[Old] The massacre in Norway - Page 70
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Jiddra
Sweden2685 Posts
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Bleak
Turkey3059 Posts
On July 24 2011 06:43 kekepop wrote: from his manifesto :| wait till they find this Kotick would be unhappy... | ||
r.Evo
Germany14080 Posts
This whole thing definitly took years of calculated, ruthless and cold planning.. I consider my knowledge very solid when it comes to, from an ethical point of view horrible, but nonetheless effective applications of strategy (think Machiavelli, Robert Greene and similar things) but this dude is on a whole other, completely twisted, level. Where on earth would you get the intention to pretty much determine years of your life to this from? I mean, fanatism, yes. But.. this stuff is just insane. Don't know what to say. :/ Those descriptions are so detailed that a handicapped monkey could learn from them. | ||
sidesprang
Norway1033 Posts
Link(Norwegian source) | ||
Kilby
Finland1069 Posts
On July 24 2011 07:11 Jiddra wrote: Oh my god, just caught the interview with the killers laywer. He says the video and manifesto is about his network and himself, so there is more like him out there prepared to do the same. You are assuming the "network" is not just in the killer's head. Let's hope it is. | ||
Psychobabas
2531 Posts
we might as well ban the bible then since a lot of serial killers and mass murderer say they were inspired by scripture. | ||
Blix
Netherlands873 Posts
On July 24 2011 07:15 Kilby wrote: You are assuming the "network" is not just in the killer's head. Let's hope it is. I'm afraid if millions read his crap, that if there doesnt exist a network now, there will exist one in the future | ||
Thorakh
Netherlands1788 Posts
On July 24 2011 07:15 Psychobabas wrote: This is the media we are talking about here. Logic has no place in the media!we might as well ban the bible then since a lot of serial killers and mass murderer say they were inspired by scripture. | ||
Peanutbutt3r
Denmark23 Posts
On July 24 2011 07:06 Dystisis wrote: This doesn't prove that video games motivated him at all. Most young guys play video games. Most young guys don't commit terrorist attacks. After reading that quote from the manifesto, I definitely feel like MW2 played a role in all of this. And of course most people play video games. But I'm sure that the majority of those, don't consider the games as " training simulation "... | ||
Kilby
Finland1069 Posts
On July 24 2011 07:14 r.Evo wrote: The more I look through this manifest the more I feel that reading the anarchist cookbook was like reading a tutorial on how to raise a kitten.. This whole thing definitly took years of calculated, ruthless and cold planning.. I consider my knowledge very solid when it comes to, from an ethical point of view horrible, but nonetheless effective applications of strategy (think Machiavelli, Robert Greene and similar things) but this dude is on a whole other, completely twisted, level. Where on earth would you get the intention to pretty much determine years of your life to this from? I mean, fanatism, yes. But.. this stuff is just insane. Don't know what to say. :/ Those descriptions are so detailed that a handicapped monkey could learn from them. I get the impression that he first started imaginating it and planning it in his head and then got motivated by it more and more along the way and it became is life goal and ultimately he had to fulfill it. Like a feedback loop that just gets stronger the longer it runs. | ||
Grettin
42381 Posts
Well, it exploded pretty hard. | ||
Cassel_Castle
United States820 Posts
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xarthaz
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MinoMino
Norway1103 Posts
I am required to build a capital base in order to fund the creation of the compendium. I don’t know if I will ever proceed with a martyrdom operation at this point as it simply seems too radical. My plan A is to attempt to acquire 3 million Euro, in which case I plan to establish a pan-European organizational platform that will attempt to grow organically as a support organization which will distribute a “legal version” of the compendium. If I fail to generate the specified amount I will move forward with the operation, in order to market the compendium that way. As of 2005 I have managed to generate 500 000 Euro, but I am still 2,5 million Euro short. I will attempt to generate the remaining amount through continued stock/options speculation. I can afford to lose up to 250 000 Euro without it compromising the completion of the compendium and the subsequent