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Henry Ford Hemp Car (Dec. 1941 Popular Mechanics)

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ryanAnger
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States838 Posts
March 15 2011 22:20 GMT
#1
This is amazing and enraging at the same time, for reasons i'm willing to explain, if asked.

The following is a video of the Hemp Car prototype made by Henry Ford in 1941. In the video, Ford is seen striking the trunk of the car WITH AN AXE, and leaving no dents whatsoever. The "Hemplastic" seen is about 60% of the weight of steel, and ten (10) times more durable.



The December 1941 Issue of Popular Mechanics had an article on this car and hemp in general:

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Over in England it's saccharine for sugar; on the continent it's charcoal "gasogenes" in the rumble seat instead of gasoline in the tank. Here in America there's plenty of sugar, plenty of gasoline. Yet there's an industrial revolution in progress just the same, a revolution in materials that will affect every home.

Auto Body Made of Plastics Resists Denting Under Hard Blows

After twelve years of research, the Ford Motor Company has completed an experimental automobile with a plastic body. Although its design takes advantage of the properties of plastics, the streamline car does not differ greatly in appearance from its steel counterpart. The only steel in the hand-made body is found in the tubular welded frame on which are mounted 14 plastic panels, 3/16 inch thick. Composed of a mixture of farm crops and synthetic chemicals, the plastic is reported to withstand a blow 10 times as great as steel without denting. Even the windows and windshield are of plastic. The total weight of the plastic car is about 2,000 pounds, compared with 3,000 pounds for a steel automobile of the same size. Although no hint has been given as to when plastic cars may go into production, the experimental model is pictured as a step toward materialization of Henry Ford's belief that some day he would "grow automobiles from the soil."

When Henry Ford recently unveiled his plastic car, result of 12 years of research, he gave the world a glimpse of the automobile of tomorrow, its tough panels molded under hydraulic pressure of 1,500 pounds per square inch (psi) from a recipe that calls for 70 percent of cellulose fibers from wheat straw, hemp and sisal plus 30 percent resin binder. The only steel in the car is its tubular welded frame. The plastic car weighs a ton, 1,000 pounds lighter than a comparable steel car. Manufactures are already talking of a low-priced plastic car to test the public's taste by 1943.
American farmers are promised a new cash crop with an annual value of several hundred million dollars, all because a machine has been invented that solves a problem more than 6,000 years old.

It is hemp, a crop that will not compete with other American products. Instead, it will displace imports of raw material and manufactured products produced by underpaid coolie and peasant labor and it will provide thousands of jobs for American workers throughout the land.

The machine that makes this possible is designed for removing the fiber-bearing cortex from the rest of the stalk, making hemp fiber available for use without prohibitive amounts of human labor.

Hemp is the standard fiber of the world. It has great tensile strength and durability. It is used to produce more than 5,000 textile products, ranging from rope to fine laces, and the woody "hurds" remaining after the fiber has been removed contain more than 77 percent cellulose, which can be used to produce more than 25,000 products, ranging from dynamite to Cellophane.

Machines now in service in Texas, Illinois, Minnesota, and other states are producing fiber at a manufacturing cost of half a cent per pound, and are finding a profitable market for the rest of the stalk. Machine operators are making a good profit in competition with coolie-produced foreign fiber, while paying farmers $15 a ton for hemp as it comes from the field.

From the farmer's point of view, hemp is an easy crop to grow and will yield from three to six tons per acre on any land that will grow corn, wheat, or oats. It can be grown in any state of the Union. It has a short growing season, so that it can be planted after other crops are in. The long roots penetrate and break the soil to leave it in perfect condition for next year's crop. The dense shock of leaves, eight to twelve feet above the ground, chokes out weeds. Two successive crops are enough to reclaim land that has been abandoned because of Canadian thistles or quack grass.

Under old methods, hemp was cut and allowed to lie in the fields for weeks until it "retted" enough so that the fibers could be pulled off by hand. Retting is simply rotting as a result of dew, rain, and bacterial action. Machines were developed to separate the fibers mechanically after retting was complete, but the cost was high, the loss of fiber great, and the quality of fiber comparatively low.

