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http://www.lbc.co.uk/assad-terrorists-must-not-exploit-syria-truce-125404 Assad: Terrorists Must Not Exploit Syria Truce
Saturday, 20th February 2016 21:37
President Bashar al-Assad says he is prepared for a ceasefire in Syria's civil war providing it would not be exploited by "terrorists".
"We have said that we are ready to stop military operations, but the issue relates to more important factors ... such as preventing terrorists from using it to improve their positions," he said.
The Syrian president added that any truce must ensure that "other countries, especially Turkey, are prevented from sending more terrorists and weapons, or any kind of logistical support".
It comes as Syria's opposition agreed to a truce on condition Russia halts its airstrikes, sieges are ended and access for aid is allowed across the country, according to a source close to peace talks.
A plan was agreed for a "nationwide cessation" of violence in the war-torn country a week ago. However, Islamic State, al Nusra and other militant groups will not be involved in the truce.
Russia, meanwhile, has said it will continue its bombing campaign, which it says is designed to help Damascus fight "terrorist" groups.
US Secretary of State John Kerry urged that a ceasefire deal be agreed as soon as possible during a phone call with Russia's Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov.
"The Secretary expressed his hope that a full cessation of hostilities could be achieved in the shortest timeframe possible," State Department spokesman John Kirby said in a statement. it's a stalling attempt most likely but who really knows.
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http://www.dpa-international.com/news/top_stories/kerry-provisional-agreement-with-russia-on-syria-truce-terms-a-48366410.html Cairo (dpa) - A "provisional agreement in principle" for a truce to end Syria's fighting is in sight, US Secretary of State John Kerry said Sunday, after reporting an agreement with his Russian counterpart, Sergei Lavrov.
Kerry, speaking in the Jordanian capital, Amman, said he had spoken with Lavrov an hour earlier and that the truce "could begin in the coming days," although he warned that the deal was "not yet done."
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Kerry said that a task force chaired by Russia and the US had been working intensively in recent days "to develop modalities for the cessation of hostilities."
The Russian Foreign Ministry confirmed, in a statement carried by the official TASS news agency, that Kerry and Lavrov had spoken about the "modality and terms for truce in Syria, with the exception for the operation against terrorists."
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Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, in an interview with the Spanish newspaper El Pais, hinted that that last proviso could be yet another stumbling block to any truce actually taking effect.
Al-Assad said that "of course" there would be further fighting against terrorists, adding that Syria and Russia had "announced four names: Ahrar al-Cham and Jaish al-Islam and al-Nusra and ISIS [Islamic State]."
While the US agrees that Islamic State and al-Nusra Front - the Syrian branch of al-Qaeda - are terrorist groups that will not be covered by any truce, the other two groups mentioned by al-Assad are among the largest rebel forces fighting on the ground in Syria and are seen by Western countries as essential to any peace process.
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Regarding the pocket to the East of Aleppo, apparently, in the night from 19 to 20 February, ISIS began to divert troops from this pocket and at the time the gap closed, there were not so many groups left. That led to the rapid collapse of the' boiler', which led to the release of a large piece of territory. So during the day, the pocket was cut into two parts and organized resistance within it ceased. Now the Syrian army has the task of eliminating ISIS residues that did not have time to retreat, as well as combing through the liberated territory.
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edit: This has cut the length of the front line against ISIS significantly, which gives the Syrian army a bit more breathing room
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ISIS defences buckling under pressure in eastern Syria.
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https://now.mmedia.me/lb/en/NewsReports/566643-damascus-rebels-pledge-allegiance-to-nusra
BEIRUT – Two Islamist factions based in a northeastern district of Damascus that has been subject to a truce have pledged allegiance to the Al-Nusra Front, the latest merger among rebel groups in war-torn Syria.
“Ansar al-Sharia’a and Al-Muntasir Billah announce their full incorporation into the branch of Al-Qaeda in [Syria], Al-Nusra Front,” a spokesperson said in a video released Sunday on Nusra’s Twitter account.
“[The two groups] pledge [their] allegiance to the conquering sheikh Abu Mohammed al-Jolani [Nusra’s chief] in submission and obedience.”
Near the start of the video, the spokesperson, who stood in front of fighters holding aloft a Nusra flag, quoted a passage on unity from the fourth verse of the Quran’s Surat Al-Saf.
“Verily, God loves those who fight in His cause in a row as though they are a [single] structure joined firmly.”
The two small Islamist factions, he said, had vowed to fight “the hateful Russians, Rafidhites [pejorative term for Shiites] and Nusairis [pejorative term for Alawites].”
