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On August 26 2010 03:06 thesighter wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2010 03:00 redviper wrote:On August 26 2010 02:56 thesighter wrote:On August 26 2010 02:51 JinNJuice wrote:On August 26 2010 02:34 thesighter wrote:On August 26 2010 02:06 funnybananaman wrote:
So stupid lol.. there are so many bigger problems in america, why are people are wasting so much time and energy on this -_-
Comparing the people building the mosque who's whole purpose is to bridge faiths and stuff to foreign terrorists who just use islam as a front for their violent political agenda is totally retarded. There's nothing bad about what they're doing. Plus they've been in the neighborhood for years.
Terrorists want to isolate muslims from christians so they can make it black and white (christians vs muslims, us and THEM) because then more muslims will identify with them and they'll get more support. We should embrace regular islam in america so that way muslims aren't alienated and aren't given incentives to join the radical side. Bridging the gap between muslims and other americans is a blow to terrorism and thats what the mosque is trying to do.
Ron Paul put it well: First of all, Ron Paul is a nutjob. All recent polls show that a large majority of Americans, as well as New Yorkers, are against construction of the mosque. Why are the developers insistent upon constructing the mosque when it is only going to make people angry? At this point, the mosque is not "bridging cultures." It's pissing people off and contributing to "Islamophobia." If is constructed, it will be seen as a symbol of victory by the jihadists and will be trumpeted throughout the Middle East. The mosque is two blocks away from ground zero (it's 1 block from a subway stop, 2-3 min walk from ground zero). Doing some quick research, the closest mosque in the area is the Masjid Manhattan, which is 4 blocks away to the NW, that mosque has been in NYC for 40 years. I don't know of any other mosques closer than that one. If the developers were able to purchase property and build a mosque 1 block away from Ground Zero, they would do so. The construction of the "cultural center" is extremely offensive to the families of 9/11. I wish people would stop making excuses for the fact that they're just bigots against Muslims. I wouldn't have as much of a problem with people opposing this if they just say "Hey, we don't want this mosque here because we don't like Muslims." I'm sure theres a group of people who wouldn't want to build a Korean restaraunt near Ground Zero, because Kimchi smells like shit (if you're not korean) and it's a disrespect to the 9/11 victims. Stop pretending that you don't care that its a mosque and the reason you're offended is because it's disrespectful to victims. Just accept the fact that the reason you don't want it built there is because you're bigots. And ffs, if we BAN the mosque, THAT will be held up as a victory for terrorists. I can read the headlines now...."America Bans Muslim Mosque. Anti-American Sentiment Grows" I am not a bigot. If 60% of Americans are against the mosque, do you think that most Americans are bigots? Use some common sense, building a mosque next to ground zero is offensive. I don't understand how people don't see this. Wasn't that long ago that 60% of Americans were supporting segregating. Wasn't that long ago that 60% of Americans had slaves. For that matter wasn't that long ago that 90% of the world thought earth was flat and the sun revolved around Earth. Facts aren't changed because the majority believes something different. Bigotry is still bigotry even if 99% of the people think it is justified. Infact bigotry is still bigotry even if it actually is justified. Why is opposition to the mosque bigotry? People are opposed to the mosque because of its location. Building it anywhere else is fine. The developers have made it a point to build it as close to ground zero as they can.
You think that is as close as a person can get to ground zero? Buy a shop closer then change it to a prayer floor. It is not hard to do in this economy. "he developers have made it a point to build it as close to ground zero as they can." Guess what it is their right. Don't like it don't live in US and go to countries like Saudi Arabia.
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On August 26 2010 03:07 Zealotdriver wrote:This project is not offensive in any way. What is offensive are the haters arguing against the project due to the religious affiliation. The people who say this mosque/community center is offensive are idiots. Seriously, fucking dumb as rocks. It's a god damn miracle you morons manage to tie your shoes. The people building the mosque/community center are not terrorists. They do not support terrorists. In fucking fact, look at what the project leader, Mr. Abdul Rauf, wrote in his book What's Right With Islam Is What's Right With AmericaShow nested quote +The truth is that killing innocent people is always wrong — and no argument or excuse, no matter how deeply believed, can ever make it right. No religion on earth condones the killing of innocent people, no faith tradition tolerates the random killing of our brothers and sisters on this earth. ... Islamic law is clearly against terrorism, against any kind of deliberate killing of civilians or similar ‘collateral damage.’
