EPTthough, if you can make revolution into a mathematical model of some kind, i'm sure that'd be cool with political science too.
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
though, if you can make revolution into a mathematical model of some kind, i'm sure that'd be cool with political science too. | ||
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gedatsu
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On September 09 2013 00:13 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: I'd put philosophy next to math, as logic is the cousin of both. But while physics certainly has some abstract elements to it, I don't think it'd ever be as "pure" as just mathematics. ::shrugs:: And I'd put philosophy to the fast left because it is not a science, it is a bunch of opinions. It particularly enjoys laying claim to logic as a subfield, and that is a big pile of bs. | ||
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sam!zdat
United States5559 Posts
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MoltkeWarding
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Badfatpanda
United States9719 Posts
On September 09 2013 02:41 MoltkeWarding wrote: Except phobosophy, which I am tempted to make my personal philosophy. That's sophistry! We'll I guess I'll see what I'm getting myself into next year for myself but it was an interesting necro, I had completely forgotten about this post. | ||
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dmnum
Brazil6910 Posts
every field likes to claim it's pure and free from the subjectivity that makes other fields 'less scientific' but when there's nowhere to go everyone turns to philosophy for a solution | ||
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farvacola
United States18870 Posts
On September 09 2013 02:34 gedatsu wrote: And I'd put philosophy to the fast left because it is not a science, it is a bunch of opinions. It particularly enjoys laying claim to logic as a subfield, and that is a big pile of bs. Only if you don't understand how to read it or consider it alongside other modes of investigation. It's probably not your fault though, many have very little chance when it comes to getting a good education in this regard. | ||
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sam!zdat
United States5559 Posts
On September 09 2013 02:41 MoltkeWarding wrote: Except phobosophy, which I am tempted to make my personal philosophy. philosophy is the species which is its own genus. Or something. That's a bit of hegel I haven't figured out yet | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
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Abominous
Croatia1625 Posts
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
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Roe
Canada6002 Posts
On September 09 2013 00:42 MoltkeWarding wrote: I hope you realise the joke here, is that there is no such thing as purity of thought. Purity does not exist in the comparative, but is the immutable truth of an absolute extreme in nature, it is the absence of mixed or opposing states. In the Platonic-Socratic tradition, Purity lies beyond the state of mortal knowledge, and is reserved for the gods. Each branch of the sciences regards itself as the pure vehicle of intellectual inquiry, and estimates the legitimacy of the others by that relation. I just realized I overlooked the word "purity" and assumed it was just a derivative relationship | ||
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Abominous
Croatia1625 Posts
On September 09 2013 03:39 oneofthem wrote: maybe, but surely not exploring the philosophy you already believe sucks even more. I'm familiar with philosophy and it sucks, it's a hobby! | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
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Recognizable
Netherlands1552 Posts
On September 09 2013 03:49 Abominous wrote: I'm familiar with philosophy and it sucks, it's a hobby! You don't know what philosophy entails. | ||
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Abominous
Croatia1625 Posts
On September 09 2013 04:07 Recognizable wrote: You don't know what philosophy entails. But I do. | ||
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Abominous
Croatia1625 Posts
On September 09 2013 04:03 oneofthem wrote: hobby does not say much. could say that about alchemy or archaeology. it does matter whether you do it well though Exactly, and many other disciplines. | ||
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mozoku
United States708 Posts
On September 09 2013 02:47 farvacola wrote: Only if you don't understand how to read it or consider it alongside other modes of investigation. It's probably not your fault though, many have very little chance when it comes to getting a good education in this regard. Not sure if you're referring to his second statement, but he's got that part correct. Logic cannot be a subfield of philosophy because all of philosophy is derived from logic. Without logic, there is no philosophy. Furthermore, you can have logic problems with no philosophical meaning, which combined with my previous statement implies that philosophy is a subfield of logic. Not the other way around. Which means that mathematics is not a subfield of philosophy merely because it relies on logic. They'd be "siblings" on the hierarchy. Both subjects employ logic with less layers of abstraction than the rest of the sciences/fields, but they study different areas. His first statement is pretty much troll bait though. | ||
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
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sam!zdat
United States5559 Posts
not even all of what anglos call 'philosophy' is derived from logic, let alone all of philosophy. How ludicrous | ||
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