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Huge misstep by the organizer. The complaint letter may have missed something though---that kind of entertainment is bound to alienate some people, however, just about any entertainment imaginable would be bound to alienate some people. It wouldn't be possible to find a band everyone loved, or a party theme everyone loved or whatever like that. The important difference is that strippers ARE a moral issue for many people--so the people who aren't able to enjoy that kind of show can't even 'grin and bear it' without incurring guilt, or being offended or something like that. In case you're wondering, i'm one of those people that would be totally put off by something like this.
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On December 15 2010 01:46 Iracor wrote: Being that it was an all male school, there shouldn't really be problem with it. However, I can see how someone in a committed relationship would be turned off by the whole thing.
I'd just like to point out that the largest group of strip club clientelle are married men over the age of 30, guys who can go out and get laid whenever they want aren't so interested in Stippers.
Back on topic...
75 guys in a room drinking beer, all that's missing is strippers. Seriously.
If there were women, then no strippers as that would be insensitive, but 75 drunk dudes in a room together with no women? That's not normal, even for gay guys.
Perhaps those who were offended should lighten up and realise that a party full of guys in their 20's won't be fun for long. You haven't seen eachother in years, you have all changed and grown up and you probably don't have much to say to each other.... at least thats what it was like at my school reuinion.
I spoke to god knows how many people and all I could think for the entire night was "now I remember why I thought you were a dick/bitch". I would have killed to have some excitment!
Considering that you are from Australia, one of the least backwards countries in the world when it comes to debauchery, I am suprised that this was even an issue. Its also very suspect when someone sits thru said stripper show and then complains the next day. I'm willing to bet he has a gf at home who he had to appease, because there are very few men who find looking at naked women offensive or inappropriate when only in the company of other men. My best friend is gay and anytime we are somewhere there are strippers he is the one suggesting we take a look, and all our other gay friends are usually the ones that agree with him while the straight ones are a bit more suspect as they have gf's to go home to lol.
edit: I should point out the gay guys have bf's but their bf's are usually with us anyway.
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74 guys enjoy stripper 1 doesnt. 74 guys are vegetarian 1 eats meat.. who loses here
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i don't see anything wrong.. if they didnt want to see it they could have left right ?
no such thing as a bad time for strippers
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On December 15 2010 02:21 krew406 wrote: 74 guys enjoy stripper 1 doesnt. 74 guys are vegetarian 1 eats meat.. who loses here
I suppose the point made by the guy who wrote Jayzo on Facebook is that it was likely more than one person. If it's ten people, is that really ten people you want to alienize over choice of entertainment?
The point was made that if it was announced on beforehand it would be easier to reach the consensus that you describe and find out who likes what. If everyone is alright with the strippers while one guy vehemently complains, then they have the choice of saying "oh no, that guy! Oh well, we'll accommodate his special needs again" or simply deciding to ignore his complains for the "better" of the group.
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reunion's are never fun - I say bring on the strippers!
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Asjo, you sir are trying to destroy the ancient art of the suprise
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It's fine.
People need to learn to be less sensitive. And if you're going to have 74 guys around, adding 2 strippers can only lighten the sausagefest.
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On December 14 2010 20:35 mofisto wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2010 20:04 niteReloaded wrote:
There's time and place for strippers .. and that time is known as all the time.why would you sit through the entire show, then bitch and complain. what was the crowds reaction? were most people enjoying the.......exhibition? if they were then clearly most of them didnt mind about the strippers. If on the other hand you all stood there in near silence, then clearly it was a faux pas. Stop thinking with your dick.
Who in their right mind would do something like this when the group is 75 people. No shit that's going to offend SOMEONE and cause more than a little bit of awkwardness. People have all kinds of reasons for it too - girlfriend, religion, being a prude, or just wanting to keep their sexual interests to themselves.
Edit: Also, didn't 3 other guys leave? So of 75, 3 left [presumably offended] and 1 complained loudly.
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On December 15 2010 02:32 krew406 wrote: Asjo, you sir are trying to destroy the ancient art of the suprise
Oh, you're right.
I do have a point, though, so maybe if the surprise element is important, a reunion wouldn't be the best place to do it. It's unlikely that you know the people in it well enough to know whether they would appreciate a stripper. If you do, of course, it wouldn't be a problem.
Then again, with it being an all-boys school, maybe it was more necessary. Maybe the event acted as a release of some kind. Of course, I wouldn't know - you would have to have experienced it. My main point was that not wanting strippers is likely not just about people being sexually uncomfortable or stuck-up (religion, relationship, etc.).
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Getting fully naked and staying that way in the middle of a social gathering is a fun way to spice up those boring holiday parties, but it takes both physical and emotional dexterity to successfully execute. You can't simply tear your clothes off and be done with it. You have to ease your way into it; you have to use a little something called finesse.
