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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
August 21 2011 23:03 GMT
#2341
Still no pictures!
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
August 21 2011 23:05 GMT
#2342
Sky News is reporting from Green Square!

Link
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Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
August 21 2011 23:18 GMT
#2343
Whether Muammar Gaddafi is captured, killed or escapes, I cannot fathom that his Libya is still alive. The capitol has fallen. The country has fallen. Government forces are fleeing. There can be no stand when every government force runs.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-21 23:23:22
August 21 2011 23:21 GMT
#2344
Qatar's backing of the Rebels has paid off it seems, Russia on the other hand might run into some trouble along the Diplomatic front.

Now eyes will be on Syria, and especially Algeria which already had domestic troubles and is now surrounded by countries that have been changed by revolutions and the Arab Spring. It is the only military dictatorship left in North Africa now and they backed Gaddafi.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
August 21 2011 23:21 GMT
#2345
Congratulations to the Libyans. Now the hard part begins.
DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
August 21 2011 23:23 GMT
#2346
So how come after weeks of silence from the media.. all of a sudden in 1 day they've managed to take the capital and Gaddafi might be killed? What the fuck happened? NATO armed the rebel forces with swat teams and started to bomb everything or w hat?
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
August 21 2011 23:24 GMT
#2347
On August 22 2011 08:23 DwD wrote:
So how come after weeks of silence from the media.. all of a sudden in 1 day they've managed to take the capital and Gaddafi might be killed? What the fuck happened? NATO armed the rebel forces with swat teams and started to bomb everything or w hat?


The NATO bombings certainly helped but also supplies via other countries helped, as well as the training of the Rebels.
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KasdaTheEmperor
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Croatia239 Posts
August 21 2011 23:25 GMT
#2348
On August 22 2011 08:23 DwD wrote:
So how come after weeks of silence from the media.. all of a sudden in 1 day they've managed to take the capital and Gaddafi might be killed? What the fuck happened? NATO armed the rebel forces with swat teams and started to bomb everything or w hat?


No, it was a stale mate for a long time, then rebels managed to take Brega and from there everything went downhill for gaddafi
''Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in raising up everytime we fall''
`dunedain
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
653 Posts
August 21 2011 23:29 GMT
#2349
I just want to include an excerpt from the Great Martin Luther King Jr.'s Speech entitled, "I Have a Dream"

...
And when this happens, when we allow freedom ring, when we let it ring from every village and every hamlet, from every state and every city, we will be able to speed up that day when all of God's children, black men and white men, Jews and Gentiles, Protestants and Catholics, will be able to join hands and sing in the words of the old Negro spiritual:

Free at last! Free at last!

Thank God Almighty, we are free at last!


Good luck to Libya! The world is with you.
"In order to be created, a work of art must first make use of the dark forces of the soul." ~Albert Camus
p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-21 23:31:28
August 21 2011 23:30 GMT
#2350
On August 22 2011 08:23 DwD wrote:
So how come after weeks of silence from the media.. all of a sudden in 1 day they've managed to take the capital and Gaddafi might be killed? What the fuck happened? NATO armed the rebel forces with swat teams and started to bomb everything or w hat?

The rebels took Al Zawiya and were pushing forward on all fronts not too long ago. I don't know how much media attention that got in popular TV channels, but many forms of online media were reporting on it. Once they took Zawiya it seemed like everyone knew it was only a matter of time, though I'm not sure how many expected it to happen so quickly.
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Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
August 21 2011 23:30 GMT
#2351
As a reporter (I don't know which) put it, there was no confidence in the rebel forces until the last few days when the rebels began to not only take ground, but hold it. Once that happened Tripoli and elsewhere rose up in rebellion to greet the rebels.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
August 21 2011 23:56 GMT
#2352
Surprised we haven't heard from the big three in terms of statements: Obama, Cameron, Sarkozy. Especially the latter two.
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Fattah
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Egypt128 Posts
August 22 2011 00:01 GMT
#2353
GZ to the Rebels.

But Libya will be like Iraq and Afghanistan. Thousands of armed people each with different ideologies. I don't think they will go "Whelp, the shit is over. Let's give these weapons back".
Offhand
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1869 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-22 00:02:04
August 22 2011 00:01 GMT
#2354
On August 22 2011 08:56 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Surprised we haven't heard from the big three in terms of statements: Obama, Cameron, Sarkozy. Especially the latter two.


Because most safe bets are on Gaddafi.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
August 22 2011 00:05 GMT
#2355
On August 22 2011 09:01 Offhand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2011 08:56 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Surprised we haven't heard from the big three in terms of statements: Obama, Cameron, Sarkozy. Especially the latter two.


Because most safe bets are on Gaddafi.


I think anyone who is still betting on Gaddafi is living in a fantasy land, granted what comes after and if the NTC can retain control and work to stabilize and rebuild and maintain a government is one thing but to think Gaddafi will somehow make a comeback or even take part is ludicrous.
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thoradycus
Profile Joined August 2010
Malaysia3262 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-22 00:10:39
August 22 2011 00:05 GMT
#2356
I think its great this is being successful, just hope there wont be any unintended consequences
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
August 22 2011 00:07 GMT
#2357
Those in charge are saying that Green Square will be renamed to it's original name Martyr Square.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
August 22 2011 00:22 GMT
#2358
On August 22 2011 09:01 Fattah wrote:
GZ to the Rebels.

But Libya will be like Iraq and Afghanistan. Thousands of armed people each with different ideologies. I don't think they will go "Whelp, the shit is over. Let's give these weapons back".

You really think so? Seems like a stretch to compare a post-Gaddaffi Libya to Afghanistan circa the turn of century. The latter going through a major war against the Soviets, then Civil War, and then War against the US. Afghanistan has seen basically 30 years of unrest and War, compared to 40 years of relative stability (even if it was a Military dictatorship). At least there is some semblance of infrastructure in Libya after this war is over, something to build around. Afghanistan has been the center of fighting for so long people have been left with next to nothing.

I'm not going to pretend to be an expert on Libyan politics but the lack of foreign occupying forces and the seemingly warm reception of the rebels in Tripoli makes any Afghan-style prolonged warfare unlikely.
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-22 00:34:25
August 22 2011 00:30 GMT
#2359
Mohammed Gaddafi is speaking to Arabic Al-Jazeera saying:

"I was assured of our safety from the people who surrounded our house."

[image loading]


Rapid gunfire was heard then the line was cut.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
August 22 2011 00:34 GMT
#2360
On August 22 2011 09:22 p4NDemik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2011 09:01 Fattah wrote:
GZ to the Rebels.

But Libya will be like Iraq and Afghanistan. Thousands of armed people each with different ideologies. I don't think they will go "Whelp, the shit is over. Let's give these weapons back".

I'm not going to pretend to be an expert on Libyan politics but the lack of foreign occupying forces and the seemingly warm reception of the rebels in Tripoli makes any Afghan-style prolonged warfare unlikely.

Furthermore, where are these pro government forces? It seems like now that the power is broken there is no reason to fight for it any more. :\ I can't understand how this is anything like Afghanistan.
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