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Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
January 18 2011 20:18 GMT
#21
Just saw this on CNN. This is pretty crazy stuff I don't understand why people go to violence to solve problems.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
shindigs
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4795 Posts
January 18 2011 20:20 GMT
#22
Looks like the gunman was arrested and the people shot are now being treated.

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2011/01/cnn-3-shot-at-californias-gardena-high-school-/1

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LazyMacro
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
976 Posts
January 18 2011 20:23 GMT
#23
On January 19 2011 05:17 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2011 05:12 LazyMacro wrote:
On January 19 2011 05:09 War Horse wrote:
http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/01/18/police-at-least-3-shot-at-california-high-school/?hpt=T2

According to the school, the gun was in a backpack and discharged when dropped

so not really a school shooting as much as a incredibly stupid accident.

Anyone here who understands how a firearm functions knows that a firearm (a modern one, that is) cannot, by design, discharged by being dropped. Period.

On January 19 2011 05:10 Sufficiency wrote:
US needs tougher gun law. Seriously.

Then again, this is a historical problem which is unlikely to get changed any time soon.

Oh for fuck's sake, get the fuck out. Don't start the fucking obligatory gun control debate. It'll get the thread closed.

On January 19 2011 05:10 DwD wrote:
??? That can't be right. How can the gun shoot 3 people on accident while being dropped? Did he carry a fucking m16 in his backpack...

It can't. That's the problem. The school is blatantly lying to cover something up.


OK I am sorry I brought it up. Regardless, it's mind-baffling why someone would bring a gun to school.

No problem, I just don't want the thread to devolve into a gun control debate (read: people calling each other names, etc.).

To me, it's not that someone would bring a gun to school. Utah has no problems with it and they're just fucking fine. It's when someone has the intent to commit a malicious act. At that point it doesn't matter if it's a gun, a knife, a cup of hot coffee, etc.

Stupid people do stupid shit and innocent people get hurt for no reason.

On January 19 2011 05:17 Gatsbi wrote:
how does a trigger of a gun get pulled by falling? this doesnt make any sense

It doesn't. The gun wasn't discharged from being dropped. Period.

Guns are discharged deliberately or out of negligence.

On January 19 2011 05:17 TallMax wrote:
He dropped it on the ground, then there was a huge California earthquake. It seems like they've lost someone by the end of the story. It says three people in the headline, 3 students in the first paragraph, and two students were shot according to the last one.

At first, I was going to disagree with the US needing tougher gun laws, but yeah, I agree, this actually is the perfect example of needing tougher ones. Of course, he could've just forgotten to take his gun out of his backpack after going on a hunting trip.

Here we go... If this gets locked I'm blaming you. The other guy was pretty civil about it.
Kleinmuuhg
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Vanuatu4091 Posts
January 18 2011 20:23 GMT
#24
Thats so terrible. Like every week or so you hear from another gunman in the US ...
Whats wrong with these kids
This is our town, scrub
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
January 18 2011 20:24 GMT
#25
On January 19 2011 05:23 LazyMacro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2011 05:17 Sufficiency wrote:
On January 19 2011 05:12 LazyMacro wrote:
On January 19 2011 05:09 War Horse wrote:
http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/01/18/police-at-least-3-shot-at-california-high-school/?hpt=T2

According to the school, the gun was in a backpack and discharged when dropped

so not really a school shooting as much as a incredibly stupid accident.

Anyone here who understands how a firearm functions knows that a firearm (a modern one, that is) cannot, by design, discharged by being dropped. Period.

On January 19 2011 05:10 Sufficiency wrote:
US needs tougher gun law. Seriously.

Then again, this is a historical problem which is unlikely to get changed any time soon.

Oh for fuck's sake, get the fuck out. Don't start the fucking obligatory gun control debate. It'll get the thread closed.

On January 19 2011 05:10 DwD wrote:
??? That can't be right. How can the gun shoot 3 people on accident while being dropped? Did he carry a fucking m16 in his backpack...

It can't. That's the problem. The school is blatantly lying to cover something up.


OK I am sorry I brought it up. Regardless, it's mind-baffling why someone would bring a gun to school.

No problem, I just don't want the thread to devolve into a gun control debate (read: people calling each other names, etc.).

To me, it's not that someone would bring a gun to school. Utah has no problems with it and they're just fucking fine. It's when someone has the intent to commit a malicious act. At that point it doesn't matter if it's a gun, a knife, a cup of hot coffee, etc.

Stupid people do stupid shit and innocent people get hurt for no reason.

Show nested quote +
On January 19 2011 05:17 Gatsbi wrote:
how does a trigger of a gun get pulled by falling? this doesnt make any sense

It doesn't. The gun wasn't discharged from being dropped. Period.

Guns are discharged deliberately or out of negligence.

Show nested quote +
On January 19 2011 05:17 TallMax wrote:
He dropped it on the ground, then there was a huge California earthquake. It seems like they've lost someone by the end of the story. It says three people in the headline, 3 students in the first paragraph, and two students were shot according to the last one.

