EPTDon't mind me though, I'm just a person who hates anyone fighting for their country. I couldn't care less for any one soldier boy on the planet.
US Army: Soldiers killed Afghans for sport - Page 7
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Chaosvuistje
Netherlands2581 Posts
Don't mind me though, I'm just a person who hates anyone fighting for their country. I couldn't care less for any one soldier boy on the planet. | ||
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Geo4FuN
Greece2 Posts
I don’t care if they are only 3 out of 100.000 if it was your country would say shit happens at war or all American troops are not like that? Yes that is shocking | ||
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snpnx
Germany454 Posts
Every sentence that is not lifelong imprisonment or death is too low and shows that the government in the US is a hypocritical one. So let's hope those guys get the sentences they deserve. @the people arguing about the respect for the US army: While the anger and hate of those hating on most or all US soldiers is on the wrong way (it should be against US government really), it is understandable since you mostly hear the bad stuff those soldiers do. The hate against the government will just come when it decides to let those guys go off again without a serious penalty. | ||
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piroko139
United States261 Posts
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Velr
Switzerland10966 Posts
Now you know how it feels. | ||
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piroko139
United States261 Posts
You claim that this is similar to the people that facepalm over others joining the military without having to. I fail to see the connection of the topic, please elaborate. | ||
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warrior6
Canada18 Posts
On September 28 2010 10:00 motbob wrote: It's going fine, thank you. We've achieved stability in Iraq and we think we can do the same in Afghanistan. they are 2 completely different situations. the insurgents in iraq were bribed to and concessions were made to give the sunnis more power and autonomy with the iraqi government. the militias are all still active and loyal to their tribal leaders and will rise again within a moments notice if need be, the people who committed some of the worst sectarian crimes such as the badr brigade that wiped out entire sunni communities are still active within the government, the mahdi army and muqtada al sadr have not been disarmed. violence has been quelled for now but the situation is not stable at all as all the right ingredients are there to reignite the conflict. this is in addition to regular bombings that kill scores of civilians quite often. afghanistan is a whole different ball game. the taliban are based in pakistan and the pakistani army is not capable of disarming them. everytime the pakistani goes to take action against the taliban in their northwest frontier province close to the border with afghanistan, they end up taking losses, killing and displacing scores of civilians while the taliban reappear as soon as they leave. the bases and madrassas (religious schools) that support the taliban are all still active along with training camps. any military action against the taliban would have to involve attacking their logistical and power structure in pakistan and that is a whole new nightmare. | ||
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Astraios
12 Posts
I hate the US. I hate everything having to do with the Stars and Stripes. Fuck this man, I'm going to China, they are so much better there. They sing about flowers and little bunnies all day long. I can't wait until the Chinese take over the world, then we can all live in peace and harmony. Oh, sorry. Just jumping on the bandwagon. Shit like this happens everyday, everywhere throughout the world. Lets stop blaming certain "countries", and start hating on the human race in general. | ||
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Ympulse
United States287 Posts
On September 28 2010 15:37 5unrise wrote: I find it quite despicable how so many Americans in this thread are trying to defend the US military in spite of what happened, and to brush aside all criticism at US personnel. Just pathetic really. North Korea Best Korea. See, I can do it too! OT: I personally see this as a sad example of a lack of discipline in the middle-echelon of the chain of command, something that's been plaguing the US Army for quite some time now. And also at the disgusting spinelesness of those under the SSGT. Also, don't hate the US military for being forced to be somewhere. Hate the power-mongering ignorants we have running the country. | ||
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N3rV[Green]
United States1935 Posts
HUMANS are evil little bastards and smoking opium everyday coming from being a good kid in the states will mess up your brain pretty good. I mean look through history, Christians have committed some of the greatest crimes against humanity in the name of GOD, but most people dont think of them as evil, even though all religious people are evil and ignorant...but thats another topic. This one, although sad yes, is everyday occurrences around the globe. Like Africa, that place is straight fucked, be glad you're not there and a few dumbass soldiers is all you need worry about for now. | ||
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enzym
Germany1034 Posts
On September 29 2010 03:34 N3rV[Green] wrote: Seriously though, this is not a US only thing. This is a HUMAN thing. HUMANS are evil little bastards and smoking opium everyday coming from being a good kid in the states will mess up your brain pretty good. I mean look through history, Christians have committed some of the greatest crimes against humanity in the name of GOD, but most people dont think of them as evil, even though all religious people are evil and ignorant...but thats another topic. This one, although sad yes, is everyday occurrences around the globe. Like Africa, that place is straight fucked, be glad you're not there and a few dumbass soldiers is all you need worry about for now. yeah, its a human problem. but in this case these humans are under responsibility and jurisdiction of the united states. people wouldnt hate so much if the people managing this whole thing would be honest, stop letting it happen over and over and over again, stop trying to sweep it under the rug, play it down or even try to justify or endorse it (after the torture thing i have absolutely no idea what kind of vile practices the us military might be employing to achieve some goal and i certainly dont trust them to be nice easily). you will always have some bad sheep, but they are only bad sheep if you do your absolute best to weed them out and restore/realign your image with your original goal. we simply dont see the u.s. doing that, thats why we are very unhappy. | ||
