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Okay, i'm probably going to regret asking this, but I don't see how this is SUCH a big deal. It was a prank, was it not? Not malicious, aggressive, sexual intent. Gender is irrelevant. They weren't raping the kid. It was a prank. If it were men and they were fairly and correctly judged, it'd still be just a prank.
Maybe it was a bit vicious of a prank, but people here are saying they should go to jail, get raped, and are comparable to murderers. I honestly don't get why people are reacting to harshly. It was a fucking prank.
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I would not call that a Prank.... that's Bulling and it is really bad...
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On June 06 2011 09:45 TALegion wrote: Okay, i'm probably going to regret asking this, but I don't see how this is SUCH a big deal. It was a prank, was it not? Not malicious, aggressive, sexual intent. Gender is irrelevant. They weren't raping the kid. It was a prank. If it were men and they were fairly and correctly judged, it'd still be just a prank.
Maybe it was a bit vicious of a prank, but people here are saying they should go to jail, get raped, and are comparable to murderers. I honestly don't get why people are reacting to harshly. It was a fucking prank. So is I set fire to your car I shouldn't go to jail if no body got hurt?
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On June 05 2011 14:48 jaybee wrote: Dang I wish that happened to me rofl. No, but seriously, it's kinda pathetic to be bullied by girls LOL. The weak always get bulled; its Nature's way. Still, bullied by girls hahahaha!! just man the boy up for a lil while and he will be fine. They outnumbered him 3-to-1 and were about 4 years older...
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On June 06 2011 09:50 Brethern wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2011 09:45 TALegion wrote: Okay, i'm probably going to regret asking this, but I don't see how this is SUCH a big deal. It was a prank, was it not? Not malicious, aggressive, sexual intent. Gender is irrelevant. They weren't raping the kid. It was a prank. If it were men and they were fairly and correctly judged, it'd still be just a prank.
Maybe it was a bit vicious of a prank, but people here are saying they should go to jail, get raped, and are comparable to murderers. I honestly don't get why people are reacting to harshly. It was a fucking prank. So is I set fire to your car I shouldn't go to jail if no body got hurt? Tangible damage isn't really applicable in this situation.
And why are people to so fucking convinced that this kid is emotional wrecked and scarred for life? For all anyone here knows, he'll be fine in a month. He's in 5th grade. He can rebound pretty quickly.
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The only reason i can think why the mother wants the parents to punish the girls instead of the police is because she may think that the parents have to discipline the children and not the police and if the parents dont because the police do these girls most likely will reoffend.
IMO I feel that the girls should be charged by the police isnt there a way the police can go ahead with charges in the us?
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On June 06 2011 09:45 TALegion wrote: Okay, i'm probably going to regret asking this, but I don't see how this is SUCH a big deal. It was a prank, was it not? Not malicious, aggressive, sexual intent. Gender is irrelevant. They weren't raping the kid. It was a prank. If it were men and they were fairly and correctly judged, it'd still be just a prank.
Maybe it was a bit vicious of a prank, but people here are saying they should go to jail, get raped, and are comparable to murderers. I honestly don't get why people are reacting to harshly. It was a fucking prank.
A prank shouldn't violate somebody's rights. IF you knock on their door and run or whatever, then its just a prank and imo isn't a big deal. But if you break their property or do something directly to them then its a matter that should be dealt with accordingly. If this happened to a girl by 3 boys, the 3 boys would be locked up in juvie.
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On June 06 2011 09:01 Asjo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2011 08:49 Nanoko wrote:On June 06 2011 08:34 Asjo wrote:On June 06 2011 08:24 Nanoko wrote:On June 06 2011 08:04 Asjo wrote:On June 06 2011 07:49 Nanoko wrote:On June 06 2011 06:36 Asjo wrote:On June 06 2011 06:24 ChinaRestaurant wrote:On June 06 2011 06:06 Asjo wrote: I see this as a harsh prank by the girls, not a legal matter. Also, I think we have to consider that maybe the kid secretly liked this. The video aside, it's mostly playing around involving close physical contact with girls ...
The reason that people would react differently if it was a bunch of boys would only be due to rationalizations in regards to the sexual aspect of it. People interpret behaviour, consider what it might lead to, and act preventatively. Perhaps this might sometimes lead to an overreaction, but that doesn't mean that you should also overreact to a single instance of bullying by girls in the name of equality. As it is, it was a bunch of young kids acting immaturely and getting physical about it. Obviously, the school/parents will react to avoid things escalating, but as such there is nothing outrageous about the interaction.