At first, I was going to disagree with the US needing tougher gun laws, but yeah, I agree, this actually is the perfect example of needing tougher ones. Of course, he could've just forgotten to take his gun out of his backpack after going on a hunting trip.

Here we go... If this gets locked I'm blaming you. The other guy was pretty civil about it.


Dude, wtf. What do you expect people to discuss in a thread following a school shooting?

I understand you are a gun nut, but take it easy.
On January 15 2011 05:43 LazyMacro wrote:
One pretty common misconception is that gun control makes sense.

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LazyMacro
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
976 Posts
January 18 2011 20:26 GMT
#26
My point was the thread is about the school shooting, not about gun control, and typically threads like this get derailed after a few pages and turn into a gun control thread and obviously get closed.

Duh.
Haemonculus
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States6980 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-18 20:28:25
January 18 2011 20:28 GMT
#27
At that point it doesn't matter if it's a gun, a knife, a cup of hot coffee, etc.

This argument has never made sense to me.
I admire your commitment to being *very* oily
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-18 20:30:11
January 18 2011 20:28 GMT
#28
+ Show Spoiler +
On January 19 2011 05:23 LazyMacro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2011 05:17 Sufficiency wrote:
On January 19 2011 05:12 LazyMacro wrote:
On January 19 2011 05:09 War Horse wrote:
http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/01/18/police-at-least-3-shot-at-california-high-school/?hpt=T2

According to the school, the gun was in a backpack and discharged when dropped

so not really a school shooting as much as a incredibly stupid accident.

Anyone here who understands how a firearm functions knows that a firearm (a modern one, that is) cannot, by design, discharged by being dropped. Period.

On January 19 2011 05:10 Sufficiency wrote:
US needs tougher gun law. Seriously.

Then again, this is a historical problem which is unlikely to get changed any time soon.

Oh for fuck's sake, get the fuck out. Don't start the fucking obligatory gun control debate. It'll get the thread closed.

On January 19 2011 05:10 DwD wrote:
??? That can't be right. How can the gun shoot 3 people on accident while being dropped? Did he carry a fucking m16 in his backpack...

It can't. That's the problem. The school is blatantly lying to cover something up.


OK I am sorry I brought it up. Regardless, it's mind-baffling why someone would bring a gun to school.

No problem, I just don't want the thread to devolve into a gun control debate (read: people calling each other names, etc.).

To me, it's not that someone would bring a gun to school. Utah has no problems with it and they're just fucking fine. It's when someone has the intent to commit a malicious act. At that point it doesn't matter if it's a gun, a knife, a cup of hot coffee, etc.

Stupid people do stupid shit and innocent people get hurt for no reason.

Show nested quote +
On January 19 2011 05:17 Gatsbi wrote:
how does a trigger of a gun get pulled by falling? this doesnt make any sense

It doesn't. The gun wasn't discharged from being dropped. Period.

Guns are discharged deliberately or out of negligence.

Show nested quote +
On January 19 2011 05:17 TallMax wrote:
He dropped it on the ground, then there was a huge California earthquake. It seems like they've lost someone by the end of the story. It says three people in the headline, 3 students in the first paragraph, and two students were shot according to the last one.

At first, I was going to disagree with the US needing tougher gun laws, but yeah, I agree, this actually is the perfect example of needing tougher ones. Of course, he could've just forgotten to take his gun out of his backpack after going on a hunting trip.

Here we go... If this gets locked I'm blaming you. The other guy was pretty civil about it.


Stupidity and malevolence are two completely different things

+ Show Spoiler +
On January 19 2011 05:29 Cambium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2011 05:26 LazyMacro wrote:
My point was the thread is about the school shooting, not about gun control, and typically threads like this get derailed after a few pages and turn into a gun control thread and obviously get closed.

Duh.



Okay, there was a shooting. It was dumb that the kid brought a gun to school. We are done. If you want us to talk about something specifically, put a little more effort in your OP instead of just "there is another shooting".

It is not a derailment to talk about gun control as it is a possible cause to the current event, and appropriate measures could be taken to prevent future tragedies.



couldn't have said it better myself
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-18 20:29:47
January 18 2011 20:29 GMT
#29
On January 19 2011 05:26 LazyMacro wrote:
My point was the thread is about the school shooting, not about gun control, and typically threads like this get derailed after a few pages and turn into a gun control thread and obviously get closed.

Duh.



Okay, there was a shooting. It was dumb that the kid brought a gun to school. We are done. If you want us to talk about something specifically, put a little more effort in your OP instead of just "there is another shooting".

It is not a derailment to talk about gun control as it is a possible cause to the current event, and appropriate measures could be taken to prevent future tragedies.
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
MidKnight
Profile Joined December 2008
Lithuania884 Posts
January 18 2011 20:31 GMT
#30
How often do school shootings stuff happen in the other parts of the world btw?
There are a lot of fucked up people all over the world, sure, but a random student WILL NOT be able to get a firearm in most other countries, so it usually just remains a fantasy..

