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United States12607 Posts
On September 25 2010 08:08 Lightningbullet wrote:
well, some people get bans or warnings that they don't deserve. Like, I got temp banned for 2 days by saying "fail" to an SKT fan who complained about the Kwanro team transfer.:O
How can you think that you were banned for that one post? First you were issued this warning:
Please put some effort into your posts. One word replies and other low content posts are not appreciated here.
And then I gave this explanation for your ban:
You were warned to improve your posting, yet you continue to spew crap one-liners all over the forums. Post less or better please.
...the level of denial here is shocking. Didn't you read these explanations?
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I agree that many posts are not ban worthy/warning worthy.
I understand it is their forum...but when you restrict a forum so much on what you can say...its not so much a forum anymore.
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is awesome32277 Posts
On September 25 2010 08:13 Khaymus wrote:
I agree that many posts are not ban worthy/warning worthy.
I understand it is their forum...but when you restrict a forum so much on what you can say...its not so much a forum anymore.
shit posts restrict on what others can read.
Sometimes I open a thread (usually in the sc2 forum) and see 16 pages. Of course the first thing I think is "Oh wonderful, lots of important discussion on X subject!".
Then waste 30 minutes of my life reading 16 pages of flaming, useless one posters, arguing, whining, etc.
You shouldn't be asking yourself "Can I get away with posting this?", you should be asking yourself "Does my post contribute anything interesting to the discussion?".
And I mean, this is coming from me, I'm not exactly the harshest of mods..
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On September 25 2010 08:13 Khaymus wrote:
I agree that many posts are not ban worthy/warning worthy.
I understand it is their forum...but when you restrict a forum so much on what you can say...its not so much a forum anymore.
I don't understand. Are you not allowed to voice your opinion or participate in discussion anymore?
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That's actually the first time I saw that and they posted it around a year ago? ._.
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Honestly, if you think TL is strict, try posting on EJ (Elitist Jerks - a WOW guild and discussion site). If your post does not actively contribute to the discussion and have original insight, then they will delete your post and give you a warning. I don't think TL is strict. The level of strictness they apply is good for the forums. It makes it a much more worthwhile place for discussions than other places. For example: personally, I'm not a huge fan of Idra, but I thought that troll was being a complete douche. I don't disagree with their temp ban there. I don't post on official Blizzard forums because they're too lax about trolling and flaming. If you post any kind of "newb question" you'll just get flamed and trolled endlessly because people are bored and like to be douches.
Edit: grammar.
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You gotta take into account people who are banned may have had a previous record of shitty posting. Just throwing this out there, sure it's been posted already.
Plus, TL is actually a lot less strict than you may believe. In other forums, getting banned = insta post nuke, or simply disagreeing with a mod can get you banned. Then there's the forums that are too lenient and turn into one-liner flame heaven.
TL mods are a good mix of strictness and leniency, if you ask me.
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There's more than 1 mod then you're gonna get different results to same exact post. And even the same individual, as long as he's not a robot is gonna do things differently from time to time.
Unless someone is gonna write a guideline on how to deal with every single situation as a mod... expect some individual decisionmaking that's gonna seem inconsistent.
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Wait, what's the requirement for report function :o
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On September 25 2010 08:18 Lovedrop wrote:
Wait, what's the requirement for report function :o
I think it's a time requirement of 1.5 years at the site for that account. You don't really need a report function to actually report bad posters, just pm a mod with a detailed explanation and a link to the horrible post. Report function just streamlines that.
On September 25 2010 08:00 JWD wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2010 07:57 SweeTLemonS[TPR] wrote:
You guys do know that there is a report feature, right? Sometimes posts get overlooked. If you use it properly, state the reason, and maybe cite that someone else was banned for the same thing, they'll not treat people differently. Oftentimes I think it's just that something was overlooked. This is a good point. If you are a new user and do not have access to the report feature, you can feel free to PM a mod if you see a post that is obviously unacceptable.