With the new machine -- known as a decorticator -- hemp is cut with a slightly modified grain binder. It is delivered to the machine where an automatic chain conveyor feeds it to the breaking arms at a rate of two or three tons per hour. The hurds are broken into fine pieces that drop into the hopper, from where they are delivered by blower to a baler, or to a truck or freight car for loose shipment. The fiber comes from the other end of the machine, ready for baling.

From this point on, almost anything can happen. The raw fiber can be used to produce strong twine or rope, woven into burlap, used for carpet warp or linoleum backing, or it may be bleached and refined, with resinous by-products of high commercial value. It can, in fact, be used to replace foreign fibers which now flood our markets.

Thousands of tons of hemp hurds are used every year by one large powder company for the manufacture of dynamite and TNT. A large paper company, which has been paying more than a million dollars a year in duties on foreign-made cigarette papers, now is manufacturing these papers from American hemp grown in Minnesota. A new factory in Illinois is producing bond paper from hemp. The natural materials in hemp make is an economical source of pulp for any grade of paper manufactured, and the high percentage of alpha cellulose promises an unlimited supply of raw material for the thousands of cellulose products our chemists have developed.

It is generally believed that all linen is produced from flax. Actually, the majority comes from hemp -- authorities estimate that more than half of our imported linen fabrics are manufactured from hemp fiber. Another misconception is that burlap is made from hemp. Actually, its source is usually jute, and practically all of the burlap we use is woven from laborers in India who receive only four cents a day. Binder twine is usually made from sisal, which comes from the Yucatan and East Africa.

All of these products, now imported, can be produced from home-grown hemp. Fish nets, bow strings, canvas, strong rope, overalls, damask tablecloths, fine linen garments, towels, bed linen, and thousands of other everyday items can be grown on American farms. Our imports of foriegn fabrics and fibers average about $200 million per year; in raw fibers alone we imported over $50 million in the first six months of 1937. All of this income can be made available for Americans.

The paper industry offers even greater possibilities. As an industry it amounts to over $1 billion a year, and of that, 80 percent is imported. But hemp will produce every grade of paper and government figures estimate that 10,000 acres devoted to hemp will produce as much paper as 40,000 acres of average pulp land.

One obstacle in the onward march of hemp is the reluctance of farmers to try new crops. The problem is complicated by the need for proper equipment a reasonable distance from the farm. The machine cannot be operated profitably unless there is enough acreage within driving range and farmers cannot find a profitable market unless there is machinery to handle the crop.

Another obstacle is that the blossom of the female hemp plant contains marijuana, a narcotic, and it is impossible to grow hemp without producing the blossom. Federal regulations now being drawn up require registration of hemp growers, and tentative proposals for preventing narcotic production are rather stringent.

However, the connection of hemp as a crop and marijuana seems to be exaggerated. The drug is usually produced from wild hemp or locoweed, which can be found on vacant lots and along railroad tracks in every state. If federal regulations can be drawn to protect the public without preventing the legitimate culture of hemp, this vast new crop can add immeasurably to American agriculture and industry.



Even more evidence that Hemp is the plant that will save society from self destruction.
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Utinni
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1196 Posts
March 15 2011 22:24 GMT
#2
god bless.

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Sealteam
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Australia296 Posts
March 15 2011 22:34 GMT
#3
Really interesting article. I've heard theories (I'm no expert on the subject and I don't buy in to conspiracy theories without evidence, so I took it with a grain of salt but it seems unsurprising enough) that major industries (steel, ect) around the 1940's blocked the legitimization of hemp as a crop to maintain their profits? And we live with their legacy in both the strength public perceptions of marijuana, shaped by wealthy companies to create opposition to the hemp crop, and the legislation thereof?

