Gay College Student Suicide after Webcam Broadcast - Page 6

On October 01 2010 07:17 Tempest186 wrote:
I think the major reason why you are getting flamed Murderotica is due to insensitivity.

Most people are logical enough to deduce as to why suicide is illogical. But I must say that the method by which you are attempting to prove it, for lack of a better word, BLOWS. You are taking a particular case, and blaming it on the victim.

This insensitivity will likely just cause people to dislike you, as even I am trying to hold back contempt lol. If you want to validate the wrongs of suicide do it simply and to the point, without coming across like a douche. Now, I don't know you, you may be awesome and I hope you are. I just want to let you know what your problem in this particular forum is.

1) your points are too rambling and contradictory. If your going to say something, get to the point. (ie if health is a virtue or good, then the cessation of life under any circumstances is a vice/bad)...see that!

2) don't come across so hostile lol.

Just looking out for you kid! Good luck

On October 01 2010 07:25 Lurker87 wrote:
Have to wonder just how little self-esteem that roommate must have had, that he had to do something so extravagant, in hopes of appearing cool on the net (many try to impress on the internet, with no foreseeable reward, but this really IS extreme...).

What an ass... I wouldn't be surprised if he felt absolutely remorse over his actions.

On October 01 2010 07:22 Murderotica wrote:

I am an insensitive person. I never disagreed with that. I am also a douche a lot of the time, but it is because I am honest to myself and to others about my opinion. That makes it probably worse, since it means I am an asshole at heart, but, oh well.

1) Sorry, English not my first language. I try to write well but sometimes I fuck up.

2) I'm a generally hostile person.

EDIT: Thanks

On October 01 2010 07:27 Murderotica wrote:
Also btw the girl so far has been proven to only do 1 thing, which is let the guy use her room. How the fuck is that a manslaughter charge? She would have been letting him use the room even without the webcam fiasco.

On October 01 2010 07:29 Rev0lution wrote:


I don't think your honest in as much as you are blunt and bluntness comes from immaturity.
You can make your point without sounding like a huge dick, you know?

Work on your social skills, I take it your a douche online but actually a pretty down to earth guy IRL?

On October 01 2010 07:30 Manifesto7 wrote:
At the end of the day, because of the parameters that have been set up in society about being gay, "coming out" is a profound moment for many gay people. Some do it easily and willingly, some have to pick the right place and time, some have to wait for a certain family member to pass away, and some never do it at all.

We don't know where Clementi was in the process, but we do know that his roommate took that choice, that incredibly important decision, away from him. On a whim. For a joke. A twitter joke. Nobody has a right to do that.



Clementi on the left, the human garbage that did it on the middle and right.

On October 01 2010 07:30 Manifesto7 wrote:
At the end of the day, because of the parameters that have been set up in society about being gay, "coming out" is a profound moment for many gay people. Some do it easily and willingly, some have to pick the right place and time, some have to wait for a certain family member to pass away, and some never do it at all.

We don't know where Clementi was in the process, but we do know that his roommate took that choice, that incredibly important decision, away from him. On a whim. For a joke. A twitter joke. Nobody has a right to do that.



Clementi on the left, the human garbage that did it on the middle and right.

On October 01 2010 07:32 Murderotica wrote:

Blunt = down to earth imo. I speak pretty much the same way in person, and yea it pisses a lot of people off, but I think honesty helps a lot of people out in some ways. When other people are blindly supporting of someone, I am blunt and tell them that they are stupid, they fucked up, and here are reasons a b and c for why what they did is stupid. That's down to earth, right? I don't feel the need to work on my social skills because I get along with a lot of people, and the people I don't get along with (obviously, if I have the luxury of doing such, as in people who are not my boss/colleagues/clients) I can live without, because it expresses a fundamental flaw between us.

On October 01 2010 06:38 Ichabod wrote:
This story is really unfortunate...but why is it national (international) news? Approximately 90 people in the US alone commit suicide every day (2007 data, 33,000/year source), sure the circumstances surrounding this suicide are 'unique' because he was homosexual (Edit: and was outed in the a pretty terrible way), but it is not like this doesn't happen all the time (Edit: over lesser and greater things)...why single him out even in death?

I don't think there are any problems that lie specifically in being selfish. It seems to me that in life that our primary obligation is to tend to our selves and to do what we want.

(this is in response to the whole "suicide is selfish" argument. My reply is "yes, but so what?") It's not our responsibility to protect others from indirect harm, that doesn't seem reasonable at all.

On October 01 2010 07:19 Murderotica wrote:
1. I am agnostic, I believe in science, and therefore the decay of our bodies. That is why I say we only have 1 life to live. I feel that makes it more valuable to me than perhaps even religion can make it seem, with the divine judgment ahead and all that. Personal opinion of course.