“This shall continue until God’s sharia’a alone rules in accordance with the clear way of the prophethood,” the spokesperson added, in a clear reference to Nusra’s goal of establishing Islamist governance. ...has been subject to a truce refers to the latest provisional agreement reached on 'cessation of hostilities' between Russia and US.
http://www.todayszaman.com/national_document-reveals-turkish-military-cooperates-with-isil-at-border-daily-claims_412973.html Wiretapped telephone calls between a leading figure from the Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) and several members of the Turkish military reveal cooperation between ISIL and the Turkish military in letting smugglers cross the Turkey-Syria border, a report by a Turkish daily has alleged.
Documents prepared by a prosecutor's office contain a large number of transcripts of “friendly” telephone communications between military officers and Mustafa Demir, the ISIL head in charge of Turkey's Syria border, the Cumhuriyet daily said on Monday.
The prosecutor's documents reportedly say Turkish military officials also met with Demir on the border. The ISIL leader is indicated in the documents as the person behind the transportation of bombs from Syria to Turkey.
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isis making alot of gains in southern allepo , they appaerantly cut off the main supply line of assad to alleppo .
Anybody have some intel / details about those fights ?
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http://english.ahram.org.eg/News/188237.aspx
The Islamic State (IS) group and other militants on Monday cut a vital supply route linking the west of Syria's second city Aleppo with other government-held territory, a monitoring group said.
The road between Aleppo and the town of Khanasser to the southeast was the only way regime forces and civilians living in government-controlled neighbourhoods of the city could travel to surrounding provinces.
If government forces are unable to recapture the road, it could slow an offensive they launched in the countryside around Aleppo earlier this year.
And it could worsen severe shortages of food and water for civilians.
"Militants from the Caucasus and from (China's mainly Muslim region of) Xinjiang, as well as the militants group Jund al-Aqsa, cut the route from the south after a surprise attack," said Syrian Observatory for Human Rights chief Rami Abdel Rahman.
"And fighters from IS group cut off a different part of the route from the northern side at the same time," Abdel Rahman said.
Thousands of foreign fighters have flocked to Syria over the past two years, many of them taking up arms with Al-Qaeda affiliate Al-Nusra Front, IS group or Jund al-Aqsa.
It is not the first time that the government's supply route to Aleppo has been cut.
Rebel cut it in 2013 and IS group did so last year before being pushed back.
The new setback comes with government troops on the offensive north and west of Aleppo, where rebel forces in the east of the city are almost completely surrounded.
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http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-35634695
A ceasefire in Syria agreed by Russia and the US is scheduled to come into effect at midnight on 27 February, a draft of the plan reveals.
The timing follows talks between US Secretary of State John Kerry and his Russian counterpart at the weekend.
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The Al-Jazeera TV network said it had obtained a draft of the US-Russia deal with the date included.
The network also said warring parties would have to agree to the truce by 26 February, but this has not been confirmed elsewhere.
Reuters quoted Western diplomatic sources as saying the ceasefire would not include so-called Islamic State (IS) or the al-Qaeda-linked Nusra Front.
Analysts say there will be huge scepticism about the possibility of an effective ceasefire, given the current fighting and failure of the first deadline.
Mr Kerry said on Sunday he and Russian counterpart, Sergei Lavrov, had reached a provisional agreement on the terms for a truce. who knows, maybe this time ...
Edit: more on this http://www.albawaba.com/news/breaking-provisional-agreement-reached-says-syrian-opposition-808676 Riad Hijab, the coordinator for the Syrian opposition, announced that a provisional agreement on a temporary truce in Syria was reached, according to reports from the pro-Syrian opposition Orient TV on Monday.
Hijab, a former Syrian prime minister who now leads the Saudi-backed opposition High Negotiations Committee, emphasized that the agreement would be enacted "according to international guarantees".
The committee was meeting on Monday in Saudi Arabia to discuss a U.S.-Russian plan for a ceasefire.
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http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2016/02/253115.htm
Joint Statement of the United States and the Russian Federation, as Co-Chairs of the ISSG, on Cessation of Hostilities in Syria
Washington, DC
February 22, 2016
and also includes
Terms for cessation of hostilities in Syria
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On February 22 2016 22:34 zion wrote:
isis making alot of gains in southern allepo , they appaerantly cut off the main supply line of assad to alleppo .
Anybody have some intel / details about those fights ?