Anyone know more?
ryanAnger
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States838 Posts
March 15 2011 22:56 GMT
#4
There isn't enough evidence to conclusively say that the major industries actually did block the legislation, but it takes only a hint of common sense to know that if commercial use of hemp were allowed in the US, it would significantly hurt the profits of the petroleum, tobacco, steel, and alcohol industries, as hemp serves as a cheaper, more efficient replacement for all of those.

Unfortunately, until we see legalization of marijuana in the US at a Federal level, we won't see the full extent of how hemp could help our economy. The DEA's stance on Industrial Hemp is that even though it only contains trace amounts of THC (supposedly not enough to get anyone high) it is outlawed.
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rwrzr
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1980 Posts
March 15 2011 23:00 GMT
#5
On March 16 2011 07:56 ryanAnger wrote:
There isn't enough evidence to conclusively say that the major industries actually did block the legislation, but it takes only a hint of common sense to know that if commercial use of hemp were allowed in the US, it would significantly hurt the profits of the petroleum, tobacco, steel, and alcohol industries, as hemp serves as a cheaper, more efficient replacement for all of those.

Unfortunately, until we see legalization of marijuana in the US at a Federal level, we won't see the full extent of how hemp could help our economy. The DEA's stance on Industrial Hemp is that even though it only contains trace amounts of THC (supposedly not enough to get anyone high) it is outlawed.


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deadmau
Profile Joined September 2010
960 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-15 23:19:00
March 15 2011 23:09 GMT
#6
I professor of mine told me about the real reasons why Marijuana is outlawed in the U.S. whereas alcohol a far more dangerous drug is legal. At the time I was 20, still young, still ignorant, still believed the propaganda about Weed being a dangerous drug as schools, TV, and government associations led me to believe. It was not till this article did it really cause me to think maybe he wasn't bullshitting after all.

It baffles me how Marijuana/"locoweed" is still banned when alcohol and cigarettes kills so many people. They do great physical harm to people's health. I've read so much about this dangerous drug weed, but I still fail to see why our government and half the population buys into the propaganda. I was tricked since I was a child though, but I always like to learn and strive for higher education, I was bound to find the truth sooner or later. Since not everyone in the U.S. is like me and likes to learn, I guess they will stay uninformed. It sad how people hundreds of millions are led to believe lies, all because of greedy corporations.

I don't think weed should be available to all, I strongly feel it should be as legal as alcohol/cigarettes, but with age restrictions (common sense -_- not for kids), but it's silly that such dangerous things as alcohol/cigs are allowed where as harmless crap like weed is not allowed.

I'm very into health and fitness, and I hate the idea of partaking in anything that endangers that. As I've gone to school and gotten my degree, I'm fairly skilled in doing research and finding out the facts, and from my research, weed does jack shit to your health compared to cigarettes and alcohol which the former kills your lungs & gives you cancer, and the latter kills your liver and kills your braincells. No people shouldn't be getting high all the time just because it doesn't have long term health negative effects, cause TOO MUCH of anything is bad. Be smart people lulz. How can stuff that harm your health like alcohol/cigs be allowed I just Don't get it, they are just so unhealthy. I'm not knocking on people that drink, cause I like to drink when I go out with my friends and when we go to vegas/clubs and waht not, but why that be allowed and weed not just wow -_-. I drink on occasion, I blaze on occasion. Everything in moderation, all good.

Maybe someone smarter than me can explain the topic further, and please not someone as ignorant as I was growing up.
Terrakin
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1440 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-16 00:07:50
March 15 2011 23:42 GMT
#7
One of the reasons cannabis is illegal is because of William Randolph Hearst and his insatiable quest for ratings. They would publish stories about how cannabis would drive people insane and make you do other drugs like cocaine and heroin.

Even now schools and police are teaching that cannabis is a gateway drug and that if you use cannabis you will use every other drug until you overdose or die.

The reason hemp is illegal is because it has TOO many uses, which is very sad. "The United States Census of 1850 counted 8,327 hemp “plantations”* (minimum 2,000-acre farms) growing cannabis hemp for cloth, canvas and even the cordage used for baling cotton."

