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On October 03 2011 10:13 Sfydjklm wrote: the whole good "intellectualism" has brought to human race relies on a miniscule number of individuals. I don't see how harmless stupidity isn't worth more praise then self-serving intellectualism. Because harmless stupidity is also useless stupidity. "Self-serving" intellectualism has benefits to everyone.
Intellectualism relies on not just a miniscule number of individuals. Sure there is a relatively small amount of geniuses that create huge breakthroughs, but they still require the help of less intelligent people (though they are still by all means very intelligent people) to get all the work done. They also require a pro-intellectual environment to get the support and funding for their projects. Theres also a lot of seemingly small developments from the R&D departments of corporations that improve our quality of life.
Harmless stupidity doesnt hurt of course, but i really dont see why you would think it would be more praiseworthy than intellectualism of any kind.
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On October 03 2011 10:05 Supamang wrote: its interesting. This thread is kinda like the Bulgarian Riots thread.
Tons of people say "Dont judge them! You dont know them!" while people with actual exposure to them say "Dont lecture me, you dont know them." Its always easier to sit on your high horse spouting morals when you arent actually experiencing it yourself.
This is the same argument many racists make, sometimes the hatred from your experiences or confrontations cloud your better judgement that the actions of a single or few members of a group do not speak for the majority of it and that in the end we are all human.
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On October 03 2011 10:25 Supamang wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2011 10:13 Sfydjklm wrote: the whole good "intellectualism" has brought to human race relies on a miniscule number of individuals. I don't see how harmless stupidity isn't worth more praise then self-serving intellectualism. Because harmless stupidity is also useless stupidity. "Self-serving" intellectualism has benefits to everyone. Intellectualism relies on not just a miniscule number of individuals. Sure there is a relatively small amount of geniuses that create huge breakthroughs, but they still require the help of less intelligent people (though they are still by all means very intelligent people) to get all the work done. They also require a pro-intellectual environment to get the support and funding for their projects. Theres also a lot of seemingly small developments from the R&D departments of corporations that improve our quality of life. Harmless stupidity doesnt hurt of course, but i really dont see why you would think it would be more praiseworthy than intellectualism of any kind. Self serving intellectualism has always done more harm then good. You must've missed the economic collapse it has brought on, or the Fox news channel that it has spawned, amongst other things.
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My two friends (bf and gf) are juggalos, or at least used to be. They have tattoos that are all about it. They live a lifestyle like the juggalos, but do not associate themselves with them any longer. They are really nice, they leave the door open, but they do drugs and drink a lot. They also do not care for others outside their close friends (myself and our group) Overall, I have absolutely no issue with them.
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my friends and i made a "gang" called the clownpunchers just to hassle local juggalos at the park/mall which is apparently where they live.
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On October 03 2011 11:06 hoor3x wrote: my friends and i made a "gang" called the clownpunchers just to hassle local juggalos at the park/mall which is apparently where they live. Why
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Because well, obviously, clowny daggers, y'all.
I broke windows on abandoned houses (well it was just one but whoever owned it DID keep replacing the glass). These days you make a gang to beat up juggalos
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meh. I guess I'm so used to violence happening here in orlando that that wouldn't bother me lol
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I'm from new orleans, it doesn't really bother me either. i just hate those idiots.
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I haven't read this entire thread so forgive me if this has been mentioned already:
Aren't there a few people out there who have suggested that Insane Clown Posse are really just "trolling", and are actually not at all like their stage-personas? I could have sworn I heard it mentioned on some late-night TV or magazine interview that they're "experimenting" with how much control they have over an audience, and how ridiculous they can be and still make cash/retain fans.
I personally can't stand them and think they're fools; but hey, in this day in age, who the hell knows?
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they recently came out saying they were a christian group all along
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Oh. It's another one of those 'america sucks' threads- or at least one that will prompt a lot of it. I get more and more wood thrown on the fire of my own positive stereotypes for many of you day by day.