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overt
United States9006 Posts
If they were implying that smoking weed was somehow involved in the killings then I'd only have to ask if the anchors at CNN have ever met a pothead. Least violent people I've ever met. | ||
KwarK
United States44374 Posts
On September 28 2010 09:45 sikyon wrote: Do you think the military is made up of people in the top 10% of their class in high school or the bottom 10%? People are not nice. The world is not a nice place. Worse shit than this happens everywhere in the world. That doesn't make it excusable, but it happens. I am willing to tolerate, to a certain extent, a violation of my morals to ensure that I can keep on living my comfortable life. Does valuing myself, my family, and my friends, and my countrymen over strangers make me a bad person? Possibly, but it doesn't bother me much as long as I just compartmentalize it. This. Some people are stupid and do stupid things when put in groups of others who are also stupid. War is a high stress environment that desensitises people to violence. The combination is an atrocity waiting to happen. The reason we have officers who are intelligent is to try and prevent this kinda shit. Imo this is a failure of the leadership rather than of the soldiers. | ||
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Ordained
United States779 Posts
On September 28 2010 09:37 Tazza wrote: Just sick, absolutey despicable. Who's the terrorists now? Killing thousands? Killing a few? The terrorists are the same people as before. | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32159 Posts
On September 28 2010 09:42 Diuqil wrote: When you hear of so many story's like these, you think I'm going to like them? You know, these arabs rammed a few planes into these tall buildings into the US once, and now I kind of hate them all. Same dumb logic, different topic. | ||
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Whiladan
United States463 Posts
On September 29 2010 03:59 KwarK wrote: This. Some people are stupid and do stupid things when put in groups of others who are also stupid. War is a high stress environment that desensitises people to violence. The combination is an atrocity waiting to happen. The reason we have officers who are intelligent is to try and prevent this kinda shit. Imo this is a failure of the leadership rather than of the soldiers. Officers have so little to do with the lower enlisted/junior NCOs under their command. True responsibility of the soldiers falls to three key people: The squad leader (normally E-5 - E-6), the platoon Sergeant (E-6+), and the First Sergeant. Show me a successful officer and I will show you the hard-working NCOs who make him look good. | ||
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infecteddna
Slovenia243 Posts
Some were sadistic degenerates who joined to fulfill their evil desires without repercussion. For some of them, their service provided sufficient outlet; others went above and beyond the call of duty. These few were the cause of terrible tragedies, where the truly innocent were murdered. But there were also those who joined not because of need or malice, but purely out of personal conviction. They knew their faith made them better than most in the service, and they held but utter contempt for the corrupt few who abused their authority to satiate their dark hunger with the blood of innocents. They kept the divine purpose of the mission always shining brightly in their hearts, especially when they mercifully brought the torch to yet another pyre of sinners, knowing they are saving their immortal souls from eternal torment in the abyss. | ||
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danl9rm
United States3111 Posts
On September 28 2010 14:26 Therapy wrote: They're the reason we don't have to worry about that stuff? Really? I'm pretty sure its our presence in the middle east that provokes attacks not the other way around... Who said anything about our presence in the middle east? Way to read. On September 28 2010 14:30 enzym wrote: there is no proof at all that the activities of the united states military in the middle east have improved your national security. in fact it could be argued that they made the threats worse, also by acts described in the op, as it certainly hasnt made you very popular internationally. that aside war is no excuse for things like that to happen, and there should never be any. you have the duty to respect other peoples rights especially in war because war is something that enables a lot more harm to be done. you are even more obliged to not lose sight of your moral highground if that war is fought in the name of freedom and liberty and the rights of people. e: typo Who claimed that there was? Way to read. | ||
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Hakker
United States1360 Posts
On September 28 2010 09:30 seppolevne wrote: There was something in the paper about this about a week ago, the soldiers would drop/give/place AK47s on civilians and kill them in "self-defense". That's just sickening. Jesus christ. | ||
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Whiladan
United States463 Posts
On September 29 2010 05:13 infecteddna wrote: Most of them joined because they saw no other option and needed what little monetary compensation would be provided, and mostly stayed for the feeling of power; being untouchable wolves among sheep. These did not care for what took place and what did not, and they almost unanimously loathed and despised the common folk for being weak and wretched. At official notice, most would not hesitate to dispatch of every single one, what many among them overtly jested would be the prudent course of action anyway. But they were largely followers, believing to be there due to circumstances outside their control, and thus not overly motivated except in matters pertaining to them keeping or improving their position in the general hierarchy. Some were sadistic degenerates who joined to fulfill their evil desires without repercussion. For some of them, their service provided sufficient outlet; others went above and beyond the call of duty. These few were the cause of terrible tragedies, where the truly innocent were murdered. But there were also those who joined not because of need or malice, but purely out of personal conviction. They knew their faith made them better than most in the service, and they held but utter contempt for the corrupt few who abused their authority to satiate their dark hunger with the blood of innocents. They kept the divine purpose of the mission always shining brightly in their hearts, especially when they mercifully brought the torch to yet another pyre of sinners, knowing they are saving their immortal souls from eternal torment in the abyss. This guy can't be for real. | ||
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