BTW, I support Ron Paul and what is the deal about the interview cutting out... it makes all of us supporters look like fools. I think people are just frustrated about the lack of coverage for Paul and are taking it out on this. Technical difficulties happen often, and this is no different.
On January 05 2012 12:15 bOneSeven wrote: Alex Jones is a crazy guy ( but imo , get in that field and try to keep yourself 100% sane , I believe it's impossible ) and most of you completely discard him , however I couldn't find the video alone ( tbh I don't really feel like searching for it because I may simply not find it , I never browsed trough CNN shows ) so here it is ... Just watch 1:04-1:50 from this video http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6c8LyUeGC8&feature=player_detailpage ---- Coincidence or deisgn ? Ron Paul getting ZERO support from any media ..
Obviously design. I don't watch any tv, movie, or show without attempting to see what underlying themes and messages are that are being conveyed. If you don't, you're just letting groups and people who's only intent is to control you and help you spend your money program your mind.
I really don't get how SO many people can be wild conspiracy theorists in this thread.
CNN lost a satellite feed during an interview with a Ron Paul supporter: MUST have been them pulling the plug, OBVIOUS.
Two days ago in this thread: If Ron Paul doesn't come in first place in Iowa, MUST be vote fraud, NO other answer.
And lets not forget yesterday and Mr '9-11 was computer controlled, US government planned attacks to get us into the middle east.
No one offers ANY proof at all, ZERO. ZERO. Is this thread/site really breaking down into a crackpot conspiracy theory core?
What is next? JFK? Moon? Did the US let Pearl Harbor happen on purpose?
If you're making a claim that is wildly offensive or different than what the majority believes, you need to offer something to back it up.
P.S. Or is asking someone to back up a wild accusation with anything at all asking too much?
Here, do some homework. Validate YOUR claim. Here is the fact. A Ron Paul supporter was cut off. You come in saying, oh poo hoo. It's 2011 or 2012 or whatever. Shit happens. However, you could easily educate yourself by taking the initiative and googling what tends to cut out satellite feeds. Was it weather? Google the weather conditions. Judging by how well satellite tv works, it'd probably have to be something pretty noticeable. Perhaps swamp gas from a weather balloon was trapped in a thermal pocket and reflected the light from Venus... interrupting the satellite feed.
I have my view, and I don't really want to waste my time trying to change yours. Perhaps, you could ask yourself why you are making excuses for a major media outlet? My point of view is that reality is likely a whole lot more fucking complicated than what is shown on major news outlets. If it isn't, what did I lose?
However, I bet that JFK is on the moon since pearl harbor, happening on purpose.
Any number of things can interrupt satelite feeds, and it is far more common then you think. Even if there was not bad weather in the place the up-link was located, there could have been bad weather on the down-link. Most satellite communication systems operate with a very thin margin. Increased solar radiation, assorted atmospheric effects(especially around dusk), and most importantly rain on the downlink can and will cause a link to go down.
The systems are designed to have anywhere between 99-99.99% availability with local weather effects on the downlink(its assumed you can just increase uplink power), but if you do the math, 99.9% availability is around an hour and a half of downtime a year.
Any glance at a sattelite communications textbook will tell you this, but you know, its a lot easier to invent conspiracies.
Hey, have you ever watched satellite going in and out? It looks like digital distortion. Every time.
What does this video look like when it cuts out? A fake analog signal. You do know that the video traveling up the screen like that is caused by ANALOG syncing, right? Argue with me on this one, please.
That particular soldier is actually under investigation for breaching military protocol:
Military employees are not allowed to speak out on political issues while wearing their uniform. Which makes sense.
ROFL
You guys are advocatin free speak over anything.. But suddenly when some guy wears a uniform it's diffrent? Are you serious?
You can blatantly lie about the Holocaust and preach total bullshit lies that insult entire communites/countreis/religions but you can't give your polticial opinion while wearing the us-uniform?
On January 05 2012 23:12 koreasilver wrote: When most of the Ron Paul supporters in this thread are conspiracy theorists and propagandists, it becomes more and more difficult to take his campaign seriously.
Moral decay and hatred, the two things I think about whenever I see how republican crowds behave.
On January 05 2012 12:15 bOneSeven wrote: Alex Jones is a crazy guy ( but imo , get in that field and try to keep yourself 100% sane , I believe it's impossible ) and most of you completely discard him , however I couldn't find the video alone ( tbh I don't really feel like searching for it because I may simply not find it , I never browsed trough CNN shows ) so here it is ... Just watch 1:04-1:50 from this video http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6c8LyUeGC8&feature=player_detailpage ---- Coincidence or deisgn ? Ron Paul getting ZERO support from any media ..
Obviously design. I don't watch any tv, movie, or show without attempting to see what underlying themes and messages are that are being conveyed. If you don't, you're just letting groups and people who's only intent is to control you and help you spend your money program your mind.
I really don't get how SO many people can be wild conspiracy theorists in this thread.
CNN lost a satellite feed during an interview with a Ron Paul supporter: MUST have been them pulling the plug, OBVIOUS.
Two days ago in this thread: If Ron Paul doesn't come in first place in Iowa, MUST be vote fraud, NO other answer.
And lets not forget yesterday and Mr '9-11 was computer controlled, US government planned attacks to get us into the middle east.
No one offers ANY proof at all, ZERO. ZERO. Is this thread/site really breaking down into a crackpot conspiracy theory core?
What is next? JFK? Moon? Did the US let Pearl Harbor happen on purpose?
If you're making a claim that is wildly offensive or different than what the majority believes, you need to offer something to back it up.
P.S. Or is asking someone to back up a wild accusation with anything at all asking too much?
Here, do some homework. Validate YOUR claim. Here is the fact. A Ron Paul supporter was cut off. You come in saying, oh poo hoo. It's 2011 or 2012 or whatever. Shit happens. However, you could easily educate yourself by taking the initiative and googling what tends to cut out satellite feeds. Was it weather? Google the weather conditions. Judging by how well satellite tv works, it'd probably have to be something pretty noticeable. Perhaps swamp gas from a weather balloon was trapped in a thermal pocket and reflected the light from Venus... interrupting the satellite feed.
I have my view, and I don't really want to waste my time trying to change yours. Perhaps, you could ask yourself why you are making excuses for a major media outlet? My point of view is that reality is likely a whole lot more fucking complicated than what is shown on major news outlets. If it isn't, what did I lose?
However, I bet that JFK is on the moon since pearl harbor, happening on purpose.
Any number of things can interrupt satelite feeds, and it is far more common then you think. Even if there was not bad weather in the place the up-link was located, there could have been bad weather on the down-link. Most satellite communication systems operate with a very thin margin. Increased solar radiation, assorted atmospheric effects(especially around dusk), and most importantly rain on the downlink can and will cause a link to go down.
The systems are designed to have anywhere between 99-99.99% availability with local weather effects on the downlink(its assumed you can just increase uplink power), but if you do the math, 99.9% availability is around an hour and a half of downtime a year.
Any glance at a sattelite communications textbook will tell you this, but you know, its a lot easier to invent conspiracies.
Hey, have you ever watched satellite going in and out? It looks like digital distortion. Every time.