The same thing happened in the fall of 2015. ISIS attacked and cut off the road and I think it took something like 2 weeks to clear out but don't quote me on that.
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This is a much lesser ordeal than that though. ISIS and al-Nusra/FSA coordinated attacks on the Khanasser road yesterday/today and appear to have achieved tactical success ie. they blocked the road. If we take into account the operational situation around Aleppo, the background defeat of ISIS to the East of Aleppo, ISIS is conducting a local counterattack, which is late by about a week, hoping to change the situation to the East of Aleppo. Maybe using the troops that managed to escape encirclement.
The maximum that ISIS can squeeze out of this operation is for it to block the route for a few days and prevent the supply of the Syrian troops at Aleppo, and to force the redeployment of troops from Aleppo to lift the blockade. The main problem for ISIS are the difficulties of keeping control over that road, because they have no actual air defenses and almost no heavy armor. As a result, after their initial success, cue SAA countermeasures and ISIS retreats.
So the SAA has a local crisis, which is unpleasant for them, but there will be no critical consequences. However, the counterattack of ISIS shows that although they have suffered a defeat, they will not surrender or sit in defence, they are ready to shed blood till the end. Assad will kick their shit in on this one though, its amazing how little threat there was to this road since October of last year seeing how thin that supply line is (was).
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http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/M/ML_SYRIA_THE_LATEST?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2016-02-22-15-52-49
Assad calls for parliament elections in April 13
BEIRUT (AP) -- Syrian President Bashar Assad has called for parliamentary elections to be held in April.
A U.N. Security Council resolution adopted in December calls for parliamentary and presidential elections to be held during an 18-month transition period that would end the five-year-old conflict in Syria.
But the country was due for parliament elections anyway, as the current parliament's term expires in May. Assad announced in a decree issued Monday that new parliament elections would be April 13. Such elections are held once every four years.
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On February 23 2016 03:24 xM(Z wrote:http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2016/02/253115.htm Joint Statement of the United States and the Russian Federation, as Co-Chairs of the ISSG, on Cessation of Hostilities in SyriaWashington, DC February 22, 2016 and also includes Terms for cessation of hostilities in Syria
I particularly like how the ceasefire excludes the actual parties everybody is fighting against. Still a good thing. At least it should prevent escalation on the Kurdish front and between the Turks and Russians.
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BAGHDAD (Reuters)- - As fighting in Iraq raged last summer, Iranian Major-General Qassem Soleimani came across unexpected opposition to his plans to defeat Islamic State.
Soleimani is the commander of Iran's al-Quds brigade and has been a key figure in the fight against the Sunni Islamist group in Iraq. That fight has been led not by Iraq's army but by Iranian-backed Shi'ite militias.
But in August, Iraqi Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi told Soleimani that a planned assault on the Sunni city of Ramadi should be left to the Iraqi army, according to a government official and two diplomats.
Abadi, a 64-year-old Shi'ite, wanted the militias to stay away to avoid inflaming ethnic tensions, the sources said.
Abadi's office declined to comment on the story, which has been repeated in Baghdad's diplomatic circles for months. Three Iraqi politicians denied it ever happened.
But the government official and the diplomats said the incident was one of a series of moves by Abadi to assert his authority as leader and to distance himself from Tehran and the militias that came to Baghdad's rescue in 2014 and early 2015.
Abadi has begun to push for reconciliation between Iraq's Shi'ites and Sunnis, and for better relations with Sunni Arab neighbors like Saudi Arabia, they said.
If he can bridge the gap between rival sectarian communities as he has promised, he will have gone a long way towards reuniting a country which has been deeply riven since the fall of Saddam Hussein in 2003.
According to the government official and the two diplomats, Abadi also objected to Soleimani's plane landing at Baghdad airport without prior permission. Abadi was also irritated that Soleimani used an official VIP hall at the airport when entering Iraq, even though he was not officially invited by the government.
The deterioration in their relationship, the sources said, began in August when Soleimani attended a top Iraqi security meeting run by Abadi and behaved in, what one source said, was "a bossy manner as if Iraq was an Iranian protectorate".
This, the sources said, had led Abadi to ask Soleimani why he was at the meeting. The Iranian general had then left.
"Abadi questioned his presence. It was a matter of Iraqi sovereignty and nationalism," one Western diplomat said. Abadi's office declined to comment.
The Iraqi government official said Abadi and Soleimani had not fought but were "keeping an operational, business-like relationship. We can't say it's warm".
Whatever the case, Soleimani has receded from public view in Iraq in the past six months. The omnipresent posters and television images of him on the battlefield have all but disappeared.
