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bonifaceviii
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2890 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-22 17:55:09
December 22 2010 17:54 GMT
#1281
On a somewhat related note, Lolita is a hilarious book and you should really read it if you haven't. Nabokov is a comedy genius.
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Aberu
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States968 Posts
December 22 2010 18:18 GMT
#1282
On November 11 2010 07:48 Manifesto7 wrote:
Since they already publish the names, photos, and addresses of convicted sex offenders, just extend that to publish the names and places of people who buy this book.


Hey it's 1984! And I like it!
srsly
Mayfly
Profile Joined December 2010
145 Posts
December 22 2010 18:37 GMT
#1283
On December 23 2010 03:18 Aberu wrote:
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On November 11 2010 07:48 Manifesto7 wrote:
Since they already publish the names, photos, and addresses of convicted sex offenders, just extend that to publish the names and places of people who buy this book.


Hey it's 1984! And I like it!


Yeah and also it doesn't make sense.

In the first case it's the government sharing information and if the people are sovereign then you could make the argument that they have the rights to this information.

In the second case the government is forcing a privately-owned company to release the names of those who purchases a certain book.
iNfeRnaL *
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Germany1908 Posts
December 22 2010 18:48 GMT
#1284
Jesus... this is sick.
Loophole
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States867 Posts
December 22 2010 19:10 GMT
#1285
On November 11 2010 07:55 _Darwin_ wrote:
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If you censor it, it will just go down a good ole book burning path and set us back 100s of years culturally.


in logic this is called a shitty fallacious slippery slope argument. "ban pedophilia instruction?? what next Hemingway?!"


You're doing it wrong.

The fallacy you are referring to is "Non Causa Pro Causa," or "Non Cause for Cause," which is an informal fallacy. Informal fallacies are not inherently fallacious, that is, they are a type of fallacy in which the content of the argument is relevant to their fallaciousness. To be fallacious, a causal argument must violate the canons of good reasoning about causation in some common or deceptive way.

In this case the argument that banning one book can be used as precedent to ban other books of objectionable content is fairly solid. In fact one can point to examples of society following these slippery slopes in the past.
"Fundamental preparation is always effective. Work on those parts of your game that are fundamentally weak." -Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
Loophole
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States867 Posts
December 22 2010 19:23 GMT
#1286
On November 11 2010 08:13 _Darwin_ wrote:
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On November 11 2010 08:07 travis wrote:
On November 11 2010 08:03 _Darwin_ wrote:
On November 11 2010 08:02 Kletus wrote:
I don't see why this should be censored. Are books that describe maintenance of firearms and how to properly use said firearms censored too? Or how about books on how to use social engineering to steal identities? No, education in any form should never ever be censored.


The terrible analogies in this thread disheartens me.

You do not distinguish between firearm maintenance and child rape?


Books don't rape children.


This one certainly encourages it. Like Mein Kampf encouraged the slaughter of Jews.


Mein Kampf Product Page at Amazon.com

Shall we ban it?
"Fundamental preparation is always effective. Work on those parts of your game that are fundamentally weak." -Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
MrShank
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada144 Posts
December 22 2010 19:27 GMT
#1287
i think op is a pedo

User was warned for this post
Relax - its just a game
Loophole
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States867 Posts
December 22 2010 19:38 GMT
#1288
On November 11 2010 08:32 ZapRoffo wrote:
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On November 11 2010 08:27 CheezDip wrote:
Freedom of speech exists to protect unpopular ideas. Popular ideas don't need protection.

I don't understand why ideas that have no value beyond harming those in helpless positions (something that has been demonstrably shown and is accepted worldwide) should be protected?


Clearly, you do not understand.

Many people on this forum do not understand why freedom of speech should be protected.

Here, let me google that for you:

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=why should freedom of speech be protected?
"Fundamental preparation is always effective. Work on those parts of your game that are fundamentally weak." -Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
Baz
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United Kingdom289 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-22 20:51:45
December 22 2010 20:24 GMT
#1289
Edit: Withdrawn my comments. Don't want to be involved in this anymore
Loophole
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States867 Posts
December 22 2010 20:24 GMT
#1290
On November 11 2010 08:56 ggrrg wrote:
Free speech is universal, but incitement is criminal. The book should be banned, the author jailed and people who bought it registered.


That's the argument that China uses to throw their political dissidents in dungeons.
"Fundamental preparation is always effective. Work on those parts of your game that are fundamentally weak." -Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
Loophole
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States867 Posts
December 22 2010 20:33 GMT
#1291
On November 11 2010 09:07 VIB wrote:
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On November 11 2010 08:54 travis wrote:
Should it be illegal for[...]
Why are things illegal in the first place? Why do laws even exist?

To stop people who cause harm to the society from repeating it. If I say something that causes serious harm to other people, isn't it reasonable to consider doing something to prevent me from doing that again?

"Free speech is a right"

But what about:

"Your right ends when mine begins"

Doesn't the pedophiles' rights to free speech ends when the children's right to not be abused begin?


Yes, which is why it is illegal to abuse children sexually.

The child's right to not be abused doesn't begin when a book is published. it begins with the act.
"Fundamental preparation is always effective. Work on those parts of your game that are fundamentally weak." -Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
NIJ
Profile Joined March 2010
1012 Posts
December 22 2010 22:37 GMT
#1292
I don't care about what's right or wrong but at least advocating criminal act thru speech isn't illegal here in us.

