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Loomies
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JSH
United States4109 Posts
On December 09 2010 12:36 Loomies wrote: ^^^ blatant advertisement? join date is just now and first post is a shady dealer lol so is anyone going to buy crappy $1 dollar earbud in a headphone enthusiast thread  | ||
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Gatsbi
United States1134 Posts
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HighDistortion
United States52 Posts
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ieatkids5
United States4628 Posts
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sl0w
United States447 Posts
On December 09 2010 13:25 HighDistortion wrote: Hey, so let me ask you guys what would be the best pair of headphones in the 100-150 price range? Sennheiser HD595...but a good pair of headphones is worthless without a decent sound card fyi. | ||
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Blackhawk13
United States442 Posts
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Barett
Canada454 Posts
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Fyodor
Canada971 Posts
On December 09 2010 10:35 Myrmidon wrote: Well, even if the requirements do rule out 99% (arbitrary figure--I have no idea how much it really is) of op amps, 1% still represents lots and lots of op amps. Anyhow, the question is not about why certain op amps are unsuitable. Many general-purpose or specialized op amps would sound absolutely terrible, because of unacceptable distortion levels, poor characteristics close to 0V, not being able to supply enough current, not having enough voltage swing, having too low slew rate, or whatever, as you say. In any case, the input and output impedance, gain-bandwidth product, SNR, IMD, output characteristics, operating range, etc. should be sufficient for a group of op amps that we'll call "suitable for audio." The question is about why one should favor one suitable-for-audio op amp over another. If you look at the specs, these devices (e.g. LM4652) are getting THD+N at around 0.0001% with reasonable output levels and loads. If there's another op amp with a THD+N at around 0.0001% (or even at 0.005% for that matter), are you going going to be able to hear the difference between those two? It's not just THD+N that looks ludicrously good beyond the threshold of audibility, but all relevant stats that are reported. Think about it this way: let's say we have one device that reproduces a signal that is 99.999% true to the original in some sense. If you have another device that reproduces a signal that is 99.999% true to the original, why would you want the first device over the second, or the second one over the first? How do you distinguish between the two? Even if the 0.001% "inaccuracy" occurs differently in the two devices, aren't they both already so close it doesn't matter? The above is a gross oversimplification, of course--just used as an explanation. I understand what you're saying and looking at the oversimplified specs it does seem silly to compare opamps that are theoretically perfect, but you're arguing within a vacuum. If you can show me that there exists at least a few ideal opamps with flawless specs like we enumerated then we'll have made some work here. I know these are well regarded opamps for a headphone amplifier or DAC: http://focus.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/opa627.pdf http://focus.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/opa134.pdf Can't make heads or tails of these spec sheets though. Don't how perfect they are (or aren't) for audio. | ||
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Fyodor
Canada971 Posts
On December 09 2010 16:31 Blackhawk13 wrote: someone should educate us on some of this terminology like mids, highs (I assume volume? lol), amps, dacs, which headphones would need them, etc ^__v mids and highs refer to musical note regions. Highs are typically cymbals, glass shattering, etc. While lows are things like bass drums on a drum kit or notes from a bass guitar. Headphones don't always treat those regions equally. When it comes to amps, headphones with high power requirements will need them. All headphones benefit from the clean signal a quality amp will offer, however. For DACs, all headphones need a good DAC. They determine the quality of the signal to be amplified so the better it is, the better the sound you get in your headphones. | ||
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Humbug
United States264 Posts
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Zax19
Czech Republic1136 Posts
On November 14 2010 09:14 Gridlock wrote: Sennheiser HD-25's !! I DJ all over, perfect for that but also awesome for any type of audio. Closed, but not heavy on the head and comfortable when worn for for hours on end. All parts are replaceable too, but I think that's normal for Senn's? Oops spoiler cos I'm noob and can't resize... + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://www.productwiki.com/upload/images/sennheiser_hd_25_1_ii.jpg) +1 for the awesomness. I have to say that for me the sound improvement from cca 100 USD to 230 USD isn't that big, but what you pay for is simply the "physical" quality. I don't DJ but I wanted portable headphones for commuting.... At first I didn't have spare money and I had to buy ATH-SJ5s. The sound quality is perfectly ok, but the headband isn't "cushioned", it stretches out and stays stretched, and the jack broke pretty fast. I was a bit mad that I had to pay so much more just for the "physical" quality, but what you get is a really good design. I love the fact that after using them you can sometimes notice a "twitch" as they "shrink" back, the clamping is weaker than after the purchase, but it's still decent. PS: At GSL and other tournaments I've seen a special pieace of HD-25s with a microphone, yay! :D | ||