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On October 02 2011 21:34 Brett wrote: So, I just watched that whole thing, and I really don't know what the point is.
Is it just some excuse for people to eat, drink, take drugs and do stupid stuff to excess?
Oh and to say 'woot woot'... Can't forget that. I want the 20minutes back.
This guys... says it all, i saw nothing but the above in that video
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On October 03 2011 10:52 Sfydjklm wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2011 10:25 Supamang wrote:On October 03 2011 10:13 Sfydjklm wrote: the whole good "intellectualism" has brought to human race relies on a miniscule number of individuals. I don't see how harmless stupidity isn't worth more praise then self-serving intellectualism. Because harmless stupidity is also useless stupidity. "Self-serving" intellectualism has benefits to everyone. Intellectualism relies on not just a miniscule number of individuals. Sure there is a relatively small amount of geniuses that create huge breakthroughs, but they still require the help of less intelligent people (though they are still by all means very intelligent people) to get all the work done. They also require a pro-intellectual environment to get the support and funding for their projects. Theres also a lot of seemingly small developments from the R&D departments of corporations that improve our quality of life. Harmless stupidity doesnt hurt of course, but i really dont see why you would think it would be more praiseworthy than intellectualism of any kind. Self serving intellectualism has always done more harm then good. You must've missed the economic collapse it has brought on, or the Fox news channel that it has spawned, amongst other things.
O.O Intellectualism brought about economic collapse and Fox news?
What is this, I don't even...
How do you even begin to link intellectualism to economic collapse and the living polar opposite of intellectualism, Fox News?
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On October 03 2011 13:44 hummingbird23 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2011 10:52 Sfydjklm wrote:On October 03 2011 10:25 Supamang wrote:On October 03 2011 10:13 Sfydjklm wrote: the whole good "intellectualism" has brought to human race relies on a miniscule number of individuals. I don't see how harmless stupidity isn't worth more praise then self-serving intellectualism. Because harmless stupidity is also useless stupidity. "Self-serving" intellectualism has benefits to everyone. Intellectualism relies on not just a miniscule number of individuals. Sure there is a relatively small amount of geniuses that create huge breakthroughs, but they still require the help of less intelligent people (though they are still by all means very intelligent people) to get all the work done. They also require a pro-intellectual environment to get the support and funding for their projects. Theres also a lot of seemingly small developments from the R&D departments of corporations that improve our quality of life. Harmless stupidity doesnt hurt of course, but i really dont see why you would think it would be more praiseworthy than intellectualism of any kind. Self serving intellectualism has always done more harm then good. You must've missed the economic collapse it has brought on, or the Fox news channel that it has spawned, amongst other things. O.O Intellectualism brought about economic collapse and Fox news? What is this, I don't even... How do you even begin to link intellectualism to economic collapse and the living polar opposite of intellectualism, Fox News?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-serving_bias
Basically faux intellectualism. You can't really be an intellectual and not be objectively self-critical. Or you can and that's self-serving intellectualism.
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we went from clowny daggers to how many angels can fit on the head of a pin pretty quick, gj
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actually it looks like a 4chan get together
I thought ICP died like 5 years ago? Interesting that it's still around. I don't really care there are a lot of stupid people out there, they just seem to be lonely and doing this forms some sort of support group.
I say live and let live, until they start negatively affecting other people.
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I think it should be noted that fighting against intellectualism is the same type of argument as fighting against the pursuit honest government. The only reason anyone would do that is because they found some group to feel part of that hates what has otherwise been a rational and positive influence on any society it has ever occurred to to try.
Every attempt argument is a perversion of the topic and a sideways glance at something using the whole cover perspective of minority rights. As if refusing to have evidence for your claims or to refuse something simply because it's science is some how an "oppressed" minority.
Uneducated, ignorant people have always been a product of negative parts of society. Poverty, segregation, etc. What makes you think that being uneducated is a good thing or as good as being educated in any way?
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Can they say anything without having a swear word, i hate people like these who just swears and swears and swears every sentence.
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