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TheGrimace
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States929 Posts
April 07 2011 20:58 GMT
#121
How can someone be bad at doing what I'm good at doing? Illogical! Preposterous! To the polls! We must oust the heathens!

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I've seen this on 4chan more than a few times. I know people are upset that TL would miss a math problem (as funny as that mindset is), but I'd be more upset that TL is recycling old 4chan troll posts.
Klamity
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States994 Posts
April 07 2011 20:59 GMT
#122
the way it's presented tripped me up for a bit. i'm amazed so many people picked two lol
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BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
April 07 2011 20:59 GMT
#123
40% of TL doesn't understand 6th grade pre-algebra =[
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
April 07 2011 20:59 GMT
#124
people mistook 48/2(9+3) AS 48 / [2 * (9 + 3)] instead of 48 / 2 * (9 + 3)

this is a common mistake due to the multiplier was "hidden" so people prioritizing the bracket first and do the closest thing to the bracket which is the 2.

The correct answer should be the result of calculation that is made from left to right by order in which brackets are the ONLY prioritize.
=> 288

again, there was NO BRACKET infront of the multiplier therefore it should be execute after the division by 2 =__=
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n00b3rt
Profile Joined May 2010
Bulgaria890 Posts
April 07 2011 20:59 GMT
#125
I'm seriously losing faith in humanity here
Yeah, whatever
Cite
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia251 Posts
April 07 2011 20:59 GMT
#126
Going to go ahead and say that this was designed to just cause this. I mean if that was not the sole purpose of it they'd have just written it out like google imo =p.

Btw yes I am one of those guys that will sway their answer when they see a poll and I started the problem did the parenthesis (god forbid anyone doesn't do that first at least) and then saw the possible answers n somehow made my self settle on 2 as being the answer.
DensitY
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand74 Posts
April 07 2011 20:59 GMT
#127
I get 288

In school I was taught BEDMAS methodology

B-brackets
E-exponents
DM-multiply or divide (left to right)
AS-add subtract (left to right)

so yeah pretty simple.
Reptilia
Profile Joined June 2010
Chile913 Posts
April 07 2011 20:59 GMT
#128
well, its pity to see ppl saying things like "WTF are ppl thinking" or "full of trolls"
when the problem is this.
Is omitting multiplication sign stronger than another multiplication/division
i'd say no. However maybe it is because of an algebraic convention
If it was:
48/2n
would u say 24/n? or 24n?
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Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
April 07 2011 20:59 GMT
#129
i got 2, but i realized im a retard lol
Dataleif
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden252 Posts
April 07 2011 20:59 GMT
#130
48÷2(9+3) is not the same as 48÷(2(9+3)). Simple as that.
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
April 07 2011 21:01 GMT
#131
It's nothing to do with PEDMAS/BODMAS. How would you write 48/2 multiplied by (9+3) then?
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Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5599 Posts
April 07 2011 21:01 GMT
#132
Oh I sure am stupid.

But seriously though, this has nothing to do with intelligence you just have to understand the signs.
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Munk-E
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States672 Posts
April 07 2011 21:01 GMT
#133
On April 08 2011 05:57 MasterOfChaos wrote:
The question here isn't how to evaluate a/b*c but if an omitted multiplication sign has higher priority than normal multiplication.

Of course it doesn't, Why on earth would it? It's just an unneeded multiplication sign that wasn't written!
It could easily be rewritten as 48/2*(9+3)
would that make it less confusing?
I am disappointed at the poll
but it seems to be getting better
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aristarchus
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States652 Posts
April 07 2011 21:01 GMT
#134
Wow.... just wow...

My favorite part of this thread is the people claiming that "where they are from" the rules are different... I guarantee mathematicians have long ago standardized notation to the point this is not true.
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
April 07 2011 21:01 GMT
#135
On April 08 2011 05:59 Dataleif wrote:
48÷2(9+3) is not the same as 48÷(2(9+3)). Simple as that.


lol so that is how they are getting 2...amusing.
Fabix
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria14 Posts
April 07 2011 21:02 GMT
#136
On April 08 2011 05:41 Kippers wrote:
Its BIDMAS surely?

48÷2(9+3)

Brackets mean this comes first = 9+3 = 12
The number out side of brackets prioritises over division so;
2*12=24

48/24 = 2.

Right? Or did i mis-memorise something.

yeah... you missed that you only calculate the brackets first which means

48÷2(9+3)

48÷2*12

which leads us to a simple calculation with only divisions and multiplications,
so you start from the left and calculate the division first:

48÷2*12 = 24*12 = 288


seriously guys, 2??? i think there are some simple math guides needed inhere!
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
April 07 2011 21:02 GMT
#137
On April 08 2011 05:57 MasterOfChaos wrote:
The question here isn't how to evaluate a/b*c but if an omitted multiplication sign has higher priority than normal multiplication.
But the one thing I've learned after professors abusing notation in so many ways is that you define mathematical symbols just like it is convenient for you.

12/2(n+y) = 6(n+y) or 12/(2n+2y)? It has always been 12/(2n+2y) for me, regardless of what math course from middle school to university.
goldemerald
Profile Joined January 2011
United States39 Posts
April 07 2011 21:02 GMT
#138
On April 08 2011 05:57 Zlasher wrote:
Wow I can't believe how many of you guys GENUINELY think its 2 lol.

P in PEMDAS means whats in the parenthesis, but when you treat the parenthetical as a multiplication, its just a multiplication

So it becomes 48/2*(9+3)

so you do parenthesis first

48/2*12

then order of operations, 48/2 first

24*12

which is 288


ROFL wtf, you site PEMDAS, but then you use it wrong? You best be trolling.

48/2 is not first because it is D(ivision). You have to do the M(ultiplication) first, thus getting 2. I feel like this is a 4chan thread where everyone is just getting trolled by OP.
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Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
April 07 2011 21:02 GMT
#139
I picked 288 because it's bigger
I have issues
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Diks
Profile Joined January 2010
Belgium1880 Posts
April 07 2011 21:02 GMT
#140
On April 08 2011 05:59 n00b3rt wrote:
I'm seriously losing faith in humanity here


lol, I admit I'm very surprised, even more 20 minutes ago when "2" was by far on top of the poll...
I think some guys read the forum to pick the right answer after that. Otherwise I really don't get how come the 200 first voting people are much less math-knowledged than the next 200.
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