What does this video look like when it cuts out? A fake analog signal. You do know that the video traveling up the screen like that is caused by ANALOG syncing, right? Argue with me on this one, please.
That particular soldier is actually under investigation for breaching military protocol:
Military employees are not allowed to speak out on political issues while wearing their uniform. Which makes sense.
ROFL
You guys are advocatin free speak over anything.. But suddenly when some guy wears a uniform it's diffrent? Are you serious?
You can blatantly lie about the Holocaust and preach total bullshit lies that insult entire communites/countreis/religions but you can't give your polticial opinion while wearing the us-uniform?
fucking lol.
It's the same thing as any employer - you can have free speech, but if they don't like it they can fire you. In this case it's bit murkier since he's employed by the government, but it's still the same principle.
On January 05 2012 12:15 bOneSeven wrote: Alex Jones is a crazy guy ( but imo , get in that field and try to keep yourself 100% sane , I believe it's impossible ) and most of you completely discard him , however I couldn't find the video alone ( tbh I don't really feel like searching for it because I may simply not find it , I never browsed trough CNN shows ) so here it is ... Just watch 1:04-1:50 from this video http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6c8LyUeGC8&feature=player_detailpage ---- Coincidence or deisgn ? Ron Paul getting ZERO support from any media ..
Obviously design. I don't watch any tv, movie, or show without attempting to see what underlying themes and messages are that are being conveyed. If you don't, you're just letting groups and people who's only intent is to control you and help you spend your money program your mind.
I really don't get how SO many people can be wild conspiracy theorists in this thread.
CNN lost a satellite feed during an interview with a Ron Paul supporter: MUST have been them pulling the plug, OBVIOUS.
Two days ago in this thread: If Ron Paul doesn't come in first place in Iowa, MUST be vote fraud, NO other answer.
And lets not forget yesterday and Mr '9-11 was computer controlled, US government planned attacks to get us into the middle east.
No one offers ANY proof at all, ZERO. ZERO. Is this thread/site really breaking down into a crackpot conspiracy theory core?
What is next? JFK? Moon? Did the US let Pearl Harbor happen on purpose?
If you're making a claim that is wildly offensive or different than what the majority believes, you need to offer something to back it up.
P.S. Or is asking someone to back up a wild accusation with anything at all asking too much?
Here, do some homework. Validate YOUR claim. Here is the fact. A Ron Paul supporter was cut off. You come in saying, oh poo hoo. It's 2011 or 2012 or whatever. Shit happens. However, you could easily educate yourself by taking the initiative and googling what tends to cut out satellite feeds. Was it weather? Google the weather conditions. Judging by how well satellite tv works, it'd probably have to be something pretty noticeable. Perhaps swamp gas from a weather balloon was trapped in a thermal pocket and reflected the light from Venus... interrupting the satellite feed.
I have my view, and I don't really want to waste my time trying to change yours. Perhaps, you could ask yourself why you are making excuses for a major media outlet? My point of view is that reality is likely a whole lot more fucking complicated than what is shown on major news outlets. If it isn't, what did I lose?
However, I bet that JFK is on the moon since pearl harbor, happening on purpose.
Any number of things can interrupt satelite feeds, and it is far more common then you think. Even if there was not bad weather in the place the up-link was located, there could have been bad weather on the down-link. Most satellite communication systems operate with a very thin margin. Increased solar radiation, assorted atmospheric effects(especially around dusk), and most importantly rain on the downlink can and will cause a link to go down.
The systems are designed to have anywhere between 99-99.99% availability with local weather effects on the downlink(its assumed you can just increase uplink power), but if you do the math, 99.9% availability is around an hour and a half of downtime a year.
Any glance at a sattelite communications textbook will tell you this, but you know, its a lot easier to invent conspiracies.
Hey, have you ever watched satellite going in and out? It looks like digital distortion. Every time.
What does this video look like when it cuts out? A fake analog signal. You do know that the video traveling up the screen like that is caused by ANALOG syncing, right? Argue with me on this one, please.
That particular soldier is actually under investigation for breaching military protocol:
Military employees are not allowed to speak out on political issues while wearing their uniform. Which makes sense.
ROFL
You guys are advocatin free speak over anything.. But suddenly when some guy wears a uniform it's diffrent? Are you serious?
You can blatantly lie about the Holocaust and preach total bullshit lies that insult entire communites/countreis/religions but you can't give your polticial opinion while wearing the us-uniform?
fucking lol.
It's the same thing as any employer - you can have free speech, but if they don't like it they can fire you. In this case it's bit murkier since he's employed by the government, but it's still the same principle.
In most European countries your employer wouldn't have the right to fire you for saying something he doesn't like without paying you compensation, unless it could be considered as an offense (in France: faute grave). Now the military is a very special thing and derogates to most of these rules, for obvious reasons.
Biff , in that video Dr Paul simply said people should be responsible about their choices . The crowd is kind of aggressive, sure , but the allways has at least 1 guy who screams out stupid shit. If I choose to climb on top of mount Everest I take a risk of dying . If I choose not to buy insurance , I risk death in case of complications unless I go to a private hospital .
Since when personal responsibility is looked down upon ?
On January 05 2012 12:15 bOneSeven wrote: Alex Jones is a crazy guy ( but imo , get in that field and try to keep yourself 100% sane , I believe it's impossible ) and most of you completely discard him , however I couldn't find the video alone ( tbh I don't really feel like searching for it because I may simply not find it , I never browsed trough CNN shows ) so here it is ... Just watch 1:04-1:50 from this video http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6c8LyUeGC8&feature=player_detailpage ---- Coincidence or deisgn ? Ron Paul getting ZERO support from any media ..
Obviously design. I don't watch any tv, movie, or show without attempting to see what underlying themes and messages are that are being conveyed. If you don't, you're just letting groups and people who's only intent is to control you and help you spend your money program your mind.
I really don't get how SO many people can be wild conspiracy theorists in this thread.
CNN lost a satellite feed during an interview with a Ron Paul supporter: MUST have been them pulling the plug, OBVIOUS.
Two days ago in this thread: If Ron Paul doesn't come in first place in Iowa, MUST be vote fraud, NO other answer.
And lets not forget yesterday and Mr '9-11 was computer controlled, US government planned attacks to get us into the middle east.
No one offers ANY proof at all, ZERO. ZERO. Is this thread/site really breaking down into a crackpot conspiracy theory core?
What is next? JFK? Moon? Did the US let Pearl Harbor happen on purpose?
If you're making a claim that is wildly offensive or different than what the majority believes, you need to offer something to back it up.
P.S. Or is asking someone to back up a wild accusation with anything at all asking too much?
Here, do some homework. Validate YOUR claim. Here is the fact. A Ron Paul supporter was cut off. You come in saying, oh poo hoo. It's 2011 or 2012 or whatever. Shit happens. However, you could easily educate yourself by taking the initiative and googling what tends to cut out satellite feeds. Was it weather? Google the weather conditions. Judging by how well satellite tv works, it'd probably have to be something pretty noticeable. Perhaps swamp gas from a weather balloon was trapped in a thermal pocket and reflected the light from Venus... interrupting the satellite feed.
