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Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-02 19:29:47
October 02 2011 19:26 GMT
#201
On October 03 2011 04:06 h0oTiS wrote:
I watched this, my friend told me he was laughing historically the whole time at how stupid these ppl were, i just thought the whole thing not just the people were not very smart, why would you shout "wooo woo" every five seconds its something like a meme it just makes them feel better while not helping at all. I read an article about how high self esteem breeds stupidity(not exactly but that was the summary) and i think it was right

High self esteem is crucial for a lot of thing, including progaming. If you look at all the top GSL players Nestea, MC, MVP they all have huge self esteem and egos. What self esteem really does is it allows you to show people who you are rather than hiding behind an image you put up to defend your own low self esteem(for better or worse.) Also from my limited knowledge that most of them( like half in the video) seem to have low self esteem.

The woop woop thing is to feel unity. They may not be the brightest bunch but come on its not because they say 2 words to people in their group to bond with them.
"Can't wait till Monday" Cixah+Waveofshadow. "Needs to be monday. Weekend please go by quickly." Gahlo
Hnnngg
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1101 Posts
October 02 2011 19:32 GMT
#202
I guess white trash is a subculture now.
starbreaker10
Profile Joined June 2011
United States62 Posts
October 02 2011 19:34 GMT
#203
let he who is without sin cast the first stone
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
October 02 2011 19:40 GMT
#204
On October 03 2011 04:34 starbreaker10 wrote:
let he who is without sin cast the first stone

Pretty funny, since people get stoned on stage at juggalo gatherings if the crowd doesn't like them.

Literally.
Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
October 02 2011 19:40 GMT
#205
The ignorance in this thread is surprising. This video is just the tip of the iceberg. These people are detrimental to mankind.
o choro é livre
Slakter
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden1947 Posts
October 02 2011 19:42 GMT
#206
On October 03 2011 04:40 koreasilver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2011 04:34 starbreaker10 wrote:
let he who is without sin cast the first stone

Pretty funny, since people get stoned on stage at juggalo gatherings if the crowd doesn't like them.

Literally.

And they get stoned before they get on stage aswell.

Not literally.
Protoss, can't live with em', can't kill em'.
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-02 20:10:17
October 02 2011 19:44 GMT
#207
On October 03 2011 04:05 koreasilver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2011 03:58 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On October 03 2011 02:39 Eknoid4 wrote:
On October 03 2011 02:26 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Never even this knew subculture existed. Not sure what I feel about it, just seems like a modern spin-off of the hippy movement that reminds me a lot of the civilization in Borderlands. I didn't get a lot of anti-intellectualism from watching the video, but didn't see much intelligence in it either (a nice way to put it).

this is totally not related to any kind of hippy movement.


You kidding? Every other person is talking about family/love/happiness being the most important thing. Did you watch the video?

You are talking about a group of people that pelted people on stage with stones simply because they don't like them. Obviously it is a seriously stupid idea to even consider going on stage for these people if you aren't a ICP related act, but no one ever deserves to receive such violence just for the fact that they weren't liked by the crowd.

Like I said before, there are so many reasons why juggalos deserve to be derided but this video doesn't really show it. Anyone can fucking talk about how family/love/happiness is the most important thing. If you haven't noticed, politicians of every colour and shape talk about these things until their lips dry. Keeping such things on the tip of your tongue doesn't make you a good person. It's about what you do, and far too many juggalos do not act like decent people. Moreover, juggalo communities often not just accept and tolerate, but encourage each other to act in such ways.


Well my analysis of them is derived specifically from the description in the OP, in addition to the video.

Tell me, if all you have to go off of is the video, would the following statement seem wrong in any way?

"just seems like a modern spin-off of the hippy movement"

I wasn't saying they were hippies, but from the video, there are obvious similarities in behavior. You're obviously right that actions speak louder than words, but from the video there was no real display of actions which contradicted the attitude they presented.

Like I said in my first post though, I never even knew they existed before the OP so hearing now that they stone musicians and act in other violent ways, I might not compare them to hippies anymore.

On October 03 2011 04:46 DreamChaser wrote:
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On October 03 2011 04:07 rhmiller907 wrote:
This makes Americans look bad its ok life will grab them by the balls some day and they will be forced to change or fall.


Honestly theres at least 1 thread a day shitting on America, i have basically gotten use to it lol


I don't see how it makes America look bad any more than a captured serial killer in X country makes X country look bad. They're obviously a very small minority and I'm sure I'm not the only American who had no idea they even existed.

People who make such broad generalizations about other groups of people based on minority cases make themselves look bad.
DreamChaser
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
1649 Posts
October 02 2011 19:46 GMT
#208
On October 03 2011 04:07 rhmiller907 wrote:
This makes Americans look bad its ok life will grab them by the balls some day and they will be forced to change or fall.


