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On August 03 2011 06:31 Tommie wrote:
Okay to all people who are cool with this. Would you be cool with this if it were your mom. Or your sister?
haters gonna hate is the most stupid sentence ive ever seen.
Haha, sure why not. Sex is easy money. What are you going to do if your sister starts doing it, lets have some intervention and control her life because you disapprove. Lets just keep all women on leads incase they do anything too outrageous.
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On August 03 2011 06:31 Tommie wrote:
Okay to all people who are cool with this. Would you be cool with this if it were your mom. Or your sister?
This argument never holds any weight. There are plenty of things we condone that we wouldn't want our loved ones to do, such as go to war or become a firefighter. I wouldn't want my sister to teach kids in Africa because of the dangers involved, but that does not make it a bad thing to do. Furthermore, it doesn't really matter what the girl's family thinks about her decision, since it is hers alone to make. Your morals don't hold any weight when it comes to the moral choices of others, and since prostitution does not violate the moral codes of any parties involved, I don't see why it should be illegal or wrong in any way.
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Maybe my standards they are not reality but I find it disturbing that everyone here seems to think: ' oh is cool, if they want it let them.'
Its not like this is a post about more and more people preferring boilt eggs over baked ones.
If I go to thailand and get me 3 fuckslaves beause the country is poor as fuck and i'm rich as hell compared to them is that cool? I dont think so. Same here. Prostitution is in most cases not okay and most women dont want it. There are exceptions offcourse but if you would ask a women: he would you stop doing it if you could/did not have to/did not have such enormous debts, I bet they'd say yes. Another one for you theorycrafters. I'm 50 and rich and pick up your sister for a little dinner and a big fuck. Not because I'm all that attractive but just because im rich as fuck and your sis is heavily in debt. Still think its cool?
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On August 03 2011 06:40 Tommie wrote:
Maybe my standards they are not reality but I find it disturbing that everyone here seems to think: ' oh is cool, if they want it let them.'
Its not like this is a post about more and more people preferring boilt eggs over baked ones.
If I go to thailand and get me 3 fuckslaves beause the country is poor as fuck and i'm rich as hell compared to them is that cool? I dont think so. Same here. Prostitution is in most cases not okay and most women dont want it. There are exceptions offcourse but if you would ask a women: he would you stop doing it if you could/did not have to/did not have such enormous debts, I bet they'd say yes. Another one for you theorycrafters. I'm 50 and rich and pick up your sister for a little dinner and a big fuck. Not because I'm all that attractive but just because im rich as fuck and your sis is heavily in debt. Still think its cool?
I'm not sure what kind of fetish you have for my family, but that ok. I'm not going to demand that you stop thinking about them. I can't control your thoughts, nor am I going to force my morals onto you.
That aside, the logical leaps in this post are astounding.
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Alright, read over what you just wrote, and then ask yourself how making sex work *illegal* helps these women in any way? You disapprove of their decisions, so you want the state to punish them for it?
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On August 03 2011 06:39 Cel.erity wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2011 06:31 Tommie wrote:
Okay to all people who are cool with this. Would you be cool with this if it were your mom. Or your sister? This argument never holds any weight. There are plenty of things we condone that we wouldn't want our loved ones to do, such as go to war or become a firefighter. I wouldn't want my sister to teach kids in Africa because of the dangers involved, but that does not make it a bad thing to do. Furthermore, it doesn't really matter what the girl's family thinks about her decision, since it is hers alone to make. Your morals don't hold any weight when it comes to the moral choices of others, and since prostitution does not violate the moral codes of any parties involved, I don't see why it should be illegal or wrong in any way.
So, morality laws shouldn't exist because different people have different morals?
If I define crime differently should I get away with murder?
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On August 03 2011 06:43 Chargelot wrote:
If I define crime differently should I get away with murder?
Is crime consensual between all parties involved? Can consensual crime even exist for rational, grown people?
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On August 03 2011 06:40 Tommie wrote:
Maybe my standards they are not reality but I find it disturbing that everyone here seems to think: ' oh is cool, if they want it let them.'
Its not like this is a post about more and more people preferring boilt eggs over baked ones.
If I go to thailand and get me 3 fuckslaves beause the country is poor as fuck and i'm rich as hell compared to them is that cool? I dont think so. Same here. Prostitution is in most cases not okay and most women dont want it. There are exceptions offcourse but if you would ask a women: he would you stop doing it if you could/did not have to/did not have such enormous debts, I bet they'd say yes. Another one for you theorycrafters. I'm 50 and rich and pick up your sister for a little dinner and a big fuck. Not because I'm all that attractive but just because im rich as fuck and your sis is heavily in debt. Still think its cool?
