EPTGirls using wealthy men to pay off student loans - Page 25
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King.Crimson
Romania478 Posts
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Ympulse
United States287 Posts
I don't care how 'hard' it is to get a job. If these women are 'forced' into prostitution to make a living, then by god, they don't belong in an institution of higher learning. | ||
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Klive5ive
United Kingdom6056 Posts
The title could just as easily be "Dirty old men using broke students to get off" | ||
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Badjas
Netherlands2038 Posts
On August 03 2011 05:09 Deadlyhazard wrote: Yep, my sister is doing this with her BF. I'm pretty sure she plans to dump him once they're all paid off (they almost are). I hate her. Jealous? | ||
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Evilmystic
Russian Federation266 Posts
On August 03 2011 05:24 Ympulse wrote: Sad thing is, for all of you coming to the 'defense' of these women, the truth really is that they're whoring themselves out in order to make it through the situations they (I'll assume for the great majority) intentionally got themselves into. I don't care how 'hard' it is to get a job. If these women are 'forced' into prostitution to make a living, then by god, they don't belong in an institution of higher learning. What's wrong with being a whore? | ||
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acker
United States2958 Posts
On August 03 2011 05:24 Ympulse wrote: Sad thing is, for all of you coming to the 'defense' of these women, the truth really is that they're whoring themselves out in order to make it through the situations they (I'll assume for the great majority) intentionally got themselves into. I don't care how 'hard' it is to get a job. If these women are 'forced' into prostitution to make a living, then by god, they don't belong in an institution of higher learning. They're making adequate tuition money by having sex. Therefore, they shouldn't belong in an institution of higher learning. You're projecting your own morals just a little, here. | ||
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CeriseCherries
6170 Posts
-.- I wouldn't say it that harshly, but it is the world's oldest profession. And if it turns out one of them will be the inventor of a cure for cancer, then I say let them take responsibility for what they do. Its not like they are selling themselves out for drugs and stuff. They are trying to get an education which just shows how messed up our education system is: saddling students with burdens that are difficult to pay and stagnating the education. | ||
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Menander
5 Posts
Nothing is wrong with being a whore. Jealousy is a powerful thing, especially when it is used in this situation. You pay for something that you feel should be free and a lot of these women make more money in one night than you will in 6 months. I am talking about the real prostitutes and not the drug hungry hookers that people often mix up. | ||
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Wrongspeedy
United States1655 Posts
On August 03 2011 05:11 acker wrote: I realize they might not have gone over this in high school, but "unemployed" and "job opening" have very specific definitions when it comes to the US economy. You should probably look them up. http://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/jolts.pdf Now, most people would want a nice graph that summarizes everything on two axes. Unfortunately, statistics doesn't work like that in the field. Luckily, you seem like the researcher type, I don't think you'll mind or screw up anywhere. + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2011/07/12/business/economy/economix-12jolts/economix-12jolts-custom1.jpg) On August 03 2011 05:05 Wrongspeedy wrote: You have not given me any reason to believe there aren't jobs out there, because I drive to work everyday, and I see people getting hired at my job and I see other businesses hiring. I also know a bunch of college schmucks who think they have it hard and don't want to get jobs, until they find out that they have to. This is the first time I've seen someone claim their anecdotal personal experience is clearly representative of the rest of the country... Not the first person to put words in my mouth. | ||
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acker
United States2958 Posts
On August 03 2011 05:33 Wrongspeedy wrote: Not the first person to put words in my mouth. I'm glad you understand why your anecdote is both useless and stupid, then. | ||
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lolsixtynine
United States600 Posts
On August 02 2011 21:30 Diks wrote: If by consenting you mean forced to do it by need, then no... Have you read the article ? About that girl feeling dirty after doing that shit ? You have some weird definition of consentment my friend... Uh, I don't know what your definition of consent (or consentment) is but just because someone "felt dirty" afterwards doesn't mean she didn't consent. | ||
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Wrongspeedy
United States1655 Posts
On August 03 2011 05:35 acker wrote: I'm glad you understand why your anecdote is both useless and stupid, then. You just took it out of context. What I feel and what I experience is my own, you presume that I feel like the whole world is one way (the way I experience it). I don't. I don't have sympathy for people who put themselves in debt either. And these girls for the most part had to make excuses to themselves why it was okay (whether it be because the school is too expensive or the economy is shitty). Notice I used the word excuse, because I imply that there could be (and probably is in my opinion) alternatives. ^ This is where we agree to disagree. Thanks for getting more info for your statistics and stuff though, almost no one ever does that. Especially on these types of threads where stats are casually thrown about. | ||
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Tommie
China658 Posts
The middle class is being wiped out. America is dead. | ||
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NotSorry
United States6722 Posts
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Mjolnir
912 Posts
On August 03 2011 05:32 Menander wrote: Nothing is wrong with being a whore. Jealousy is a powerful thing, especially when it is used in this situation. You pay for something that you feel should be free and a lot of these women make more money in one night than you will in 6 months. I am talking about the real prostitutes and not the drug hungry hookers that people often mix up. This is so true. Escorting is booming in a few of the cities around where I live. It's to the point where they're holding city-council meetings about it because it has become quite overt. There are some women who are making ungodly amounts of money. Tax-free, "easy" income, all straight to the bank. The risks to health and safety are minimal (they claim) when they have a small client list - and some of those clients are willing to pay $300-$500 per hour just to be with them. It's pretty hard to blame the women for earning money that way. I can readily admit it makes me jealous that it's a source of income so easily exploitable for women - although I also know that my jealousy is partly a product of total naiveté since I'm sure there are many negative things the women grapple with, whether they admit it or not. If they're willing to take the downsides, it seems the upsides are pretty substantial. | ||
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acker
United States2958 Posts
On August 03 2011 05:44 Wrongspeedy wrote: You just took it out of context. What I feel and what I experience is my own, you presume that I feel like the whole world is one way (the way I experience it). I don't. I don't have sympathy for people who put themselves in debt either. And these girls for the most part had to make excuses to themselves why it was okay (whether it be because the school is too expensive or the economy is shitty). Notice I used the word excuse, because I imply that there could be (and probably is in my opinion) alternatives. I've just listed data as to why that almost certainly isn't the case in this economy, unless Obama's passed a financial aid bill for education in the last week...if there are five unemployed for every job, most people are going to take it up the ass. For some people, be they college or not, this will be quite literal. | ||
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Tommie
China658 Posts
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Wrongspeedy
United States1655 Posts
On August 03 2011 05:54 acker wrote: I've just listed data as to why that almost certainly isn't the case in this economy, unless Obama's passed a financial aid bill for education in the last week...if there are five unemployed for every job, most people are going to take it up the ass. In this case, for some people, quite literally. I disagree. There is a reason there are unemployed people. Sorry if you don't like it or find it heartless. Some people want to be bums. I also live in one of the States with the highest unemployment in the country I'm guessing (Oregon). found a cool website for checking unemployment rates too. Its 9.4 in Oregon http://www.bls.gov/lau/ | ||
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acker
United States2958 Posts
On August 03 2011 05:58 Wrongspeedy wrote: I disagree. There is a reason there are unemployed people. Sorry if you don't like it or find it heartless. Some people want to be bums. + Show Spoiler + Did bumming become five times more popular in 2009 for some reason (or, using total unemployment figures, two to three times)? Everyone decided to take a mass vacation from work? There are structural and demand arguments as to why it's hard to find jobs nowadays. In a normal econ thread, It'd be mortal kombat between the two sides. Not even supply siders would agree with your analysis, though... | ||
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NotSorry
United States6722 Posts
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