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Quotidian
Norway1937 Posts
It's going to be impossible for game developers and game advocates to explain away. He is being too direct about it - he was using it to train the operation. People were commentating on how close this whole thing was to MW2 already before the manifesto had been discovered. Turns out Jack Thompson was more right than anybody who likes to play games are comfortable with admitting. | ||
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Xayoz
Estonia373 Posts
On July 24 2011 06:41 Chilling5pr33 wrote: Man everyone who gets fascinated by this manifest should consider: Even if hes clever and has proper arguments everything seems to fit in ... its just plain hate, hate on everyone, hate on humans it self... if u conclude his thinking u have to kill everyone in the end becouse most of it is just a perspective to live and just a attemp to figure it out. He has no love in his soul he has no mercy and so its all on non-human thinking a robot could do .... WE ARE HUMANS WE SHOULD ACT LIKE HUMANS. Stop try to use logic everywhere and on everything. Becouse youre logic is just as good as youre perspective... consider this and you will find a true way of living. Alas, hate is just as human as love. I'd go as far as saying, you can't have one without the other. | ||
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Deadlyfish
Denmark1980 Posts
On July 24 2011 06:52 keeblur wrote: The dude must have really been insane to think MW2 was able to simulate actual operations. Yea, but as far as the press is concerned MW2 is some kind of psycho combat simulator : / They ALWAYS use the video games excuse when these things happen, as if they didnt happen before video games. | ||
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ninini
Sweden1204 Posts
On July 23 2011 14:15 Divine110 wrote: Very sad  hope all the families get the justice they deserve! How can you get justice for a lost life? | ||
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kekepop
55 Posts
pretty disturbing if you look at the "goals" for 1990-2030 http://forum.fok.nl/topic/1686940/8/25 | ||
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Techno
1900 Posts
On July 24 2011 05:26 chronomancer wrote: semi-auto assault rifles are somewhat practical for big game hunting and just plain good fun to shoot. No. No. No. No. | ||
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xarthaz
1704 Posts
On July 24 2011 06:41 Chilling5pr33 wrote: Man everyone who gets fascinated by this manifest should consider: Even if hes clever and has proper arguments everything seems to fit in ... its just plain hate, hate on everyone, hate on humans it self... if u conclude his thinking u have to kill everyone in the end becouse most of it is just a perspective to live and just a attemp to figure it out. He has no love in his soul he has no mercy and so its all on non-human thinking a robot could do .... WE ARE HUMANS WE SHOULD ACT LIKE HUMANS. Stop try to use logic everywhere and on everything. Becouse youre logic is just as good as youre perspective... consider this and you will find a true way of living. "Should" statements have no descriptive value. Hence they do not contain information about the subject which is attempted to be described. Because of this, appeals to realist/interpersonal ethics are incorrect by their very premise. In short - the man was correct in what he was doing, even if you dont agree with him. | ||
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Chilling5pr33
Germany518 Posts
On July 24 2011 06:55 Xayoz wrote: Alas, hate is just as human as love. I'd go as far as saying, you can't have one without the other. Thats so true you are totaly right... so what to do? We all should try to fight this little war inside of us... good vs. evil bad vs. good and if we will find evidence both have the place in our thoughts extreme actions wont happen anymore. | ||
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Kilby
Finland1069 Posts
On July 24 2011 06:54 Dystisis wrote: There are problems in Europe. However, they are nothing compared to the problems we see in other continents. Our problems have nothing to do with "multiculturalism" like this maniac claims. The same is true of the problems in other continents. This event, if anything, shows what hate and division breeds. I have absolutely no respect for anyone who can agree with the ideas that led this man to his actions. Those can't really even be called ideas when he labels 13-17 year old kids as his enemies. It's just twisted insanity. | ||
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TuElite
Canada2123 Posts
On July 24 2011 06:41 Chilling5pr33 wrote: WE SHOULD ACT LIKE HUMANS. Stop try to use logic everywhere and on everything. ROFLMAO This thread had me seriously shaking my head at every page... I though TL was mostly intellectual and logical people, doesn't look like it when reading this thread. | ||
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Mecker
Sweden219 Posts
On July 24 2011 06:34 Hamp wrote: Oh fuck off, some of us know people who were on the island, and it's so unnecessary of you to state that you simply don't care. There is no need for you to say this, and even if you don't feel anything regarding this, then at least respect the ones of us who do. He didn't show any disrespect toward anyone. He stated his own feelings regarding the event, just as hundreds have in this thread. | ||
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trNimitz
204 Posts
On July 24 2011 06:43 kekepop wrote: from his manifesto :| wait till they find this LOL picking MW2 over MW1 what a nub :D Am quite curious in how video games are going to be portrayed over the next couple weeks... | ||
