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PiousMartyr
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada176 Posts
April 07 2011 21:02 GMT
#141
On April 08 2011 06:01 ahswtini wrote:
It's nothing to do with PEDMAS/BODMAS. How would you write 48/2 multiplied by (9+3) then?



48*(9+3)
------------
2
wilsonreis
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil97 Posts
April 07 2011 21:03 GMT
#142
On April 08 2011 05:58 SirazTV wrote:
Meh, its just notation semantics not really a math problem.



Tarski would beg to differ. Math is a language and all issues with it´s semantics are actually math problems.

ppdealer
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada163 Posts
April 07 2011 21:04 GMT
#143
Why are people still arguing? I thought the answer is obvious.

On April 08 2011 05:41 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2011 05:40 ppdealer wrote:
The answer is obviously 2:
www.google.com/search?q=48÷2(9+3)


LOL you didn't even click your own link?

http://img822.imageshack.us/i/googleqj.png/

On April 08 2011 05:46 WarChimp wrote:
It is definitely 288 even after I fucked up and went and wrote down 2. I checked good ole trusty Wolfram|Alpha and here is their result

http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=48÷2(9+3)

http://img864.imageshack.us/i/wolfram.png/

I don't what you're seeing, but as far as I can see the answer is 2.
Phaded
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia579 Posts
April 07 2011 21:04 GMT
#144
On April 08 2011 05:59 Reptilia wrote:
well, its pity to see ppl saying things like "WTF are ppl thinking" or "full of trolls"
when the problem is this.
Is omitting multiplication sign stronger than another multiplication/division
i'd say no. However maybe it is because of an algebraic convention
If it was:
48/2n
would u say 24/n? or 24n?

24n

if you actually wrote 48/2n left to right in a line in a maths exam, it would be treated as 24n and you would lose marks if you meant 24/n, unless you wrote the expression as

48
----
2n

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bRuTaL!!
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland588 Posts
April 07 2011 21:04 GMT
#145
I answered 2. Pretty simple why I was wrong. I never write division in a line. But like this:

48
----------
2

So when I see 48/2*12, it looks to me like the 2*12 is under the line.
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GizmoPT
Profile Joined May 2010
Portugal3040 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-07 21:07:36
April 07 2011 21:04 GMT
#146
48/2(9+3) i dunno about you guys but this is

48
-------
2(9+3)


so first we make 2*9 + 2*3 = 18+6 = 24

then 48 / 24 = 2 thanks...

this is right wtv people say so wtv im engineer ;(

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Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
April 07 2011 21:04 GMT
#147
Except none of this is math knowledge, it is just an equation written really ambiguously.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
April 07 2011 21:04 GMT
#148
This is basic mathematics where you learn about priorities of things.

Parenthesis
Then Division/Multiplication (left to right)
Addition Subtraction
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Craze
Profile Joined July 2010
United States561 Posts
April 07 2011 21:05 GMT
#149
People are probably looking at it as

48
------
2(12)

rather than the way it is written, which most American math students see little of; they jump straight into computing and writing problems as fractions.

Another failure of our shitty education system
Zeburial
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Sweden1126 Posts
April 07 2011 21:05 GMT
#150
It's 288..
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munchmunch
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada789 Posts
April 07 2011 21:05 GMT
#151
How you should interpret this expression, from the perspective of a practicing mathematician:

1. 48 / 2 * (3 + 9) = 288, unambiguously.

2. 48 / 2(3+9) should probably be read as inline notation for 48 over 2 * (3+9), hence 2. If this is not clear from context, seek clarification.

3. 48 DivisionSymbol 2(3+9). Mathematical writing style indicates a good chance that the author is confused, or trying to confuse. Seek clarification.

Explanation of #3: division symbols are not really used outside of high school and elementary school classrooms. Also, if an expression refers to a calculation to be performed, then good style would indicate that all operators should be written out explicitly, as in #1. If an expression refers to the result of a calculation, then it should be simplified as much as possible, and can then be written as an inline fraction as in #2. An example where an inline fraction would be appropriate is if the result of a calculation involves indeterminates, such as 48 / 2(x+y).
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
April 07 2011 21:05 GMT
#152
Oh my God.

Ok, you guys are officially hurting my eyes.
billyX333
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States1360 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-07 21:06:45
April 07 2011 21:05 GMT
#153
LMFAO
i read through that thread, absolutely certain that it reached over 60 pages solely because of trolls but there are definitely people who seriously think its 2 (read hilariously stupid posts by frank112)
Kenderson
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada280 Posts
April 07 2011 21:06 GMT
#154
I didn't know there were all kinds of different ways of writing the acronym. I learned BEDMAS, and I got 288. Brackets, Exponents, Division, Multiplication, Addition, Subtraction.
"Faced with what is right, to leave it undone shows a lack of courage." -Confucious
xZiGGY
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom801 Posts
April 07 2011 21:06 GMT
#155
The statement isn't ambiguous, it's just poorly written. xDD
Meh.
insaneMicro
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Germany761 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-07 21:08:16
April 07 2011 21:06 GMT
#156
lol @ the Misc <3

Still dont get how so many people come up with two, actually took me some time to see why. 150 trolls?
Maybe this has to do with how you are taught to read equations in school.
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thesideshow
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
930 Posts
April 07 2011 21:07 GMT
#157
On April 08 2011 06:02 koreasilver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2011 05:57 MasterOfChaos wrote:
The question here isn't how to evaluate a/b*c but if an omitted multiplication sign has higher priority than normal multiplication.
But the one thing I've learned after professors abusing notation in so many ways is that you define mathematical symbols just like it is convenient for you.

12/2(n+y) = 6(n+y) or 12/(2n+2y)? It has always been 12/(2n+2y) for me, regardless of what math course from middle school to university.


This.
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Pika Chu
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Romania2510 Posts
April 07 2011 21:07 GMT
#158
God that bodybuilders thread is gold, every time in a while someone would come call everyone imbeciles and say the wrong answer ).
They first ignore you. After they laugh at you. Next they will fight you. In the end you will win.
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
April 07 2011 21:07 GMT
#159
On April 08 2011 06:06 xZiGGY wrote:
The statement isn't ambiguous, it's just poorly written. xDD

It is poorly written as to actually suggest multiple ways of doing it, if that isn't ambiguous, I am not sure what is.
TheRhox
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada868 Posts
April 07 2011 21:07 GMT
#160
why does this thread have to exist? do people really have trouble with this?
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