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MURICA15980 Posts
On September 25 2010 12:36 AJMcSpiffy wrote:
I like being part of a forum that is more on the stricter side of moderating. The only part I dislike about it is how daunting it can be to start a new topic :s Sometimes I feel like in order to start a new topic or discussion I need to take the time out to write a whole dissertation on it before making my first post lol. Eventually I'll find something worth making my own topic about I'm sure.
And trust me, this is a good thing.
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intrigue
Washington, D.C9935 Posts
quite a few of these threads popping up recently, huh? we must be doing something right! this is how i see moderation here:
On September 19 2010 12:46 intrigue wrote:
new posters are like puppies, like yeah they can be really cute and nice but if they aren't house trained they'll still shit all over the floor. now imagine a room full of nerdy puppies excited over the release of a popular pc game's sequel, spewing their wastes and dirtying their paws and spreading it everywhere, just everywhere like on the walls and windows and on your shirt and face. once it starts, there's no cleaning it up. that's why we are pretty strict with our rules - ultimately the only thing you need to do to not get banned is to be able to control your e-bowels.
this analogy is apt for the poster population as a whole, because older dogs are also quite prone to losing control of their various sphincters. but when a dog you really love makes a doo-doo, it's more like "aww you poor doggie you".
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On September 25 2010 12:33 micronesia wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2010 12:10 SoLaR[i.C] wrote:On September 25 2010 11:26 IntoTheWow wrote:On September 25 2010 11:09 Ricjames wrote:On September 25 2010 07:55 JWD wrote:On September 25 2010 07:50 Ricjames wrote:
nor was offensive in any way oh? On September 12 2010 05:41 Ricjames wrote:
I was 15 and we were having LAN session. Someone shouted: hey what the fuck, plane hit some skyscraper in New york. So we went to watch the TV. Half of us were laughing like crazy, cause it seemed ridiculously funny at that age. Actually it would be funny now too. JWD i don't want to argue or go into it again. Only thing i want to say is that i meant it seems funny to me if a damn airplane hits skyscraper, the outcome however is not funny at all of course...Death of innocent people is not funny and i would never say that. Still.. even if i would, i don't think it deserves ban - you could say what a fucking psycho, i would never stay anywhere close to this person, cause i would be afraid he wants to torture me to death with his dull home-made knife...and not comment it at all and certainly not ban the poor psycho for having different taste than you have. If i remember correctly the thread asked about what were people doing, how do they remember the day and what is their feeling and you can't ban someone for expressing his feeling...i think Stop for a second and think about the people who lost a loved relative/friend there and how they would feel about reading your comment. On September 25 2010 11:28 micronesia wrote:
Agree with Intothewow. I actually was in a situation where I was with people like you (Ricjames) during the wtc attacks. If they came to tl I wouldn't ban them but if the reminisced about it and seemed like they were cool with it after the fact in a sensitive thread then I would. Tact please. Keep in mind that if you enforce rules like this, then abiding by the same logic, you mustn't allow people to say "raped" - even in the oh so popular gaming sense. To quote IntoTheWow, "Stop and think about people to whom it may have actually happened." I don't agree with you. Not everything that could possibly be insensitive to somebody should be lumped together and dealt with the same way. But to continue your example... the analogous situation wouldn't be someone using the word rape.... it would be someone laughing at how funny it is to knowingly use the word rape which is much worse in the eyes of a rape victim, I believe. Show nested quote +On September 25 2010 12:11 blitzkrieger wrote:
I've gotten banned for opinions before too where someone else right before me posted the same thing and didn't get banned. Its pretty arbitrary and inconsistent how they punish along with varied severity of punishment which really undermines any sort of authority or respect. There should be consistent reasons and an explanation on bans rather than roll of dice, mod disagree's with you, etc. Evidence or it didn't happen. Occasionally something like that does and will happen when you have thousands of posts every day, many of them terrible. If a wrong is made, then with evidence it can hopefully be corrected. Imagine if you were a mod and you read hundreds of cases of people claiming they were punished unfairly without providing any evidence.... kinda pointless. Show nested quote +On September 25 2010 12:26 Ricjames wrote:On September 25 2010 11:26 IntoTheWow wrote:On September 25 2010 11:09 Ricjames wrote:On September 25 2010 07:55 JWD wrote:On September 25 2010 07:50 Ricjames wrote:
nor was offensive in any way oh? On September 12 2010 05:41 Ricjames wrote:
I was 15 and we were having LAN session. Someone shouted: hey what the fuck, plane hit some skyscraper in New york. So we went to watch the TV. Half of us were laughing like crazy, cause it seemed ridiculously funny at that age. Actually it would be funny now too. JWD i don't want to argue or go into it again. Only thing i want to say is that i meant it seems funny to me if a damn airplane hits skyscraper, the outcome however is not funny at all of course...Death of innocent people is not funny and i would never say that. Still.. even if i would, i don't think it deserves ban - you could say what a fucking psycho, i would never stay anywhere close to this person, cause i would be afraid he wants to torture me to death with his dull home-made knife...and not comment it at all and certainly not ban the poor psycho for having different taste than you have. If i remember correctly the thread asked about what were people doing, how do they remember the day and what is their feeling and you can't ban someone for expressing his feeling...i think Stop for a second and think about the people who lost a loved relative/friend there and how they would feel about reading your comment. Guys i am not gonna continue to discuss this topic as i don't want to get to any horrible situation. My first post in this thread had the line: "i shouldn't have posted what i did" in it. JWD should quote the whole post, beacuse people who don't read the whole thread might lose the context. I posted in the original thread, because i wanted to show something (the quote is not full again). I am very sorry for the victims, however i am not sorry for the incident/situation. It is hard to explain and connected to more things. You might hate me for it, but still can't just simply get rid of me. So I stand behind that you can't just ban someone if his opinion hurts your feelings, that is not how the world and freedom of speech work. That is how nazis and communists work. If the thread was called condolence to the victims - i would not post what i did there. edit: Solar made a good point too.. Nah I appreciate where you are coming from and I don't think we'll have this type of issue again so cool. But we definitely don't ban people because they simply hurt our feelings... or if that ever happens it is a mistake that we try to fix.