I don't know if the comments in this thread about child porn are serious. However, just because someone underage is filmed nude, does not in any way make it child porn. Nudity is the most natural thing in the world. Child porn is about exploitation of children and the often sexualized depiction of such. I dont think youve ever undressed or have been undressed unwillingly in front of relative strangers have you? Try putting yourself in the shoes of the boy, 3 years younger and alone, in public, getting undressed while being kept down by the girls. Sure is quite a lot of humiliation in that. Something similar happened to me once, just that the people doing it were 3 boys from my class and they undressed me for practically everyone in my class to see. Believe me there is nothing to secretly enjoy about this at that age. Later on in your life when you might or might not develop kinks and fetishes is another thing, but dont tell me an 11 year old might be into humiliation, even if it involved being in close contact with some girls. I beg to differ about your last point. You can develop certain ways of relating to girls in terms physical contact, conversation, etc. At this age your hormones might be kicking in, and you're desperate to somehow get in touch with the girls. So, based on whatever experience you have, you assume a behaviour that allows you to do so. This might mean willingly engaging is humiliating situations of some kind and repeating this due to past "success". For all we know, the boy might have somehow tries to encourage the reaction of the girls, even if not this specific act. We don't know. But I certainly wouldn't count out the fact that the boy might have enjoyed it. The other you example you give is more clear cut. At this age, boys start getting more insecure about group dynamics and will battle for dominance. Your lack of power in relation to the boys that you compete with being so clearly displayed will certainly mark you. Mind you, it likely won't have any long-term effects, but you certainly won't like it. Even more so, the situation being designed to humiliate you (carried out for the audience), not just and act of fun/soperiority/venting, enhances this effect. Add to that the fact that most of us get humiliated terribly during our younger years, often against our will. More often than not, it does not weaken us. We learn from it and grow. It's an integral part of interaction at this stage, and if we never get to be foolish kids and act out all our ugly feelings and go through all the motions, there is little chance of use growing up as wise and well-balanced adults. This doesn't mean that kids should behave and treat each other well, but often this comes as part of a process. There will be bullying, people will act to stop the bullying, and hopefully everyone will learn from it. First of all let's say he did enjoy it..why was he screaming and bawling his eyes out?,if I am correct in believing that being publicly humiliated to some people is enjoyable...they wouldn't be screaming or protesting against it would they? Call me crazy, but when people do stuff that they enjoy (Even S&M activities) they don't react in the same way that kid did...do they? NO! Good, now we're learning! Also the whole "Close physical contact with girls" thing, at the onset of puberty (can start in either sex between ages of 10-13, potentially earlier, potentially later). You begin to develop an interest in girls...that is not to say you want to see them NAKED OR that you want THEM TO SEE YOU NAKED, you merely begin to get interested at them. You're not by any means "Desperate" to get into contact with girls, in my experience most guys are scared to hell to even TALK to a girl at around that age BECAUSE of their new found interest in them. It's not like puberty hits and boys are just like "Wow...I never thought about this before but...girls..are awesome, I wanna hang out with them...and ...i get this weird feeling whenever I'm near them..i wonder if they touch me?....". I really am astonished at how you, and people like you can think this way..it's Mind boggling, absolutely Mind Boggling. as for it not being child porn, Clearly you do not know what child porn is, they do not have to be sexually explicit and child nudity IS considered Child Porn. Maybe at ages 1-4 i can see it not being child porn, cause it's just a baby...but even then there are some Sick Fucks out there. I'm honestly hoping you're just trolling, because this is a pretty fucked up way to look at this....saying that kid, who was clearly NOT enjoying being publicly humiliated and assaulted, could've liked it is just...Wow I would say you have a very narrow-minded interpreation of what I am saying. My point is completely valid; he could definitely have enjoyed it. I'm using my own experience and knowledge to make that call. I haven't watched the video with sound (sitting on an old computer with no sound right now), so I don't know whather than would change my perception. However, I do know that even if he got enjoyment from it, he would certainly react vividly and show his dismay. This, as such, is what would serve to encourage to girls and also keep up appearances. He doesn't want it to be known that he enjoys it. I never said that child porn had to be sexually explicit. I'm saying it involved the exploitation of children. This is not exploitation of the boy for the sake of child pornography (at least not that we know of  ). He just happens to be naked, the context not at all related. Now, if you're a family father who takes pictures of your daughter while she is naked and bathing there is nothing wrong with that, even if you have her pose. There is nothing wrong with putting these pictures in your family album and showing