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redFF
United States3910 Posts
On July 24 2011 06:55 Quotidian wrote: It's going to be impossible for game developers and game advocates to explain away. He is being too direct about it - he was using it to train the operation. People were commentating on how close this whole thing was to MW2 already before the manifesto had been discovered. Turns out Jack Thompson was more right than anybody who likes to play games are comfortable with admitting. Videogames don't make people do crazy things, Crazy people being crazy is what makes them do crazy things, videogames have nothing to do with it. | ||
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Chilling5pr33
Germany518 Posts
On July 24 2011 06:58 TuElite wrote: ROFLMAO This thread had me seriously shaking my head at every page... I though TL was mostly intellectual and logical people, doesn't look like it when reading this thread. But still logic can push u that far so is it the only way to consider things???? Still now u start to compare me with TL... wich is not true i have a very extreme attemp of living - and i should not be compared to this comunity  | ||
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Dystisis
Norway713 Posts
On July 24 2011 06:58 xarthaz wrote: "Should" statements have no descriptive value. Hence they do not contain information about the subject which is attempted to be described. Because of this, appeals to realist/interpersonal ethics are incorrect by their very premise. In short - the man was correct in what he was doing, even if you dont agree with him. It doesn't follow that the man was correct in what he was doing. After a normative use of the term "correct", it is nonsensical to say someone was correct if you do not agree with him. Something can follow logically, but it does not make the premises correct. The conclusion can still be wrong. | ||
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Peanutbutt3r
Denmark23 Posts
On July 24 2011 06:43 kekepop wrote: Oh god, they started with the WoW thing >,> Assuming he did his deeds because of WoW is completely ludicrous, and theres no reason to assume so. If playing WoW, a completely innocent game, is supposedly enough to give a person murderous thoughts, then owning a kitchen knife should make them go on a killing spree- >,< Let's say that I kill someone. I have hair. That doesn't mean I murdered someone BECAUSE I have hair... On July 24 2011 06:43 kekepop wrote: It was just a matter of time until they brougt it up, though.. that being said, it was just ONE small segment in a 16 hour day of continious news broadcasts, so let's not get our panties in a bunch just yet... Also find it interesting that they keep harping on WoW and still refrain from mentioning CoDMW2... from his manifesto :| wait till they find this. February 2010 I just bought Modern Warfare 2, the game. It is probably the best military simulator out there and it’s one of the hottest games this year. I played MW1 as well but I didn’t really like it as I’m generally more the fantasy RPG kind of person – Dragon Age Origins etc .and not so much into first person shooters. I see MW2 more as a part of my training-simulation than anything else. I’ve still learned to love it though and especially the multiplayer part is amazing. You can more or less completely simulate actual operations. Holy crap. When this becomes official.. Well, I'm glad I'm 18, seeing as if I was younger, my parents would probably ban video games from my life ( I might be overreacting a tiny bit : D ). But I've been discussing whether video games played a major role in the shooting or not with my mom, who of course blindly blames it on the video games. I saw a interview with a psychiatrist on danish television, but basically said that Anders isn't considered mentally ill. But reading this statement from his manifesto, it basically proves the exact opposite. What a sick fuck. | ||
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Dystisis
Norway713 Posts
On July 24 2011 07:03 Peanutbutt3r wrote: Holy crap. When this becomes official.. Well, I'm glad I'm 18, seeing as if I was younger, my parents would probably ban video games from my life ( I might be overreacting a tiny bit : D ). But I've been discussing whether video games played a major role in the shooting or not with my mom, who of course blindly blames it on the video games. I saw a interview with a psychiatrist on danish television, but basically said that Anders isn't considered mentally ill. But reading this statement from his manifesto, it basically proves the exact opposite. What a sick fuck. This doesn't prove that video games motivated him at all. Most young guys play video games. Most young guys don't commit terrorist attacks. | ||
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reverb
United States41 Posts
On July 24 2011 06:58 TuElite wrote: ROFLMAO This thread had me seriously shaking my head at every page... I though TL was mostly intellectual and logical people, doesn't look like it when reading this thread. You won't find logic here because of strong emotional reactions from most. | ||
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Zarahtra
Iceland4053 Posts
On July 24 2011 06:55 Xayoz wrote: Alas, hate is just as human as love. I'd go as far as saying, you can't have one without the other. What bothers me most about people reading his crap is, it is probably a huge motivation to him doing what he did. It just sends a bad message out to the world: "if you are a psycho that needs to be heard, we will listen to you, if you kill enough people". Dunno, can't really ignore it though, but yer... wish we could. | ||
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Kilby
Finland1069 Posts
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