Rauf is a controversial figure.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feisal_Abdul_Rauf
Refused to admit that Hamas is a terrorist group.
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On August 26 2010 03:15 thesighter wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2010 03:07 Zealotdriver wrote:This project is not offensive in any way. What is offensive are the haters arguing against the project due to the religious affiliation. The people who say this mosque/community center is offensive are idiots. Seriously, fucking dumb as rocks. It's a god damn miracle you morons manage to tie your shoes. The people building the mosque/community center are not terrorists. They do not support terrorists. In fucking fact, look at what the project leader, Mr. Abdul Rauf, wrote in his book What's Right With Islam Is What's Right With AmericaThe truth is that killing innocent people is always wrong — and no argument or excuse, no matter how deeply believed, can ever make it right. No religion on earth condones the killing of innocent people, no faith tradition tolerates the random killing of our brothers and sisters on this earth. ... Islamic law is clearly against terrorism, against any kind of deliberate killing of civilians or similar ‘collateral damage.’ Rauf is a controversial figure. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feisal_Abdul_RaufRefused to admit that Hamas is a terrorist group.
You just linked Wikipedia as your source. Your argument has very little scholastic clout. I can go onto that website and change it so that he loves Kim Jong Il therefore he's a North Korean Communist.
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On August 26 2010 03:12 xbankx wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2010 03:06 thesighter wrote:On August 26 2010 03:00 redviper wrote:On August 26 2010 02:56 thesighter wrote:On August 26 2010 02:51 JinNJuice wrote:On August 26 2010 02:34 thesighter wrote:On August 26 2010 02:06 funnybananaman wrote:
So stupid lol.. there are so many bigger problems in america, why are people are wasting so much time and energy on this -_-
Comparing the people building the mosque who's whole purpose is to bridge faiths and stuff to foreign terrorists who just use islam as a front for their violent political agenda is totally retarded. There's nothing bad about what they're doing. Plus they've been in the neighborhood for years.
Terrorists want to isolate muslims from christians so they can make it black and white (christians vs muslims, us and THEM) because then more muslims will identify with them and they'll get more support. We should embrace regular islam in america so that way muslims aren't alienated and aren't given incentives to join the radical side. Bridging the gap between muslims and other americans is a blow to terrorism and thats what the mosque is trying to do.
Ron Paul put it well: First of all, Ron Paul is a nutjob. All recent polls show that a large majority of Americans, as well as New Yorkers, are against construction of the mosque. Why are the developers insistent upon constructing the mosque when it is only going to make people angry? At this point, the mosque is not "bridging cultures." It's pissing people off and contributing to "Islamophobia." If is constructed, it will be seen as a symbol of victory by the jihadists and will be trumpeted throughout the Middle East. The mosque is two blocks away from ground zero (it's 1 block from a subway stop, 2-3 min walk from ground zero). Doing some quick research, the closest mosque in the area is the Masjid Manhattan, which is 4 blocks away to the NW, that mosque has been in NYC for 40 years. I don't know of any other mosques closer than that one. If the developers were able to purchase property and build a mosque 1 block away from Ground Zero, they would do so. The construction of the "cultural center" is extremely offensive to the families of 9/11. I wish people would stop making excuses for the fact that they're just bigots against Muslims. I wouldn't have as much of a problem with people opposing this if they just say "Hey, we don't want this mosque here because we don't like Muslims." I'm sure theres a group of people who wouldn't want to build a Korean restaraunt near Ground Zero, because Kimchi smells like shit (if you're not korean) and it's a disrespect to the 9/11 victims. Stop pretending that you don't care that its a mosque and the reason you're offended is because it's disrespectful to victims. Just accept the fact that the reason you don't want it built there is because you're bigots. And ffs, if we BAN the mosque, THAT will be held up as a victory for terrorists. I can read the headlines now...."America Bans Muslim Mosque. Anti-American Sentiment Grows" I am not a bigot. If 60% of Americans are against the mosque, do you think that most Americans are bigots? Use some common sense, building a mosque next to ground zero is offensive. I don't understand how people don't see this. Wasn't that long ago that 60% of Americans were supporting segregating. Wasn't that long ago that 60% of Americans had slaves. For that matter wasn't that long ago that 90% of the world thought earth was flat and the sun revolved around Earth. Facts aren't changed because the majority believes something different. Bigotry is still bigotry even if 99% of the people think it is justified. Infact bigotry is still bigotry even if it actually is justified. Why is opposition to the mosque bigotry? People are opposed to the mosque because of its location. Building it anywhere else is fine. The developers have made it a point to build it as close to ground zero as they can. You think that is as close as a person can get to ground zero? Buy a shop closer then change it to a prayer floor. It is not hard to do in this economy. "he developers have made it a point to build it as close to ground zero as they can." Guess what it is their right. Don't like it don't live in US and go to countries like Saudi Arabia.