Let's be honest: we've all been there, leaning against the bar in some dank dive, 75 of your close friends leering at and skulking around two beaten-up, manky strippers. Candy, the younger of the two, grinds on a bar stool, her vacant expression no alibi for her wandering thoughts. You wonder what shattered dreams or broken childhood she pines for as she begins to perform fellatio on her own fist. The other stripper, whom you've dubbed, "The Skeksis," writhes around on the buffet table before suggesting body shots. You struggle to hold down the beer you've been nursing as they fit two full shots and a mixer into her belly button. Your eyes glaze over and the dark, Fincher-esque bar, looking like a scene from Eyes Wide Shut, fades from focus as you daydream about being somewhere that doesn't make you feel inexplicably greasy.
But all is not lost, friends, for you still have your trump card, your ace-in-the-hole, the one thing that never fails to make a party interesting (at least for you). Getting naked! Getting naked in front of a crowd of people with subtlety and grace is a logistical nightmare, but thankfully there are some guidelines to keep in mind that will help smooth out the process:
- Take your clothes off slowly, maintaining eye contact with whomever you were conversing with. Don't wear clothing that is difficult to remove, or expensive to replace should you have to leave it behind in a hurry.
- Try not to have a boner when you get naked. Naked + Flaccid = Casual, Non-Threatening. Naked + Erect = Aggressive, Threatening, Might try to mount me. If you know you can't help yourself, you may want to look into some novelty items to disguise or dress-up your penis, like a tiny Santa hat.
- Don't fart. Without clothes to act as a buffer, pure fart can prove quite toxic, not to mention the dangers of some fecal matter making a daring escape. Many first-timers get excited during their initial attempt, and bad things can happen when you mix booze, adrenaline and a cavalier fart policy.
- Have fun with it! While the rest of your 75 closest friends watch Candy twirl around a support beam and absent-mindedly pick at her scabs, you'll be experiencing a whole new world of freedom. Enjoy that breeze, buddy. You've earned it.
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I think it's absolutely fine if it was for the after party, and personally that would probably heavily influence my decision regarding whether I want to attend the reunion or not. I've yet to attend a reunion, but it sounds really damn boring and 2 strippers at the after party would definitely spice things up. Plus you said that you guys know each other fairly well, so I don't see how it would be awkward if no one there is married yet.
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hahahahahahahahaha JackMcCoy delivers
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I don't think it's that bad, but I probably wouldn't do something like that.
If it's only ~20 minutes, and it's all guys, and it's an AFTER party, not the reunion itself, who cares! Not a biggie in my opinion. But once again, prob wouldn't suggest it myself.
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1) I personally don't think I would find it inappropriate but I can see how someone might. That does not make them gay but it might say they have some REALLY twisted sexual tastes. I personally am not a big fan of strippers, but I don't like window-shopping either.
2) If 75 people were present and only 1 complained, consider it a success. If 75 people showed up and 65 thought it was a boring waste of time, you just had the typical high school reunion.
3) 5 year reunions are weaksauce, even more-so if you guys are tight friends. You have a reunion every time you go out. I went to HS with a graduating class of like 300 and couldn't stand the idea of a ten year reunion.
4) Religion is for idiots. Science > GOD imo.
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Um if people were so offended they could have just left. But of course thats not how easily offended people normally operate, they like to expose themselves as much as possible to said "offensive" material in order to justify their whining and complaining later on.
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On December 15 2010 02:57 terr0r wrote: 4) Religion is for idiots. Science > GOD imo. Yes but you're not supposed to say that on TL, especially not out of context
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On December 15 2010 02:57 Brent352 wrote: Um if people were so offended they could have just left. But of course thats not how easily offended people normally operate, they like to expose themselves as much as possible to said "offensive" material in order to justify their whining and complaining later on. This ignores social pressure to stay at the event and pretend to be enjoying it, and also that the guy may have decided that, in the interest of being with his buddies, he'd like to stay despite not being a fan of the strippers. Also "offended" isn't really the right word here. From the guy's message, it just seems like he felt uncomfortable and that the strippers weren't the right fit for the event. That's much more reasonable than actually feeling personally affronted at the sight of a stripper. (If it's possible to say that the guy was offended, it'd have to be on the basis that his friends would do something at a big gathering that would make a good number of the people there uncomfortable, not the strippers per se.)
Have any of you ever seen something slightly "off," not said anything at the time, and then realized later that what happened wasn't quite right and you ought speak up? I think that's a pretty common feeling, and looks like this guy had it.
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On December 15 2010 02:56 JWD wrote: hahahahahahahahaha JackMcCoy delivers i agree. best post in this topic.
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I'd rather just go to a stripper bar and skip the reunion all together.
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