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TheAngelofDeath
United States2033 Posts
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Zarahtra
Iceland4053 Posts
On October 01 2010 08:14 Ilikestarcraft wrote: man I should have paid attention to the site name when I clicked on that ugh Haha my reaction too  Was like "wtf are all those nakkid dudes doing there?"Anyway, I don't really care that much about the gay part, and I don't think we can condemn the guy too much about this. I mean these kind of jokes aren't too uncommon, sadly that is one of the drawbacks of the society we live in. I mean if he had not killed himself, I'm sure a lot of people(and I won't rule myself out) would have a laugh if the video was broadcasted(assuming the roommate had tried to humiliate him in the video rather than just showing 2 guys going at it). Like the saying goes, "It's all fun and games until somebody gets hurt". This makes it a lot harder for me to try make the roommate be 'the bad guy'. Insensitive and a douche perhaps, but without these kind of consequences it'd be a rather accepted behavior. And about suicide in general. I personally think a person should have full rights to do whatever they do with their life aslong as it doesn't break others people rights, this includes ending their own live. Society should ofcourse not recommend it and it should never be a light decision, but it should still be your decision to decide you want to get over your issues and look forward on what lies ahead. This is without considering momentary 'insanity' which you might be able to snap out of the train of thought with a good night sleep or w/e.(main point being, people shouldn't get locked up and made try to 'get well' if they have deep desire to kill themselves). People have said that it's selfish to commit suicide, I say like I think travis said earlier in the thread, 'so what?' I mean you can argue almost anything you do is being selfish, fx. being overweight is selfish, since you could've given the food to the homeless. | ||
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Masamune
Canada3401 Posts
 I agree though, anything could be seen as selfish; us posting on these forums is selfish when our time could be spent at a soup kitchen. | ||
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HardcoreBilly
United States222 Posts
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Deadlyhazard
United States1177 Posts
On October 02 2010 11:32 Masamune wrote: good post zarahtra and nice english I agree though, anything could be seen as selfish; us posting on these forums is selfish when our time could be spent at a soup kitchen.Precisely. We must all be selfish for survival. This goes for everyone. | ||
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Kanil
United States1713 Posts
Many of us have secrets that, if revealed in properly, could certainly cause us to commit suicide. Just because this gentleman's particular secret was his homosexuality doesn't make this especially noteworthy to me. Sad? Certainly. But not news. | ||
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SeaweedToss
17 Posts
On October 02 2010 15:17 Kanil wrote: I find this basically a non-issue. Many of us have secrets that, if revealed in properly, could certainly cause us to commit suicide. Just because this gentleman's particular secret was his homosexuality doesn't make this especially noteworthy to me. Sad? Certainly. But not news. Ummm I understand that the young gay man must have felt terrible and may he RIP. I also hope the person that was involved with the posting of it online is punished for what he did, but I dont think everybodys first reaction to secrects being revealed is to commit suicide. Maybe its your first reaction and a select few, but i think the majority of people are not obsessed with what other people think about them. For the most part there is always something better than death. This young man was not living with a painful illness, he did not lose all his limbs in a war, he was gay! I'm sure it had a greater impact on him since he is younger and during those years people tend to care more about what their peers think. But again there is usually always something better than death. | ||
Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On October 02 2010 06:41 Jacobs Ladder wrote: I don't think he was calling you out, but rather the community as a whole. He's right, though, its pathetic how many people here are homophobes. I just don't get it, I don't give a fuck what ANYONES orientation is. You can be having a 3 way with hermaphroditic midgets for all I care, it doesn't effect me. As for the person who said "suicide should be mocked", you're wrong. You're also an idiot. I hate to break into ad hominems but I feel you earned it in this case. Mocking suicide will make it so much worse. If someone is considering suicide, it is (in their mind) a rational decision. It seems like the most efficient way to end the pain. They're miserable and likely already feel terrible that they are considering it. Saying that anyone who commits suicide is a coward, or weak, or anything like that will only exacerbate a suicidal teens feeling of worthlessness, ostracisation, or pain. The way I see it, the only way anyone could make those comments is if they've never been anywhere near depressed in their entire life. Or haven't admitted it. I'm a bit disappointed with this thread as well. I echo most of your post, but I think the fact that he was gay is important as NukeTheBunnies is right. Sweeping the issue of sexuality under the rug is part of what creates the problem in the first place. | ||
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Ganondorf
Italy600 Posts
Just consider how the ancients (ie before the church was formed) considered same sex relationships, maybe slightly immoral but nothing to worry about. They used to say that Iulius Ceasar was the man of all women and the woman of all men. I don't think he was gay or bisex or straight, no category, he just did what he wanted and nobody worried too much about it. | ||
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