• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 20:00
CET 02:00
KST 10:00
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!12[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
Weekly Cups (Oct 26 - Nov 1): MaxPax, herO, Solar win0Weekly Cups (October 19-25): Clem triples first in 5.0.175Evil Geniuses - shutting down23ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier7Weekly Cups (October 12-18): 5.0.17 era begins1
StarCraft 2
General
[D] Hacker peak in sc2 ? No more SC2 streamers on team liquid? Username Change Request - Toxickej Kapr Liquibets sc2 season 30 Evil Geniuses - shutting down
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament WardiTV Mondays ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
Starcraft 2 Advance [D] the control group Simple Questions/Answers [G] How to playtest arcade maps
External Content
Mutation # 550 Graveyard Shift The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 549 Endless Sparkles Mutation # 548 Shining Bright
Brood War
General
SC4ALL II Brood War Complete Invited Player Lineup Rollback Netcode in Brood War BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Sagi.gg Launcher Released Top Players of October 2026 (EBPD Rankings)
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4 [Mixed-Gender CK] Rush+4 vs Best+4 [BSL23] RO24 Group F - Sunday 21:00 CET
Strategy
50,000-Word Terran Builds Memo 2026-10-22 Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Deus Ex 3!? Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Mobile Legends: Bang Bang Armies of Exigo - YesYes?
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine The Chess Thread
Fan Clubs
Fan Club Resource Thread Reynor Fan Club The Flash Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Why I built Repalyzer (1.1.…
BlueStar
Innovate or Game Over?
TrAiDoS
ShieldBattery on Mac
Kraekkling
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 20228 users

Best/Strongest Superhero - Page 37

Forum Index > General Forum
Post a Reply
Prev 1 35 36 37 38 39 Next All
scarper65
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
1560 Posts
September 14 2011 23:00 GMT
#721
Isn't Captain Marvel actually stronger than superman? I think that he is physically equal to superman but he also has magic powers, including a thunderbolt that was able to go fast enough to hit flash
lorkac
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2297 Posts
September 14 2011 23:01 GMT
#722
On September 15 2011 07:55 Soulish wrote:
When you guys talked about flash I thought you meant... you know... Flash


Wait, I'm confused.

Are talking the fastest man in existence who embodies one of the fundamental forces of the universe?

Or are you talking about Wally?
By the truth we are undone. Life is a dream. Tis waking that kills us. He who robs us of our dreams robs us of our life --Orlando: A Biography
lorkac
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2297 Posts
September 14 2011 23:05 GMT
#723
On September 15 2011 08:00 scarper65 wrote:
Isn't Captain Marvel actually stronger than superman? I think that he is physically equal to superman but he also has magic powers, including a thunderbolt that was able to go fast enough to hit flash


This is why thing like these are fun. Since there is evidence that both your statements are true. YOU have to argue which of the contradicting evidence is the most true.

For example--Batman beat superman in Dark Knight Returns with a combination of supersonic sound waves, kryptonite and old fashion ass-kicking only sparing superman by faking his own death.

Does that mean Batman > Superman?

Because someone else finds evidence somewhere else and so on and so forth and the fun times continue

For example, at some points Hulk's strength is merely understood as "the strongest" and at some points it's very very specific like when he has to use two hands to throw a bus, or when he can't even outmatch Ultron.

The game is taking all these contradictions and weave it into something interesting and "truthy"
By the truth we are undone. Life is a dream. Tis waking that kills us. He who robs us of our dreams robs us of our life --Orlando: A Biography
scarper65
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
1560 Posts
September 15 2011 04:45 GMT
#724
Is there anyone that can move as fast or faster than flash? If not then I don't see how he can possibly be defeated
lorkac
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2297 Posts
September 15 2011 06:09 GMT
#725
On September 15 2011 13:45 scarper65 wrote:
Is there anyone that can move as fast or faster than flash? If not then I don't see how he can possibly be defeated


Move faster?

Lots of characters are omnipresent. Flash moves somewhere? Too late, Supermanprime is already there and has always been there.

As for speed alone? Silver Surfer moves as fast and possibly faster. (This is where a lot of the arguments come from)

There is no one faster (at moving) than flash in the DC universe. But when you mix in multiple canons together, superheroes and villains start bumping into each other's turf of "best at ______"

And that's what makes it fun.
By the truth we are undone. Life is a dream. Tis waking that kills us. He who robs us of our dreams robs us of our life --Orlando: A Biography
17Sphynx17
Profile Joined September 2011
580 Posts
September 15 2011 06:14 GMT
#726
Finally managed to read properly about Superman Prime and not Superboy Prime. And as for his abilities WOW!
http://superman.wikia.com/wiki/Superman_Prime
excerpt "Superman Prime is the second most powerful being that has ever existed in the DC multiverse only surpassed by The Presence."