Honestly theres at least 1 thread a day shitting on America, i have basically gotten use to it lol
Plays against every MU with nexus first.
Hnnngg
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1101 Posts
October 02 2011 19:48 GMT
#209
On October 03 2011 04:44 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2011 04:05 koreasilver wrote:
On October 03 2011 03:58 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On October 03 2011 02:39 Eknoid4 wrote:
On October 03 2011 02:26 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Never even this knew subculture existed. Not sure what I feel about it, just seems like a modern spin-off of the hippy movement that reminds me a lot of the civilization in Borderlands. I didn't get a lot of anti-intellectualism from watching the video, but didn't see much intelligence in it either (a nice way to put it).

this is totally not related to any kind of hippy movement.


You kidding? Every other person is talking about family/love/happiness being the most important thing. Did you watch the video?

You are talking about a group of people that pelted people on stage with stones simply because they don't like them. Obviously it is a seriously stupid idea to even consider going on stage for these people if you aren't a ICP related act, but no one ever deserves to receive such violence just for the fact that they weren't liked by the crowd.

Like I said before, there are so many reasons why juggalos deserve to be derided but this video doesn't really show it. Anyone can fucking talk about how family/love/happiness is the most important thing. If you haven't noticed, politicians of every colour and shape talk about these things until their lips dry. Keeping such things on the tip of your tongue doesn't make you a good person. It's about what you do, and far too many juggalos do not act like decent people. Moreover, juggalo communities often not just accept and tolerate, but encourage each other to act in such ways.


Well my analysis of them is derived specifically from the description in the OP, in addition to the video.

Tell me, if all you have to go off of is the video, would the following statement seem wrong in any way?

"just seems like a modern spin-off of the hippy movement"

I wasn't saying they were hippies, but from the video, there are obvious similarities in behavior. You're obviously right that actions speak louder than words, but from the video there was no real display of actions which contradicted the attitude they presented.


They also have obvious similarities in behavior to large apes, but they're still technically humans (somehow).
askTeivospy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1525 Posts
October 02 2011 19:51 GMT
#210
On October 02 2011 20:59 heishe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 20:56 Supamang wrote:
"Fucking magnets, how do they work?"

not surprised at all at this.

And no, it is completely ok for you to judge them for celebrating stupidity. If you cant judge people for being willingly *insert negative characteristic*, when would anyone be allowed to judge anything?


Exactly. There are a couple of things in the world which are objectively bad for the human race and life in general. Stupidity is beyond the shadow of a doubt one of them.


another thing thats objectively bad are holier-than-thou people
hihihi
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-02 19:53:32
October 02 2011 19:52 GMT
#211
On October 03 2011 04:48 Hnnngg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2011 04:44 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On October 03 2011 04:05 koreasilver wrote:
On October 03 2011 03:58 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On October 03 2011 02:39 Eknoid4 wrote:
On October 03 2011 02:26 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Never even this knew subculture existed. Not sure what I feel about it, just seems like a modern spin-off of the hippy movement that reminds me a lot of the civilization in Borderlands. I didn't get a lot of anti-intellectualism from watching the video, but didn't see much intelligence in it either (a nice way to put it).

this is totally not related to any kind of hippy movement.


You kidding? Every other person is talking about family/love/happiness being the most important thing. Did you watch the video?

You are talking about a group of people that pelted people on stage with stones simply because they don't like them. Obviously it is a seriously stupid idea to even consider going on stage for these people if you aren't a ICP related act, but no one ever deserves to receive such violence just for the fact that they weren't liked by the crowd.

Like I said before, there are so many reasons why juggalos deserve to be derided but this video doesn't really show it. Anyone can fucking talk about how family/love/happiness is the most important thing. If you haven't noticed, politicians of every colour and shape talk about these things until their lips dry. Keeping such things on the tip of your tongue doesn't make you a good person. It's about what you do, and far too many juggalos do not act like decent people. Moreover, juggalo communities often not just accept and tolerate, but encourage each other to act in such ways.


Well my analysis of them is derived specifically from the description in the OP, in addition to the video.

Tell me, if all you have to go off of is the video, would the following statement seem wrong in any way?

"just seems like a modern spin-off of the hippy movement"

I wasn't saying they were hippies, but from the video, there are obvious similarities in behavior. You're obviously right that actions speak louder than words, but from the video there was no real display of actions which contradicted the attitude they presented.


They also have obvious similarities in behavior to large apes, but they're still technically humans (somehow).


They could probably learn how to play Starcraft if they were forced to, an Ape couldn't. That's how they are still technically humans xD (yes, the defining trait of humanity is the capacity to understand the basics of starcraft)
Hnnngg
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1101 Posts
October 02 2011 19:58 GMT
#212
On October 03 2011 04:52 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2011 04:48 Hnnngg wrote:
On October 03 2011 04:44 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On October 03 2011 04:05 koreasilver wrote:
On October 03 2011 03:58 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On October 03 2011 02:39 Eknoid4 wrote:
On October 03 2011 02:26 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Never even this knew subculture existed. Not sure what I feel about it, just seems like a modern spin-off of the hippy movement that reminds me a lot of the civilization in Borderlands. I didn't get a lot of anti-intellectualism from watching the video, but didn't see much intelligence in it either (a nice way to put it).

this is totally not related to any kind of hippy movement.