I have my view, and I don't really want to waste my time trying to change yours. Perhaps, you could ask yourself why you are making excuses for a major media outlet? My point of view is that reality is likely a whole lot more fucking complicated than what is shown on major news outlets. If it isn't, what did I lose?
However, I bet that JFK is on the moon since pearl harbor, happening on purpose.
Any number of things can interrupt satelite feeds, and it is far more common then you think. Even if there was not bad weather in the place the up-link was located, there could have been bad weather on the down-link. Most satellite communication systems operate with a very thin margin. Increased solar radiation, assorted atmospheric effects(especially around dusk), and most importantly rain on the downlink can and will cause a link to go down.
The systems are designed to have anywhere between 99-99.99% availability with local weather effects on the downlink(its assumed you can just increase uplink power), but if you do the math, 99.9% availability is around an hour and a half of downtime a year.
Any glance at a sattelite communications textbook will tell you this, but you know, its a lot easier to invent conspiracies.
Hey, have you ever watched satellite going in and out? It looks like digital distortion. Every time.
What does this video look like when it cuts out? A fake analog signal. You do know that the video traveling up the screen like that is caused by ANALOG syncing, right? Argue with me on this one, please.
That particular soldier is actually under investigation for breaching military protocol:
Military employees are not allowed to speak out on political issues while wearing their uniform. Which makes sense.
ROFL
You guys are advocatin free speak over anything.. But suddenly when some guy wears a uniform it's diffrent? Are you serious?
You can blatantly lie about the Holocaust and preach total bullshit lies that insult entire communites/countreis/religions but you can't give your polticial opinion while wearing the us-uniform?
fucking lol.
It's the same thing as any employer - you can have free speech, but if they don't like it they can fire you. In this case it's bit murkier since he's employed by the government, but it's still the same principle.
In most European countries your employer wouldn't have the right to fire you for saying something he doesn't like without paying you compensation, unless it could be considered as an offense (in France: faute grave). Now the military is a very special thing and derogates to most of these rules, for obvious reasons.
I'm sure if you have a contract of something you will be compensated as it requires, but I doubt a McDonalds employ is going to get any direct compensation for being fired because he supports pot reform. They'd probably be able to get unemployment benefits though.
On January 05 2012 23:36 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On January 05 2012 23:31 Myles wrote:
On January 05 2012 23:21 Velr wrote:
On January 05 2012 22:54 Serthius wrote:
On January 05 2012 13:54 NtroP wrote:
On January 05 2012 13:42 InvalidID wrote:
On January 05 2012 13:08 NtroP wrote:
On January 05 2012 12:43 Saryph wrote:
On January 05 2012 12:30 NtroP wrote: [quote]
Obviously design. I don't watch any tv, movie, or show without attempting to see what underlying themes and messages are that are being conveyed. If you don't, you're just letting groups and people who's only intent is to control you and help you spend your money program your mind.
I really don't get how SO many people can be wild conspiracy theorists in this thread.
CNN lost a satellite feed during an interview with a Ron Paul supporter: MUST have been them pulling the plug, OBVIOUS.
Two days ago in this thread: If Ron Paul doesn't come in first place in Iowa, MUST be vote fraud, NO other answer.
And lets not forget yesterday and Mr '9-11 was computer controlled, US government planned attacks to get us into the middle east.
No one offers ANY proof at all, ZERO. ZERO. Is this thread/site really breaking down into a crackpot conspiracy theory core?
What is next? JFK? Moon? Did the US let Pearl Harbor happen on purpose?
If you're making a claim that is wildly offensive or different than what the majority believes, you need to offer something to back it up.
P.S. Or is asking someone to back up a wild accusation with anything at all asking too much?
Here, do some homework. Validate YOUR claim. Here is the fact. A Ron Paul supporter was cut off. You come in saying, oh poo hoo. It's 2011 or 2012 or whatever. Shit happens. However, you could easily educate yourself by taking the initiative and googling what tends to cut out satellite feeds. Was it weather? Google the weather conditions. Judging by how well satellite tv works, it'd probably have to be something pretty noticeable. Perhaps swamp gas from a weather balloon was trapped in a thermal pocket and reflected the light from Venus... interrupting the satellite feed.
I have my view, and I don't really want to waste my time trying to change yours. Perhaps, you could ask yourself why you are making excuses for a major media outlet? My point of view is that reality is likely a whole lot more fucking complicated than what is shown on major news outlets. If it isn't, what did I lose?
However, I bet that JFK is on the moon since pearl harbor, happening on purpose.
Any number of things can interrupt satelite feeds, and it is far more common then you think. Even if there was not bad weather in the place the up-link was located, there could have been bad weather on the down-link. Most satellite communication systems operate with a very thin margin. Increased solar radiation, assorted atmospheric effects(especially around dusk), and most importantly rain on the downlink can and will cause a link to go down.
The systems are designed to have anywhere between 99-99.99% availability with local weather effects on the downlink(its assumed you can just increase uplink power), but if you do the math, 99.9% availability is around an hour and a half of downtime a year.
Any glance at a sattelite communications textbook will tell you this, but you know, its a lot easier to invent conspiracies.
Hey, have you ever watched satellite going in and out? It looks like digital distortion. Every time.
What does this video look like when it cuts out? A fake analog signal. You do know that the video traveling up the screen like that is caused by ANALOG syncing, right? Argue with me on this one, please.
That particular soldier is actually under investigation for breaching military protocol:
Military employees are not allowed to speak out on political issues while wearing their uniform. Which makes sense.
ROFL
You guys are advocatin free speak over anything.. But suddenly when some guy wears a uniform it's diffrent? Are you serious?
You can blatantly lie about the Holocaust and preach total bullshit lies that insult entire communites/countreis/religions but you can't give your polticial opinion while wearing the us-uniform?
fucking lol.
It's the same thing as any employer - you can have free speech, but if they don't like it they can fire you. In this case it's bit murkier since he's employed by the government, but it's still the same principle.
In most European countries your employer wouldn't have the right to fire you for saying something he doesn't like without paying you compensation, unless it could be considered as an offense (in France: faute grave). Now the military is a very special thing and derogates to most of these rules, for obvious reasons.
I'm sure if you have a contract of something you will be compensated as it requires, but I doubt a McDonalds employ is going to get any direct compensation for being fired because he supports pot reform. They'd probably be able to get unemployment benefits though.
He would.
You have the right to support pot reform and expressing an opinion that doesn't hurt anybody (it's not racist / homophobic / sexist etc...) can't be considered as a faute grave (serious offense, the only way to fire someone without compensation). If he is under a permanent contract, he would get very big compensation for being fired without a reason, Mc Donald's or not.
In France, employees are protected against abuses of their employer by very strict and severe legislation.
On January 05 2012 22:50 bOneSeven wrote: lol guys , I can't believe I found so much resistance by my post . Since Dr Paul's campaign he has been mocked , ignored and crap talked by all the major news outlets . An honorable US soldier supporting him would go against the past actions of CNN for example . WOW , is it not logical that it would happen ? Just put 2 and 2 together and you have your result . You don't have to be a conspiracy nut to say : hmmm most people are frustrated , and even tho some people completely disagree Ron Paul and think of him as an extremist , some people would pick him because they lost the faith in the status quo , and who knows mb now they want to pick him . His ideas goes against the status quo , and we all know the major news outlets do 95% of their works ONLY for profit , I mean it makes sense rofl , TV is business , you need money .... Come on guys this has nothing to do with conspiracies , It's major news outlets past activites+this action = makes complete sense. It follows a pattern.