There are likely to be limits to that change. Iran's allies within Abadi's Shi'ite camp are pushing back against his more muscular stance, while the collapse in oil prices has cut the government budget, said Hisham al-Hashemi, an Iraqi government adviser and an expert on Islamic State.
For now though, Abadi seems to be trying to deliver on his initial address to parliament in 2014 in which he painted a vision of a decentralized and united Iraq.
uk.reuters.com
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http://www.todayszaman.com/national_dna-matching-proves-govt-falsely-identified-ankara-suicide-bomber_413026.html As 14 of the 21 suspects detained as part of the investigation into last week's deadly car-bomb attack in Ankara were arrested on Monday, a Turkish news portal has said the DNA analysis reveals that the government has falsely announced the suicide bomber.
The attacker is not Salih Neccar as was claimed by the government but rather Abdulbaki Sömer, as was announced by the Kurdistan Freedom Falcons (TAK), the Cumhuriyet daily's news portal said on Monday.
It became clear that the attacker was Abdulbaki after the DNA sample taken from Sömer's father, Musa Sömer, matched with the DNA sample of the attacker, the news portal said.
Turkish Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoğlu said, less than 24 hours after the attack, that Neccar, a Syrian national who he said is a member of the Syrian wing of the Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK), had conducted the attack with the PKK's collaboration.
TAK, which is linked to the PKK, claimed responsibility for the attack a day after Davutoğlu's statement, saying the perpetrator is Abdülbaki, a 26-year-old Turkish national born in the eastern city of Van. i would expect a play against Erdogan in some future with him ending up dead or on trial in some EU court for colluding with ISIS.
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On February 24 2016 02:57 xM(Z wrote:http://www.todayszaman.com/national_dna-matching-proves-govt-falsely-identified-ankara-suicide-bomber_413026.html Show nested quote +As 14 of the 21 suspects detained as part of the investigation into last week's deadly car-bomb attack in Ankara were arrested on Monday, a Turkish news portal has said the DNA analysis reveals that the government has falsely announced the suicide bomber.
The attacker is not Salih Neccar as was claimed by the government but rather Abdulbaki Sömer, as was announced by the Kurdistan Freedom Falcons (TAK), the Cumhuriyet daily's news portal said on Monday.
It became clear that the attacker was Abdulbaki after the DNA sample taken from Sömer's father, Musa Sömer, matched with the DNA sample of the attacker, the news portal said.
Turkish Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoğlu said, less than 24 hours after the attack, that Neccar, a Syrian national who he said is a member of the Syrian wing of the Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK), had conducted the attack with the PKK's collaboration.
TAK, which is linked to the PKK, claimed responsibility for the attack a day after Davutoğlu's statement, saying the perpetrator is Abdülbaki, a 26-year-old Turkish national born in the eastern city of Van. i would expect a play against Erdogan in some future with him ending up dead or on trial in some EU court for colluding with ISIS.
I dont get your post. What does the news article about a PKK bombing have to do with ISIS or with Erdogan collaborating with them?
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On February 24 2016 03:17 Redox wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2016 02:57 xM(Z wrote:http://www.todayszaman.com/national_dna-matching-proves-govt-falsely-identified-ankara-suicide-bomber_413026.html As 14 of the 21 suspects detained as part of the investigation into last week's deadly car-bomb attack in Ankara were arrested on Monday, a Turkish news portal has said the DNA analysis reveals that the government has falsely announced the suicide bomber.
The attacker is not Salih Neccar as was claimed by the government but rather Abdulbaki Sömer, as was announced by the Kurdistan Freedom Falcons (TAK), the Cumhuriyet daily's news portal said on Monday.
It became clear that the attacker was Abdulbaki after the DNA sample taken from Sömer's father, Musa Sömer, matched with the DNA sample of the attacker, the news portal said.
Turkish Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoğlu said, less than 24 hours after the attack, that Neccar, a Syrian national who he said is a member of the Syrian wing of the Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK), had conducted the attack with the PKK's collaboration.
TAK, which is linked to the PKK, claimed responsibility for the attack a day after Davutoğlu's statement, saying the perpetrator is Abdülbaki, a 26-year-old Turkish national born in the eastern city of Van. i would expect a play against Erdogan in some future with him ending up dead or on trial in some EU court for colluding with ISIS. I dont get your post. What does the news article about a PKK bombing have to do with ISIS or with Erdogan collaborating with them?
