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STIMEY d okgm fish
Profile Joined August 2003
Canada6140 Posts
June 27 2004 20:40 GMT
#121
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x[ReaPeR]x
Profile Joined February 2003
United States3447 Posts
June 27 2004 22:15 GMT
#122
On June 28 2004 04:12 JudasT wrote:
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On June 28 2004 03:48 x[ReaPeR]x wrote:
On June 28 2004 03:29 JudasT wrote:
Thanks to Fahrenheit 9/11, some USA citizens will change their vote intention and they'll help to kick the Bush's ass in the next elections... the rest of the world will rest in peace for a while without the hitlerian idiot !


It's funny because they are thinking of ending advertising for the movie based on the bullshit McCain-Fiengold. I think the law is total bullshit, but if it's gonna be there than as long as Bush can't run ads Moore shouldn't be able to advertise his movie (note, don't give me any bullshit about pro Bush movies, I don't do the double standard, so don't ask).

Bush is not Hitlertarian, nor is he an idiot. And Bush not being re-elected makes the world less safe.


Sorry, I think he deserves the qualification of idiot for all the things he've said and done. And the world will be safer bc the simple theory of "LESS WAR = SAFER".

Why the world rescuer is not going to Somalia where millions of people are dying ?, or why he don't help to solve the palestinan/Israel situation ? it should be easy to a man who decides to invade countries... I hope he puts his ass out of the white house in the next elections, and it doesn't matter the name of the new president bc he'll be better for the human being.

The book is Farenheit 451 (200 pages, read it !), ... a world where culture and human rights dissapear bc all the books get burned by a hitlerian dictator like Bush...


More terrorists = world less safe. Current US Mission = stop terrorism.

We tried to help in Somalia and it didn't go well. We tried that, but even with Bill Clinton, our most pro-palestinian president ever, the Palestinians would accept the amazingly generous offer presented to them. We could invade other countries, but our resources are too streched right now and we could only choose one, so why not Iraq, which has tons of symblic value. Kerry will not be better than Bush.

Bush will not destroy culture, stop coming up with stupid bullshit.
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JudasT
Profile Joined January 2003
Spain2226 Posts
June 27 2004 22:19 GMT
#123
USA was very happy with Saddam few years ago, and helped him to get the power. I don't know how some people can understand and defend this way of doing things... it's all about money and gas, nothing else, period.
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Yuljan
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
2196 Posts
June 27 2004 22:20 GMT
#124
Iraq wasnt a terrorist producing country until the US invaded.
More War = more terrorist = world less safe
x[ReaPeR]x
Profile Joined February 2003
United States3447 Posts
June 27 2004 22:22 GMT
#125
On June 28 2004 07:19 JudasT wrote:
USA was very happy with Saddam few years ago, and helped him to get the power. I don't know how some people can understand and defend this way of doing things... it's all about money and gas, nothing else, period.


We helped im get to power when we wanted someone who could fight Iran. I think it was a shitty idea but at the time who knew?

I can defend this way of doing things because it can work, as opposed to doing nothing.

Show me how.
ILoveOOv ownZ everyone!!! ~ Lamer List: Mynock, naventus
x[ReaPeR]x
Profile Joined February 2003
United States3447 Posts
June 27 2004 22:23 GMT
#126
On June 28 2004 07:20 Yuljan wrote:
Iraq wasnt a terrorist producing country until the US invaded.
More War = more terrorist = world less safe


Saddam Hussien.

More War = Less Terrorists = World Less Safe
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Yuljan
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
2196 Posts
June 27 2004 22:28 GMT
#127
Saddam Hussein didnt help terrorist, because they hated him like they hate the saudia arabian government.
JudasT
Profile Joined January 2003
Spain2226 Posts
June 27 2004 22:30 GMT
#128
Why do the US wanted to fight Iran ? think on that... why the US want to control everything ? it's all about money and gas again ... the thing is that nobody can do nothing, but re-electing Bush won't help to smooth things ... oh wait, you can do something: DO NOT VOTE for him
Taking the time to have simple fun everyday is a must for a happy life.
x[ReaPeR]x
Profile Joined February 2003
United States3447 Posts
June 27 2004 22:47 GMT
#129
On June 28 2004 07:28 Yuljan wrote:
Saddam Hussein didnt help terrorist, because they hated him like they hate the saudia arabian government.


You have no clue what you are talking about.
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Yuljan
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
2196 Posts
June 27 2004 22:50 GMT
#130
Then educate me.
x[ReaPeR]x
Profile Joined February 2003
United States3447 Posts
June 27 2004 22:50 GMT
#131
On June 28 2004 07:30 JudasT wrote:
Why do the US wanted to fight Iran ? think on that... why the US want to control everything ? it's all about money and gas again ... the thing is that nobody can do nothing, but re-electing Bush won't help to smooth things ... oh wait, you can do something: DO NOT VOTE for him


At the time the US saw Iran as a greater threat than Saddam.

Evidence of war for oil theory please?

Not voting for Bush isn't smart.
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x[ReaPeR]x
Profile Joined February 2003
United States3447 Posts
June 27 2004 22:56 GMT
#132
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pfff
Profile Joined May 2004
Belgium1352 Posts
June 27 2004 23:15 GMT
#133
umm, really, "al-qaeda" hates saddam for what he did to the iraqi sjiits
It ain’t no sin to be glad you’re alive
SweeTLemonS[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
11739 Posts
June 27 2004 23:18 GMT
#134
On June 27 2004 19:22 pfff wrote:
im completely fed up with threads like this cuz it seems like all the non-progressives are like 10 years older and A LOT better educated and informed then the conservatives, but there was one thing that made me sick.


