[Q] E-sportsbar in Stockholm. - Page 5

On May 14 2011 01:18 zalz wrote:
http://www.kyotolounge.com/

Something along the lines of this?

Read about it a week or so ago on Rockpapershotgun, a unique idea indeed. I wonder how much money there actually is in a genuine cross between bar and internet cafe with a high-quality feel to it.

Most internet cafe's in Holland are populated with:

1) People that can't afford internet
2) People with hair to their knees

They are also almost always filled to the brim with a stench of weed. Not exactly the kind of place where i would like to be seen, let alone spend an entire night.

On May 14 2011 01:21 hifriend wrote:
I'd check it out for sure. I love e-sports and alcohol.

If such a place existed, there's no way in hell I'd ever watch a MSL/OSL/GSL/TSL final at home by myself again.

On May 14 2011 01:47 NorthernRiver wrote:
To be honest I probably wouldn't go. The people I go to bars with don't like eSports (probably haven't even heard of it) and I'm sure there are others with friends like me. Also, a lot of people following eSports aren't legally allowed to drink. I'm sure there will be bars like this in the future but maybe it's too narrow to make profit of it today.

It's a cool concept though so good luck if you choose to pursue the idea!

On May 14 2011 01:49 Hasse wrote:


Doing liveshows of Korean finals might be hard due to the difference in timezones, would you still go if the final was aired at the bar a few hours after it was played?

On May 14 2011 01:46 Hasse wrote:

Not sure, but I'm not too convinced about that concept, that just feels like a luxury pc cafe rather than sportsbar that airs the finest e-sports around.

On May 14 2011 01:47 NorthernRiver wrote:
To be honest I probably wouldn't go. The people I go to bars with don't like eSports (probably haven't even heard of it) and I'm sure there are others with friends like me. Also, a lot of people following eSports aren't legally allowed to drink. I'm sure there will be bars like this in the future but maybe it's too narrow to make profit of it today.

It's a cool concept though so good luck if you choose to pursue the idea!

Why are my posts always so long : (

On May 14 2011 02:48 Earll wrote:

I am sure most people passionate about esports would either have at least 1 friend interested in e-sports, or be able\willing to go to it alone to meet likeminded people. Going to a supposed e-sports bar would not be your average going out drinking experience I guess.

I definitely think there could be a market for something like this in the bigger cities. Though making it an all out e-sportsbar might be a bit too hopeful. But just starting more of a "regular" type bar, where people can come and have a drink and hang out, and giving it a gaming theme (not going as far as mana bar in my opinion) Just having like some Arcade Machines and some Gaming decorations but still making it somewhat of a regular bar. Then having a weekly esports night (Also adding specific events such as Finals etc.) Could also have various other 'themed'/'event' nights, running game tournaments (Thinking more silly\console game tournaments than E-sports tournaments though) etc.

This would accomplish a couple of things, first of all not going full gaming would not alienate the rest of the world. If you make it a fullblown esports bar/gaming bar a lot of people will not be that interested in going there, and even e-sports enthusiasts might be hesitant to bring their friends there. So you can both keep a somewhat "regular"clientelle and possibly convert some of them to esports fans through the esports nights, while still not relying 100% on the esports crowd to keep the place running. Secondly, without going too far in my generalizations, I am sure there are tons of "e-sports" enthusiasts, who do not go out to bars that much, but who would enjoy going to bars every now and then (even on non e-sports nights) if it was in an environment they knew and were comfortable in, and had people they knew and a lot of people whom with they shared the same interest of gaming\e-sports. And Although I have little experience with running a bar myself, I am under the impression that a lot of bars rely very heavily on the return customers who hang out at their favorite watering hole. I am sure if done right that a gaming bar could get a lot of veteran customers as there are a lot of gamers in most cities who are ripe for the picking in being your return customers.

I don't think the age thing is as big of a deal, tons of people above 18 (drinking age in sweden) are interested in e-sports, and you could always allow younger people in for events I guess, and have some sort of bracelet system for alcoholic drinks. That being said its not like younger people do not have fake ID's and/or borrow ID's =p

One of the bigger drawbacks as mentioned is the tournament times, GSL and TSL And other big tournaments are not that often run in prime bar time, so I am guessing either this needs to be fixed by the tournament organizers in a way that NASL Has done, or just having taping them and having recast of them yourself ( I am unsure of how hard it would be to be allowed to do that. For tournaments like TSL it would probably be a breeze for obvious reasons, no idea with GSL though.)

For questions about licensing I would atleast start out by just mailing the respective companies and tell them about your idea and ask what you would\would not be allowed to use. I know some companies (for example blizzard) are often very supportive of their community and do not mind people using their work as long as it is not done in the spirit of directly profiting from it.

Why are my posts always so long : (