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On October 02 2011 12:48 darkscream wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2011 06:45 Letho wrote:
Paul is unelectable and not a conservative. And yeah, i'm canadian so I can't vote, but I know what kind of neighbours i like to see in the south. It makes me sad that american politics gets so stagnant because of the 2party system, but this time around I think we're seeing some real independent ideas start to creep into the debates.. I'd love to see someone elected fix the american dollar, as its declining value vs our dollar really affects Canadian exports. I don't really see anyone but Ron Paul actually fixing that.
In total pessimistic honesty, its more like a 1 party system. At least it sure feels that way at times.
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he's not gotten the treatment of a front runner yet.. just wait a few weeks until all his little secrets start popping out.. he's not gonna last.. besides, half of the repub base will never vote for a black man for president.. in a way, they want to get rid of Obama because he's half black too.
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Herman Cain's a cool guy.
I don't think I want him to be President.
But he's black so that's probably racist...
Herman Cain 2012?
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He's a reasonably smart man who can handle himself in front of a camera pretty good but how would he be at being the executive?
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On October 02 2011 12:51 Mysticesper wrote:
In total pessimistic honesty, its more like a 1 party system. At least it sure feels that way at times.
yeah, i totally agree with that, but there's a lot people who actually believe in the left/right paradigm. I think being involved in politics in other countries helps you see it more clearly.. though I understand why a lot of Americans don't/can't be skeptical of their own political system.
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What a biggot how could anyone think this person is remotely capable of being the president. The last thing we need is a outspoken muslim basher as president.
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On October 02 2011 06:45 Letho wrote:
Paul is unelectable and not a conservative.
What?
Ron Paul is the only conservative running for president, and he was conservative before it was cool to pretend to be conservative.
If you're complaint is that he isn't a neo-con then okay. But neo-conservatism is not very conservative.
Herman Cain is pretty conservative in most departments, and he is growing on me with his charming personality. But we have a thread for this anyway...
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=255487
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When i read the title i thought this was going to be a post about some new NPC in diablo 3.
I dont really have an opinion on This herman cain
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On October 02 2011 12:58 darkscream wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2011 12:51 Mysticesper wrote:
In total pessimistic honesty, its more like a 1 party system. At least it sure feels that way at times. yeah, i totally agree with that, but there's a lot people who actually believe in the left/right paradigm. I think being involved in politics in other countries helps you see it more clearly.. though I understand why a lot of Americans don't/can't be skeptical of their own political system.
Well idk about the one party thing...for sure though that once candidates get into office they tend to be more moderate than they appear during their campaign.
Just saying but I really dont think Cain is going to be that electable for the Republican party. Chances of him beating Obama are pretty low...he isnt really gonna have any moderate appeal during the general election lol. Also, flat tax rate is extremely unpopular amongst party politicians not because it isnt effective (in fact it would be less costly on the government to just institute a flat tax) but because politicians like to play with tax rates to help their own base. Also the fact that he isn't a politician doesn't really appeal. I mean yeah he may not be a politician, but in that sense he's even deeper in the corporation's interests than politicians already are -_-. Also in the modern day world with so many high risk interactions with other powerful countries like China and Russia having a completely inexperienced politician wouldn't exactly help.
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I don't get how someone would ever vote for someone like that, America could really do with some more time without a muslim hating ultra right wing nutter in charge
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What?
Ron Paul is the only conservative running for president, and he was conservative before it was cool to pretend to be conservative.
If you're complaint is that he isn't a neo-con then okay. But neo-conservatism is not very conservative.
Anyone claiming to be the one true voice of patriotism and the constitution is probably not.
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This guys a complete dipshit. The only thing thing that doesn't get him laughed out of the political arena is that you're forced to compare him to the rest of the awful awful republicans in this race.
His ideas aren't good, and he'd probably ban Islam in America if he could.
Not to mention he's totally unelectable by Republicans because he's black.
Huntsman would make the best president out of this entire bunch, despite being a republican. However he actually sounds like a smart rational person, so theres absolutely no way republicans would ever vote for him.
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On October 02 2011 13:16 Russano wrote:
This guys a complete dipshit. The only thing thing that doesn't get him laughed out of the political arena is that you're forced to compare him to the rest of the awful awful republicans in this race.