SICKOFLIFE, you are constantly babbling about how religious you are, but you still support bush.
i mean, what kind of a ridiculous contradiction is that?
really, me, as a religion-hater, understands more about it then you, you are a clueless brainwashed baby.


Yeah... I never said I really liked Bush, but I did say that I hated Kerry. Being that, if I was 18 and voting, I only have two people to choose from, I'd pick Bush over Kerry.

On another note, instead of just saying I somehow contradict myself, please explain how I do so--considering the fact you don't know the first thing about my beliefs (not enough to say I contradict myself).
I'm never gonna know you now \ But I'm gonna love you anyhow.
JudasT
Profile Joined January 2003
Spain2226 Posts
June 27 2004 23:29 GMT
#135
On June 28 2004 07:50 x[ReaPeR]x wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2004 07:30 JudasT wrote:
Why do the US wanted to fight Iran ? think on that... why the US want to control everything ? it's all about money and gas again ... the thing is that nobody can do nothing, but re-electing Bush won't help to smooth things ... oh wait, you can do something: DO NOT VOTE for him


At the time the US saw Iran as a greater threat than Saddam.

Evidence of war for oil theory please?

Not voting for Bush isn't smart.


Evidence of mass weapons in Irak plz ?

US shouldn't try to rule the world, and should keep pointed to it's own threads

Result of the decisions of Bush: DEATH

Why is smart vote for Bush ? do you like violence ?

I'm not trying to convince anybody, this is just my point of view !

GL
Taking the time to have simple fun everyday is a must for a happy life.
TeCh)PsylO
Profile Joined October 2002
United States3552 Posts
June 28 2004 00:02 GMT
#136
On June 28 2004 01:55 x[ReaPeR]x wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2004 23:09 TeCh)PsylO wrote:
A much more reasonable critic of the film:

MSNBC


This one is more damning for Moore than the one Excalibur posted. Nice of you to post it.


What Excal posted is not damaging at all. It is the perfect example of the empty, fluffed up, divisive crap that americans get fead on a regular bases.
People change, then forget to tell each other - Susan Scott
STIMEY d okgm fish
Profile Joined August 2003
Canada6140 Posts
June 28 2004 00:05 GMT
#137
well psylo, i think that msnbc article had a few .. trite valid.. hypotheticals on what moore may have been doing, but honestly.. i think perception goes a long way but what we should worry most about is the real sufferring happening because of guns bombs sickness, those matter more than fucking dollar signs, cant we all just eat some rice and chill the fuck out jesus christ
x[ReaPeR]x
Profile Joined February 2003
United States3447 Posts
June 28 2004 00:06 GMT
#138
On June 28 2004 09:02 TeCh)PsylO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2004 01:55 x[ReaPeR]x wrote:
On June 27 2004 23:09 TeCh)PsylO wrote:
A much more reasonable critic of the film:

MSNBC


This one is more damning for Moore than the one Excalibur posted. Nice of you to post it.


What Excal posted is not damaging at all. It is the perfect example of the empty, fluffed up, divisive crap that americans get fead on a regular bases.


The one Excalibur posted is also pretty true.
ILoveOOv ownZ everyone!!! ~ Lamer List: Mynock, naventus
x[ReaPeR]x
Profile Joined February 2003
United States3447 Posts
June 28 2004 00:09 GMT
#139
On June 28 2004 08:29 JudasT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2004 07:50 x[ReaPeR]x wrote:
On June 28 2004 07:30 JudasT wrote:
Why do the US wanted to fight Iran ? think on that... why the US want to control everything ? it's all about money and gas again ... the thing is that nobody can do nothing, but re-electing Bush won't help to smooth things ... oh wait, you can do something: DO NOT VOTE for him


At the time the US saw Iran as a greater threat than Saddam.

Evidence of war for oil theory please?

Not voting for Bush isn't smart.


Evidence of mass weapons in Irak plz ?

US shouldn't try to rule the world, and should keep pointed to it's own threads

Result of the decisions of Bush: DEATH

Why is smart vote for Bush ? do you like violence ?

I'm not trying to convince anybody, this is just my point of view !

GL


Sarin and Mustard gas we found. Where did Jordanian terrorists get their weapons. Even UN says that WMD might have been shipped out and that Saddam was uncoopretive with inspectors. I've said this so many times.

Then who should? (Not the UN)

Also result of Bush decisions, victory against terrorism, hope for people of Iraq and Afghanistan.

If it kills terrorists, then yes I like violence, compared to the alternative (more terrorism).
ILoveOOv ownZ everyone!!! ~ Lamer List: Mynock, naventus
JudasT
Profile Joined January 2003
Spain2226 Posts
June 28 2004 00:26 GMT
#140
WMD never found, the other theories have been invented by the US (UN always says and do what US want), no evidences AT ALL. Bush prayed hundreds of times to find something there to be able to justify the invasion but ... just shame

Victory against terrorism ? what are you talking about ? Bush wide opened the door to the terrorism with his terrorist policy, this is clear. And the hope for the Iraq and Afghanistan people, now ? no more hope for the victims of the war... just death.

Your final answer is great: "If it kills terrorists, then yes I like violence, compared to the alternative (more terrorism)"... summary of your vote intention, no more argues, I understand
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