There's not much I can say about hemp that hasn't been said in "The Emperor Wears No Clothes" a book written by a man named Jack Herer, http://www.jackherer.com/thebook/chapter-one/. Also some back story on Jack Herer was that he was just your average American, grew up middle class, fought in a few wars, hated hippies and especially hated the protesters of the Vietnam war, he believed them to be cowards. In his 30's he and his wife split up and his new girlfriend introduced him to cannabis, since then he used all his life to spread the message that cannabis/hemp should be embraced.


Also here's a short film from the USDA (department of agriculture)

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CyberPitz
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States428 Posts
March 15 2011 23:53 GMT
#8
On March 16 2011 08:09 deadmau wrote:


I don't think weed should be available to all, I strongly feel it should be as legal as alcohol/cigarettes, but with age restrictions (common sense -_- not for kids), but it's silly that such dangerous things as alcohol/cigs are allowed where as harmless crap like weed is not allowed.

Why do people keep saying weed is harmless? It's just like cigarettes. You burn a plant, you get tar.

On topic: I'm curious how this would hold up to the standards of today when we look at crash tests. It being ten times more durable doesn't mean it can save people ten times better in a car accident at 45 mph.
HellRoxYa
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden1614 Posts
March 15 2011 23:56 GMT
#9
On March 16 2011 08:09 deadmau wrote:

I don't think weed should be available to all, I strongly feel it should be as legal as alcohol/cigarettes, but with age restrictions (common sense -_- not for kids), but it's silly that such dangerous things as alcohol/cigs are allowed where as harmless crap like weed is not allowed.


Short answer: They wouldn't be legal if they weren't already.

And trying to argue that other things which are legal are "more dangerous" isn't that good of an argument for leaglizing something that is harmful. In fact it's an argument for outlawing tobacco and alcohol.

And as far as it being harmful goes; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long-term_effects_of_cannabis#Memory_and_intelligence . This is besides all the other inconclusive effects.
ryanAnger
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States838 Posts
March 16 2011 00:03 GMT
#10
On March 16 2011 08:53 CyberPitz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2011 08:09 deadmau wrote:


I don't think weed should be available to all, I strongly feel it should be as legal as alcohol/cigarettes, but with age restrictions (common sense -_- not for kids), but it's silly that such dangerous things as alcohol/cigs are allowed where as harmless crap like weed is not allowed.

Why do people keep saying weed is harmless? It's just like cigarettes. You burn a plant, you get tar.

On topic: I'm curious how this would hold up to the standards of today when we look at crash tests. It being ten times more durable doesn't mean it can save people ten times better in a car accident at 45 mph.


If you eat it, or vaporize it, marijuana IS completely harmless.
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TLOBrian
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States453 Posts
March 16 2011 00:08 GMT
#11
On March 16 2011 08:53 CyberPitz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2011 08:09 deadmau wrote:


I don't think weed should be available to all, I strongly feel it should be as legal as alcohol/cigarettes, but with age restrictions (common sense -_- not for kids), but it's silly that such dangerous things as alcohol/cigs are allowed where as harmless crap like weed is not allowed.

Why do people keep saying weed is harmless? It's just like cigarettes. You burn a plant, you get tar.

On topic: I'm curious how this would hold up to the standards of today when we look at crash tests. It being ten times more durable doesn't mean it can save people ten times better in a car accident at 45 mph.


Unlike cigs, marijuana is an expectorant, you're most likely going to not retain as much in your system as tobacco, which constricts the vessels in the lungs, keeping the tar in. Not to mention the phosphates which contain radioactive substances that stay in the lungs. This is the real danger. The substances remain for decades, able to do considerable damage.

Also, since it is an expectorant, if you have smoke cigs in the past, its better for you to smoke marijuana lightly and regularly. (1/2 gram to 1 gram a day.) Also, as the potency of marijuana increases, the negative effects decrease, since you have to smoke less to achieve euphoria, pain relief etc.