It's only cool if i find out you're married, then extort you for more money in order for the wife to remain in the dark. We live in pragmatic times, my friend :D
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On August 03 2011 06:31 Tommie wrote:
Okay to all people who are cool with this. Would you be cool with this if it were your mom. Or your sister?
haters gonna hate is the most stupid sentence ive ever seen.
Completely fine with it, in a sense you could say my mother already is/was a "whore" for the sake of this argument as she dates a successful man who owned his own company while she was a debt ridden college student with two children. Even if they came to like each other over the years she wouldn't even think of dating someone who couldn't provide for us so the relationship was purely for a gain.
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On August 03 2011 06:39 Cel.erity wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2011 06:31 Tommie wrote:
Okay to all people who are cool with this. Would you be cool with this if it were your mom. Or your sister? This argument never holds any weight. There are plenty of things we condone that we wouldn't want our loved ones to do, such as go to war or become a firefighter. I wouldn't want my sister to teach kids in Africa because of the dangers involved, but that does not make it a bad thing to do. Furthermore, it doesn't really matter what the girl's family thinks about her decision, since it is hers alone to make. Your morals don't hold any weight when it comes to the moral choices of others, and since prostitution does not violate the moral codes of any parties involved, I don't see why it should be illegal or wrong in any way.
The argument does hold weight since it is easy to say go ahead to some random girl you dont know or to a sister.
Your morals don't hold any weight when it comes to the moral choices of others
Who says their choice is a moral one. It is more likely a pragmatic one. And you can make your morals hold weight on moral choices of others. I think it is essential to morality.
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On August 03 2011 06:45 acker wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2011 06:43 Chargelot wrote:
If I define crime differently should I get away with murder? Is crime consensual between all parties involved?
Depends on the crime.
Assisted suicide, for example, is. So is me, alone, shooting wildly into the air. Or having bomb making materials in my basement. If I own a fully automatic machine gun, I'm not harming anyone, but it is illegal without proper ATF approval.
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On August 03 2011 06:10 Cel.erity wrote:
Can't believe how cheap you guys are. $50k, really? That's piss money for someone to rape you for 30 minutes. You'd be regretting that after you realize you can't even buy a decent car for 50 grand.
Everyone has a price, but come on. Give me a million or two at least.
How old are you? When you're an adult, you stop thinking about lottery figures and start thinking about wage rate per hour. $50,000 for 0.5 hours is a pretty cheap night for work. And gay guys go through gay sex, so it can't be that disastrous to go through it willingly.
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On August 03 2011 06:40 Tommie wrote:
Maybe my standards they are not reality but I find it disturbing that everyone here seems to think: ' oh is cool, if they want it let them.'
Its not like this is a post about more and more people preferring boilt eggs over baked ones.
If I go to thailand and get me 3 fuckslaves beause the country is poor as fuck and i'm rich as hell compared to them is that cool? I dont think so. Same here. Prostitution is in most cases not okay and most women dont want it. There are exceptions offcourse but if you would ask a women: he would you stop doing it if you could/did not have to/did not have such enormous debts, I bet they'd say yes. Another one for you theorycrafters. I'm 50 and rich and pick up your sister for a little dinner and a big fuck. Not because I'm all that attractive but just because im rich as fuck and your sis is heavily in debt. Still think its cool?
How does that hold any weight? I would stop working my shitty ass $10.40/hr job if I didn't have to pay off my student loans. No one working shitty jobs WANT to be working shitty jobs.... they aren't forced into this at all, it's not like all the males are suddenly out on the street with their degrees. They're CHOOSING to do this, they aren't forced whatsoever.
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On August 03 2011 06:43 Haemonculus wrote:
Alright, read over what you just wrote, and then ask yourself how making sex work *illegal* helps these women in any way? You disapprove of their decisions, so you want the state to punish them for it?
Did i say i want to make sex work illegal?
Are you being a troll?
i think you are
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On August 03 2011 06:47 Tommie wrote:
The argument does hold weight since it is easy to say go ahead to some random girl you dont know or to a sister.
I realize that appealing to emotion is awesome, but it really isn't that sound.
On August 03 2011 06:47 Tommie wrote:
Your morals don't hold any weight when it comes to the moral choices of others
Who says their choice is a moral one. It is more likely a pragmatic one. And you can make your morals hold weight on moral choices of others. I think it is essential to morality.
This is morally no different from saying no one should use contraceptives because it offends your religion. You are infringing on the rights of what is fully consensual between all parties.
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Hoorah for privileged education.
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On August 03 2011 06:40 Tommie wrote:
Maybe my standards they are not reality but I find it disturbing that everyone here seems to think: ' oh is cool, if they want it let them.'