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Imagine TL is like a mafia. If you're rude to the mafia, you get whacked. If you're part of the mafia, you can give people shit.
Sometimes you can get this illusion that TL staff isn't just a bunch of normal guys. This site looks so professional, I can't blame you. But it is, and its governed by all the social rules—fair and unfair—that you experience in the rest of your life. The only reason this place is anything is because the admins are really nice, hard working guys. 1 in a million. The rest of the staff? They're people with free time. Good apples, bad apples, this sites too big to be picky.
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Im kinda of scared to reply to this as i don't wanna get banned again cuz it really sucks ^ ^ so I love TL plz don't ban me again.
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If you don't like TL don't come here!
Remember one of their rules: "This is our home and you are our guest". If you are feeling that somehow you don't belong here just search for another Starcraft Forum.
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On September 25 2010 02:45 Hyde wrote:
In time you'll come to love the strict moderation on TL. Trust me, this place is awesome for a reason.
My first 50 posts I was scared stiff. Now I'm glad people are scared stiff 
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He wasn't banned for saying Idra isn't god, he was banned for QQ'ing about Zergs who QQ, and not bringing anything constructive to the post. I think that much should be obvious.
As for TL being strict: good. I like constructive forums without much trolling.
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United States5162 Posts
If someone like me, that is a person who regularly gets told that they talk down to people and are pretty dickish in general, can make it 500 posts and only have one warning, then I'd say the mods aren't nearly as strict as some think.
Make a valid point without insulting someone and you have nothing to be worried about.
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Kennigit
Canada19447 Posts
the goons sc2 board has a thread dedicated to whats wrong with TL's "lax" ban standards. We are not too strict rofl
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On September 25 2010 08:20 semantics wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2010 08:18 Lovedrop wrote:
Wait, what's the requirement for report function :o I think it's a time requirement of 1.5 years at the site for that account. You don't really need a report function to actually report bad posters, just pm a mod with a detailed explanation and a link to the horrible post. Report function just streamlines that. Show nested quote +On September 25 2010 08:00 JWD wrote:On September 25 2010 07:57 SweeTLemonS[TPR] wrote:
You guys do know that there is a report feature, right? Sometimes posts get overlooked. If you use it properly, state the reason, and maybe cite that someone else was banned for the same thing, they'll not treat people differently. Oftentimes I think it's just that something was overlooked. This is a good point. If you are a new user and do not have access to the report feature, you can feel free to PM a mod if you see a post that is obviously unacceptable.
Man that report option is so convenient though. I'm hoping it gets me a mod bid some day. : D jk
On September 25 2010 08:22 drekk wrote:
Im kinda of scared to reply to this as i don't wanna get banned again cuz it really sucks ^ ^ so I love TL plz don't ban me again.
I'd temp ban for two days to fuck with you for that. Those are just really annoying posts. Seriously, like so many people have said think "does this post contribute?" Also think, "Am I going to annoy people with this, in a bad, and non-funny way?" i.e. when you're trying to be funny think "If someone else posted this, would I lol?" If the answer is No, yes, no in that order, don't post. It's a very simple process.
I have a lot of posts here (not compared to some), but I've hit the back button on more that I can count, sometimes long posts, that I reread and said "holy shit, that's a stupid post." I'm not even amongst the best posters on this site, but if people applied that to themselves, then they wouldn't have to worry about bans, and mods wouldn't have to moderate as much.
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I came here specifically because of the strictness. I need somewhere to actually discuss things intellectually whenever I need to take my troll pants off.
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On September 25 2010 08:30 Kennigit wrote:
the goons sc2 board has a thread dedicated to whats wrong with TL's "lax" ban standards. We are not too strict rofl
If its any comfort Kennigit I used to think you guys were real $@%'s. I think good moderating treads a very fine line between too restrictive and too lenient but I think you guys do a great job.
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