh fuck it.....burn all the stupid people, buuurrn them !


When writing the OP I thought about not including the word "American" in the title because it would somehow lead to America bashing. I chose to keep it in as it is the title of the documentary but no where in my OP did I even talk about America as a country, I understand when a lot of people are lining up to talk crap you can get defensive about this stuff though.

As for the Juggalos I am as I said in the OP unsure what to think of them and talked about my gut reactions then recognized my prejudice. The thing that gets me and it is not unique to these people are people who are content to sit back and not contribute to society then rely on society to bail them out with handouts. I can sympathize with poverty and poor upbringing but it seems these people (several examples in the video) are making no attempt to get out of the viscous cycle and they too themselves will raise kids likewise (broad generalisation and impossible to truly say just from watching video). There are so many people in this world who would be thankful to live in a developed country like America and would make the most of their opportunities (not unique to America, people in general seem ungrateful and there are deadbeats in all society including my own).
Masq
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1792 Posts
October 03 2011 00:08 GMT
#272
Most of the people they interview are either drunk or stoned, obviously they aren't going to sound very intelligent. It's pretty silly to generalize a whole group of people based off 1 video.
peekn
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States1152 Posts
October 03 2011 00:35 GMT
#273
They are allowed to breed!?

Someone also told me to watch this film, going to tonight.
Oken
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden129 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-03 00:44:07
October 03 2011 00:43 GMT
#274
Well, I can't say that I agree with these people's ideals and what they stand for. Still if they arn't causing other people any harm they should be able to decide for themselves what to do with their lives, however idiotic it may seem to others.

Dragging kids along to these sorts of things seems a bit wrong, to me anyway. They don't always have a choice when it comes down to it.

Like mentioned before, a lot of this is about feeling like you're a part of something, a sense of belonging to something bigger than yourself. Like so many other sub-cultures, movements etc.

Live and let live...
"When Alexander Graham Bell invented the telephone, he had two missing calls from NesTea" - Artosis
SlapMySalami
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1060 Posts
October 03 2011 00:43 GMT
#275
+ Show Spoiler +
On October 02 2011 20:50 spacemonkeyy wrote:
Hi TL, got linked this video tonight and found it a pretty interesting and thought provoking mini documentary about the "American Juggalo"

http://vimeo.com/29589320 --Parts of this video are NSFW - nudity

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Wiki
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Juggalo or Juggalette (the latter being feminine) is a name given to fans of Insane Clown Posse or any other Psychopathic Records hip hop group. Juggalos have developed their own idioms, slang, and characteristics.

Not being an American myself it is the first time I have been exposed to this sort of thing. My first thought is these people are massive bogans and I generally despise people who celebrate the fact they are stupid. I then got thinking it is probably not right just to judge these people because they are so different to me and what I value. To this point I am still not sure what I think about it there are plenty of people I would classify a waste of space that do the same thing (get plastered, act like idiots all the time every weekend), at least these people seem to thrive on good vibes and letting go.

Anyway since most people on TL seem to be the other end of the spectrum to these people I thought it would be interesting to hear their thoughts.


dont worry being an american i still havent heard of the term or the group of people
marineking will u huk my bigtt1 ilu
Documentary
Profile Joined April 2010
United States7 Posts
October 03 2011 00:46 GMT
#276
On October 02 2011 21:16 BrTarolg wrote:
I love how a niche site like TL which generally contains a subculture which is ostracised by a large portion of regular society is able to perform the exact same feat on other societies too

Just because we are a subculture, we don't have to agree with another subculture. Especially one so devoid of self-control.
Supamang
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2298 Posts
October 03 2011 01:05 GMT
#277
its interesting. This thread is kinda like the Bulgarian Riots thread.

Tons of people say "Dont judge them! You dont know them!" while people with actual exposure to them say "Dont lecture me, you dont know them." Its always easier to sit on your high horse spouting morals when you arent actually experiencing it yourself.
Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
October 03 2011 01:13 GMT
#278
the whole good "intellectualism" has brought to human race relies on a miniscule number of individuals.
I don't see how harmless stupidity isn't worth more praise then self-serving intellectualism.
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Shebuha
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada1335 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-03 01:31:04
October 03 2011 01:20 GMT
#279
I apologize for using the terms, but aren't these people just new-wave hippies or something?

@19:17... oh my god... people... sigh.

Mjolnir
Profile Joined January 2009
912 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-03 02:16:36
October 03 2011 01:20 GMT
#280

Moved in the hopes of input from those who know.

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