His ideas aren't good, and he'd probably ban Islam in America if he could.
Not to mention he's totally unelectable by Republicans because he's black.
Huntsman would make the best president out of this entire bunch, despite being a republican. However he actually sounds like a smart rational person, so theres absolutely no way republicans would ever vote for him.
So let me make sure I got all of this...
Republicans are racist, Republicans are irrational, and Republicans are stupid, and the Republican candidates are awful. Oh, and Herman Cain is a dipshit.
You know, you sound a little too sensible and moderate. Get some convictions and partisan fervor in you! lol...
On October 02 2011 13:21 cz wrote:
How'd OP get banned?
From the ban thread, it looks like he was a previously banned user.
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Why are people afraid of a lay person becoming president? That is the way our system is supposed to work. As if Obama had any real-world experience. W barely had some.
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On October 02 2011 12:41 pyaar wrote:Show nested quote +"And based upon the little knowledge that I have of the Muslim religion, you know, they have an objective to convert all infidels or kill them," Cain said.
It's disheartening.
Did someone tell you that the Quran says otherwise?
It definitely has parts which, if construed literally, require the killing of non-believers.
Quran: 4.89, 9.5, 9.123
Obviously the vast majority of Muslims don't want anything to do with this, and do not interpret it in this way. That said, I took a 4th year Philosophy course on Courage. To be courageous in the Quran is to be fully dedicated to Allah. This dedication to Allah, if interpreted literally, may require killing others based solely on their non-belief.
They're called muslim "extremists" for a reason...wouldn't surprise me if at least some of these extremists adopted this interpretation of the Quran.
If in that quote Cain was generalizing to all Muslims...well, thats just faulty.
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On October 02 2011 13:22 jdseemoreglass wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2011 13:16 Russano wrote:
This guys a complete dipshit. The only thing thing that doesn't get him laughed out of the political arena is that you're forced to compare him to the rest of the awful awful republicans in this race.
His ideas aren't good, and he'd probably ban Islam in America if he could.
Not to mention he's totally unelectable by Republicans because he's black.
Huntsman would make the best president out of this entire bunch, despite being a republican. However he actually sounds like a smart rational person, so theres absolutely no way republicans would ever vote for him. So let me make sure I got all of this... Republicans are racist, Republicans are irrational, and Republicans are stupid, and the Republican candidates are awful. Oh, and Herman Cain is a dipshit. You know, you sound a little too sensible and moderate. Get some convictions and partisan fervor in you! lol... From the ban thread, it looks like he was a previously banned user.
No, these republicans are. Bachman, Perry, and Cain are all bigoted twats. The republican party as a whole isn't racist, but they sure as hell wouldn't vote in a black or islamic president.
Ron Paul just plain isn't popular enough, some of his ideas are absolutley spot on and sound, while others are completely insane, he at least has proper convictions and ideas that don't get sidetracked by the Tea Party
Huntsman and Romney are clearly the only decent candidates they have, and you know your party is totally fucked when the people you are making look sane are the Mormons. Romney's probably got the best shot of actually being the nomination, despite Republicans constantly scrambling for the "Not Romney" candidate, be it Perry, Bachman, Christie, or whomever.
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On October 02 2011 13:27 Gnial wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2011 12:41 pyaar wrote:"And based upon the little knowledge that I have of the Muslim religion, you know, they have an objective to convert all infidels or kill them," Cain said.
It's disheartening. Did someone tell you that the Quran says otherwise? It definitely has parts which, if construed literally, require the killing of non-believers. Quran: 4.89, 9.5, 9.123 Obviously the vast majority of Muslims don't want anything to do with this, and do not interpret it in this way. That said, I took a 4th year Philosophy course on Courage. To be courageous in the Quran is to be fully dedicated to Allah. This dedication to Allah, if interpreted literally, may require killing others based solely on their non-belief. They're called muslim "extremists" for a reason...wouldn't surprise me if at least some of these extremists adopted this interpretation of the Quran.
So does the bible
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What's your point? Defending that a religion is batshit by saying another accepted religion is as batshit, doesn't make the first religion any less crazy. It just makes them both crazy.
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To be fair... he could give a pizza to every person in Idaho and win the nomination!
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I just find it amusing that a country as full of christian nutjobs as the states complains about the dangerous messages present in the Quran..
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