On November 17 2013 23:26 Wombat_NI wrote: I am a bit of a prog head so it sounds like itd be awesome for that range of tones.
As per usual, godamn can't try before I would buy, which is a bit frustrating
If you are a prog head, you'll fit right in with sevenstring.org Either way, there should be a whole bunch of soundclips there (somewhere in the recording section) considering they treat Axe-FX II as a god there
Thinking of potential doing a teaching diploma, one of the things besides from detailed lesson plans and student interaction you can supplement your efforts with things like YouTube videos.
What would some of you folks potentially want to see tackled?
1) Beginning and buying your first guitar 2) Getting lessons vs learning on your own (this is subjective of course, but it's good to hear some input or at least both sides of the issue) 3) Starting exercises (chromatic scales, a couple of major scale patterns) 4) Basic chords and songs, power chords 5) Some theory and exercies (major scale in every position/mode)
Then you can get into slightly more advanced stuff like 1) Barre chords 2) Alternate picking 3) Playing simple melodies and soloes over songs (say, the solo from Holiday from Green Day which is super easy) 4) Basic bending/legato/sliding exercises (and a couple of songs as an example, maybe the solo from Animal or Hysteria by Def Leppard) 5) More theory, natural minor and pentatonic scales
After this i'd go over 1) Basic improvisation, so essentially jamming over a 12 bar blues using the pentatonic scale(s) 2) Theory: sus2/sus4/6/7 chords 3) Jazz chord progression (these are fucking great to exercise hand strength) 4) More complex bending/legato/sliding stuff 5) More improvisation: using the major scale and modes over a chord progression.
That's probably enough material to have a good overview of lots of styles and be able to play over a variety of things, so it should be enough
On November 17 2013 14:02 Wombat_NI wrote: TL is my go-to for even guitar discussion these days. Everywhere else is either too spammy, or I have to do some reading up before I even dare post at some of the other places.
I do have some good forums bookmarked on one of my other comps, might have a look later for you fine folks.
Anybody tried out an Axe FX 2 here?
:O for example?
Any brand-specific forum typically, especially the smaller, more hardcore ones. I'm not going to name names but I used to be one of the people who helped others identify what guitars they bought. If people barged in and said wrong stuff we were not afraid of not just telling them they were wrong, but explaining in detail just how wrong they were, usually with cited sources to show them. It scared some people away but others used it as a learning experience. We could be harsh but it was necessary because we weren't about to let anyone ruin our community atmosphere. When I first started I was on the receiving end of that a couple times but I learned quickly enough.
Well if someone barged into a thread in TL spouting crap there would also be people doing the same right? Mind giving me some details or examples please? I'm curious. You can PM me if you'd like
It's simply that some much smaller forums have much higher standards than most when it comes to posting. TL has high standards compared to most. I've been to places with even higher standards than TL. Usually places with a small number of active users, as in maybe a couple hundred versus the thousands on TL.
I'm not saying it's a bad thing. I was part of a couple and had great experiences with both, but in both cases they were quite hardcore about the subject matter and didn't take lightly to people spreading misinformation or guessing about things when they could have a proper sourced answer. To fit in properly you did have to know a ton about the subject matter.
On November 18 2013 01:14 Teoita wrote: 2) Getting lessons vs learning on your own (this is subjective of course, but it's good to hear some input or at least both sides of the issue)
This point is of particular interest. For bass I am fully self-taught (I used instructional videos and articles to learn), but for guitar I took lessons for a few years (through high school), and wouldn't be a quarter of the player I am today without my teacher. Though my teacher was absolutely amazing and did things in a very unorthodox fashion so my experience was probably not even close to standard.
On November 18 2013 00:59 Wombat_NI wrote: Thinking of potential doing a teaching diploma, one of the things besides from detailed lesson plans and student interaction you can supplement your efforts with things like YouTube videos.
What would some of you folks potentially want to see tackled?
As someone who went (or tried to at least) go the self taught method my biggest issues that could be tackled with youtube IMO are concise decent sources of technique "Try doing this instead of this if you're having trouble" but most of all theory. I think to many its such a daunting and boring thing that most people simply ignore it ENTIRELY when learning guitar. They want to just play songs and while theory would help them understand everything you either have to read about it till your eyes bleed, which when people just want to play isn't going to happen, or you have to spend time looking for some decent bite sized lessons which I've never found good, non boring sources for.
Especially with things like Rocksmith you can learn some songs and drill some scales. There's a fun easy way to do that now which is great. But as sweet of a tool as it is it tells you absolutely fuck all about theory. I think a good, entertaining, comprehensive set of videos that keep things at a manageable length would go a long way to people just starting out that maybe want to learn more of the under the hood things but it's just so daunting they don't even bother.
It would be a hell of a lot of work probably though to explain things with decent visual aids and production. Then again I don't make videos so maybe it wouldn't be as bad as I think.
On November 17 2013 14:02 Wombat_NI wrote: TL is my go-to for even guitar discussion these days. Everywhere else is either too spammy, or I have to do some reading up before I even dare post at some of the other places.
I do have some good forums bookmarked on one of my other comps, might have a look later for you fine folks.