said album to visitors. However, if you circulate all the nude pictures among other adult males the circumstances do start to point towards to use of these pictures as child pornography. You must be conscious about the heavy stigma that had developed around child pornograpy due to media coverage of incidents. This has gotten to the point where some fathers are afraid to touch their own daughters. It is important to insist that the fear of child explotation does invade and dictate other areas of life, where children can be naked in completely normal circumstances, where they are not being exploited. I'm narrow-minded? Ok I'll bite, from what personal experiences have you concluded that this kid could potentially enjoy this, not related to you by friends, the internet, or anywhere else. What PERSONAL experience with being publicly stripped down by 3 other people and enjoying it do you have? You say that you're using your experience and knowledge, so knowledge of what? do you have a degree in child psychology? most likely not, were you as a child stripped down naked and had a video of it posted on the internet for thousands to see? Also the whole " he would certainly react vividly and show his dismay. This, as such, is what would serve to encourage to girls and also keep up appearances. He doesn't want it to be known that he enjoys it." thing....11 year olds are not Smart enough to have thought that out While being Assaulted, this isn't speculation, this is fact, Kids are not that smart, that's why Adults make the majority of their decisions for them. but no, this kid is obviously faking it cause he wants the sexy time with the ladies right? ofc couldn't possible be he is actually being traumatized, potentially for life or anything? not at all. Of course they can be that smart. As I have speculated earlier, he might have engaged in a similar pattern of behaviour that eventually lead to this, so he understands what will make the girls do what he wants. I think the part of this that is most likely cause actual resistance is the fact that he is being filmed and could risk a degree of exposure that he would find too much. It's silly of your to assert that to understand anything you have to have experiences precisely that or have to have a degree. Me not being a child psychologist does not mean that I would not be able to understand a child better than one such would. And experiences with something similar would give me and understand of what could be going on in this situation. And you poking fun at my statements or exaggerating them does not make them any less valid. My point stands. no,no,no you don't just get to side-step. i asked you from what personal Experiences did you draw your conclusions from. your Speculation is just that...speculation,unless you can provide some sort of evidence, from personal experience or a professional source, that proves that your speculation has the potential to be accurate, what you're saying is nothing more then inane prattle from a sexist. Furthermore, if you're suggesting he engaged in similar behaviour then there is also a likely chance that there is documentation, and possible news coverage of that incident....Furthermore implying that an elven year old has that sophisticated a concept of manipulation, which is exactly what it would be is a little bit preposterous. you said from your own experiences, from your own intuition you drew this conclusion specifically. What experience? what made you draw this conclusion? At the age of eleven I can say with confidence that nearly every eleven year old would find being publicly stripped too much exposure. Your insistence on evidence simply forces me to repeat my previous point; it's intuition, the sum of all our experiences. I am not going to write several pages of life experiences which might give me an insight into the different aspects of human behaviour that are represented in the situation. Suffice to say, most 27-year olds would have sufficient experience to make an informed interpretation of this situation. I doubt anyone will "document" other incidents, unless this went to court. I don't see what revelance it has to bring this up.
And your insistence that "intuition" is at all a valid form of reasoning in any way, shape or form, is utterly idiotic.
Go make a post in the sc2 strategy form. "ZERG IS OP. I HAZ INTUITION!"
And you bring up, "he may have secretly liked it". What kind of argument is this? "No, your honor. It wasn't rape, because she orgasmed. She secretly liked it! Besides, she was secretly engaging in behaviour that may have led to this, wearing slutty clothing. SHE HAD IT COMING".
Jesus, your misandrous views are revolting.
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Wow! This was handled improperly by everyone but the poor kid AKA the victim. Since no punishment was handed out for this, it has taught the girls that they can get away with this type of behavior and will promote similar or escalated incidents in the future.
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This shoulda never been aired on the news for the boys sake, and mom probably didnt press charges to avoid dragging this out further. Dickheads in news outlet just made this more embarrassing for the kid
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On June 06 2011 10:08 TALegion wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2011 09:50 Brethern wrote:On June 06 2011 09:45 TALegion wrote: Okay, i'm probably going to regret asking this, but I don't see how this is SUCH a big deal. It was a prank, was it not? Not malicious, aggressive, sexual intent. Gender is irrelevant. They weren't raping the kid. It was a prank. If it were men and they were fairly and correctly judged, it'd still be just a prank.