You kidding? Every other person is talking about family/love/happiness being the most important thing. Did you watch the video?

You are talking about a group of people that pelted people on stage with stones simply because they don't like them. Obviously it is a seriously stupid idea to even consider going on stage for these people if you aren't a ICP related act, but no one ever deserves to receive such violence just for the fact that they weren't liked by the crowd.

Like I said before, there are so many reasons why juggalos deserve to be derided but this video doesn't really show it. Anyone can fucking talk about how family/love/happiness is the most important thing. If you haven't noticed, politicians of every colour and shape talk about these things until their lips dry. Keeping such things on the tip of your tongue doesn't make you a good person. It's about what you do, and far too many juggalos do not act like decent people. Moreover, juggalo communities often not just accept and tolerate, but encourage each other to act in such ways.


Well my analysis of them is derived specifically from the description in the OP, in addition to the video.

Tell me, if all you have to go off of is the video, would the following statement seem wrong in any way?

"just seems like a modern spin-off of the hippy movement"

I wasn't saying they were hippies, but from the video, there are obvious similarities in behavior. You're obviously right that actions speak louder than words, but from the video there was no real display of actions which contradicted the attitude they presented.


They also have obvious similarities in behavior to large apes, but they're still technically humans (somehow).


They could probably learn how to play Starcraft if they were forced to, an Ape couldn't. That's how they are still technically humans xD (yes, the defining trait of humanity is the capacity to understand the basics of starcraft)


You know what... Somebody should start a Juggalo Star League where people train Juggalos to try to play SC2. They'd be an auxiliary team member that would only be able to compete in Juggalo events however.
wonderwall
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
New Zealand695 Posts
October 02 2011 20:01 GMT
#213
Seem like decent people. Keep in mind everyone you see in that video is almost definitely fucked out of their mind on something.
happyness
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2400 Posts
October 02 2011 20:02 GMT
#214
My first thought is these people are massive bogans and I generally despise people who celebrate the fact they are stupid.


Do they even know they are acting stupid though? I'm sorry I don't know anything about this sub-culture, and the video nor the op shows how they are being willfully ignorant(though I couldn't watch the whole video, sorry). Some people are just born stupid, and how can you fault them for that? Yes, most of them probably fried their brains with drugs, but again, we don't know their background so it's not our place to judge.
pwnasaurus1
Profile Joined February 2011
18 Posts
October 02 2011 20:04 GMT
#215
On October 02 2011 21:13 Azera wrote:
As a Chinese guy looking at this, I think this is pretty stupid and such nonsense is why America has such a bad rep of being a cesspool of stupidity amongst some of my friends.


This is just dumb. 10 of the top 13 universities in the world are in US. The 3 others are in the UK. Complete cesspool.
Kamais_Ookin
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada4218 Posts
October 02 2011 20:08 GMT
#216
Jugallo's are sick fucks.

I dare anyone to play a drinking game for every time one of them say the word "fuck" and I guarantee you will die.
I <3 Plexa.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
October 02 2011 20:10 GMT
#217
On October 03 2011 05:08 Kamais_Ookin wrote:
Jugallo's are sick fucks.

I dare anyone to play a drinking game for every time one of them say the word "fuck" and I guarantee you will die.


Or motherfucker. Felt bad when they interviewed the women who was 6months pregnant..

fucking idiots. T_T
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
TheVoice88
Profile Joined August 2011
Norway23 Posts
October 02 2011 20:11 GMT
#218
Don't really see the point of this...
Drowsy
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States4876 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-02 20:17:20
October 02 2011 20:16 GMT
#219
On October 03 2011 04:34 starbreaker10 wrote:
let he who is without sin cast the first stone



I really don't have a problem with Juggalos. ICP fans are rarely missionary zealots trying to convert people and ICP isn't blared over the radio in public places. I think I've known about 3 people who were fans of this band. They were all tall fat white guys, but fairly well adjusted and un-abrasive people. Obviously I'm sure there's some assholes who like ICP out there, but ICP's fans/music has yet to cause me any grief or annoyance. If those two things are met, I don't really care what they listen to or what their subculture is.

The Katy Perry/Lady Gaga asshole dickfaces, on the other hand, I do have a beef with. 75%+ I dislike strongly as human beings.
Our Protoss, Who art in Aiur HongUn be Thy name; Thy stalker come, Thy will be blunk, on ladder as it is in Micro Tourny. Give us this win in our daily ladder, and forgive us our cheeses, As we forgive those who play zerg against us.
FishFuzz99
Profile Joined February 2010
United States152 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-02 20:29:07
October 02 2011 20:28 GMT
#220
There have been killings connected with these people, and they are classified as a gang in 4 states. Being fans of a band is one thing...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juggalo
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