Oh, and they make things called vaporizers. Then, it truly is completely and utterly 100% harmless. (Instead of 99.9% harmless)
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deadmau
Profile Joined September 2010
960 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-16 00:13:02
March 16 2011 00:08 GMT
#12
On March 16 2011 09:03 ryanAnger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2011 08:53 CyberPitz wrote:
On March 16 2011 08:09 deadmau wrote:


I don't think weed should be available to all, I strongly feel it should be as legal as alcohol/cigarettes, but with age restrictions (common sense -_- not for kids), but it's silly that such dangerous things as alcohol/cigs are allowed where as harmless crap like weed is not allowed.

Why do people keep saying weed is harmless? It's just like cigarettes. You burn a plant, you get tar.

On topic: I'm curious how this would hold up to the standards of today when we look at crash tests. It being ten times more durable doesn't mean it can save people ten times better in a car accident at 45 mph.


If you eat it, or vaporize it, marijuana IS completely harmless.



Wow CyberPitz, i'm sure my post included that I wanted to hear from non-ignorant fools that knew how to do research and fact finding. Thanks for completely invalidating your entire argument with "It's just like cigarettes." I hate to be rude, but you're a moron. Do some proper research. They are definitely not the same, one gives you lung cancer the other does not, with the proper methods as ryanAnger said.

Thanks ryanAnger for stating the facts for me.

Really tired of ignorant idiots that state things they know nothing about. Another fool that has believed the lies spewed threw media/etc

Again I'm not rallying for pro-weed laws or anythign like that, I'm just stating how bullcrap it is to be lied to all these years for the sake of greed. Yes I was once ignorant like you Cyber, maybe one day you'll wake up.

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deadmau
Profile Joined September 2010
960 Posts
March 16 2011 00:11 GMT
#13
On March 16 2011 09:08 TLOBrian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2011 08:53 CyberPitz wrote:
On March 16 2011 08:09 deadmau wrote:


I don't think weed should be available to all, I strongly feel it should be as legal as alcohol/cigarettes, but with age restrictions (common sense -_- not for kids), but it's silly that such dangerous things as alcohol/cigs are allowed where as harmless crap like weed is not allowed.

Why do people keep saying weed is harmless? It's just like cigarettes. You burn a plant, you get tar.

On topic: I'm curious how this would hold up to the standards of today when we look at crash tests. It being ten times more durable doesn't mean it can save people ten times better in a car accident at 45 mph.


Unlike cigs, marijuana is an expectorant, you're most likely going to not retain as much in your system as tobacco, which constricts the vessels in the lungs, keeping the tar in. Not to mention the phosphates which contain radioactive substances that stay in the lungs. This is the real danger. The substances remain for decades, able to do considerable damage.

Also, since it is an expectorant, if you have smoke cigs in the past, its better for you to smoke marijuana lightly and regularly. (1/2 gram to 1 gram a day.) Also, as the potency of marijuana increases, the negative effects decrease, since you have to smoke less to achieve euphoria, pain relief etc.

Oh, and they make things called vaporizers. Then, it truly is completely and utterly 100% harmless. (Instead of 99.9% harmless)



Lol, I guess I have no patience like you guys for such people, to be able to respond with such calm and resolve. I will try to follow suit.

lol@ 100% harmless from 99.9%, dunno how exact that is but the point is clear.
NIJ
Profile Joined March 2010
1012 Posts
March 16 2011 00:23 GMT
#14
Marijuana itself might not be harmless, but marijuana out there in the real world, are probably mostly pesticide and chemcial covered cause druglord don't give a shit and is not good for you. More reasons for govt to regulate and tax the sales imo.
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ryanAnger
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States838 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-16 00:30:02
March 16 2011 00:27 GMT
#15
The point of me bringing this up in the first place guys, was not necessarily to talk about whether marijuana should or should not be legal (although I think it should be, and will be in the future), because I can live without it.

The real problem is the fact that the corporations running the United States are preventing us from using a crop that could essentially save our economy, and environment for that matter.