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Zax19
Czech Republic1136 Posts
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Fyodor
Canada971 Posts
On December 09 2010 18:25 Zax19 wrote: +1 for the awesomness. I have to say that for me the sound improvement from cca 100 USD to 230 USD isn't that big, but what you pay for is simply the "physical" quality. I don't DJ but I wanted portable headphones for commuting.... At first I didn't have spare money and I had to buy ATH-SJ5s. The sound quality is perfectly ok, but the headband isn't "cushioned", it stretches out and stays stretched, and the jack broke pretty fast. I was a bit mad that I had to pay so much more just for the "physical" quality, but what you get is a really good design. I love the fact that after using them you can sometimes notice a "twitch" as they "shrink" back, the clamping is weaker than after the purchase, but it's still decent. PS: At GSL and other tournaments I've seen a special pieace of HD-25s with a microphone, yay! :D yeah, the HD-25 is pretty popular for broadcasters. | ||
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ieatkids5
United States4628 Posts
On December 09 2010 18:13 Fyodor wrote: For DACs, all headphones need a good DAC. They determine the quality of the signal to be amplified so the better it is, the better the sound you get in your headphones. No they don't, only certain headphones need them. And a number of others do benefit, but need? I don't think so. And then many more don't need them at all. On December 09 2010 18:18 Humbug wrote: Shoutout to ieatkids5 for his recommendations of MEElectronics M9 IEM's. I was a bit doubtful at first, but after burning them in, they sound excellent for their price (~$15.00) and sound equal to, if not better, than IEM's I've bought for twice that price. Really bassy, but that's fine by me. Let's just hope they pass the test that seems to plague all IEM's though: life span. Glad you like them. They're the IEMs I recommend the most for entry-level enthusiasts because of their great value. "Good" sound signature - usually people going from stock buds to a better pair want more bass, more clarity, and nice highs; the M9 gets you all of that for a cheap price. It also comes with all sorts of good stuff - decent amount of tips, shirt clip, carrying case. And the build quality is great - solid barrels and high quality cables. Try finding a better deal for $15. Or more recently, $10 - MEElec just ended their deal for $10 M9s. | ||
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Barett
Canada454 Posts
I see other people in this Thread have a Asus Essence ST with this card. Is there any cheaper Sound Cards I could get that would still support this card well? As for a AMP what exactly does it do, and do I need it? Thanks for the help. | ||
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Fyodor
Canada971 Posts
On December 09 2010 18:49 ieatkids5 wrote: No they don't, only certain headphones need them. And a number of others do benefit, but need? I don't think so. And then many more don't need them at all. I don't think you have any idea what a DAC does. Headphones can't make any sound without a DAC. I'm sorry but there's no discussion to be had here, the better the signal to the headphone, the better the sound. I can't imagine a headphone so terrible that wouldn't react to a better, cleaner signal. | ||
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Fyodor
Canada971 Posts
On December 09 2010 19:28 Barett wrote: I am going to be buying a Sennheiser HD595 from amazon for 150$. I dont know much about sound systems so I was wondering what Sound Card should I get with it? I see other people in this Thread have a Asus Essence ST with this card. Is there any cheaper Sound Cards I could get that would still support this card well? As for a AMP what exactly does it do, and do I need it? Thanks for the help. A sound card is collection of audio features that includes, among others, a DAC and an amp. It's an inferior solution to a dedicated DAC and amp but it still works ok. As for your question, an amp "amplifies" an analog signal to your headphones so it can move the diaphragm. A bad amp will introduce noise and distortion to the signal. | ||
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Barett
Canada454 Posts
I don't wanna spend more money then I need too, but I also want a good enough card that my Headphones will play at their up most potential. | ||
MrHoon
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Hey guys I want a permanent new replacement for my Iphone Earphone Yes I know Iphone earphone fucking sucks asssss and has a lifespan of 1.5 months. The only reason why I like the iphone earphones is that you're able to use the mic, which is great because I'm a lazy man Can you guys give me a recommendation? I've tried some 3rd Party Iphone Earphones from china but the sound quality is horrendous. I just really like the whole mic+volume up/down part. | ||
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