Flash may be the fastest from a point of measure of A-B but then Prime can theoretically disrupt/warp reality between A-B thereby removing flashes "measureable" speed advantage.

Was an exciting read about superman prime.
17Sphynx17
Profile Joined September 2011
580 Posts
September 15 2011 07:07 GMT
#727
About the comparison between Thor and Hulk, I took this excerpt out from wikia

"While the Hulk was intended to be the physically strongest character in Marvel, Stan Lee admitted that the creation of Thor was to make a character who was "stronger than the Hulk, and smarter than Reed Richards, in a godly wisdom aspect." The subject over which titular hero is the strongest is the source of many debates between comic book fans."

http://marvel.wikia.com/Robert_Bruce_Banner_(Earth-616)
OhYess
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada41 Posts
September 15 2011 07:28 GMT
#728
1. Exodia

Uhh... He auto wins as soon as he shows up. ;D
RPR_Tempest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia7799 Posts
September 15 2011 07:36 GMT
#729
On September 15 2011 05:27 FabledIntegral wrote:
[image loading]

Goku beats Superman.

You've got to be kidding me. That says Superman can only lift 100 tons.

Well, nope. Superman can lift 200 quadrillion tons with one arm. Meanwhile, Base Goku was struggling with 40 tons in the Buu Saga.
Soundwave, Zerg player from Canberra, Australia. @SoundwaveSC
17Sphynx17
Profile Joined September 2011
580 Posts
September 15 2011 09:22 GMT
#730
On September 15 2011 16:36 RPR_Tempest wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2011 05:27 FabledIntegral wrote:
[image loading]

Goku beats Superman.

You've got to be kidding me. That says Superman can only lift 100 tons.

Well, nope. Superman can lift 200 quadrillion tons with one arm. Meanwhile, Base Goku was struggling with 40 tons in the Buu Saga.


They didn't know about All Star Superman so they used what they knew to compare it.

Going by that logic, if you also look at how they "analyzed" Hulk, he was being compared with how many tonnage they could lift (per persona type) yet there are conflicting descriptions as the writer does try to be as creative with the character as best they can.

But hands down, Goku, especially the DBZ universe Goku, is no match for the heroes we are bringing up in this "supposed" common universe we are trying to setup for them.
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
September 15 2011 09:27 GMT
#731
favorite super hero is Vegeta.

strongest super hero is Vegeta.
Poffel
Profile Joined March 2011
471 Posts
September 15 2011 15:16 GMT
#732
The tournament continues...

What has happened so far (based on majority votes for the outcome of each battle)?

Ro16
(A) Doctor Manhattan < Goku
Doctor Manhattan states that he does not intend to fight Goku, but unfortunately it will be inevitable. Goku makes a dumb face and accepts the challenge. When the fight actually starts, Manhatten throws pseudo-philosophical bullshit at Goku, while Goku charges up his Kamehameha for a few dozen episodes. Goku vaporizes Manhattan, not that it matter much. Slightly confused, Goku turns blonde, at which point Manhattan realizes that Chi consists of tachyons (yinions and yangiongs, to be precise), his only one weakness. While Goku is preparing his second attack, Manhattan leaves to the end of the universe to gain metaphysical insight into the true nature of existence, so Goku wins by forfeit.

(B) The Batman < Hulk

Banner tries to get away from the fighting scene as far as possible, and Bruce Wayne sponsors him a flight to the north pole. However, in an unfortunate turn of events... *cough* *cough* *cough* ... and when the fight actually starts, Hulk wreaks havoc to the whole city. The Batman confronts him, disguised as Betty, rolls Hulk to his back and starts fondling his belly until he turns into Banner. Then, Banner concedes defeat and tries to get away from the fighting scene as far as possible, and Bruce Wayne sponsors him a flight to the north pole... rinse and repeat, until the Hulk finally gets a blow in against the Batman.

(C) Flash < Mighty Thor
Thor swirls Mjolnir at the speed of thought against the Flash. Barry sidesteps those slow-motion attacks ans hits Thor a couple thousand times, before he picks him up to carry him to the end of the universe. Thor lays down Mjolnir and holds on to its handle's loop, which turns him into an unmovable object for the Flash. A slightly confused Barry still manages to dodge some God Blasts and Thermo Blasts from Thor, before Thor uses the powers of Gaea to engulf Flash's shoes. The Flash vibrates himself free and outruns a few dozen thunderbolts Thor has thrown at him. When Barry starts running around Thor to create a tornado, Thor takes control of said tornado to throw the Flash into the air. Without traction, the Flash can only stare while Thor uses Mjolnir to create Anti-Force, draining the Flash's Speed Force. Then, Thor casually walks over to Barry and gently nudges his face with Mjolnir, knocking him unconscious.

