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Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-20 18:35:17
May 20 2012 18:35 GMT
#401
On May 21 2012 03:27 aksfjh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2012 01:47 Catch]22 wrote:
On May 20 2012 17:25 Greentellon wrote:
If private sector can make space technology profitable, it's a VERY good thing. Especially the space mining of asteroids Cameron & Co. wanted to do. It will lead to new advances in space technology, as they try to make things as cheap and effective as possible.



Im really curious and skeptical about the possibility of private sector space industry being profitable...

It requires tourism.

I think tourism alone, while a massive industry, would be overshadowed by industrial exploitation of other planets' resources...though obviously we are far, far away from that really and while having the potential to be massively profitable, there would probably be a ton of backlash or something of that nature...so never mind. Would require a heck of a lot of tourism, and has the potential to get it, though.
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
May 20 2012 18:35 GMT
#402
Broadcast of the SpaceX launch starts at 0630 GMT (2:30 a.m. EDT) Tuesday.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
BuddhaMonk
Profile Joined August 2010
781 Posts
May 20 2012 18:46 GMT
#403
I think private sector taking over tasks is a natural evolution. Why should NASA focus on launch vehicles when interplanetary science is where the real ground breaking stuff is happening?
Lord Gilgamesh
Profile Joined May 2012
Angola17 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-20 22:21:37
May 20 2012 22:20 GMT
#404
The privet sector will flourish in the realm in space discovery since it will be driven by real capitalism and can be funded by advertisments. There would be nothing wrong selling their shuttle surface space to put some kind of billboard on it and then finally we can go to Mars.
I am Gilgamesh, Prince of Angola and have a proposition for you. A son of mine has been captured by Angolan rebels and a lucrative offer ...
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
May 21 2012 21:04 GMT
#405
SpaceX engineers have cleared the company's Falcon 9 rocket and Dragon cargo capsule for another try tomorrow to kick off NASA's first commercial flight to the International Space Station.

The engineers replaced a suspect valve in an engine that triggered a last-second launch abort Saturday and carried out a data review to make sure there were no other problems, clearing the way for a second attempt.

With forecasters predicting an 80 percent chance of good weather, the 178-foot-tall Falcon 9 is scheduled for liftoff from launch complex 40 at the Cape Canaveral Air Force Station at 3:44:38 a.m. EDT.


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Bowdz
Profile Joined September 2007
United States202 Posts
May 21 2012 22:20 GMT
#406
Wired wrote a great article about the specific issue that caused the auto-abort. It goes into a bit more depth than usual for those who are interested:

http://www.wired.com/autopia/2012/05/spacex-nitrogen-purge-valve-abort/

I'm starting to get anxious for the launch again. Here's to hoping they are able to nail it this time.
"Mastering others is strength. Mastering yourself makes you fearless." - Lao Tzu
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
May 22 2012 07:49 GMT
#407
It's lifted off!
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
May 22 2012 07:55 GMT
#408
The Dragon is in orbit!
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
May 22 2012 07:57 GMT
#409
Solar Rays deployed!!!!!
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Bowdz
Profile Joined September 2007
United States202 Posts
May 22 2012 08:53 GMT
#410
I was so anxious watching the countdown up until the second stage kicked in (I spent the morning watching rocket explosions from the USSR, China, and India which probably didn't help my fears). Seeing the solar rays deploy and the reaction at Hawthorne from the SpaceX webcast crew was incredible. I am still in awe at the fact that they were able to auto-abort a launch at 0.5 seconds, safe the rocket in a few hours, detect the problem, fix the problem, get re-certified, and launch in under 3 days. Here's to hoping for a successful docking and mission for SpaceX in the coming days.
"Mastering others is strength. Mastering yourself makes you fearless." - Lao Tzu
Hoban
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1600 Posts
May 22 2012 09:16 GMT
#411
Have a cousin who works at SpaceX and he described it like "Christmas came early this year, Santa arrived on a rocket and brought a whole lot of success!" Needless to say, he was pretty excited. I think this spells really good things for the company. They are pulling of these amazing feats at such a rapid pace that we may actually see a drastic evolution in spacefaring in our lifetime. This makes me so giddy. It has always been my dream to some day travel to space. Even if it takes a lifetime of saving, some day I'll do it, and these guys are making it more and more accessible.