Maybe it was a bit vicious of a prank, but people here are saying they should go to jail, get raped, and are comparable to murderers. I honestly don't get why people are reacting to harshly. It was a fucking prank. So is I set fire to your car I shouldn't go to jail if no body got hurt? Tangible damage isn't really applicable in this situation. And why are people to so fucking convinced that this kid is emotional wrecked and scarred for life? For all anyone here knows, he'll be fine in a month. He's in 5th grade. He can rebound pretty quickly.
So the harassment he'll face in school for what will be years is nothing? Stuff like this isn't easily forgotten. The parents heard it through the older brother from the junior high where these girls are from, where I'm guessing the boy will go. I don't doubt the incident itself has done its' damage, it's the aftermath that will haunt him though.
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On June 06 2011 10:20 vetinari wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2011 09:01 Asjo wrote:On June 06 2011 08:49 Nanoko wrote:On June 06 2011 08:34 Asjo wrote:On June 06 2011 08:24 Nanoko wrote:On June 06 2011 08:04 Asjo wrote:On June 06 2011 07:49 Nanoko wrote:On June 06 2011 06:36 Asjo wrote:On June 06 2011 06:24 ChinaRestaurant wrote:On June 06 2011 06:06 Asjo wrote: I see this as a harsh prank by the girls, not a legal matter. Also, I think we have to consider that maybe the kid secretly liked this. The video aside, it's mostly playing around involving close physical contact with girls ...
The reason that people would react differently if it was a bunch of boys would only be due to rationalizations in regards to the sexual aspect of it. People interpret behaviour, consider what it might lead to, and act preventatively. Perhaps this might sometimes lead to an overreaction, but that doesn't mean that you should also overreact to a single instance of bullying by girls in the name of equality. As it is, it was a bunch of young kids acting immaturely and getting physical about it. Obviously, the school/parents will react to avoid things escalating, but as such there is nothing outrageous about the interaction.
I don't know if the comments in this thread about child porn are serious. However, just because someone underage is filmed nude, does not in any way make it child porn. Nudity is the most natural thing in the world. Child porn is about exploitation of children and the often sexualized depiction of such. I dont think youve ever undressed or have been undressed unwillingly in front of relative strangers have you? Try putting yourself in the shoes of the boy, 3 years younger and alone, in public, getting undressed while being kept down by the girls. Sure is quite a lot of humiliation in that. Something similar happened to me once, just that the people doing it were 3 boys from my class and they undressed me for practically everyone in my class to see. Believe me there is nothing to secretly enjoy about this at that age. Later on in your life when you might or might not develop kinks and fetishes is another thing, but dont tell me an 11 year old might be into humiliation, even if it involved being in close contact with some girls. I beg to differ about your last point. You can develop certain ways of relating to girls in terms physical contact, conversation, etc. At this age your hormones might be kicking in, and you're desperate to somehow get in touch with the girls. So, based on whatever experience you have, you assume a behaviour that allows you to do so. This might mean willingly engaging is humiliating situations of some kind and repeating this due to past "success". For all we know, the boy might have somehow tries to encourage the reaction of the girls, even if not this specific act. We don't know. But I certainly wouldn't count out the fact that the boy might have enjoyed it. The other you example you give is more clear cut. At this age, boys start getting more insecure about group dynamics and will battle for dominance. Your lack of power in relation to the boys that you compete with being so clearly displayed will certainly mark you. Mind you, it likely won't have any long-term effects, but you certainly won't like it. Even more so, the situation being designed to humiliate you (carried out for the audience), not just and act of fun/soperiority/venting, enhances this effect. Add to that the fact that most of us get humiliated terribly during our younger years, often against our will. More often than not, it does not weaken us. We learn from it and grow. It's an integral part of interaction at this stage, and if we never get to be foolish kids and act out all our ugly feelings and go through all the motions, there is little chance of use growing up as wise and well-balanced adults. This doesn't mean that kids should behave and treat each other well, but often this comes as part of a process. There will be bullying, people will act to stop the bullying, and hopefully everyone will learn from it. First of all let's say he did enjoy it..why was he screaming and bawling his eyes out?,if I am correct in believing that being publicly humiliated to some people is enjoyable...they wouldn't be screaming or protesting against it would they? Call me crazy, but when people do stuff that they enjoy (Even S&M activities) they don't react in the same way that kid did...do they? NO! Good, now we're learning! Also the whole "Close physical contact with girls" thing, at the onset of puberty (can start in