On May 20 2012 17:25 Greentellon wrote: If private sector can make space technology profitable, it's a VERY good thing. Especially the space mining of asteroids Cameron & Co. wanted to do. It will lead to new advances in space technology, as they try to make things as cheap and effective as possible.
Im really curious and skeptical about the possibility of private sector space industry being profitable...
It requires tourism.
I think tourism alone, while a massive industry, would be overshadowed by industrial exploitation of other planets' resources...though obviously we are far, far away from that really and while having the potential to be massively profitable, there would probably be a ton of backlash or something of that nature...so never mind. Would require a heck of a lot of tourism, and has the potential to get it, though.
I think private sector taking over tasks is a natural evolution. Why should NASA focus on launch vehicles when interplanetary science is where the real ground breaking stuff is happening?
The privet sector will flourish in the realm in space discovery since it will be driven by real capitalism and can be funded by advertisments. There would be nothing wrong selling their shuttle surface space to put some kind of billboard on it and then finally we can go to Mars.
SpaceX engineers have cleared the company's Falcon 9 rocket and Dragon cargo capsule for another try tomorrow to kick off NASA's first commercial flight to the International Space Station.
The engineers replaced a suspect valve in an engine that triggered a last-second launch abort Saturday and carried out a data review to make sure there were no other problems, clearing the way for a second attempt.
With forecasters predicting an 80 percent chance of good weather, the 178-foot-tall Falcon 9 is scheduled for liftoff from launch complex 40 at the Cape Canaveral Air Force Station at 3:44:38 a.m. EDT.
Wired wrote a great article about the specific issue that caused the auto-abort. It goes into a bit more depth than usual for those who are interested:
I was so anxious watching the countdown up until the second stage kicked in (I spent the morning watching rocket explosions from the USSR, China, and India which probably didn't help my fears). Seeing the solar rays deploy and the reaction at Hawthorne from the SpaceX webcast crew was incredible. I am still in awe at the fact that they were able to auto-abort a launch at 0.5 seconds, safe the rocket in a few hours, detect the problem, fix the problem, get re-certified, and launch in under 3 days. Here's to hoping for a successful docking and mission for SpaceX in the coming days.
Have a cousin who works at SpaceX and he described it like "Christmas came early this year, Santa arrived on a rocket and brought a whole lot of success!" Needless to say, he was pretty excited. I think this spells really good things for the company. They are pulling of these amazing feats at such a rapid pace that we may actually see a drastic evolution in spacefaring in our lifetime. This makes me so giddy. It has always been my dream to some day travel to space. Even if it takes a lifetime of saving, some day I'll do it, and these guys are making it more and more accessible.
And I just noticed your post count is 13337 StealthBlue, does that make you super awesome?
FINALLY! I was starting to fear that they were going to be left on the launch pad for 6 months or blow it up. I wonder if the delays helped with the astounding success with the mission, giving engineers unplanned extended deadlines to double/triple check work.
On May 22 2012 18:16 Hoban wrote: Have a cousin who works at SpaceX and he described it like "Christmas came early this year, Santa arrived on a rocket and brought a whole lot of success!" Needless to say, he was pretty excited. I think this spells really good things for the company. They are pulling of these amazing feats at such a rapid pace that we may actually see a drastic evolution in spacefaring in our lifetime. This makes me so giddy. It has always been my dream to some day travel to space. Even if it takes a lifetime of saving, some day I'll do it, and these guys are making it more and more accessible.
And I just noticed your post count is 13337 StealthBlue, does that make you super awesome?
Didn't even notice, damn
Also Charles Bolden speaking on the success of the launch, can't find the Press Conference so if somebody could dig up a YouTube version... *hint* *hint*
The Dragon, now orbiting Earth, is the spacecraft that SpaceX will attempt to dock with the International Space Station later this week, on Friday, pending tests that will determine whether its sensors, controls and other equipment necessary to complete the historic docking procedure are in working order.
If this is completed, SpaceX will be allowed to dock with the station, becoming the first-ever nongovernmental entity to do so and the fifth ever, outside the United States, Russia, Japan and the European Union.
Then, on Saturday, astronauts currently aboard the space station will enter the attached Dragon capsule and transfer some 1,014 pounds of non-critical supplies, including food, water and clothing, from the Dragon to their orbital home. They’ll replace that cargo with another 1,367 pounds of discarded equipment and garbage and when the Dragon decouples from the station after about two weeks, it will take the new cargo back with it on its re-entry to Earth. The Dragon is supposed to plunge into the Pacific Ocean and be retrieved and re-used, becoming the first of a new class of reusable commercial cargo supply vessels made by SpaceX and other companies.
However, as both NASA and SpaceX officials cautioned, the docking is actually the most challenging part of the mission.
“There are still lots of activities that will occur over the next few days that will stretch the SpaceX team and even stretch the NASA team,” said William “Bill” Gerstenmaier, NASA’s associate administrator of human exploration operations, in the press conference held at NASA’s Kennedy Space Center in Florida following SpaceX’s launch on Tuesday.
Bringing Space exploration to the Private Sector....
Just 1 step closer to Firefly being a reality!
In all seriousness though I'm a total nerd about Space and privatization is a fantastic step forward, they can accomplish so much more than Government controlled organisations can on less money and in shorter time frames. If I could walk on another habitable planet and breathe its air before I died, I would be the happiest man alive.
On May 24 2012 10:24 LarJarsE wrote: nasa cant compete. these private COs are getting more funds. I am all for private companys in exploring outer space
That must be sarcasm. But you should try to avoid it as it is not always clear.
NASA had a 16-19 billion dollar a year budget. SpaceX total cost for launching their first rocket into space was 300 million. You do the math. Oh and NASA hasn't launched anything since which date? I'll let you look that up since you are so keen on facts. How much more productive is SpaceX as compared to NASA.