And I just noticed your post count is 13337 StealthBlue, does that make you super awesome?
"I am a leaf on the wind."
aksfjh
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4853 Posts
May 22 2012 12:12 GMT
#412
FINALLY! I was starting to fear that they were going to be left on the launch pad for 6 months or blow it up. I wonder if the delays helped with the astounding success with the mission, giving engineers unplanned extended deadlines to double/triple check work.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-22 16:52:28
May 22 2012 16:44 GMT
#413
On May 22 2012 18:16 Hoban wrote:
Have a cousin who works at SpaceX and he described it like "Christmas came early this year, Santa arrived on a rocket and brought a whole lot of success!" Needless to say, he was pretty excited. I think this spells really good things for the company. They are pulling of these amazing feats at such a rapid pace that we may actually see a drastic evolution in spacefaring in our lifetime. This makes me so giddy. It has always been my dream to some day travel to space. Even if it takes a lifetime of saving, some day I'll do it, and these guys are making it more and more accessible.

And I just noticed your post count is 13337 StealthBlue, does that make you super awesome?


Didn't even notice, damn

Also Charles Bolden speaking on the success of the launch, can't find the Press Conference so if somebody could dig up a YouTube version... *hint* *hint*





The Dragon, now orbiting Earth, is the spacecraft that SpaceX will attempt to dock with the International Space Station later this week, on Friday, pending tests that will determine whether its sensors, controls and other equipment necessary to complete the historic docking procedure are in working order.

If this is completed, SpaceX will be allowed to dock with the station, becoming the first-ever nongovernmental entity to do so and the fifth ever, outside the United States, Russia, Japan and the European Union.

Then, on Saturday, astronauts currently aboard the space station will enter the attached Dragon capsule and transfer some 1,014 pounds of non-critical supplies, including food, water and clothing, from the Dragon to their orbital home. They’ll replace that cargo with another 1,367 pounds of discarded equipment and garbage and when the Dragon decouples from the station after about two weeks, it will take the new cargo back with it on its re-entry to Earth. The Dragon is supposed to plunge into the Pacific Ocean and be retrieved and re-used, becoming the first of a new class of reusable commercial cargo supply vessels made by SpaceX and other companies.

However, as both NASA and SpaceX officials cautioned, the docking is actually the most challenging part of the mission.

“There are still lots of activities that will occur over the next few days that will stretch the SpaceX team and even stretch the NASA team,” said William “Bill” Gerstenmaier, NASA’s associate administrator of human exploration operations, in the press conference held at NASA’s Kennedy Space Center in Florida following SpaceX’s launch on Tuesday.


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Rassy
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2308 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-23 00:22:19
May 23 2012 00:16 GMT
#414
To boldly build what noone has build before.

http://theweek.com/article/index/227989/the-ambitious-plan-to-build-star-treks-uss-enterprise

http://www.buildtheenterprise.org/

Gratz on the launch btw, it is a milestone.
Hope the docking goes well also.
Epocalypse
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada319 Posts
May 23 2012 01:15 GMT
#415
This is wonderful! Here's are a couple of quotes from the CEO on the success of the launch.
http://bit.ly/KkvaKO

So do you guys think that SpaceX will be able to do to a government started program what the private sector did to the internet?
bw4life
Bazzyrick
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom361 Posts
May 23 2012 11:03 GMT
#416
Bringing Space exploration to the Private Sector....

Just 1 step closer to Firefly being a reality!

In all seriousness though I'm a total nerd about Space and privatization is a fantastic step forward, they can accomplish so much more than Government controlled organisations can on less money and in shorter time frames. If I could walk on another habitable planet and breathe its air before I died, I would be the happiest man alive.
You exist because we allow it and you will end because we demand it.
Epocalypse
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada319 Posts
May 23 2012 11:13 GMT
#417
More on the politics of Privatizing.
bw4life
Bowdz
Profile Joined September 2007
United States202 Posts
May 24 2012 01:05 GMT
#418
SpaceX/NASA just tweeted that there will be coverage of the flyby of the ISS at 2:30 AM EST/ 12:30 AM PST.
"Mastering others is strength. Mastering yourself makes you fearless." - Lao Tzu
LarJarsE
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1378 Posts
May 24 2012 01:24 GMT
#419
nasa cant compete. these private COs are getting more funds. I am all for private companys in exploring outer space
since 98'
Epocalypse
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada319 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-24 01:39:13
May 24 2012 01:36 GMT
#420
On May 24 2012 10:24 LarJarsE wrote:
nasa cant compete. these private COs are getting more funds. I am all for private companys in exploring outer space


That must be sarcasm. But you should try to avoid it as it is not always clear.

NASA had a 16-19 billion dollar a year budget. SpaceX total cost for launching their first rocket into space was 300 million. You do the math. Oh and NASA hasn't launched anything since which date? I'll let you look that up since you are so keen on facts. How much more productive is SpaceX as compared to NASA.

Watch the video above.
bw4life
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