That's an xM(Z post in a nutshell. One or more completely unrelated statements dumped into a thread followed by a third, again completely unrelated "conclusion".
Kind of like A) Volkswagen offered a deal in diesel engine scandal in the US combined with B) former French foreign minister Fabius hinting at Obamas weakness in not responding to chemical weapon use in Syria leads to C) Germany loses out when trying to screw with the Russians over gas.
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Woops! Looks like i've missed all the fun, damn those war scenarios no matter what Russians win in the end, Russian versus local forces, Russians win, Russians versus U.S, Russians own with ultra-superb-secret jamming technology, Russians versus aliens, Russians dominate because they have china and northern korea allied with them and they killed many Nazis back in those days!.. And funny half of the putinbots aren't even Russians.
But in reality, a country with decent force with ok modernity, -not having superpower or secret jamming devices i mean here- can dare to take down a superb jet of most powerful superpower of holy Russia. Why? Because they all know Russia isn't as powerful as it claims itself. I won't say it has no power, but it's so weak that their only option is playing same-old nuke cards over and over again. Sorry but only weaklings would threaten humanity with nukes or try to wage fear with them. Thanks god they are recently doing it with s400s, at least that's something solid and game.
And no, i don't think the Turks and Arabs would beat Russians or Russians would beat the Turks. They would just bite each other hard. I'm actually quite shocked when Putin called that it was stab in the back. If Ukraine, Netherlands or even US were in that position, they would shoot down those planes too. Russia said plane was no threat to Turkey even if it did violate turkish airspace. That came after hours of denial... Russians needed an excuse to become hostile with Turkey and deploy more army. Last week or 2 weeks ago they violated Turkish air space again. For what purpose? It was again a bullying attempt to target Turkey. What would happen if Turkey did shoot it? Putin would go air and deny the violation again but this time, with a smile on his face, putinbots would be talking about how Turkey chose to be aggressive again and got ass kicked, urah! These air space violations are either russian-type bullying that they purposely commit or their radars are so shit pilots don't notice. Pick one.
On February 24 2016 02:57 xM(Z wrote:http://www.todayszaman.com/national_dna-matching-proves-govt-falsely-identified-ankara-suicide-bomber_413026.html Show nested quote +As 14 of the 21 suspects detained as part of the investigation into last week's deadly car-bomb attack in Ankara were arrested on Monday, a Turkish news portal has said the DNA analysis reveals that the government has falsely announced the suicide bomber.
The attacker is not Salih Neccar as was claimed by the government but rather Abdulbaki Sömer, as was announced by the Kurdistan Freedom Falcons (TAK), the Cumhuriyet daily's news portal said on Monday.
It became clear that the attacker was Abdulbaki after the DNA sample taken from Sömer's father, Musa Sömer, matched with the DNA sample of the attacker, the news portal said.
Turkish Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoğlu said, less than 24 hours after the attack, that Neccar, a Syrian national who he said is a member of the Syrian wing of the Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK), had conducted the attack with the PKK's collaboration.
TAK, which is linked to the PKK, claimed responsibility for the attack a day after Davutoğlu's statement, saying the perpetrator is Abdülbaki, a 26-year-old Turkish national born in the eastern city of Van. i would expect a play against Erdogan in some future with him ending up dead or on trial in some EU court for colluding with ISIS.
TAK is sub PKK group known with civilian attacks. See how fast you start to see their names when PKK start to lose in eastern Turkey. So what's gonna happen to all that lefty rhetoric whitewashes PKK with bs "they are angels who only attack to evil turkish guards to get decent rights and fight ISIL heroically! YAAAAY! They got female fighters too!!" propaganda?
And dear russian affiliate, TAK itself declared it was Neccar, they even prepared a statement for him with a fake picture. Now they are changing their words, deleting all those tweets etc. Neccar or whoever, it was still PKK. Your beloved friendly puppet WHICH has PROBLEMS with almost all the housing countries but of course, İranians were wrong, Iraqis were wrong, Syrians were wrong, Turks were wrong, Assyrians were wrong, even Iraqi Kurds are wrong yet PKK is the only modern, prowest, secular, kurdish right savior organization. Once Assad is done with the opposition he will turn on kurds like he and his father did for 40 years before the war. Then we'll see if Russia will chose fanatic communist PKK or his long time stable friends in Iran and Assad.
