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On June 06 2011 13:21 Nightfall.589 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2011 13:19 splinter9 wrote: It is so refreshing to see the mother not pressing charges. Americans are way to court happy. I know if i was that kid i would flip on my parents if they pressed charges. And if it was your daughter being stripped by three older boys?
You and everyone else on this forum have no clue about the circumstances of this instance. Fuck letting the courts decide what kind of punishment these girls deserve, let their parents deal with their kids.
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On June 06 2011 13:26 howerpower wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2011 13:21 Nightfall.589 wrote:On June 06 2011 13:19 splinter9 wrote: It is so refreshing to see the mother not pressing charges. Americans are way to court happy. I know if i was that kid i would flip on my parents if they pressed charges. And if it was your daughter being stripped by three older boys? You and everyone else on this forum have no clue about the circumstances of this instance. Fuck letting the courts decide what kind of punishment these girls deserve, let their parents deal with their kids. Thats is what im saying there buddy. Whats with the righteousness?
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This is very messed up, i agree. But i think not pressing charges was also the right choice. There is no need to take this incident and to ruin those girls' chances at future jobs / opportunities because of some teenage (granted sick and stupid) urge and need to attain a feeling of control and power.
I'm sure the boy will grow out of this eventually, but posting this video on youtube and the news BROADCASTING THIS (wtf?) is the true crime. Youtube should take this down if they havent already.
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If you take a second and think about the scenario, it's really fucked up. Hope those girls are scarred for life cause they obviously need something in their lives to make them not so screwed-the-absolute-fucked up.
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On June 06 2011 11:15 vetinari wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2011 10:57 Eknoid4 wrote: Males complaining about gender double standards is pretty hilarious.
if you're a white male you benefit from double standards more than any other demographic in the country. [citation needed] oh ok. White males aren't the most privileged or powerful demographic, my mistake.
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On June 06 2011 13:29 splinter9 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2011 13:26 howerpower wrote:On June 06 2011 13:21 Nightfall.589 wrote:On June 06 2011 13:19 splinter9 wrote: It is so refreshing to see the mother not pressing charges. Americans are way to court happy. I know if i was that kid i would flip on my parents if they pressed charges. And if it was your daughter being stripped by three older boys? You and everyone else on this forum have no clue about the circumstances of this instance. Fuck letting the courts decide what kind of punishment these girls deserve, let their parents deal with their kids. Thats is what im saying there buddy. Whats with the righteousness?
so still to this day if a couple guys stripped you naked against your will and video taped it and put it online you would not sue them?
if you say you would let them go and have a good laugh you're a liar
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On June 06 2011 13:19 splinter9 wrote: It is so refreshing to see the mother not pressing charges. Americans are way to court happy. I know if i was that kid i would flip on my parents if they pressed charges.
People shouldnt compare boys doing this to a girl and girls doing this to a boy because it isn't the same as much as we would like it to be.
See, thats called a double standard.
Why is it ok to say it would be different if the exact same thing happened, but with reversed roles?
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I bet the kid liked being humiliated by molestation, and roses grow out of clouds. Not really a place for people to argue about gender issues, cause anyone defending PEOPLE who humiliated another human being in such an extreme way is probably mentally fucked up.
The ridiculous people claiming to not care, or laugh at this are retarded. You be young again and get humiliated by someone and have it posted online. By the way, you're next to naked. So dumb... have fun being scarred for life.
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You can't press charges against 3 retarded 14 year old girls, it is unfortunate but this shit happens all the time. This kid will remember this event for the rest of his life but he will eventually learn to deal with it. Kids in general are assholes anyway.
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Food for thought before anyone lynches anyone else.
Was there force? Did the boy offer anything else other then, as a scummy pick up artist would say, "Token Resistance"?
If 3 14 year old boys take off an 11 year old girls clothes, the implicit assumption is "By force/intimidation".
In this case...was there force? did the kid feel intimidated by 3 14 year old girls? In the video, he isn't offering any kind of meaningful resistance. Hes kind of just lying there and letting them do it. I know it says "tackled", but honestly, if 3 girls suddenly just jumped at you your first reaction isn't going to be "Punch them in the face".
In the end how this is prosecuted should depend on how traumatized that victim would be. Did he feel sexually violated, or was he just "eh"?
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Karma is gonna bite (or fuck) them in the ass eventually. This angers me like nothing else but still.... Also Hakker, consider setting yourself on fire for that retarded comment, really consider it, please.
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On June 06 2011 13:34 Eknoid4 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2011 11:15 vetinari wrote:On June 06 2011 10:57 Eknoid4 wrote: Males complaining about gender double standards is pretty hilarious.
if you're a white male you benefit from double standards more than any other demographic in the country. [citation needed] oh ok. White males aren't the most privileged or powerful demographic, my mistake.
You have yet to show how white males benefit from double standards.
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Well, as usual when girls do something its a slap on the wrist. Had this been reversed it would have been rape charges..
Altho, what guy lets some girl tackle you and then strip you and make no resistance? I would punch those cunts in the face if I had to.
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On June 06 2011 14:16 Rylaji wrote: Well, as usual when girls do something its a slap on the wrist. Had this been reversed it would have been rape charges..
Altho, what guy lets some girl tackle you and then strip you and make no resistance? I would punch those cunts in the face if I had to.