Anybody tried out an Axe FX 2 here?
:O for example?
Any brand-specific forum typically, especially the smaller, more hardcore ones. I'm not going to name names but I used to be one of the people who helped others identify what guitars they bought. If people barged in and said wrong stuff we were not afraid of not just telling them they were wrong, but explaining in detail just how wrong they were, usually with cited sources to show them. It scared some people away but others used it as a learning experience. We could be harsh but it was necessary because we weren't about to let anyone ruin our community atmosphere. When I first started I was on the receiving end of that a couple times but I learned quickly enough.
Well if someone barged into a thread in TL spouting crap there would also be people doing the same right? Mind giving me some details or examples please? I'm curious. You can PM me if you'd like
It's simply that some much smaller forums have much higher standards than most when it comes to posting. TL has high standards compared to most. I've been to places with even higher standards than TL. Usually places with a small number of active users, as in maybe a couple hundred versus the thousands on TL.
I'm not saying it's a bad thing. I was part of a couple and had great experiences with both, but in both cases they were quite hardcore about the subject matter and didn't take lightly to people spreading misinformation or guessing about things when they could have a proper sourced answer. To fit in properly you did have to know a ton about the subject matter.
Yeah it didn't appear negative to me either. I'm curious to find out how they're like. Please give me some examples
On November 18 2013 01:14 Teoita wrote: 2) Getting lessons vs learning on your own (this is subjective of course, but it's good to hear some input or at least both sides of the issue)
I really think when it comes to teachers it depends on your luck, especially as a beginner.
My sister has had shit teachers her whole life and I was the one who had to teach her the important things in music despite her starting only a few months earlier than me (eg: rhythm and accents, the use of scales, etc.) And when she finally found a good piano player who knows how and what to teach, he ended up being disinterested in teaching as he's too busy with his performing career.
Only after you've accumulated some knowledge will you know who is a good teacher and won't get stuck with a shitty one. Mine wasn't perfect, but he provided me with a strong foundation for the years I've been learning from him and I respect him a lot and am forever grateful to him for what he has taught me.
Nevertheless, I recommend taking classes, especially if it's your first instrument, and if you have knowledgeable friends who know good teachers (not good players but teachers) --- And be ready to find a new one if you discover that he's lacking in something or has some perspective towards music that you disagree with heavily because it will hinder your progress.
In my opinion, Youtube lessons are excellent and invaluable, especially for getting different perspectives. However, it's more useful for non-beginners as you need the feedback you'd get from a real teacher. Also, you'd need to be able to discern between shit advice and good advice. (hello expertvillage)
Good luck and practice hard!
On November 18 2013 22:39 Wombat_NI wrote: Thanks for the tips, bit busy ATM ill get posting a bigger response later.
Btw would anybody be game to do a TL collab jam track?
I don't expect this to go perfectly smoothly but I'd definitely like to give it a try!
Hm, I'll get thinking of a good way to do this. I've got my kid 24/7 until Tuesday so may as well preplan now?
I got a full DAW setup and all, when doing covers. I tend to get a full midi file and start arranging from there, then replace with proper tracking. so we could get a template we like, designate parts and get cracking.
Something like Dropbox for file transfer?
When recording a part (video for YouTube medley), do it with headphones ideally if you are playing with the backing track. That way the audio of your specific part will be isolated and can be mixed better.
Resync the videos, maybe splice in some iconic SC footage and we're good to go! Can fire the finished file back to whoever wants it, so nobody has a monopoly on uploading what is likely to be such a baller vid!
Firstly Themes to use? Terran ones would be pretty easy to use, I'm stuck on mobile Internet so can't link right now
Need to relisten to the Protoss and Zerg themes. The former surely has some room for 'tasteful' fusion breaks, the latter for some weird licks.
Holy crap, this is the greatest idea ever. Being in drastically different time zones is going to be difficult though as far as skype conversations go... I just got to work and its 9 am.
We should pick a piece to work with and pick which pieces we want. The songs are long so we can do quite a bit if we want to.
If anybody missed it, as far as the collab goes, for starcraft theme this is the most valuable arrangement made. Tbh the best thing would be a run where everybody interested puts in their contribution. Anything else would be hard to archieve
We just got to make sure everyones playing at the same bpm. Does anyone have a drum program? Ideally we should have one person do the drums so everyone isn't using different drum sounds.
Just play to whatever actual arrangement we end using.
Somebody (possibly me, I have a fair bit of equipment) can import it all into a DAW, mix it and it can be synced to the video. I am terrible at video editing though.
Some kind of cloud storage service would rock for this. I have around 9 gigabytes of Dropbox space, are you folks familiar with it?
I think the best idea is to do the "iconic" bw terran song; we could have like the basic parts down and re-record some guitars, maybe looping parts so each/some of us can solo over them. All we need is a decent backing track, then whoever wants to join in can take the file, record his part over it and send the file to the next person over, something like that.
What do you think of just using audacity for recording? It's actually pretty decent, and most importantly free so everyone has acess to it.
We just got to make sure everyones playing at the same bpm. Does anyone have a drum program? Ideally we should have one person do the drums so everyone isn't using different drum sounds.
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