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TheAngelofDeath
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2033 Posts
October 02 2010 00:53 GMT
#261
This is sad. Why people had to get in this guys business is beyond me.
"Infestors are the suck" - LzGamer
Zarahtra
Profile Joined May 2010
Iceland4053 Posts
October 02 2010 02:06 GMT
#262
On October 01 2010 08:14 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
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On October 01 2010 07:13 Murderotica wrote:
On October 01 2010 07:06 viraltouch wrote:
the example doesn't parallel with this case like you said, but it was to make a point that you don't need to physically push someone off the bridge to be responsible for his death.

also its not only breach of privacy if you go on your twitter mocking them of their sexual activities and broacasting it live for everyone to see.

If he cared about privacy so much he would have closed the window, or gone to a hotel, or covered up his homosexuality at least.

I am sorry, but any normal person would think asking your roommate to stay away from a night is a precaution for privacy. when two people are in a room, you normally expect that its just between two of them, not +webcam and rest of the world.

It was not the rest of the world. It was the room mate and his friends, which would have happened anyway, since he made it so obvious he was having a gay relationship. Word of mouth. He was not cautious enough, given that the stakes were so high.

Also, about forums:

http://www.justusboys.com/forum/showthread.php?t=320377

Go read for yourself.

man I should have paid attention to the site name when I clicked on that ugh

Haha my reaction too Was like "wtf are all those nakkid dudes doing there?"

Anyway, I don't really care that much about the gay part, and I don't think we can condemn the guy too much about this. I mean these kind of jokes aren't too uncommon, sadly that is one of the drawbacks of the society we live in.
I mean if he had not killed himself, I'm sure a lot of people(and I won't rule myself out) would have a laugh if the video was broadcasted(assuming the roommate had tried to humiliate him in the video rather than just showing 2 guys going at it). Like the saying goes, "It's all fun and games until somebody gets hurt". This makes it a lot harder for me to try make the roommate be 'the bad guy'. Insensitive and a douche perhaps, but without these kind of consequences it'd be a rather accepted behavior.

And about suicide in general. I personally think a person should have full rights to do whatever they do with their life aslong as it doesn't break others people rights, this includes ending their own live. Society should ofcourse not recommend it and it should never be a light decision, but it should still be your decision to decide you want to get over your issues and look forward on what lies ahead.
This is without considering momentary 'insanity' which you might be able to snap out of the train of thought with a good night sleep or w/e.(main point being, people shouldn't get locked up and made try to 'get well' if they have deep desire to kill themselves).

People have said that it's selfish to commit suicide, I say like I think travis said earlier in the thread, 'so what?' I mean you can argue almost anything you do is being selfish, fx. being overweight is selfish, since you could've given the food to the homeless.
Masamune
Profile Joined January 2007
Canada3401 Posts
October 02 2010 02:32 GMT
#263
good post zarahtra and nice english I agree though, anything could be seen as selfish; us posting on these forums is selfish when our time could be spent at a soup kitchen.

HardcoreBilly
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States222 Posts
October 02 2010 02:54 GMT
#264
Can us all TL users compromise and at least agree the roommate was a complete asshat and no one deserves that type of humiliation? Amen?
Deadlyhazard
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1177 Posts
October 02 2010 02:56 GMT
#265
On October 02 2010 11:32 Masamune wrote:
good post zarahtra and nice english I agree though, anything could be seen as selfish; us posting on these forums is selfish when our time could be spent at a soup kitchen.


Precisely. We must all be selfish for survival. This goes for everyone.
Hark!
Kanil
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1713 Posts
October 02 2010 06:17 GMT
#266
I find this basically a non-issue.

Many of us have secrets that, if revealed in properly, could certainly cause us to commit suicide. Just because this gentleman's particular secret was his homosexuality doesn't make this especially noteworthy to me.

Sad? Certainly. But not news.
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SeaweedToss
Profile Joined September 2010
17 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-02 06:48:55
October 02 2010 06:43 GMT
#267
On October 02 2010 15:17 Kanil wrote:
I find this basically a non-issue.

Many of us have secrets that, if revealed in properly, could certainly cause us to commit suicide. Just because this gentleman's particular secret was his homosexuality doesn't make this especially noteworthy to me.

Sad? Certainly. But not news.


Ummm I understand that the young gay man must have felt terrible and may he RIP. I also hope the person that was involved with the posting of it online is punished for what he did, but I dont think everybodys first reaction to secrects being revealed is to commit suicide. Maybe its your first reaction and a select few, but i think the majority of people are not obsessed with what other people think about them. For the most part there is always something better than death. This young man was not living with a painful illness, he did not lose all his limbs in a war, he was gay! I'm sure it had a greater impact on him since he is younger and during those years people tend to care more about what their peers think. But again there is usually always something better than death.
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
October 02 2010 07:13 GMT
#268
On October 02 2010 06:41 Jacobs Ladder wrote:
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On October 02 2010 06:13 cr4ckshot wrote:
On October 02 2010 04:20 NukeTheBunnys wrote:
On October 02 2010 03:34 cr4ckshot wrote:
If this was an issue of privacy over a heterosexual, this wouldn't even be a news story. Sad but true.


If it had been a heterosexual person then they would still be alive. If the kid hadn't killed him self it wouldn't be a news story either.

On a related note, I didn't realize that such a large portion of TL was homophobic bigots. I only hope you find some way to break out of the hate.


Whoa...how was my comment homophobic to any degree? Honestly, your sexual orientation is your business.

I don't think he was calling you out, but rather the community as a whole. He's right, though, its pathetic how many people here are homophobes. I just don't get it, I don't give a fuck what ANYONES orientation is. You can be having a 3 way with hermaphroditic midgets for all I care, it doesn't effect me.

As for the person who said "suicide should be mocked", you're wrong. You're also an idiot. I hate to break into ad hominems but I feel you earned it in this case. Mocking suicide will make it so much worse. If someone is considering suicide, it is (in their mind) a rational decision. It seems like the most efficient way to end the pain. They're miserable and likely already feel terrible that they are considering it. Saying that anyone who commits suicide is a coward, or weak, or anything like that will only exacerbate a suicidal teens feeling of worthlessness, ostracisation, or pain.

The way I see it, the only way anyone could make those comments is if they've never been anywhere near depressed in their entire life.

Or haven't admitted it.

I'm a bit disappointed with this thread as well. I echo most of your post, but I think the fact that he was gay is important as NukeTheBunnies is right. Sweeping the issue of sexuality under the rug is part of what creates the problem in the first place.
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Ganondorf
Profile Joined April 2010
Italy600 Posts
October 02 2010 08:58 GMT
#269
I imagine the surprise he wanted to see some hot chick in the video and saw instead 2 gay men having sex. That must have disappointed him, but i'm sure he didn't have his roomate's suicide in mind, wasn't even planned, what can i say, bad luck for the gay, of course suicide is an excessive reaction, considering also my opinion on the gay category not existing and being an invention of the church.

Just consider how the ancients (ie before the church was formed) considered same sex relationships, maybe slightly immoral but nothing to worry about. They used to say that Iulius Ceasar was the man of all women and the woman of all men. I don't think he was gay or bisex or straight, no category, he just did what he wanted and nobody worried too much about it.
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