either sex between ages of 10-13, potentially earlier, potentially later). You begin to develop an interest in girls...that is not to say you want to see them NAKED OR that you want THEM TO SEE YOU NAKED, you merely begin to get interested at them. You're not by any means "Desperate" to get into contact with girls, in my experience most guys are scared to hell to even TALK to a girl at around that age BECAUSE of their new found interest in them. It's not like puberty hits and boys are just like "Wow...I never thought about this before but...girls..are awesome, I wanna hang out with them...and ...i get this weird feeling whenever I'm near them..i wonder if they touch me?....". I really am astonished at how you, and people like you can think this way..it's Mind boggling, absolutely Mind Boggling. as for it not being child porn, Clearly you do not know what child porn is, they do not have to be sexually explicit and child nudity IS considered Child Porn. Maybe at ages 1-4 i can see it not being child porn, cause it's just a baby...but even then there are some Sick Fucks out there. I'm honestly hoping you're just trolling, because this is a pretty fucked up way to look at this....saying that kid, who was clearly NOT enjoying being publicly humiliated and assaulted, could've liked it is just...Wow I would say you have a very narrow-minded interpreation of what I am saying. My point is completely valid; he could definitely have enjoyed it. I'm using my own experience and knowledge to make that call. I haven't watched the video with sound (sitting on an old computer with no sound right now), so I don't know whather than would change my perception. However, I do know that even if he got enjoyment from it, he would certainly react vividly and show his dismay. This, as such, is what would serve to encourage to girls and also keep up appearances. He doesn't want it to be known that he enjoys it. I never said that child porn had to be sexually explicit. I'm saying it involved the exploitation of children. This is not exploitation of the boy for the sake of child pornography (at least not that we know of  ). He just happens to be naked, the context not at all related. Now, if you're a family father who takes pictures of your daughter while she is naked and bathing there is nothing wrong with that, even if you have her pose. There is nothing wrong with putting these pictures in your family album and showing said album to visitors. However, if you circulate all the nude pictures among other adult males the circumstances do start to point towards to use of these pictures as child pornography. You must be conscious about the heavy stigma that had developed around child pornograpy due to media coverage of incidents. This has gotten to the point where some fathers are afraid to touch their own daughters. It is important to insist that the fear of child explotation does invade and dictate other areas of life, where children can be naked in completely normal circumstances, where they are not being exploited. I'm narrow-minded? Ok I'll bite, from what personal experiences have you concluded that this kid could potentially enjoy this, not related to you by friends, the internet, or anywhere else. What PERSONAL experience with being publicly stripped down by 3 other people and enjoying it do you have? You say that you're using your experience and knowledge, so knowledge of what? do you have a degree in child psychology? most likely not, were you as a child stripped down naked and had a video of it posted on the internet for thousands to see? Also the whole " he would certainly react vividly and show his dismay. This, as such, is what would serve to encourage to girls and also keep up appearances. He doesn't want it to be known that he enjoys it." thing....11 year olds are not Smart enough to have thought that out While being Assaulted, this isn't speculation, this is fact, Kids are not that smart, that's why Adults make the majority of their decisions for them. but no, this kid is obviously faking it cause he wants the sexy time with the ladies right? ofc couldn't possible be he is actually being traumatized, potentially for life or anything? not at all. Of course they can be that smart. As I have speculated earlier, he might have engaged in a similar pattern of behaviour that eventually lead to this, so he understands what will make the girls do what he wants. I think the part of this that is most likely cause actual resistance is the fact that he is being filmed and could risk a degree of exposure that he would find too much. It's silly of your to assert that to understand anything you have to have experiences precisely that or have to have a degree. Me not being a child psychologist does not mean that I would not be able to understand a child better than one such would. And experiences with something similar would give me and understand of what could be going on in this situation. And you poking fun at my statements or exaggerating them does not make them any less valid. My point stands. no,no,no you don't just get to side-step. i asked you from what personal Experiences did you draw your conclusions from. your Speculation is just that...speculation,unless you can provide some sort of evidence, from personal experience or a professional source, that proves that your speculation has the potential to be accurate, what you're saying is nothing more then inane prattle from a sexist. Furthermore, if you're suggesting he engaged in similar behaviour then there is also a likely