About to one who accused me of 9/11 stuff What I've said is backed 100% by proofs and official documents , now if you are just like those fundamentalist religion people who bash people who against your beliefs , that's your problem.They went out of their way to refute all the other 9/11 truthers evidence blabla , but this one they didn't start because they know they have nothing real to start on. This piece of evidence is completely irrefutable but this is not the place to talk about it because it's not the topic and etc + anyways I didn't started it , some dude accused other guys of being conspiracy nuts(wasn't even me) and posting a sarcastic picture
No, there is NOTHING "logical" about claiming that CNN deliberately tried to censor the soldier in question for supporting Ron Paul. It was quite obviously technical difficulties. Why the hell would they try to censor someone for supporting Ron Paul when they're IN HIS HEADQUARTERS interviewing RON PAUL SUPPORTERS?
On January 05 2012 23:36 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On January 05 2012 23:31 Myles wrote:
On January 05 2012 23:21 Velr wrote:
On January 05 2012 22:54 Serthius wrote:
On January 05 2012 13:54 NtroP wrote:
On January 05 2012 13:42 InvalidID wrote:
On January 05 2012 13:08 NtroP wrote:
On January 05 2012 12:43 Saryph wrote: [quote]
I really don't get how SO many people can be wild conspiracy theorists in this thread.
CNN lost a satellite feed during an interview with a Ron Paul supporter: MUST have been them pulling the plug, OBVIOUS.
Two days ago in this thread: If Ron Paul doesn't come in first place in Iowa, MUST be vote fraud, NO other answer.
And lets not forget yesterday and Mr '9-11 was computer controlled, US government planned attacks to get us into the middle east.
No one offers ANY proof at all, ZERO. ZERO. Is this thread/site really breaking down into a crackpot conspiracy theory core?
What is next? JFK? Moon? Did the US let Pearl Harbor happen on purpose?
If you're making a claim that is wildly offensive or different than what the majority believes, you need to offer something to back it up.
P.S. Or is asking someone to back up a wild accusation with anything at all asking too much?
Here, do some homework. Validate YOUR claim. Here is the fact. A Ron Paul supporter was cut off. You come in saying, oh poo hoo. It's 2011 or 2012 or whatever. Shit happens. However, you could easily educate yourself by taking the initiative and googling what tends to cut out satellite feeds. Was it weather? Google the weather conditions. Judging by how well satellite tv works, it'd probably have to be something pretty noticeable. Perhaps swamp gas from a weather balloon was trapped in a thermal pocket and reflected the light from Venus... interrupting the satellite feed.
I have my view, and I don't really want to waste my time trying to change yours. Perhaps, you could ask yourself why you are making excuses for a major media outlet? My point of view is that reality is likely a whole lot more fucking complicated than what is shown on major news outlets. If it isn't, what did I lose?
However, I bet that JFK is on the moon since pearl harbor, happening on purpose.
Any number of things can interrupt satelite feeds, and it is far more common then you think. Even if there was not bad weather in the place the up-link was located, there could have been bad weather on the down-link. Most satellite communication systems operate with a very thin margin. Increased solar radiation, assorted atmospheric effects(especially around dusk), and most importantly rain on the downlink can and will cause a link to go down.
The systems are designed to have anywhere between 99-99.99% availability with local weather effects on the downlink(its assumed you can just increase uplink power), but if you do the math, 99.9% availability is around an hour and a half of downtime a year.
Any glance at a sattelite communications textbook will tell you this, but you know, its a lot easier to invent conspiracies.
Hey, have you ever watched satellite going in and out? It looks like digital distortion. Every time.
What does this video look like when it cuts out? A fake analog signal. You do know that the video traveling up the screen like that is caused by ANALOG syncing, right? Argue with me on this one, please.
That particular soldier is actually under investigation for breaching military protocol:
Military employees are not allowed to speak out on political issues while wearing their uniform. Which makes sense.
ROFL
You guys are advocatin free speak over anything.. But suddenly when some guy wears a uniform it's diffrent? Are you serious?
You can blatantly lie about the Holocaust and preach total bullshit lies that insult entire communites/countreis/religions but you can't give your polticial opinion while wearing the us-uniform?
fucking lol.
It's the same thing as any employer - you can have free speech, but if they don't like it they can fire you. In this case it's bit murkier since he's employed by the government, but it's still the same principle.
In most European countries your employer wouldn't have the right to fire you for saying something he doesn't like without paying you compensation, unless it could be considered as an offense (in France: faute grave). Now the military is a very special thing and derogates to most of these rules, for obvious reasons.
I'm sure if you have a contract of something you will be compensated as it requires, but I doubt a McDonalds employ is going to get any direct compensation for being fired because he supports pot reform. They'd probably be able to get unemployment benefits though.
He would.
You have the right to support pot reform and expressing an opinion that doesn't hurt anybody (it's not racist / homophobic / sexist etc...) can't be considered as a faute grave (serious offense, the only way to fire someone without compensation). If he is under a permanent contract, he would get very big compensation for being fired without a reason. Mc Donald's or not.
Well, I'm glad I don't live in Europe. I disagree with not being able to fire someone without compensation unless the compensation was previously agreed upon. I also disagree with the government determining what speech is offensive. Different things offend different people and regulating that seems unwise to me.
On January 05 2012 12:15 bOneSeven wrote: Alex Jones is a crazy guy ( but imo , get in that field and try to keep yourself 100% sane , I believe it's impossible ) and most of you completely discard him , however I couldn't find the video alone ( tbh I don't really feel like searching for it because I may simply not find it , I never browsed trough CNN shows ) so here it is ... Just watch 1:04-1:50 from this video http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6c8LyUeGC8&feature=player_detailpage ---- Coincidence or deisgn ? Ron Paul getting ZERO support from any media ..
Obviously design. I don't watch any tv, movie, or show without attempting to see what underlying themes and messages are that are being conveyed. If you don't, you're just letting groups and people who's only intent is to control you and help you spend your money program your mind.
I really don't get how SO many people can be wild conspiracy theorists in this thread.
CNN lost a satellite feed during an interview with a Ron Paul supporter: MUST have been them pulling the plug, OBVIOUS.
Two days ago in this thread: If Ron Paul doesn't come in first place in Iowa, MUST be vote fraud, NO other answer.
And lets not forget yesterday and Mr '9-11 was computer controlled, US government planned attacks to get us into the middle east.
No one offers ANY proof at all, ZERO. ZERO. Is this thread/site really breaking down into a crackpot conspiracy theory core?
What is next? JFK? Moon? Did the US let Pearl Harbor happen on purpose?
If you're making a claim that is wildly offensive or different than what the majority believes, you need to offer something to back it up.
P.S. Or is asking someone to back up a wild accusation with anything at all asking too much?
Here, do some homework. Validate YOUR claim. Here is the fact. A Ron Paul supporter was cut off. You come in saying, oh poo hoo. It's 2011 or 2012 or whatever. Shit happens. However, you could easily educate yourself by taking the initiative and googling what tends to cut out satellite feeds. Was it weather? Google the weather conditions. Judging by how well satellite tv works, it'd probably have to be something pretty noticeable. Perhaps swamp gas from a weather balloon was trapped in a thermal pocket and reflected the light from Venus... interrupting the satellite feed.