Also, CyberPitz, in response to you saying it being 10 times more durable won't prevent 10 times as much damage at 45mph: Perhaps not, but it will certainly prove to be much safer than the vehicles we are currently driving, not only because of the durability, but also because of the smaller weight. Less weight means less force at equal speeds, which also means less damage.
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Masq
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1792 Posts
March 16 2011 00:29 GMT
#16
On March 16 2011 08:09 deadmau wrote:
I'm fairly skilled in doing research and finding out the facts, and from my research, weed does jack shit to your health compared to cigarettes and alcohol which the former kills your lungs & gives you cancer, and the latter kills your liver and kills your braincells.



alcohol doesn't kill brain cells
jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
March 16 2011 00:30 GMT
#17
it saddens me that hemp/marijuana's image is tainted beyond recognition.

if we as humans cared less about one's image, greed, and superstition, we would be so much further ahead. sexbots, i await for you patiently.
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Terrakin
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1440 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-16 00:37:57
March 16 2011 00:32 GMT
#18
On March 16 2011 09:23 NIJ wrote:
Marijuana itself might not be harmless, but marijuana out there in the real world, are probably mostly pesticide and chemcial covered cause druglord don't give a shit and is not good for you. More reasons for govt to regulate and tax the sales imo.

Just to let you know in the "real world" most cannabis is grown indoors, "drug lords" don't even bring cannabis over the border anymore they have started growing in our national parks since border patrol is very strict.

also to the poster below, not harder than steel but 10x more impact resistant, also not just hemp, but the plastic made from hemp.
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Catch]22
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden2683 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-16 00:35:22
March 16 2011 00:34 GMT
#19
Harder than steel? If that doesn't trigger your hoax targeting spider-sense, then I guess you'll believe just about anything.
ryanAnger
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States838 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-16 00:41:27
March 16 2011 00:40 GMT
#20
On March 16 2011 09:34 Catch]22 wrote:
Harder than steel? If that doesn't trigger your hoax targeting spider-sense, then I guess you'll believe just about anything.


You can't be serious? Do you believe being "harder than steel" is an impossibility? Do you know why materials are "hard" in the first place?

Also, this isn't a hoax. It is well documented and widely accepted history that Henry Ford actually made this car.
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Aruno
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
New Zealand748 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-16 00:48:02
March 16 2011 00:47 GMT
#21
On March 16 2011 09:34 Catch]22 wrote:
Harder than steel? If that doesn't trigger your hoax targeting spider-sense, then I guess you'll believe just about anything.

It annoys me when people take one thing from a article, discount it. Then discount the whole article because of it.

Wish people would not take such an immediate "it's all bullshit" approach to peoples work.
Leave your mind open to think about it, sure don't take it as truth, but at least allow the discussion to be continued in your mind.

It's plain laziness to shut out ideas without letting them being fully delved.

In short:
Keep an open mind that neither accepts immediate truth, nor accepts immediate falsehood, but maintains vigilance and observance so that ideas and concepts may be fully explored.
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BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10421 Posts
March 16 2011 00:48 GMT
#22
It can withstand 10 times the impact of steel without denting? Why is that good? They design cars to crumple to help slow down the energy during a crash. You wouldn't want a car that doesn't crumple.
SirKibbleX
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States479 Posts
March 16 2011 00:59 GMT
#23
You guys seriously don't believe that, with all the money there is to be made if this is true, no one has done it yet? A substance harder than steel that costs next to nothing and can be essentially grown from the ground?

Not one car company, chemical company, or venture capitalist with a lot of disposable income has invested in this? I'm going to go ahead and say you're all just wrong.
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terrOne
Profile Joined September 2009
Italy172 Posts
March 16 2011 01:07 GMT
#24
^ how can you make a monopoly out of a plant that grows everywhere?

You don't, that's why who has petrol wants people to use only petrol.

I'm going to go ahead and say you're just wrong.

HeLL yeah!
ryanAnger
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States838 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-16 01:40:48
March 16 2011 01:23 GMT
#25
On March 16 2011 09:59 SirKibbleX wrote:
You guys seriously don't believe that, with all the money there is to be made if this is true, no one has done it yet? A substance harder than steel that costs next to nothing and can be essentially grown from the ground?