I'm sorry, but 2nd amendment is a joke.It's a law enforced 200+ years ago and now people look at it as some sort of "tradition" which "made America oh so great".It's plain and simple brainwashing.
Apply common sense moar..

Other than that, let's hope there will be no casualties out of this thing..
GeneralStan
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States4789 Posts
January 18 2011 20:31 GMT
#31
On January 19 2011 05:15 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:

Show nested quote +
On January 19 2011 05:10 DwD wrote:
??? That can't be right. How can the gun shoot 3 people on accident while being dropped? Did he carry a fucking m16 in his backpack...


M16s fire 556 rounds which aren't designed for penetration.


556 rounds are very small projectiles, which combined with the incredible muzzle velocity of an M16 causes them to penetrate very well for a rifle round
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
THE_DOMINATOR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States309 Posts
January 18 2011 20:34 GMT
#32
On January 19 2011 04:54 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2011 04:45 THE_DOMINATOR wrote:
I like how people make a big deal about it when it happens in a school out of the ghetto.


I like how people contort everything to be racist, sexist, or some other form of bias.

I'm pretty sure it isn't the norm for a student to come to school armed and shoot a few people in the ghetto and that if it happened it would be reported on.

My ass, one of my good friends got shot in a drive by, my dad has been working as a teacher in LA for more than 20 years and has seen countless shootings. A kid even tried to do a drive by on a bicycle for christ's sake. You DON'T hear about inner city crime nearly as much as you do about subrubian crime.
DOMINATION
couches
Profile Joined November 2010
618 Posts
January 18 2011 20:37 GMT
#33
On January 19 2011 05:34 THE_DOMINATOR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2011 04:54 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On January 19 2011 04:45 THE_DOMINATOR wrote:
I like how people make a big deal about it when it happens in a school out of the ghetto.


I like how people contort everything to be racist, sexist, or some other form of bias.

I'm pretty sure it isn't the norm for a student to come to school armed and shoot a few people in the ghetto and that if it happened it would be reported on.

My ass, one of my good friends got shot in a drive by, my dad has been working as a teacher in LA for more than 20 years and has seen countless shootings. A kid even tried to do a drive by on a bicycle for christ's sake. You DON'T hear about inner city crime nearly as much as you do about subrubian crime.

This. Why is it so tough to believe?
Nyx
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Rwanda460 Posts
January 18 2011 20:40 GMT
#34
If it was in his backpack and he had the safety off maybe something (like a pencil) interfered with the trigger and upon being dropped caused the gun to fire?
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
January 18 2011 20:50 GMT
#35
On January 19 2011 05:17 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2011 05:12 LazyMacro wrote:
On January 19 2011 05:09 War Horse wrote:
http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/01/18/police-at-least-3-shot-at-california-high-school/?hpt=T2

According to the school, the gun was in a backpack and discharged when dropped

so not really a school shooting as much as a incredibly stupid accident.

Anyone here who understands how a firearm functions knows that a firearm (a modern one, that is) cannot, by design, discharged by being dropped. Period.

On January 19 2011 05:10 Sufficiency wrote:
US needs tougher gun law. Seriously.

Then again, this is a historical problem which is unlikely to get changed any time soon.

Oh for fuck's sake, get the fuck out. Don't start the fucking obligatory gun control debate. It'll get the thread closed.

On January 19 2011 05:10 DwD wrote:
??? That can't be right. How can the gun shoot 3 people on accident while being dropped? Did he carry a fucking m16 in his backpack...

It can't. That's the problem. The school is blatantly lying to cover something up.


OK I am sorry I brought it up. Regardless, it's mind-baffling why someone would bring a gun to school.


Nothing to be sorry about. This is a thread about gun shooting and gun control laws are obviously related. I also think that gun control laws should be tighter than they are. This has been argued many many times.

Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
January 18 2011 20:51 GMT
#36
of course a gun can discharge upon dropping it, a simple google search would confirm that, you pseudo gun-experts.
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THE_DOMINATOR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States309 Posts
January 18 2011 20:55 GMT
#37
On January 19 2011 05:51 Sfydjklm wrote:
of course a gun can discharge upon dropping it, a simple google search would confirm that, you pseudo gun-experts.

DOMINATION
LazyMacro
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
976 Posts
January 18 2011 20:58 GMT
#38
He shot himself in the leg. It was not an accident...

You don't accidentally put your trigger finger on the trigger, then accidentally pull the trigger.
Sprungjeezy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States1313 Posts
January 18 2011 20:59 GMT
#39
NO responsible person would pack a GUN in a backpack. You unload it and put it in a case or in the open. Accidentally carrying a loaded gun in a backpack is a bad joke/cover up/HORRIBLE excuse.
LazyMacro
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
976 Posts
January 18 2011 21:01 GMT
#40
On January 19 2011 05:59 Sprungjeezy wrote:
NO responsible person would pack a GUN in a backpack. You unload it and put it in a case or in the open. Accidentally carrying a loaded gun in a backpack is a bad joke/cover up/HORRIBLE excuse.

Yeah, I wish the school wouldn't make something up for no apparent reason. What do they have to gain by lying?
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