I have my view, and I don't really want to waste my time trying to change yours. Perhaps, you could ask yourself why you are making excuses for a major media outlet? My point of view is that reality is likely a whole lot more fucking complicated than what is shown on major news outlets. If it isn't, what did I lose?
However, I bet that JFK is on the moon since pearl harbor, happening on purpose.
Any number of things can interrupt satelite feeds, and it is far more common then you think. Even if there was not bad weather in the place the up-link was located, there could have been bad weather on the down-link. Most satellite communication systems operate with a very thin margin. Increased solar radiation, assorted atmospheric effects(especially around dusk), and most importantly rain on the downlink can and will cause a link to go down.
The systems are designed to have anywhere between 99-99.99% availability with local weather effects on the downlink(its assumed you can just increase uplink power), but if you do the math, 99.9% availability is around an hour and a half of downtime a year.
Any glance at a sattelite communications textbook will tell you this, but you know, its a lot easier to invent conspiracies.
Hey, have you ever watched satellite going in and out? It looks like digital distortion. Every time.
What does this video look like when it cuts out? A fake analog signal. You do know that the video traveling up the screen like that is caused by ANALOG syncing, right? Argue with me on this one, please.
That particular soldier is actually under investigation for breaching military protocol:
Military employees are not allowed to speak out on political issues while wearing their uniform. Which makes sense.
ROFL
You guys are advocatin free speak over anything.. But suddenly when some guy wears a uniform it's diffrent? Are you serious?
You can blatantly lie about the Holocaust and preach total bullshit lies that insult entire communites/countreis/religions but you can't give your polticial opinion while wearing the us-uniform?
fucking lol.
The guy is perfectly in his rights to make the same statements out of uniform. However, while in uniform, he is bound to act on behalf of his superiors and the military as a whole. Making any sort of politically charged statement is not something that the military does often, and even when it is done, it comes from the top down.
On January 05 2012 23:44 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On January 05 2012 23:40 Myles wrote:
On January 05 2012 23:36 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On January 05 2012 23:31 Myles wrote:
On January 05 2012 23:21 Velr wrote:
On January 05 2012 22:54 Serthius wrote:
On January 05 2012 13:54 NtroP wrote:
On January 05 2012 13:42 InvalidID wrote:
On January 05 2012 13:08 NtroP wrote: [quote]
Here, do some homework. Validate YOUR claim. Here is the fact. A Ron Paul supporter was cut off. You come in saying, oh poo hoo. It's 2011 or 2012 or whatever. Shit happens. However, you could easily educate yourself by taking the initiative and googling what tends to cut out satellite feeds. Was it weather? Google the weather conditions. Judging by how well satellite tv works, it'd probably have to be something pretty noticeable. Perhaps swamp gas from a weather balloon was trapped in a thermal pocket and reflected the light from Venus... interrupting the satellite feed.
I have my view, and I don't really want to waste my time trying to change yours. Perhaps, you could ask yourself why you are making excuses for a major media outlet? My point of view is that reality is likely a whole lot more fucking complicated than what is shown on major news outlets. If it isn't, what did I lose?
However, I bet that JFK is on the moon since pearl harbor, happening on purpose.
Any number of things can interrupt satelite feeds, and it is far more common then you think. Even if there was not bad weather in the place the up-link was located, there could have been bad weather on the down-link. Most satellite communication systems operate with a very thin margin. Increased solar radiation, assorted atmospheric effects(especially around dusk), and most importantly rain on the downlink can and will cause a link to go down.
The systems are designed to have anywhere between 99-99.99% availability with local weather effects on the downlink(its assumed you can just increase uplink power), but if you do the math, 99.9% availability is around an hour and a half of downtime a year.
Any glance at a sattelite communications textbook will tell you this, but you know, its a lot easier to invent conspiracies.
Hey, have you ever watched satellite going in and out? It looks like digital distortion. Every time.
What does this video look like when it cuts out? A fake analog signal. You do know that the video traveling up the screen like that is caused by ANALOG syncing, right? Argue with me on this one, please.
That particular soldier is actually under investigation for breaching military protocol:
Military employees are not allowed to speak out on political issues while wearing their uniform. Which makes sense.
ROFL
You guys are advocatin free speak over anything.. But suddenly when some guy wears a uniform it's diffrent? Are you serious?
You can blatantly lie about the Holocaust and preach total bullshit lies that insult entire communites/countreis/religions but you can't give your polticial opinion while wearing the us-uniform?
fucking lol.
It's the same thing as any employer - you can have free speech, but if they don't like it they can fire you. In this case it's bit murkier since he's employed by the government, but it's still the same principle.
In most European countries your employer wouldn't have the right to fire you for saying something he doesn't like without paying you compensation, unless it could be considered as an offense (in France: faute grave). Now the military is a very special thing and derogates to most of these rules, for obvious reasons.
I'm sure if you have a contract of something you will be compensated as it requires, but I doubt a McDonalds employ is going to get any direct compensation for being fired because he supports pot reform. They'd probably be able to get unemployment benefits though.
He would.
You have the right to support pot reform and expressing an opinion that doesn't hurt anybody (it's not racist / homophobic / sexist etc...) can't be considered as a faute grave (serious offense, the only way to fire someone without compensation). If he is under a permanent contract, he would get very big compensation for being fired without a reason. Mc Donald's or not.
Well, I'm glad I don't live in Europe. I disagree with not being able to fire someone without compensation unless the compensation was previously agreed upon. I also disagree with the government determining what speech is offensive. Different things offend different people and regulating that seems unwise to me.
At-will employment is one of the greatest strengths of the American economy and, historically, one of the reasons why America's unemployment rate has been significantly lower than Europe's.
On January 05 2012 23:44 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On January 05 2012 23:40 Myles wrote:
On January 05 2012 23:36 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On January 05 2012 23:31 Myles wrote:
On January 05 2012 23:21 Velr wrote:
On January 05 2012 22:54 Serthius wrote:
On January 05 2012 13:54 NtroP wrote:
On January 05 2012 13:42 InvalidID wrote:
On January 05 2012 13:08 NtroP wrote: [quote]
Here, do some homework. Validate YOUR claim. Here is the fact. A Ron Paul supporter was cut off. You come in saying, oh poo hoo. It's 2011 or 2012 or whatever. Shit happens. However, you could easily educate yourself by taking the initiative and googling what tends to cut out satellite feeds. Was it weather? Google the weather conditions. Judging by how well satellite tv works, it'd probably have to be something pretty noticeable. Perhaps swamp gas from a weather balloon was trapped in a thermal pocket and reflected the light from Venus... interrupting the satellite feed.
I have my view, and I don't really want to waste my time trying to change yours. Perhaps, you could ask yourself why you are making excuses for a major media outlet? My point of view is that reality is likely a whole lot more fucking complicated than what is shown on major news outlets. If it isn't, what did I lose?
However, I bet that JFK is on the moon since pearl harbor, happening on purpose.