I know they have the right to do so, that doesn't take away from the fact that the developers are only inflaming tensions and offending the majority of Americans. Most Americans are against the mosque, why do you think that is?
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On August 26 2010 02:56 thesighter wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2010 02:51 JinNJuice wrote:On August 26 2010 02:34 thesighter wrote:On August 26 2010 02:06 funnybananaman wrote:
So stupid lol.. there are so many bigger problems in america, why are people are wasting so much time and energy on this -_-
Comparing the people building the mosque who's whole purpose is to bridge faiths and stuff to foreign terrorists who just use islam as a front for their violent political agenda is totally retarded. There's nothing bad about what they're doing. Plus they've been in the neighborhood for years.
Terrorists want to isolate muslims from christians so they can make it black and white (christians vs muslims, us and THEM) because then more muslims will identify with them and they'll get more support. We should embrace regular islam in america so that way muslims aren't alienated and aren't given incentives to join the radical side. Bridging the gap between muslims and other americans is a blow to terrorism and thats what the mosque is trying to do.
Ron Paul put it well: First of all, Ron Paul is a nutjob. All recent polls show that a large majority of Americans, as well as New Yorkers, are against construction of the mosque. Why are the developers insistent upon constructing the mosque when it is only going to make people angry? At this point, the mosque is not "bridging cultures." It's pissing people off and contributing to "Islamophobia." If is constructed, it will be seen as a symbol of victory by the jihadists and will be trumpeted throughout the Middle East. The mosque is two blocks away from ground zero (it's 1 block from a subway stop, 2-3 min walk from ground zero). Doing some quick research, the closest mosque in the area is the Masjid Manhattan, which is 4 blocks away to the NW, that mosque has been in NYC for 40 years. I don't know of any other mosques closer than that one. If the developers were able to purchase property and build a mosque 1 block away from Ground Zero, they would do so. The construction of the "cultural center" is extremely offensive to the families of 9/11. I wish people would stop making excuses for the fact that they're just bigots against Muslims. I wouldn't have as much of a problem with people opposing this if they just say "Hey, we don't want this mosque here because we don't like Muslims." I'm sure theres a group of people who wouldn't want to build a Korean restaraunt near Ground Zero, because Kimchi smells like shit (if you're not korean) and it's a disrespect to the 9/11 victims. Stop pretending that you don't care that its a mosque and the reason you're offended is because it's disrespectful to victims. Just accept the fact that the reason you don't want it built there is because you're bigots. And ffs, if we BAN the mosque, THAT will be held up as a victory for terrorists. I can read the headlines now...."America Bans Muslim Mosque. Anti-American Sentiment Grows" I am not a bigot. If 60% of Americans are against the mosque, do you think that most Americans are bigots? Use some common sense, building a mosque next to ground zero is offensive. I don't understand how people don't see this.
You are a bigot.
And 60% of Americans are bigots, if that number is to be believed.
Let me definte bigot for you:
A bigot is a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices, especially one exhibiting intolerance, irrationality, and animosity toward those of differing beliefs. The predominant usage in modern American English refers to persons hostile to those of differing race, ethnicity, nationality, sexual orientation and religion.
Get it? Why the fuck do people oppose the mosque? They think its offensive or some shit because the people building the facility are the same religion as the people who committed 9/11 right? Inherent in that statement is the assumption is that all Muslims are the same, brown terrorists who beat their women and stone people for having sex. And somehow the guys building the facility are making a victory memorial or some shit because they're the same as the guys who did 9/11. Guess what bigot? If all Muslims were the same, and all Muslims were terrorists, we'd all be dead by now or at least fighting for our lives because we'd have 1.82 billion motherfuckers bombing the crap out of everything. Even if there are a total of 100,000 Muslim terrorists in the world that is only .5% of the world's Muslim population. Why the fuck does 99.5% of the Muslim population have to be held accountable for the <.5% that does messed up shit?