chance that there is documentation, and possible news coverage of that incident....Furthermore implying that an elven year old has that sophisticated a concept of manipulation, which is exactly what it would be is a little bit preposterous. you said from your own experiences, from your own intuition you drew this conclusion specifically. What experience? what made you draw this conclusion? At the age of eleven I can say with confidence that nearly every eleven year old would find being publicly stripped too much exposure. Your insistence on evidence simply forces me to repeat my previous point; it's intuition, the sum of all our experiences. I am not going to write several pages of life experiences which might give me an insight into the different aspects of human behaviour that are represented in the situation. Suffice to say, most 27-year olds would have sufficient experience to make an informed interpretation of this situation. I doubt anyone will "document" other incidents, unless this went to court. I don't see what revelance it has to bring this up. And your insistence that "intuition" is at all a valid form of reasoning in any way, shape or form, is utterly idiotic. Go make a post in the sc2 strategy form. "ZERG IS OP. I HAZ INTUITION!" And you bring up, "he may have secretly liked it". What kind of argument is this? "No, your honor. It wasn't rape, because she orgasmed. She secretly liked it! Besides, she was secretly engaging in behaviour that may have led to this, wearing slutty clothing. SHE HAD IT COMING". Jesus, your misandrous views are revolting.
Simply citing intuition Asjo, is what makes it a double standard and sexist to me. You're specifically stating that it would be different in a role reversal with no citation other than "Intuition, I think it's this way".
I think women are dumber, intuition, they shouldn't be given any jobs. See, that's intuition, but it's sexist as fuck.
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On June 06 2011 09:45 TALegion wrote: Okay, i'm probably going to regret asking this, but I don't see how this is SUCH a big deal. It was a prank, was it not? Not malicious, aggressive, sexual intent. Gender is irrelevant. They weren't raping the kid. It was a prank. If it were men and they were fairly and correctly judged, it'd still be just a prank.
Maybe it was a bit vicious of a prank, but people here are saying they should go to jail, get raped, and are comparable to murderers. I honestly don't get why people are reacting to harshly. It was a fucking prank.
It may have been a prank, but it was a malicious prank that involves assault, sexual assault and child pornography.
This prank crossed the line, and hence the girls should be punished, to the exact same extent as if the genders were swapped.
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LOL boy getting bullied is pretty pathetic... I mean seriously, not being mean, but bullying usually happens for a reason. Usually its because the person getting bullied is fuckin annoying and pisses everyone off LOL at least thats the reason at my school. So usually people just gang up and jump him at a park.
User was temp banned for this and other posts.
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On June 06 2011 10:29 koolaid1990 wrote: LOL boy getting bullied is pretty pathetic... I mean seriously, not being mean, but bullying usually happens for a reason. Usually its because the person getting bullied is fuckin annoying and pisses everyone off LOL at least thats the reason at my school. So usually people just gang up and jump him at a park.
Did you even read the OP? How you post something so dumb is beyond me. The kid is ELEVEN.
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This is horrific. Can you imagine the outcry if the victim was a girl and the perpetrators were older boys.
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On June 06 2011 10:29 koolaid1990 wrote: LOL boy getting bullied is pretty pathetic... I mean seriously, not being mean, but bullying usually happens for a reason. Usually its because the person getting bullied is fuckin annoying and pisses everyone off LOL at least thats the reason at my school. So usually people just gang up and jump him at a park.

Where is Jinro when you need him?
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Best solution: the girls should suffer the same embarassment as the boy. People should post videos condemning them for acting like barbarians, and demanding a joint apology video. Make it happen internet.
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On June 06 2011 09:45 TALegion wrote: Okay, i'm probably going to regret asking this, but I don't see how this is SUCH a big deal. It was a prank, was it not? Not malicious, aggressive, sexual intent. Gender is irrelevant. They weren't raping the kid. It was a prank. If it were men and they were fairly and correctly judged, it'd still be just a prank.
No, it really wouldn't. If three 14-year-old boys had gone up to an 11-year-old girl, pinned her to the ground with a knee to her neck, and stripped her naked, no one would be calling it "just a prank." And the girl's mother sure as hell would press charges.
Ugh, gender double standards piss me off so much.
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Males complaining about gender double standards is pretty hilarious.
if you're a white male you benefit from double standards more than any other demographic in the country.
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