Any number of things can interrupt satelite feeds, and it is far more common then you think. Even if there was not bad weather in the place the up-link was located, there could have been bad weather on the down-link. Most satellite communication systems operate with a very thin margin. Increased solar radiation, assorted atmospheric effects(especially around dusk), and most importantly rain on the downlink can and will cause a link to go down.
The systems are designed to have anywhere between 99-99.99% availability with local weather effects on the downlink(its assumed you can just increase uplink power), but if you do the math, 99.9% availability is around an hour and a half of downtime a year.
Any glance at a sattelite communications textbook will tell you this, but you know, its a lot easier to invent conspiracies.
Hey, have you ever watched satellite going in and out? It looks like digital distortion. Every time.
What does this video look like when it cuts out? A fake analog signal. You do know that the video traveling up the screen like that is caused by ANALOG syncing, right? Argue with me on this one, please.
That particular soldier is actually under investigation for breaching military protocol:
Military employees are not allowed to speak out on political issues while wearing their uniform. Which makes sense.
ROFL
You guys are advocatin free speak over anything.. But suddenly when some guy wears a uniform it's diffrent? Are you serious?
You can blatantly lie about the Holocaust and preach total bullshit lies that insult entire communites/countreis/religions but you can't give your polticial opinion while wearing the us-uniform?
fucking lol.
It's the same thing as any employer - you can have free speech, but if they don't like it they can fire you. In this case it's bit murkier since he's employed by the government, but it's still the same principle.
In most European countries your employer wouldn't have the right to fire you for saying something he doesn't like without paying you compensation, unless it could be considered as an offense (in France: faute grave). Now the military is a very special thing and derogates to most of these rules, for obvious reasons.
I'm sure if you have a contract of something you will be compensated as it requires, but I doubt a McDonalds employ is going to get any direct compensation for being fired because he supports pot reform. They'd probably be able to get unemployment benefits though.
He would.
You have the right to support pot reform and expressing an opinion that doesn't hurt anybody (it's not racist / homophobic / sexist etc...) can't be considered as a faute grave (serious offense, the only way to fire someone without compensation). If he is under a permanent contract, he would get very big compensation for being fired without a reason. Mc Donald's or not.
Well, I'm glad I don't live in Europe. I disagree with not being able to fire someone without compensation unless the compensation was previously agreed upon. I also disagree with the government determining what speech is offensive. Different things offend different people and regulating that seems unwise to me.
Well I'm glad I don't live in the US where your boss has all power upon you, and can decide that you fuck off and ruin your life just because that morning he didn't like your face.
I am happy and proud live in a society where people are somehow protected from the ones who are richer or further in the hierarchy of their company. Because maybe you guys didn't notice but oppression doesn't always come from the State.
Your model of society is a feudalism. Except that instead of being kings, dukes, barons and at the bottom serfs each of them having right of life and death on the one below them who have strictly no rights, it's shareholders, CEO's, Managers, qualified employee and asshole who clean the floor, each of them having the right to decide that the one below will be unemployed and lose everything if he doesn't like him or his opinions.
On January 05 2012 23:44 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On January 05 2012 23:40 Myles wrote:
On January 05 2012 23:36 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On January 05 2012 23:31 Myles wrote:
On January 05 2012 23:21 Velr wrote:
On January 05 2012 22:54 Serthius wrote:
On January 05 2012 13:54 NtroP wrote:
On January 05 2012 13:42 InvalidID wrote: [quote]
Any number of things can interrupt satelite feeds, and it is far more common then you think. Even if there was not bad weather in the place the up-link was located, there could have been bad weather on the down-link. Most satellite communication systems operate with a very thin margin. Increased solar radiation, assorted atmospheric effects(especially around dusk), and most importantly rain on the downlink can and will cause a link to go down.
The systems are designed to have anywhere between 99-99.99% availability with local weather effects on the downlink(its assumed you can just increase uplink power), but if you do the math, 99.9% availability is around an hour and a half of downtime a year.
Any glance at a sattelite communications textbook will tell you this, but you know, its a lot easier to invent conspiracies.
Hey, have you ever watched satellite going in and out? It looks like digital distortion. Every time.
What does this video look like when it cuts out? A fake analog signal. You do know that the video traveling up the screen like that is caused by ANALOG syncing, right? Argue with me on this one, please.
That particular soldier is actually under investigation for breaching military protocol:
Military employees are not allowed to speak out on political issues while wearing their uniform. Which makes sense.
ROFL
You guys are advocatin free speak over anything.. But suddenly when some guy wears a uniform it's diffrent? Are you serious?
You can blatantly lie about the Holocaust and preach total bullshit lies that insult entire communites/countreis/religions but you can't give your polticial opinion while wearing the us-uniform?
fucking lol.
It's the same thing as any employer - you can have free speech, but if they don't like it they can fire you. In this case it's bit murkier since he's employed by the government, but it's still the same principle.
In most European countries your employer wouldn't have the right to fire you for saying something he doesn't like without paying you compensation, unless it could be considered as an offense (in France: faute grave). Now the military is a very special thing and derogates to most of these rules, for obvious reasons.
I'm sure if you have a contract of something you will be compensated as it requires, but I doubt a McDonalds employ is going to get any direct compensation for being fired because he supports pot reform. They'd probably be able to get unemployment benefits though.
He would.
You have the right to support pot reform and expressing an opinion that doesn't hurt anybody (it's not racist / homophobic / sexist etc...) can't be considered as a faute grave (serious offense, the only way to fire someone without compensation). If he is under a permanent contract, he would get very big compensation for being fired without a reason. Mc Donald's or not.
Well, I'm glad I don't live in Europe. I disagree with not being able to fire someone without compensation unless the compensation was previously agreed upon. I also disagree with the government determining what speech is offensive. Different things offend different people and regulating that seems unwise to me.
At-will employment is one of the greatest strengths of the American economy and, historically, one of the reasons why America's unemployment rate has been significantly lower than Europe's.
Unemployment rate in the US: 8,6% Unemployment rate in France: 9,9%
That's really worth fearing all your life to get fired at any time.
On January 05 2012 23:44 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On January 05 2012 23:40 Myles wrote:
On January 05 2012 23:36 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On January 05 2012 23:31 Myles wrote:
On January 05 2012 23:21 Velr wrote:
On January 05 2012 22:54 Serthius wrote:
On January 05 2012 13:54 NtroP wrote:
On January 05 2012 13:42 InvalidID wrote:
On January 05 2012 13:08 NtroP wrote: [quote]
Here, do some homework. Validate YOUR claim. Here is the fact. A Ron Paul supporter was cut off. You come in saying, oh poo hoo. It's 2011 or 2012 or whatever. Shit happens. However, you could easily educate yourself by taking the initiative and googling what tends to cut out satellite feeds. Was it weather? Google the weather conditions. Judging by how well satellite tv works, it'd probably have to be something pretty noticeable. Perhaps swamp gas from a weather balloon was trapped in a thermal pocket and reflected the light from Venus... interrupting the satellite feed.
I have my view, and I don't really want to waste my time trying to change yours. Perhaps, you could ask yourself why you are making excuses for a major media outlet? My point of view is that reality is likely a whole lot more fucking complicated than what is shown on major news outlets. If it isn't, what did I lose?