PS: Quit reading Today's Zaman. They are linked to an ultra islamic group that Erdogan wages war against, lol. (sounded funny as I write it but yes )
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On February 24 2016 03:17 Redox wrote:Show nested quote +On February 24 2016 02:57 xM(Z wrote:http://www.todayszaman.com/national_dna-matching-proves-govt-falsely-identified-ankara-suicide-bomber_413026.html As 14 of the 21 suspects detained as part of the investigation into last week's deadly car-bomb attack in Ankara were arrested on Monday, a Turkish news portal has said the DNA analysis reveals that the government has falsely announced the suicide bomber.
The attacker is not Salih Neccar as was claimed by the government but rather Abdulbaki Sömer, as was announced by the Kurdistan Freedom Falcons (TAK), the Cumhuriyet daily's news portal said on Monday.
It became clear that the attacker was Abdulbaki after the DNA sample taken from Sömer's father, Musa Sömer, matched with the DNA sample of the attacker, the news portal said.
Turkish Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoğlu said, less than 24 hours after the attack, that Neccar, a Syrian national who he said is a member of the Syrian wing of the Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK), had conducted the attack with the PKK's collaboration.
TAK, which is linked to the PKK, claimed responsibility for the attack a day after Davutoğlu's statement, saying the perpetrator is Abdülbaki, a 26-year-old Turkish national born in the eastern city of Van. i would expect a play against Erdogan in some future with him ending up dead or on trial in some EU court for colluding with ISIS. I dont get your post. What does the news article about a PKK bombing have to do with ISIS or with Erdogan collaborating with them?
it's context, geopolitics. Erdogan is a loose end for the US - Russia deal(he will never agree with any kurdish solution/kurdish corridor across Turkey's S border); hell, for any deal on Syria actually. Saudis, Quatar, Jordan can be bought/turned over but Erdogan can't and since he put all his eggs into a scenario in which he and the saudis control a post war Syria, he will need to be dealt with.
that bombing, was Erdogan play to validate its attacks on syrians(YPG mostly) in Aleppo; that was him committing political suicide.
@lastpuritan, if you don't like that magazine then google the Interior Minister Efkan Ala interview on the NTV, the The Ankara Chief Public Prosecutor's Office statements, read on the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cumhuriyet from which the story originated and so on.
this is all a game for those fuckers, just follow the news.
from the sarin gas attack in Syria which, based on russian intelligence received by the White House, turned out to be a Turkey &co plot to get Obama to cross his red line and directly attack Assad, to the EU - Israel econ-dances, the US - Israel relations getting colder, Turkey direct support for ISIS, US - Iran nuclear deal, US kurdish support, EU - US spy shenanigans/accusations, the timing of VW takedown and i'm sure i missed a couple.
those are public discourses. it's how they talk, it's how they conduct their business.
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Sarin gas thing was brought up by RT News when Russia went full hostile against Turkey thanks to a corrupt ass-licker MP of central opposition CHP. https://www.rt.com/news/325825-sarin-gas-syria-turkey/ See how fool and anti-west turkish opposition is:
"All basic materials are purchased from Europe. Western institutions should question themselves about these relations. Western sources know very well who carried out the sarin gas attack in Syria. They know these people, they know who these people are working with, they know that these people are working for Al-Qaeda. I think is Westerns are hypocrats about the situation"
And he changed his statement afterwards saying he did not mention Turkey was the perpetrator, he blamed EU but said sarin went VIA Turkey, it was a shame for such great country becomes a bridge for imperialistic plansblablalba.
RT news, they Google'd anything on the internet and filled Russian people with all those bullshit. They even used the pictures of Erdogan's son in a famous restaurant posing with restaurant owners as he was having a meeting with ISIS leaders. Just don't follow the news, they want you to follow those news. Trust me, you will seem more wise. You could learn many things about Sarin if you searched for it, and at least differ from RT news who claimed rebels manufactured it in a house-room located in Turkey with gov support, LMAOO.
one verified example of non-state production of sarin was the Aum Shinrikyo cult in Japan. Their many millions of dollars, very large purpose-built manufacturing facility and highly qualified staff got them the ability to make single batches of perhaps 8 litres of short shelf life Sarin. The alleged Aleppo plant wouldn't need to be the size of the Rocky Mountain Arsenal in the US, but it would have needed to be closer to that than the size of a house.
Taken cumulatively, all these points add up to a very high degree of improbability. Isn't it more probable that the Sarin came from the people who confessed to having a Sarin factory, fired from areas controlled by the government 2km away from the impact sites, in munitions the government had been using since 2012?
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/apr/22/allegation-false-turkey-chemical-attack-syria
I don't think The Guardian fancies Turkey that much to back them up for a huge crime like this.
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