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no doubt this is quite an odd situation that the cops are not helping, but you're nuts if you don't think surrounding the cops would escalate this because the cops will absolutely be forced to act there
it's pretty fucked because the cops since the shitty macing have been just mostly observing, outside a few isolated incidents, because shit, I'd want the cops there so there's not rioting and looting. they werent prepared to have the people take over the bridge
On October 02 2011 06:09 ryanAnger wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2011 06:01 CurLy[] wrote:On October 02 2011 05:54 Hawk wrote:On October 02 2011 05:39 CurLy[] wrote:
I would love to see half the protestors go on the brooklyn side of the bridge and just surround the cops. that would be awesome Yes brilliant. Try to phsyically intimidate the cops so they're forced to do something. That's how you turn a peaceful protest into something really nasty for no reason at all Anyway I was mostly joking but did I say anything Physical? Pretty sure the first amendment allows for freedom of assembly in order to petition the government, yet children are being arrested equipment is being seized... They are making it pretty nasty already It could be a lot worse. And the pessimist in me thinks it *will* get worse, but the optimist in me thinks that after the first cop shoots a protester the rest of the country will be up in arms, and we might actually be able to get shit done.
a cop shooting someone wrongfully would unite people against the response to the police treatment, not necessarily the myriad of different things that are being protestsed at this point.
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Legal notice apparently being handed out,
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On October 02 2011 03:50 CurLy[] wrote:"I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class thug for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism." -LtGen Smedley Butler, USMC Pretty much... http://www.livestream.com/globalrevolutionIts getting pretty big... thousands of protestors came out
That quote is 75 years old.
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On October 01 2011 08:11 Pesto wrote:
Looks like the demonstration has been coopted from corporate government to the issue of police brutality. I guess MSNBC did it's job.
Media doesn't report on police violence:
omg corporate media is a whore for the police, they remain silent as they beat us!
Media reports on police violence:
Good job msnbc, you corporate sluts, you coopted the rise of the people and turned it into police brutality.
Making stuff up as we go along just gotta make sure that no matter how we spin it we end up hating:
1) Teh government
2) Teh media
3) Teh corporations
A march against dishonesty, that's something we could have a use for.
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On October 02 2011 05:39 CurLy[] wrote:
I would love to see half the protestors go on the brooklyn side of the bridge and just surround the cops. that would be awesome
SCV surround lets go!!
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hm, i guess this isn't news to the media.
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For what it's worth the NYPD just strengthened the protesters by arresting what appeared to be a kid. I'm sure that will piss a lot of people off.
Notice in the stream that the Police have video cameras filming.
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On October 02 2011 06:28 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
For what it's worth the NYPD just strengthened the protesters by arresting what appeared to be a kid. I'm sure that will piss a lot of people off.
Notice in the stream that the Police have video cameras filming.
Yeah I think they smartened up after that macing and are covering their own asses going forward
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Image of NYTimes before and after the article was edited by a (former?) cop who works for the Times.
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On October 02 2011 06:17 zalz wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2011 08:11 Pesto wrote:
Looks like the demonstration has been coopted from corporate government to the issue of police brutality. I guess MSNBC did it's job. Media doesn't report on police violence: omg corporate media is a whore for the police, they remain silent as they beat us! Media reports on police violence: Good job msnbc, you corporate sluts, you coopted the rise of the people and turned it into police brutality. Making stuff up as we go along just gotta make sure that no matter how we spin it we end up hating: 1) Teh government 2) Teh media 3) Teh corporations A march against dishonesty, that's something we could have a use for.
Either you are just dumping my remarks in with some other shit you heard from someone else or you are putting words in my mouth. Either way you are the one being dishonest.
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They got my support against corruption and paid off politicians. But I don't know how effective the protest is going to be since they don't have one strong message and there can be cointelpro taking the protests and turning them into a special interest serving thing, which obviously is not.
So they need to get a strong message out and not get cointelpro.
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Be strong protesters. This thing is gaining momentum. Though obviously noone in power wants to touch the issue or acknowledge it exists it's real and more important then anyone realizes.
I encourage everyone to spread the word, casually, or as much as they can. An easy effective way is by posting on good occupy link on your facebook or writing a representative [(lol) but supposedly they are supposed to represent you]. There are a lot of non-redditor/non-tl types out there and they don't even know this important movement for social&political change is happening; help them find out.
See you in #occupychicago.
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Most people are in this movement because life is not living up to their grand expectations. Every kid these days is raised to think they are special, and they are *NOT*. Multiply that by millions of youth, add years of poor parenting fads, and you end up with people whining about their own horrible life choices. The most hilarious part of this is they don't even realize how embarrassed they should be. Yeah the USA needs fixes, but most of the fixes wouldn't help any of these people. They are suffering from terrible choices and no government can protect you from yourself.
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If this escalates I will consider returning to America.
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On October 02 2011 14:03 David451 wrote:
Most people are in this movement because life is not living up to their grand expectations. Every kid these days is raised to think they are special, and they are *NOT*. Multiply that by millions of youth, add years of poor parenting fads, and you end up with people whining about their own horrible life choices. The most hilarious part of this is they don't even realize how embarrassed they should be. Yeah the USA needs fixes, but most of the fixes wouldn't help any of these people. They are suffering from terrible choices and no government can protect you from yourself.
You do know that people thinking they're special isn't a recent phenomena right? The idea of American exceptionalism has existed since the 1800s.
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I just can't reiterate enough how stupid this protest is. Every time I open up a new article I see stupid ass shit.
The many disconnected causes is one issue I've mentioned before. It comes up again in this article:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/americas/more-than-700-wall-street-protesters-arrested-on-brooklyn-bridge/article2187731/
"About 700 protesters demonstrating against corporate greed, global warming and social inequality, among other grievances.."
Global warming now? *facepalm* They need better focus - targeted protesting. Not this 'catch-all' protest.
And of course, here is the quote from one of the arrested. Is anyone else surprised its a retarded university student trying to get out of paying back her student loans? In the worst financial crisis in decades, if not centuries, no less.
Erin Larkins, a Columbia University graduate student who says she and her boyfriend have significant student loan debt, was among the thousands of protesters on the bridge. She said a friend persuaded her to join the march and she’s glad she did.
“I don’t think we’re asking for much, just to wake up every morning not worrying whether we can pay the rent, or whether our next meal will be rice and beans again,” Ms. Larkins wrote in an e-mail to The Associated Press. “No one is expecting immediate change. I think everyone is just hopeful that people will wake up a bit and realize that the more we speak up, the more the people that do have the authority to make changes in this world listen.”
Oh yeah, you're not asking for much...only for the country to adopt a degree of socialism that will not only house everyone for free, but give everyone free gourmet meals for dinner and pay for advanced education (in her case, probably a degree in one of these: http://www.toptenz.net/to-10-useless-college-classes-degrees.php + Show Spoiler + Although I have to give more credit to Philosophy degrees than they do... and a little bit more credit to Art History and Golf Management degrees than they do
Why should anyone ever have to work, right? Wouldn't it be great if we could do leisure activities or personal development activities (that don't benefit anyone else) all day?
At the very least, for her sake, I'm glad that she's glad. At least she isn't both retarded and miserable.
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On October 02 2011 12:15 ryanAnger wrote:Image of NYTimes before and after the article was edited by a (former?) cop who works for the Times.
They were allowed on the bridge if they stayed in the pedestrian walk way.
They didn't once they got on the bridge.
Simple, and accurate, answer to your "alleged" cover up.
It even says roadway on the second image...
This is why smart people consider this protest stupid. Because the people supporting it are stupid.
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