However, I bet that JFK is on the moon since pearl harbor, happening on purpose.
Any number of things can interrupt satelite feeds, and it is far more common then you think. Even if there was not bad weather in the place the up-link was located, there could have been bad weather on the down-link. Most satellite communication systems operate with a very thin margin. Increased solar radiation, assorted atmospheric effects(especially around dusk), and most importantly rain on the downlink can and will cause a link to go down.
The systems are designed to have anywhere between 99-99.99% availability with local weather effects on the downlink(its assumed you can just increase uplink power), but if you do the math, 99.9% availability is around an hour and a half of downtime a year.
Any glance at a sattelite communications textbook will tell you this, but you know, its a lot easier to invent conspiracies.
Hey, have you ever watched satellite going in and out? It looks like digital distortion. Every time.
What does this video look like when it cuts out? A fake analog signal. You do know that the video traveling up the screen like that is caused by ANALOG syncing, right? Argue with me on this one, please.
That particular soldier is actually under investigation for breaching military protocol:
Military employees are not allowed to speak out on political issues while wearing their uniform. Which makes sense.
ROFL
You guys are advocatin free speak over anything.. But suddenly when some guy wears a uniform it's diffrent? Are you serious?
You can blatantly lie about the Holocaust and preach total bullshit lies that insult entire communites/countreis/religions but you can't give your polticial opinion while wearing the us-uniform?
fucking lol.
It's the same thing as any employer - you can have free speech, but if they don't like it they can fire you. In this case it's bit murkier since he's employed by the government, but it's still the same principle.
In most European countries your employer wouldn't have the right to fire you for saying something he doesn't like without paying you compensation, unless it could be considered as an offense (in France: faute grave). Now the military is a very special thing and derogates to most of these rules, for obvious reasons.
I'm sure if you have a contract of something you will be compensated as it requires, but I doubt a McDonalds employ is going to get any direct compensation for being fired because he supports pot reform. They'd probably be able to get unemployment benefits though.
He would.
You have the right to support pot reform and expressing an opinion that doesn't hurt anybody (it's not racist / homophobic / sexist etc...) can't be considered as a faute grave (serious offense, the only way to fire someone without compensation). If he is under a permanent contract, he would get very big compensation for being fired without a reason. Mc Donald's or not.
Well, I'm glad I don't live in Europe. I disagree with not being able to fire someone without compensation unless the compensation was previously agreed upon. I also disagree with the government determining what speech is offensive. Different things offend different people and regulating that seems unwise to me.
Well thank fucking god Europe isn't a country. I wouldn't want "the government determining what speech if offensive" either.
On January 05 2012 14:44 NtroP wrote: I can understand your point of view. When I was 20 or so, I was firmly on the other side of the fence. Then I visited slashdot for 10 years. Also, during this time period I got very good at using google to research whatever tickled my fancy.
Now, I trust what I can research and prove using the tools *I* have. Everything else I am skeptical of.
That's just standard conspiracy talk for 'even tho noone believes me, I know I'm right, because I found an incredibly biased youtube clip that said so'. One of the downsides of the internet is that you can find 'proof' for pretty much anything if you look hard and long enough.
Here is a quote from the first 2 sentences on wikipedia for CRITICAL THINKING
"Critical thinking is the process of thinking that questions assumptions. It is a way of deciding whether a claim is true, false; sometimes true, or partly true."
I'd call it critical thinking. The ability to question what is presented to you as fact. In fact, the people that you call conspiracy theorists, might just be people that think critically about what is presented to them on tv. Maybe they shouldn't do that. Maybe questioning what others assume is true is deviant and destructive. (by definition, it is, as the definition of society is basically a group of people that think the same stuff and act the same way so they can get along) Maybe major news outlets are just so bad at their job that it causes people that question their motives to create a lot of fluff that isn't there. That'd be funny, but nice.
The next thing is wisdom, the ability to discern fact from fiction and whether it matters in any given situation. I'm honestly not here to change anyone's mind. I'm here to make sure that more than one viewpoint is provided in this thread. There's others too, and I appreciate their effort.
On January 05 2012 23:44 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On January 05 2012 23:40 Myles wrote:
On January 05 2012 23:36 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On January 05 2012 23:31 Myles wrote:
On January 05 2012 23:21 Velr wrote:
On January 05 2012 22:54 Serthius wrote:
On January 05 2012 13:54 NtroP wrote:
On January 05 2012 13:42 InvalidID wrote: [quote]
Any number of things can interrupt satelite feeds, and it is far more common then you think. Even if there was not bad weather in the place the up-link was located, there could have been bad weather on the down-link. Most satellite communication systems operate with a very thin margin. Increased solar radiation, assorted atmospheric effects(especially around dusk), and most importantly rain on the downlink can and will cause a link to go down.
The systems are designed to have anywhere between 99-99.99% availability with local weather effects on the downlink(its assumed you can just increase uplink power), but if you do the math, 99.9% availability is around an hour and a half of downtime a year.
Any glance at a sattelite communications textbook will tell you this, but you know, its a lot easier to invent conspiracies.
Hey, have you ever watched satellite going in and out? It looks like digital distortion. Every time.
What does this video look like when it cuts out? A fake analog signal. You do know that the video traveling up the screen like that is caused by ANALOG syncing, right? Argue with me on this one, please.
That particular soldier is actually under investigation for breaching military protocol:
Military employees are not allowed to speak out on political issues while wearing their uniform. Which makes sense.
ROFL
You guys are advocatin free speak over anything.. But suddenly when some guy wears a uniform it's diffrent? Are you serious?
You can blatantly lie about the Holocaust and preach total bullshit lies that insult entire communites/countreis/religions but you can't give your polticial opinion while wearing the us-uniform?
fucking lol.
It's the same thing as any employer - you can have free speech, but if they don't like it they can fire you. In this case it's bit murkier since he's employed by the government, but it's still the same principle.
In most European countries your employer wouldn't have the right to fire you for saying something he doesn't like without paying you compensation, unless it could be considered as an offense (in France: faute grave). Now the military is a very special thing and derogates to most of these rules, for obvious reasons.
I'm sure if you have a contract of something you will be compensated as it requires, but I doubt a McDonalds employ is going to get any direct compensation for being fired because he supports pot reform. They'd probably be able to get unemployment benefits though.
He would.
You have the right to support pot reform and expressing an opinion that doesn't hurt anybody (it's not racist / homophobic / sexist etc...) can't be considered as a faute grave (serious offense, the only way to fire someone without compensation). If he is under a permanent contract, he would get very big compensation for being fired without a reason. Mc Donald's or not.
Well, I'm glad I don't live in Europe. I disagree with not being able to fire someone without compensation unless the compensation was previously agreed upon. I also disagree with the government determining what speech is offensive. Different things offend different people and regulating that seems unwise to me.
Well I'm glad I don't live in the US where your boss has all power upon you, and can decide that you fuck off and ruin your life just because that morning he didn't like your face.
I am happy and proud live in a society where people are somehow protected from the ones who are richer or further in the hierarchy of their company. Because maybe you guys didn't notice but oppression doesn't always come from the State.