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On August 26 2010 03:06 thesighter wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2010 03:00 redviper wrote:On August 26 2010 02:56 thesighter wrote:On August 26 2010 02:51 JinNJuice wrote:On August 26 2010 02:34 thesighter wrote:On August 26 2010 02:06 funnybananaman wrote:
So stupid lol.. there are so many bigger problems in america, why are people are wasting so much time and energy on this -_-
Comparing the people building the mosque who's whole purpose is to bridge faiths and stuff to foreign terrorists who just use islam as a front for their violent political agenda is totally retarded. There's nothing bad about what they're doing. Plus they've been in the neighborhood for years.
Terrorists want to isolate muslims from christians so they can make it black and white (christians vs muslims, us and THEM) because then more muslims will identify with them and they'll get more support. We should embrace regular islam in america so that way muslims aren't alienated and aren't given incentives to join the radical side. Bridging the gap between muslims and other americans is a blow to terrorism and thats what the mosque is trying to do.
Ron Paul put it well: First of all, Ron Paul is a nutjob. All recent polls show that a large majority of Americans, as well as New Yorkers, are against construction of the mosque. Why are the developers insistent upon constructing the mosque when it is only going to make people angry? At this point, the mosque is not "bridging cultures." It's pissing people off and contributing to "Islamophobia." If is constructed, it will be seen as a symbol of victory by the jihadists and will be trumpeted throughout the Middle East. The mosque is two blocks away from ground zero (it's 1 block from a subway stop, 2-3 min walk from ground zero). Doing some quick research, the closest mosque in the area is the Masjid Manhattan, which is 4 blocks away to the NW, that mosque has been in NYC for 40 years. I don't know of any other mosques closer than that one. If the developers were able to purchase property and build a mosque 1 block away from Ground Zero, they would do so. The construction of the "cultural center" is extremely offensive to the families of 9/11. I wish people would stop making excuses for the fact that they're just bigots against Muslims. I wouldn't have as much of a problem with people opposing this if they just say "Hey, we don't want this mosque here because we don't like Muslims." I'm sure theres a group of people who wouldn't want to build a Korean restaraunt near Ground Zero, because Kimchi smells like shit (if you're not korean) and it's a disrespect to the 9/11 victims. Stop pretending that you don't care that its a mosque and the reason you're offended is because it's disrespectful to victims. Just accept the fact that the reason you don't want it built there is because you're bigots. And ffs, if we BAN the mosque, THAT will be held up as a victory for terrorists. I can read the headlines now...."America Bans Muslim Mosque. Anti-American Sentiment Grows" I am not a bigot. If 60% of Americans are against the mosque, do you think that most Americans are bigots? Use some common sense, building a mosque next to ground zero is offensive. I don't understand how people don't see this. Wasn't that long ago that 60% of Americans were supporting segregating. Wasn't that long ago that 60% of Americans had slaves. For that matter wasn't that long ago that 90% of the world thought earth was flat and the sun revolved around Earth. Facts aren't changed because the majority believes something different. Bigotry is still bigotry even if 99% of the people think it is justified. Infact bigotry is still bigotry even if it actually is justified. Why is opposition to the mosque bigotry? People are opposed to the mosque because of its location. Building it anywhere else is fine. The developers have made it a point to build it as close to ground zero as they can.
Jesus man. People aren't opposed to it because of its location. Its just the media stirring people up. There's already a mosque just 4 blocks away from ground zero, and its an ACTUAL mosque not a YMIA. Anyways, how far would be a distance that's "OKAY" with people who oppose this? 5 blocks? 10 blocks? 100 blocks? Where does ground zero stop being ground zero? Did all of Manhattan become ground zero overnight?
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On August 26 2010 03:16 JinNJuice wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2010 03:15 thesighter wrote:On August 26 2010 03:07 Zealotdriver wrote:This project is not offensive in any way. What is offensive are the haters arguing against the project due to the religious affiliation. The people who say this mosque/community center is offensive are idiots. Seriously, fucking dumb as rocks. It's a god damn miracle you morons manage to tie your shoes. The people building the mosque/community center are not terrorists. They do not support terrorists. In fucking fact, look at what the project leader, Mr. Abdul Rauf, wrote in his book What's Right With Islam Is What's Right With AmericaThe truth is that killing innocent people is always wrong — and no argument or excuse, no matter how deeply believed, can ever make it right. No religion on earth condones the killing of innocent people, no faith tradition tolerates the random killing of our brothers and sisters on this earth. ... Islamic law is clearly against terrorism, against any kind of deliberate killing of civilians or similar ‘collateral damage.’ Rauf is a controversial figure. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feisal_Abdul_RaufRefused to admit that Hamas is a terrorist group. You just linked Wikipedia as your source. Your argument has very little scholastic clout. I can go onto that website and change it so that he loves Kim Jong Il therefore he's a North Korean Communist.