effectuation of the operation. Stock/option speculation did not work out. I will need to cut my losses and proceed to plan B. After cutting my losses, I now have a minimum of funds to complete my two tasks (in excess of 250 000 Euro). He failed to generate the funds he had planned. He got to 4 million NOK, then lost 2 million NOK in the stock market. This meant that he had to go with plan B, proceed with the martyrdom operation, which is what he did. Basically, the whole massacre was done to promote this very thing I'm reading in order to start a movement. He wrote about the possibility of living through it and getting arrested, like he did, and he explains that this will be used to promote it even further. | ||
Lankeer
35 Posts
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trNimitz
204 Posts
On July 24 2011 07:21 Cassel_Castle wrote: MW2 is very unrealistic and not a "training simulator" at all compared to games like ArmA 2, this guy is completely wrong about that. You just had to say it out loud didn't you? | ||
Cassel_Castle
United States820 Posts
Everyone was thinking it, someone had to say it. ![]() Also, didn't download the PDF as I don't want to support martyrdom or have a record of downloading instructions to create explosives. | ||
reisada
183 Posts
3.23 The cruel nature of our operations “We do not want to do this, but we are left no choice.” The 3-phase-process of destroying and replacing the current cultural Marxist/ multiculturalist regimes of Western Europe will not be easy or painless. Keep in mind that these regimes we are fighting have and are still committing genocide against the indigenous peoples of Europe by exposing them to more than 25 million Muslims. They have indirectly killed more than 15 000 Europeans, raped more than 500 000 European women, robbed and terrorised more than 4,5 million Europeans, fired more than 37 000 cultural conservatives from their jobs and incarcerated more than 150 000 brothers and sisters for opposing their policies. As a Justiciar Knight you are operating as a jury, judge and executioner on behalf of all free Europeans. Never forget that it is not only your right to act against the tyranny of the cultural Marxist/multiculturalist elites of Europe, it is your duty to do so. There are situations in which cruelty is necessary, and refusing to apply necessary cruelty is a betrayal of the people whom you wish to protect. The preferred method is to attack in a violent and deceptive form (shock attack), usually with limited forces (1-2 individuals). Once you decide to strike, it is better to kill too many than not enough, or you risk reducing the desired ideological impact of the strike. Explain what you have done (in an announcement distributed prior to operation) and make certain that everyone understands that we, the free peoples of Europe, are going to strike again and again. Do not apologise, make excuses or express regret for you are acting in self-defence or in a preemptive manner. In many ways, morality has lost its meaning in our struggle. The question of good and evil is reduced to one simple choice. For every free patriotic European, only one choice remains: Survive or perish. Some innocent will die in our operations as they are simply at the wrong place at the wrong time. Get used the idea. The needs of the many will always surpass the needs of the few. oh my god... what sickening way of thinking | ||
r.Evo
Germany14080 Posts
On July 24 2011 07:19 Kilby wrote: I get the impression that he first started imaginating it and planning it in his head and then got motivated by it more and more along the way and it became is life goal and ultimately he had to fulfill it. Like a feedback loop that just gets stronger the longer it runs. The dedicated "every reading handicapped monkey will be able to follow in my footsteps"-part is what really scares me. It's just all so incredibly in-depth and analytical down to like every single fucking scenario that could happen during "an operation". | ||
farvacola
United States18828 Posts
On July 24 2011 07:19 Peanutbutt3r wrote: After reading that quote from the manifesto, I definitely feel like MW2 played a role in all of this. And of course most people play video games. But I'm sure that the majority of those, don't consider the games as " training simulation "... In almost all cases, the criminally insane merely look for excuses, "justifiable" reasons for why and how they act. To look at the mention of an FPS, an incredibly inaccurate one in terms of real world application, and look at it as anything more than the rantings of a crazy person is silly. | ||
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