Finally someone who understands, thank you. As i said i appreciate TL team for what you are doing and keep up the good work.
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Um, I like it the way it is. I love the mods for doing their job. Keeping TL shit free just makes me love it more. 
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
On September 25 2010 12:48 intrigue wrote:quite a few of these threads popping up recently, huh? we must be doing something right! this is how i see moderation here: Show nested quote +On September 19 2010 12:46 intrigue wrote:
new posters are like puppies, like yeah they can be really cute and nice but if they aren't house trained they'll still shit all over the floor. now imagine a room full of nerdy puppies excited over the release of a popular pc game's sequel, spewing their wastes and dirtying their paws and spreading it everywhere, just everywhere like on the walls and windows and on your shirt and face. once it starts, there's no cleaning it up. that's why we are pretty strict with our rules - ultimately the only thing you need to do to not get banned is to be able to control your e-bowels.
this analogy is apt for the poster population as a whole, because older dogs are also quite prone to losing control of their various sphincters. but when a dog you really love makes a doo-doo, it's more like "aww you poor doggie you". you are so adorable intrigue :3
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thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
If anything the site's policies are super lenient now.
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With a site this huge, there is NO other way to do things without the whole site going to shit. I love the way TL moderates. Keep it up, guys!
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On September 25 2010 13:19 thedeadhaji wrote:
If anything the site's policies are super lenient now.
Want to come back as an SC2 mod?
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Canada9720 Posts
On September 25 2010 14:03 SonuvBob wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2010 13:19 thedeadhaji wrote:
If anything the site's policies are super lenient now. Want to come back as an SC2 mod?
haji's op imo
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On September 25 2010 14:03 SonuvBob wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2010 13:19 thedeadhaji wrote:
If anything the site's policies are super lenient now. Want to come back as an SC2 mod?
i would support this. i would support making rekrul sc2 mod.
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rekrul and haji for mods!
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I like my trolls banner and I see no reason for change. I think the TL admins do a great job even if they might slip up every now and then. Trying to Admin all of TL must be a nightmare.
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Since this discussion has exploded at a non-normal rate, would someone be able to make a poll on this topic and put it in the OP, to settle it pretty much? (I assume the results would be overwhelmingly one-sided, but it would be interesting to see actually what %'s each opinion picks up)
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TL i the best forum around, I wouldn't change anything. As long as your not an ass, you don't have to worry about being banned/warned, their rules are not that strict.
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On September 25 2010 14:20 Ichabod wrote:
Since this discussion has exploded at a non-normal rate, would someone be able to make a poll on this topic and put it in the OP, to settle it pretty much? (I assume the results would be overwhelmingly one-sided, but it would be interesting to see actually what %'s each opinion picks up)
Not that I'm against this idea or anything, but why would the poll matter?
The mods have already stated it's not a democracy, therefore they wouldn't care either way, lol.
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well you do understand why right? i mean, you needlessly insulted a LOT of people. and nobody's forcing you to watch sc2 games -_-
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United States11393 Posts
On September 25 2010 14:15 Whole wrote:
rekrul and haji for mods!
Not idra????
I expected better from the #1 fan. 
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TL moderation is best on the internet that I have seen, I hope it continues and is extremely strict with new posters and poorly thought out posts (even from veterans).
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It's typical that the same people who tend to receive warnings are those who won't understand why they were warned once it happens.
Ah patience, it truly is a virtue.
EDIT: And for those who keep making comparisons to 4chan whether positive or negative, consider that the moderation (especially by moot) can vary from draconian to completely random. /tg/ is a good example of late, with a moderator finally having paid some attention to it and as a result dispensing mass bannings and enforcing a zero-tolerance policy on NSFW images and meta-threads.
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