(D) Superman < Silver Surfer

The battle of soliloquies starts. Am I humane? Too humane? Not humane enough? How much is left of the original [Norrin/Kal-El] after me becoming [Galactus' herold/the man of steel]? Must fight him. Must not endanger innocents. Must not repeat the events on [Zenn-La/Krypton]. Must... stop... thinking like a robot. Eventually, the Surfer is the first one to leave emo-stage and blasts Superman across town. Superman realizes that, surprisingly, the Power Cosmic gets past his invulnerability, so he mans up himself. After the usual cardboard speech, Supes punches the Surfer through a few dozen buildings, at which point we get the usual "Neither Hulk nor Thor hit that hard."-introspect from the Surfer. A battle of cosmic proportions ensues. Eventually, a severly battered and bruised Silver Surfer teleports Superman to the place of the cosmos where he will do the most good which, incidentally, is the village Mirik in Azerbaijan, from which Superman will not return until the end of the tournament.

(E) Sentry > Doctor Strange
Steven Strange steps out of a dimensional portal behind the Sentry and vaporizes him with a force blast. Then, while Sentry reassembles himself (in a couple of seconds), Doctor Strange draws a magic circle around him and banishes him into nothingness. When Sentry gets back (a few seconds later), Doctor Strange uses an illusion to show Sentry what would happen if he'd unleash all his powers, completely stunning the Sentry (for a few seconds). Then, Doctor Strange conjures half a dozen demons to fight the Sentry, and a battle of Biblical proportions proceeds (in the next few seconds). Afterwards, the Sentry batters Steven Strange into submission with his own shoes.

(F) Wonder Woman < Jean Grey
Wonder Woman ferociously attacks Jean Grey with a flurry of devastating blows until Jean snaps and inadvertently consumes the life force of everybody within the city (including Wonder Woman's). In the aftermath of this destruction, we see Jean Grey blankly staring at the liveless husk of her opponent; slowly she begins to realize what she has done, and eventually she suffers a complete emotional breakdown.

(G) Green Lantern < Spawn

Spawn tries to assassinate Green Lantern with a crossbow shooting yellow arrows made of wood. However, despite all odds, Green Lantern survives and starts to beat Spawn up real bad, all the while appealing to Spawn's good side, and trying to make him realize that he hasn't to obey Malebolgia... Spawn does not stand a chance until he taps into the powers of hell to teleport inside Green Lantern to "play alien".

(H) Captain Marvel > Lobo

Lobo cheats and kills Captain Marvel during the preparation week. Then Lobo gets disqualified from the tournament, and Captain Marvel is declared winner at his funeral.

So, now we're at:

Ro8
(I) Goku vs. Hulk
(J) Mighty Thor vs. Silver Surfer
(K) Sentry vs. Jean Grey
(L) Spawn walkover

Semifinals
(M) winner I vs. winner J
(N) winner K vs. winner L

Finals
(O) winner M vs. winner N
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-15 15:36:21
September 15 2011 15:29 GMT
#733
Haha Flash doesn't need traction to move. He literally ran along time itself before. The only reason he ever needs to run along the ground is when he's limiting himself to actual normal human running -- which you can't do considering you're giving Thor his absolute strongest Odin Force endowed abilities.

Also I like how people are saying anyone can be as fast or faster than Flash. Flash is whatever fastness you can go. The entire concept is embodied in him. You can't move faster than him because, that speed that you are going IS him, and he can go faster than it.

Also someone brought up Captain Cold earlier: Well, yeah, lots of super heroes in older comics have fought pretty underwhelming dudes. Flash also beat superboy prime and the anti-life equation because "goes fast."
Remember Violet.
UndercoverNerd
Profile Joined May 2011
88 Posts
September 15 2011 15:31 GMT
#734
(A) Doctor Manhattan < Goku
Doctor Manhattan states that he does not intend to fight Goku, but unfortunately it will be inevitable. Goku makes a dumb face and accepts the challenge. When the fight actually starts, Manhatten throws pseudo-philosophical bullshit at Goku, while Goku charges up his Kamehameha for a few dozen episodes. Goku vaporizes Manhattan, not that it matter much. Slightly confused, Goku turns blonde, at which point Manhattan realizes that Chi consists of tachyons (yinions and yangiongs, to be precise), his only one weakness. While Goku is preparing his second attack, Manhattan leaves to the end of the universe to gain metaphysical insight into the true nature of existence, so Goku wins by forfeit.


(B) The Batman < Hulk
Banner tries to get away from the fighting scene as far as possible, and Bruce Wayne sponsors him a flight to the north pole. However, in an unfortunate turn of events... *cough* *cough* *cough* ... and when the fight actually starts, Hulk wreaks havoc to the whole city. The Batman confronts him, disguised as Betty, rolls Hulk to his back and starts fondling his belly until he turns into Banner. Then, Banner concedes defeat and tries to get away from the fighting scene as far as possible, and Bruce Wayne sponsors him a flight to the north pole... rinse and repeat, until the Hulk finally gets a blow in against the Batman.