Your model of society is a feudalism. Except that instead of being kings, dukes, barons and at the bottom serfs each of them having right of life and death on the one below them who have strictly no rights, it's shareholders, CEO's, Managers, qualified employee and asshole who clean the floor, each of them having the right to decide that the one below will be unemployed and lose everything if he doesn't like him or his opinions.
Yup. I like the fact that I can tell you to fuck off if I don't like you and run my personal business how I see fit. If that means running your business into the ground because you fire everyone you disagree with, go right ahead. Anyways, good talking to you again Biff.
What does this video look like when it cuts out? A fake analog signal. You do know that the video traveling up the screen like that is caused by ANALOG syncing, right? Argue with me on this one, please.
That particular soldier is actually under investigation for breaching military protocol:
Military employees are not allowed to speak out on political issues while wearing their uniform. Which makes sense.
ROFL
You guys are advocatin free speak over anything.. But suddenly when some guy wears a uniform it's diffrent? Are you serious?
You can blatantly lie about the Holocaust and preach total bullshit lies that insult entire communites/countreis/religions but you can't give your polticial opinion while wearing the us-uniform?
fucking lol.
It's the same thing as any employer - you can have free speech, but if they don't like it they can fire you. In this case it's bit murkier since he's employed by the government, but it's still the same principle.
In most European countries your employer wouldn't have the right to fire you for saying something he doesn't like without paying you compensation, unless it could be considered as an offense (in France: faute grave). Now the military is a very special thing and derogates to most of these rules, for obvious reasons.
I'm sure if you have a contract of something you will be compensated as it requires, but I doubt a McDonalds employ is going to get any direct compensation for being fired because he supports pot reform. They'd probably be able to get unemployment benefits though.
He would.
You have the right to support pot reform and expressing an opinion that doesn't hurt anybody (it's not racist / homophobic / sexist etc...) can't be considered as a faute grave (serious offense, the only way to fire someone without compensation). If he is under a permanent contract, he would get very big compensation for being fired without a reason. Mc Donald's or not.
Well, I'm glad I don't live in Europe. I disagree with not being able to fire someone without compensation unless the compensation was previously agreed upon. I also disagree with the government determining what speech is offensive. Different things offend different people and regulating that seems unwise to me.
Well I'm glad I don't live in the US where your boss has all power upon you, and can decide that you fuck off and ruin your life just because that morning he didn't like your face.
I am happy and proud live in a society where people are somehow protected from the ones who are richer or further in the hierarchy of their company. Because maybe you guys didn't notice but oppression doesn't always come from the State.
Your model of society is a feudalism. Except that instead of being kings, dukes, barons and at the bottom serfs each of them having right of life and death on the one below them who have strictly no rights, it's shareholders, CEO's, Managers, qualified employee and asshole who clean the floor, each of them having the right to decide that the one below will be unemployed and lose everything if he doesn't like him or his opinions.
Yup. I like the fact that I can tell you to fuck off if I don't like you and run my personal business how I see fit. If that means running your business into the ground because you fire everyone you disagree with, go right ahead. Anyways, good talking to you again Biff.
Hopefully you never get in the situation of being unemployed at 50 without any perspective in life because your legislation didn't judge useful to give you guarantee against your abusive CEO. It would risk to make you change your perspective, and it's so much nicer and easier to always take the side of the rich and the powerful.
On January 05 2012 12:15 bOneSeven wrote: Alex Jones is a crazy guy ( but imo , get in that field and try to keep yourself 100% sane , I believe it's impossible ) and most of you completely discard him , however I couldn't find the video alone ( tbh I don't really feel like searching for it because I may simply not find it , I never browsed trough CNN shows ) so here it is ... Just watch 1:04-1:50 from this video http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6c8LyUeGC8&feature=player_detailpage ---- Coincidence or deisgn ? Ron Paul getting ZERO support from any media ..
Obviously design. I don't watch any tv, movie, or show without attempting to see what underlying themes and messages are that are being conveyed. If you don't, you're just letting groups and people who's only intent is to control you and help you spend your money program your mind.
I really don't get how SO many people can be wild conspiracy theorists in this thread.
CNN lost a satellite feed during an interview with a Ron Paul supporter: MUST have been them pulling the plug, OBVIOUS.
Two days ago in this thread: If Ron Paul doesn't come in first place in Iowa, MUST be vote fraud, NO other answer.
And lets not forget yesterday and Mr '9-11 was computer controlled, US government planned attacks to get us into the middle east.
No one offers ANY proof at all, ZERO. ZERO. Is this thread/site really breaking down into a crackpot conspiracy theory core?
What is next? JFK? Moon? Did the US let Pearl Harbor happen on purpose?
If you're making a claim that is wildly offensive or different than what the majority believes, you need to offer something to back it up.
P.S. Or is asking someone to back up a wild accusation with anything at all asking too much?
Here, do some homework. Validate YOUR claim. Here is the fact. A Ron Paul supporter was cut off. You come in saying, oh poo hoo. It's 2011 or 2012 or whatever. Shit happens. However, you could easily educate yourself by taking the initiative and googling what tends to cut out satellite feeds. Was it weather? Google the weather conditions. Judging by how well satellite tv works, it'd probably have to be something pretty noticeable. Perhaps swamp gas from a weather balloon was trapped in a thermal pocket and reflected the light from Venus... interrupting the satellite feed.
I have my view, and I don't really want to waste my time trying to change yours. Perhaps, you could ask yourself why you are making excuses for a major media outlet? My point of view is that reality is likely a whole lot more fucking complicated than what is shown on major news outlets. If it isn't, what did I lose?
However, I bet that JFK is on the moon since pearl harbor, happening on purpose.
Any number of things can interrupt satelite feeds, and it is far more common then you think. Even if there was not bad weather in the place the up-link was located, there could have been bad weather on the down-link. Most satellite communication systems operate with a very thin margin. Increased solar radiation, assorted atmospheric effects(especially around dusk), and most importantly rain on the downlink can and will cause a link to go down.
The systems are designed to have anywhere between 99-99.99% availability with local weather effects on the downlink(its assumed you can just increase uplink power), but if you do the math, 99.9% availability is around an hour and a half of downtime a year.
Any glance at a sattelite communications textbook will tell you this, but you know, its a lot easier to invent conspiracies.
Hey, have you ever watched satellite going in and out? It looks like digital distortion. Every time.
What does this video look like when it cuts out? A fake analog signal. You do know that the video traveling up the screen like that is caused by ANALOG syncing, right? Argue with me on this one, please.
That particular soldier is actually under investigation for breaching military protocol:
Military employees are not allowed to speak out on political issues while wearing their uniform. Which makes sense.
ROFL
You guys are advocatin free speak over anything.. But suddenly when some guy wears a uniform it's diffrent? Are you serious?
You can blatantly lie about the Holocaust and preach total bullshit lies that insult entire communites/countreis/religions but you can't give your polticial opinion while wearing the us-uniform?
fucking lol.
The guy is perfectly in his rights to make the same statements out of uniform. However, while in uniform, he is bound to act on behalf of his superiors and the military as a whole. Making any sort of politically charged statement is not something that the military does often, and even when it is done, it comes from the top down.
Link to the law that states you lose your right to free speech while wearing a uniform. Because i simply do not believe that one bit. That's just beyond ridiculous if its actually true.
EPT