They can talk about wanting to rape kids all day long. As long as they don't actually do it. Just as if I were to advocate legalization of heroin, I shouldn't be treated as a user just for that.

I heard there was lot of examples of first person experience in that book, which I suppose is grounds for questioning by authorities. But arrest? I don't think they have the right to do that.
Act of thinking logically cannot possibly be natural to the human mind. If it were, then mathematics would be everybody's easiest course at school and our species would not have taken several millennia to figure out the scientific method -NDT
The Touch
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom667 Posts
December 22 2010 23:08 GMT
#1293
On November 11 2010 07:37 VIB wrote:
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You Got The Touch
Warrior Madness
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada3791 Posts
December 22 2010 23:10 GMT
#1294
On December 23 2010 08:08 The Touch wrote:
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On November 11 2010 07:37 VIB wrote:
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Unfortunately I don't see a cat...
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Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
December 22 2010 23:14 GMT
#1295
On December 23 2010 08:10 Warrior Madness wrote:
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On December 23 2010 08:08 The Touch wrote:
On November 11 2010 07:37 VIB wrote:
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Unfortunately I don't see a cat...


the left mans holding up the cat sacrifice?
maybe
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
datscilly
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States529 Posts
December 23 2010 00:13 GMT
#1296
On December 23 2010 02:51 sikyon wrote:
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On December 22 2010 18:07 Baz wrote:
To satisfy you people that didnt get that, however, here is a more reasonable example for you. Following your logic, I should be allowed to sell a book "Terrorists guide to Destroying America"?. I should be allowed to sell this in America and round the world? Do you agree?


Yes. And FYI books like the anarchist cookbook have been on sale a long time which teaches people how to make bombs and weapons. You can buy books on military sniping, how to break into cars, etc.


The comparison with Anarchist Cookbook is close to how I feel about this. This is one of those things that exists, and it'll continue to exist whether people find out about it or not. A few posters are too family friendly / protective, or naive, but it doesn't shock me. Amazon, as a business, will get rid of it because it's too inflammatory.
recline
Profile Joined December 2010
United States76 Posts
December 23 2010 00:22 GMT
#1297
im all for universal rights but this is just horrible... this is going to cause many children to be scared for life and increase the number of sexual predators who are not caught .... They should track every purchase of the book and find all of these disgusting pedos
tommya
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada52 Posts
December 23 2010 00:34 GMT
#1298
I don't really see anything wrong with this book. I can understand some people not wanting to read it, so they simply shouldn't read it. If someone else wants to read a book, that is their business.

I don't like the book To Kill a Mockingbird. I don't think it should be removed / discarded for containing things I disagree with, I simply won't read it again. Maybe I won't even let my children read it. I'm sure some people love this book though, and would defend it as well as they can.

To the people suggesting that this book will "harm" children, I disagree. Young children can't read for starters, so that kind of makes them immune to books. Children who can read wouldn't want to read a full chapter book, they want to read a picture book about building a treehouse or something. By the time a child would actually want to read a full book, why do you think they would pick this book? If they didn't like it / were scared by it, maybe they could simply... stop reading.

Maybe I'm just desensitized, but maybe some of you are too sensitive about the book.
SWED
FrostOtter
Profile Joined September 2010
United States537 Posts
December 23 2010 00:41 GMT
#1299
On December 23 2010 09:34 tommya wrote:


I don't like the book To Kill a Mockingbird. I don't think it should be removed / discarded for containing things I disagree with, I simply won't read it again. Maybe I won't even let my children read it. I'm sure some people love this book though, and would defend it as well as they can.
.

I was going to just lurk in this thread, but this little part caught my eye.

What exactly do you disagree with in TKaM? That black people shouldn't be unfairly arrested and jailed for crimes they didn't commit? I mean, it isn't my favorite book, but what exactly is objectionable in it?
Rebornlife
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada224 Posts
December 23 2010 09:48 GMT
#1300
I HAVE NOT read the contents of this book. But for someone to publish an accurate and detailed description on getting away with and having sex with kids, and to also portray views from the child's perspective tells me something about the author. He has very likely been abused as a child, and he has very likely abused children. Now the police obviously can't arrest him on that merit. So they pull a few strings and get him in on something else (which is most likely bogus). They don't want him spreading this information clearly.

And don't compare this to "How to kill a person" Or "How to build a bomb" etc. Because they are very different. For one, the general public doesn't know how to get away with something like child abuse. If you asked a large survey of people how to get away with murder, and how to get away with sexually abusing a child, my bet is people will generally know how to kill, and not rape. Killing is physical work you do yourself, and is completely dependent on YOU. While rape is something very psychological. It is not 100% dependent on you, but also the victim.

You can teach someone how to kill in person, how to construct weapons, etc. But teaching someone how to abuse a child is something you most likely do over a medium (a book?). So stopping at least one small part of that medium helps.

My money goes on that this author has committed crimes, and the police will try to figure them out. I think the police are more concerned with bringing down a child abuser who shares his techniques with the world to teach others than bringing down "Free speech". Unfortunately to bring him down "Free speech" comes as collateral.
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