Here you go, news article: http://www.examiner.com/homeland-security-in-national/who-is-imam-rauf-of-the-ground-zero-mosque-and-what-are-his-views-on-hamas
Plenty more where that came from. Take a look at his 9/11 comments as well, use google
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On August 26 2010 03:15 thesighter wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2010 03:07 Zealotdriver wrote:This project is not offensive in any way. What is offensive are the haters arguing against the project due to the religious affiliation. The people who say this mosque/community center is offensive are idiots. Seriously, fucking dumb as rocks. It's a god damn miracle you morons manage to tie your shoes. The people building the mosque/community center are not terrorists. They do not support terrorists. In fucking fact, look at what the project leader, Mr. Abdul Rauf, wrote in his book What's Right With Islam Is What's Right With AmericaThe truth is that killing innocent people is always wrong — and no argument or excuse, no matter how deeply believed, can ever make it right. No religion on earth condones the killing of innocent people, no faith tradition tolerates the random killing of our brothers and sisters on this earth. ... Islamic law is clearly against terrorism, against any kind of deliberate killing of civilians or similar ‘collateral damage.’ Rauf is a controversial figure. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feisal_Abdul_RaufRefused to admit that Hamas is a terrorist group.
Wow, worst example ever. Here is what Mr. Abdul Rauf said when responding to the question of whether or not he agreed with the US State Dept.'s designation of Hamas:
Look, I'm not a politician. The issue of terrorism is a very complex question... I am a peace builder. I will not allow anybody to put me in a position where I am seen by any party in the world as an adversary or as an enemy.
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Quoting from your second source....
"...Feisal Abdul Rauf, a self-styled champion of moderate Islam, was recently asked whether he thinks Hamas is a terrorist organization. “The issue of terrorism is a very complex question,” he replied. When pressed, he insisted that “I will not allow anybody to put me in a position where I am seen by any party in the world as an adversary or as an enemy...”
You take that as your proof? Seriously? That's like living in North Korea and not wanting to say whether Kim Jong Il is a raving dictatorial lunatic and then people call you a Communist. Seriously?
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On August 26 2010 03:06 thesighter wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2010 03:00 redviper wrote:On August 26 2010 02:56 thesighter wrote:On August 26 2010 02:51 JinNJuice wrote:On August 26 2010 02:34 thesighter wrote:On August 26 2010 02:06 funnybananaman wrote:
So stupid lol.. there are so many bigger problems in america, why are people are wasting so much time and energy on this -_-
Comparing the people building the mosque who's whole purpose is to bridge faiths and stuff to foreign terrorists who just use islam as a front for their violent political agenda is totally retarded. There's nothing bad about what they're doing. Plus they've been in the neighborhood for years.
Terrorists want to isolate muslims from christians so they can make it black and white (christians vs muslims, us and THEM) because then more muslims will identify with them and they'll get more support. We should embrace regular islam in america so that way muslims aren't alienated and aren't given incentives to join the radical side. Bridging the gap between muslims and other americans is a blow to terrorism and thats what the mosque is trying to do.