Its not like this is a post about more and more people preferring boilt eggs over baked ones.
If I go to thailand and get me 3 fuckslaves beause the country is poor as fuck and i'm rich as hell compared to them is that cool? I dont think so. Same here. Prostitution is in most cases not okay and most women dont want it. There are exceptions offcourse but if you would ask a women: he would you stop doing it if you could/did not have to/did not have such enormous debts, I bet they'd say yes. Another one for you theorycrafters. I'm 50 and rich and pick up your sister for a little dinner and a big fuck. Not because I'm all that attractive but just because im rich as fuck and your sis is heavily in debt. Still think its cool?
Give me a break with this sister argument again.
If I punch some guy who's hitting on my girlfriend, are you ok with it?
If I punch your sister because she stole $500 from me, are you ok with it?
If I punch a baby on a plane because it's crying, are you ok with it?
Chances are, honestly, you don't give a fuck about situation #1 or #3, because you don't know anyone involved. This says nothing about your morality or humanity, only your loyalty to your family. Your sister stole money from me and deserved a punch, yet I'll bet this punch will upset you a hell of a lot more than a potentially fatal blow to a small child that you never met.
The rest of your argument should be rephrased as: Are you ok with people being poor and in debt? Obviously girls wouldn't prostitute themselves if they didn't have to. Guess what, though. If you were rich and didn't have to work, you probably wouldn't either. This is just another form of work, and in many cases, it's probably the only skill these girls have. In the case of the college girls in the OP, they're obviously under no such duress. They weigh the pros and cons, and figure it to be worthwhile. Telling a girl she's less human for having sex for money is no less insane than telling a guy he's less human for working a degrading job at McDonald's.
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On August 03 2011 06:02 NotSorry wrote:
I've been a "whore" before, not so openly as to use websites and whatnot advertising my services but I've dated/slept with older woman because they had large amounts of money and bought me things and paid my bills and you know what I would do it again in a heart beat if I wasn't married. I don't give a shit about your morals, it's completely legal exchange between two consenting adults and none of your business. I could have found a job if I wanted, had many offers in fact but you know what I would much rather be paid to lay around the house all day and play BW or go out driving one of her many expensive cars and not have to work a normal 9 to 5.
Out of curiosity, and feel free to PM me or not reply at all if this is out of line. Those old women you had to satisfy for financial gains, how did u manage to get aroused/hard in order to perform well? Pills/booze/both? Or was the $ incentive aphrodisiac enough. Btw i'm not trolling, this is a legimitate question.
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On August 03 2011 06:49 FabledIntegral wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2011 06:40 Tommie wrote:
Maybe my standards they are not reality but I find it disturbing that everyone here seems to think: ' oh is cool, if they want it let them.'
Its not like this is a post about more and more people preferring boilt eggs over baked ones.
If I go to thailand and get me 3 fuckslaves beause the country is poor as fuck and i'm rich as hell compared to them is that cool? I dont think so. Same here. Prostitution is in most cases not okay and most women dont want it. There are exceptions offcourse but if you would ask a women: he would you stop doing it if you could/did not have to/did not have such enormous debts, I bet they'd say yes. Another one for you theorycrafters. I'm 50 and rich and pick up your sister for a little dinner and a big fuck. Not because I'm all that attractive but just because im rich as fuck and your sis is heavily in debt. Still think its cool?
How does that hold any weight? I would stop working my shitty ass $10.40/hr job if I didn't have to pay off my student loans. No one working shitty jobs WANT to be working shitty jobs.... they aren't forced into this at all, it's not like all the males are suddenly out on the street with their degrees. They're CHOOSING to do this, they aren't forced whatsoever.
You are so fucking naive i dont have any words for it. It is their own responsibility offcourse. But I'm just shocked how everyone thinks its not a big deal. If this is how yanks feel about women im not surprised yankee girls think im amazing and say they never been with guys as respectful and sweet as me. ( funny by the way when ask if it were cool if it were their sisters or their moms im not allowed to use such a question in an argument or they give me an answer i dont believe at all being a theorycrafter ).
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On August 03 2011 06:48 DetriusXii wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2011 06:10 Cel.erity wrote:
Can't believe how cheap you guys are. $50k, really? That's piss money for someone to rape you for 30 minutes. You'd be regretting that after you realize you can't even buy a decent car for 50 grand.
Everyone has a price, but come on. Give me a million or two at least. How old are you? When you're an adult, you stop thinking about lottery figures and start thinking about wage rate per hour. $50,000 for 0.5 hours is a pretty cheap night for work. And gay guys go through gay sex, so it can't be that disastrous to go through it willingly.
Also, decent cars start in the 30k range. Unnecessary and ostentatious cars are >50K.
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