With a mother like that, the kid was probably taught all his life to never hit a girl.
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On June 06 2011 14:00 Half wrote: Food for thought before anyone lynches anyone else.
Was there force? Did the boy offer anything else other then, as a scummy pick up artist would say, "Token Resistance"?
If 3 14 year old boys take off an 11 year old girls clothes, the implicit assumption is "By force/intimidation".
In this case...was there force? did the kid feel intimidated by 3 14 year old girls? In the video, he isn't offering any kind of meaningful resistance. Hes kind of just lying there and letting them do it. I know it says "tackled", but honestly, if 3 girls suddenly just jumped at you your first reaction isn't going to be "Punch them in the face".
In the end how this is prosecuted should depend on how traumatized that victim would be. Did he feel sexually violated, or was he just "eh"? The video is on the internet and all through the news. How would YOU feel if something like that would happen to a video showing you in a humiliating position?
Punishments are NOT GOOD if they have zero "deterrent value" and in the spirit of "an eye for an eye" I would think that public humiliation of the girls (by having to sincerely apologize in public and putting it on the news/internet) should do at least some good. The penalty has to be as well known as the seemingly cool dirty deed! If the punishment isnt handled the same way the value as a deterrent equals zero.
Laws = rules / morals of a society punishments = deterrents from breaking laws
That is how societies work ... mostly ... but with the advent of TV and the internet it has become fashionable to "break minor laws / conventions of society" (swearing as a rapper OR a Starcraft caster, breaking laws with only minor penalties, the Janet Jackson-Justin Timberlake incident ...) to be cool and to create a "scandal" for more viewers. This will slowly change the behaviour of society and not for the better. Penalties in our nice modern societies dont work as a deterrent anymore ... and that is bad.
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No she did the right thing by not charging them....parents can do worse than the law can at that age.
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On June 06 2011 13:40 SlapMySalami wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2011 13:29 splinter9 wrote:On June 06 2011 13:26 howerpower wrote:On June 06 2011 13:21 Nightfall.589 wrote:On June 06 2011 13:19 splinter9 wrote: It is so refreshing to see the mother not pressing charges. Americans are way to court happy. I know if i was that kid i would flip on my parents if they pressed charges. And if it was your daughter being stripped by three older boys? You and everyone else on this forum have no clue about the circumstances of this instance. Fuck letting the courts decide what kind of punishment these girls deserve, let their parents deal with their kids. Thats is what im saying there buddy. Whats with the righteousness? so still to this day if a couple guys stripped you naked against your will and video taped it and put it online you would not sue them? if you say you would let them go and have a good laugh you're a liar First off this is children messing around with children its totally different then two Adults doing the samething. But just for fun , if it did happen to me today, the only way id ever even think of pressing charges was if i could make money off of it. If i just had to go in and out of courts for a year all just to get a couple idiots in minor trouble with the law i wouldnt waste my time. Im really not that sensitive. No one got hurt here aside from the kid being embarassed big deal he will get over it. It obviously didnt bother him sooo much that he went home crying to his parents. In fact id vernture to say the story going public is actually more detrimental to him.
If your the type of fickle person that wants to waste days in courtrooms debating over nothing go for it id rather do something better with my time.
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Actually, it may not be the right idea to immediately say that due to innate biological differences, girls stripping a boy is worse than guys stripping a girl.
In the past, men were believed to have greater intelligence than women, because of their greater brain weight. This could also be "proven" due to the higher number of male scientists, artists, leaders, etc. However now we see that this is due to the historical oppression of women.
Now with this incident, is it fair to say that girls stripping a younger boy is less serious than guys stripping a younger girl due to "innate biological differences?"
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On June 06 2011 14:00 Half wrote: Food for thought before anyone lynches anyone else.
Was there force? Did the boy offer anything else other then, as a scummy pick up artist would say, "Token Resistance"?
If 3 14 year old boys take off an 11 year old girls clothes, the implicit assumption is "By force/intimidation".
In this case...was there force? did the kid feel intimidated by 3 14 year old girls? In the video, he isn't offering any kind of meaningful resistance. Hes kind of just lying there and letting them do it. I know it says "tackled", but honestly, if 3 girls suddenly just jumped at you your first reaction isn't going to be "Punch them in the face".
In the end how this is prosecuted should depend on how traumatized that victim would be. Did he feel sexually violated, or was he just "eh"?
Are you kidding? One pinned him down while the other stripped him naked. He tried screaming, but one covered his mouth. He also tried to keep his shorts up from the looks of it.
And you don't seem to understand: This is an 11 year old boy going against 2 14 year old girls. The girls have gone through puberty while this young boy still has yet to experience it. I'm sure I don't need to tell you who wins when you realize those facts.
On June 06 2011 14:30 gta1 wrote: No she did the right thing by not charging them....parents can do worse than the law can at that age.
I'm going to go ahead and call bull shit on this one.
What would parents do, ground them? Take away TV/cell phone/social privileges? Oh yeah, that definitely beats spending time in Juvy...
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I think that either way this is just wrong. The girls did a stupid ass thing and should be punished for it either by their parents, if not, then by the law.
I just hate to think how much shit this guy must go through when other guys around his age make fun of him for getting stripped and attacked by 2 girls. Hope he makes it out of high school alive.
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