Srry, but this is the biggest bullshit in this thread Ive seen so far...
hurr gurr.
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
September 15 2011 15:33 GMT
#735
Wolverine is the strongest, but only when backed up by Akuma's Tatsu assist.
Follow me: www.twitter.com/zlasher
Poffel
Profile Joined March 2011
471 Posts
September 15 2011 15:43 GMT
#736
On September 16 2011 00:29 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Haha Flash doesn't need traction to move. He literally ran along time itself before.

Admittedly, DC has been very inconsistent with the speedster's powers. However, in the fight between the different incarnations of the Flash and the Reverse-Flash in The Flash: Rebirth (2009, can't remeber which issue, but it's towards the end of the mini-series, so probably no. 5 or 6), a speedster without traction is shown to be a sitting duck, unable to defend himself even against an attack travelling only at the speed of sound.
soverRR
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden348 Posts
September 15 2011 19:08 GMT
#737
On September 15 2011 05:27 FabledIntegral wrote:
[image loading]

Goku beats Superman.


He says that Goku with training beats superman. Superman with training is SupermanPrime. I rest my case.
Evangelist
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
1246 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-15 21:00:50
September 15 2011 20:57 GMT
#738
Goku. Both my favourite and the strongest. I mean he came back from the dead to punch a guy beating his son in the face. Note, I'm mostly referring to the original, Japanese Goku who genuinely is lovely, not SEAN SCHEMMEL who suffers from terminal constipation.

Not only is he a lovely, simple guy and obscenely stronger than pretty much everyone, but he's also a decent father too.
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
September 15 2011 21:27 GMT
#739
Well propably some omnipotent guy, like Dr. Manhattan, Thor, Superman Prime or something.
Though I fancy the concept of Goku just raging his way through cosmic destruction and magic bolts, lolol.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
RPR_Tempest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia7799 Posts
September 16 2011 06:55 GMT
#740
On September 16 2011 05:57 Evangelist wrote:
Goku. Both my favourite and the strongest. I mean he came back from the dead to punch a guy beating his son in the face. Note, I'm mostly referring to the original, Japanese Goku who genuinely is lovely, not SEAN SCHEMMEL who suffers from terminal constipation.

Not only is he a lovely, simple guy and obscenely stronger than pretty much everyone, but he's also a decent father too.

He also sounds like a little girl.

Also, Goku isn't the strongest. Sorry.
Soundwave, Zerg player from Canberra, Australia. @SoundwaveSC
Prev 1 35 36 37 38 39 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
OSC
08:00
OSC Elite Rising Star #21
CranKy Ducklings84
CranKy Ducklings SOOP16
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Nathanias 117
SpeCial 48
StarCraft: Brood War
Rain 3737
GuemChi 2605
Artosis 553
Leta 134
ProTech116
Dota 2
monkeys_forever667
PGG 195
League of Legends
Doublelift5276
JimRising 581
Counter-Strike
fl0m1048
taco 197
jkaem56
Super Smash Bros
PPMD34
Other Games
summit1g7987
singsing1556
Coldzera 901
Day[9].tv738
shahzam466
XaKoH 306
C9.Mang0253
PiGStarcraft217
byalli129
Maynarde66
NeuroSwarm65
ViBE64
Fuzer 41
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV147
Counter-Strike
PGL105
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 13
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• davetesta17
• musti20045 15
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Laughngamez YouTube
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Other Games
• Day9tv738
Upcoming Events
IntoTheTV X SOOP
1d 10h
Reynor vs Solar
ByuN vs SHIN
Clem vs MaxPax
herO vs Rogue
IPSL
1d 16h
WorsT vs nOmaD
Dewalt vs andersOn
AI Arena Tournament
1d 18h
IntoTheTV X SOOP
2 days
IPSL
2 days
Azhi_Dahaki vs ggnore13
Double vs WIZARD
Replay Cast
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
WardiTV Invitational
4 days
YoungYakov vs Lambo
SHIN vs TBD
Percival vs Shameless
Solar vs TBD
PiGosaur Cup
5 days
[ Show More ]
The PondCast
6 days
KCM Race Survival
6 days
WardiTV Invitational
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-11-04
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HCC Season 3

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
International ShieldBattery League
BSL Season 23
IPSL Winter 2026-27
Calamity Cup Div. A Season 8
IEM Beijing 2026
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026

Upcoming

Sector 951
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Underdog Cup 2026 Div 2-3
PGL Bucharest 2027
BLAST Bounty Winter 2027
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.