Not one car company, chemical company, or venture capitalist with a lot of disposable income has invested in this? I'm going to go ahead and say you're all just wrong.


I don't really think you understand how politics work. Also, if you read the description in the video, the uploader stated that Ford sent him a brochure displaying the eco-friendly features of some of their new cars which include Hemp parts (doors, dashboards). While thats all good and dandy, the problem is that all of these parts have to be imported from outside the United States.

EDIT: Upon further inspection, I can't seem to find any information on Ford using Hemp recently, unfortunately, but that's not to say this isn't the case. In the event Ford were using Hemp, they probably wouldn't want the general public to know that a "homebrewed" car company is importing from other nations.
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NIJ
Profile Joined March 2010
1012 Posts
March 16 2011 01:26 GMT
#26
On March 16 2011 09:32 Terrakin wrote:
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On March 16 2011 09:23 NIJ wrote:
Marijuana itself might not be harmless, but marijuana out there in the real world, are probably mostly pesticide and chemcial covered cause druglord don't give a shit and is not good for you. More reasons for govt to regulate and tax the sales imo.

Just to let you know in the "real world" most cannabis is grown indoors, "drug lords" don't even bring cannabis over the border anymore they have started growing in our national parks since border patrol is very strict.

also to the poster below, not harder than steel but 10x more impact resistant, also not just hemp, but the plastic made from hemp.

you're right. I remember reading about that. but saying that they dont try to cross the border anymore is an overstatement as well. border inspections are random and its still profitable for them to smuggle despite some cargos being written off as 'business expense'.
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NrG.Bamboo
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2756 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-16 17:40:48
March 16 2011 01:30 GMT
#27
On March 16 2011 09:23 NIJ wrote:
Marijuana itself might not be harmless, but marijuana out there in the real world, are probably mostly pesticide and chemcial covered cause druglord don't give a shit and is not good for you. More reasons for govt to regulate and tax the sales imo.

My closet disagrees with your "real world" growing conditions.

And the truth is that nobody wants shitty Mexican druglord weed when they could get much higher quality within their own community :p
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Nizaris
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium2230 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-16 01:42:25
March 16 2011 01:39 GMT
#28
On March 16 2011 09:59 SirKibbleX wrote:
You guys seriously don't believe that, with all the money there is to be made if this is true, no one has done it yet? A substance harder than steel that costs next to nothing and can be essentially grown from the ground?

Not one car company, chemical company, or venture capitalist with a lot of disposable income has invested in this? I'm going to go ahead and say you're all just wrong.

There are plenty of uses for hemp. From paper to food to fuel to apparently steel/plastic or w/e that car is made of. But lobbies are powerful. Unlimited funds to prevent these kind of product being available works. Ppl keep saying the same about oil, alternatives exist but oil lobbies prevent them.

If u want to know more about Hemp i'd suggest listening to Jack Herer. Sure the guy pushes the conspiracy theories a bit far, but still has good ideas.
LegendaryZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1583 Posts
March 16 2011 04:26 GMT
#29
On March 16 2011 10:23 ryanAnger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2011 09:59 SirKibbleX wrote:
You guys seriously don't believe that, with all the money there is to be made if this is true, no one has done it yet? A substance harder than steel that costs next to nothing and can be essentially grown from the ground?

Not one car company, chemical company, or venture capitalist with a lot of disposable income has invested in this? I'm going to go ahead and say you're all just wrong.


I don't really think you understand how politics work. Also, if you read the description in the video, the uploader stated that Ford sent him a brochure displaying the eco-friendly features of some of their new cars which include Hemp parts (doors, dashboards). While thats all good and dandy, the problem is that all of these parts have to be imported from outside the United States.

EDIT: Upon further inspection, I can't seem to find any information on Ford using Hemp recently, unfortunately, but that's not to say this isn't the case. In the event Ford were using Hemp, they probably wouldn't want the general public to know that a "homebrewed" car company is importing from other nations.


Ford imports plenty of parts. I don't think it's some big secret either.
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