Ron Paul put it well: First of all, Ron Paul is a nutjob. All recent polls show that a large majority of Americans, as well as New Yorkers, are against construction of the mosque. Why are the developers insistent upon constructing the mosque when it is only going to make people angry? At this point, the mosque is not "bridging cultures." It's pissing people off and contributing to "Islamophobia." If is constructed, it will be seen as a symbol of victory by the jihadists and will be trumpeted throughout the Middle East. The mosque is two blocks away from ground zero (it's 1 block from a subway stop, 2-3 min walk from ground zero). Doing some quick research, the closest mosque in the area is the Masjid Manhattan, which is 4 blocks away to the NW, that mosque has been in NYC for 40 years. I don't know of any other mosques closer than that one. If the developers were able to purchase property and build a mosque 1 block away from Ground Zero, they would do so. The construction of the "cultural center" is extremely offensive to the families of 9/11. I wish people would stop making excuses for the fact that they're just bigots against Muslims. I wouldn't have as much of a problem with people opposing this if they just say "Hey, we don't want this mosque here because we don't like Muslims." I'm sure theres a group of people who wouldn't want to build a Korean restaraunt near Ground Zero, because Kimchi smells like shit (if you're not korean) and it's a disrespect to the 9/11 victims. Stop pretending that you don't care that its a mosque and the reason you're offended is because it's disrespectful to victims. Just accept the fact that the reason you don't want it built there is because you're bigots. And ffs, if we BAN the mosque, THAT will be held up as a victory for terrorists. I can read the headlines now...."America Bans Muslim Mosque. Anti-American Sentiment Grows" I am not a bigot. If 60% of Americans are against the mosque, do you think that most Americans are bigots? Use some common sense, building a mosque next to ground zero is offensive. I don't understand how people don't see this. Wasn't that long ago that 60% of Americans were supporting segregating. Wasn't that long ago that 60% of Americans had slaves. For that matter wasn't that long ago that 90% of the world thought earth was flat and the sun revolved around Earth. Facts aren't changed because the majority believes something different. Bigotry is still bigotry even if 99% of the people think it is justified. Infact bigotry is still bigotry even if it actually is justified. Why is opposition to the mosque bigotry? People are opposed to the mosque because of its location. Building it anywhere else is fine. The developers have made it a point to build it as close to ground zero as they can.
Because it is discrimination based on religion. Even if it was a mosque and even if it was ground zero and even if 90% of muslims the world over were somehow responsible for 9/11, it would still be bigotry to oppose it just based on religious discrimination. Just because it is justified doesn't change the fact that is it bigoted. And this time it isn't even justified.
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Some Christian priests have raped children. Will the bigot brigade also oppose the construction of Christian churches within a few miles of anyone with children? I doubt it.
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On August 26 2010 03:16 JinNJuice wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2010 03:15 thesighter wrote:On August 26 2010 03:07 Zealotdriver wrote:This project is not offensive in any way. What is offensive are the haters arguing against the project due to the religious affiliation. The people who say this mosque/community center is offensive are idiots. Seriously, fucking dumb as rocks. It's a god damn miracle you morons manage to tie your shoes. The people building the mosque/community center are not terrorists. They do not support terrorists. In fucking fact, look at what the project leader, Mr. Abdul Rauf, wrote in his book What's Right With Islam Is What's Right With AmericaThe truth is that killing innocent people is always wrong — and no argument or excuse, no matter how deeply believed, can ever make it right. No religion on earth condones the killing of innocent people, no faith tradition tolerates the random killing of our brothers and sisters on this earth. ... Islamic law is clearly against terrorism, against any kind of deliberate killing of civilians or similar ‘collateral damage.’ Rauf is a controversial figure. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feisal_Abdul_RaufRefused to admit that Hamas is a terrorist group. You just linked Wikipedia as your source. Your argument has very little scholastic clout. I can go onto that website and change it so that he loves Kim Jong Il therefore he's a North Korean Communist. Uhh... I don't think you have the slightest clue of how wikipedia works. Much less of what an academic reference is. Neither do I think you bothered spending 10 seconds to check that this wikipedia article is merely quoting a NY radio interview.
I'm not defending Rauf and I'm completely in favor of the mosque's building. But attacking wikipedia as a source is immature at least.
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On August 26 2010 02:15 HunterX11 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2010 01:58 Demarini wrote:
I think a lot of you are missing the whole point of the argument, and it's pretty clear what it is. This is not religious persecution, this is not hate against all Muslims everywhere. This is respect to the victims of 9/11. THOUSANDS of people died that day in the name of the Allah. To have him praised in the same area...it is 100% disrespectful, regardless of the intentions of the mosque. What about the Muslim victims of 9/11? And indeed, what about the Christian and Jewish victims, who also worship Allah (which is simply the Arabic word for the Judeo-Christian-Islamic God)? Edit: To clarify, there were even Arabic-speaking Christians who worshipped "Allah" by that name before the advent of Islam. It would be racist to claim that Maronites are not Christians because they speak Arabic (besides, it's not like Jesus spoke English!).
What about them? They were tragically lost as was all the others. We have honored their deaths, and we have mourned them. Putting this mosque their will do what to them. What will it do for their deaths, compared to the disrespect it will show others. Someone explain to me how it isn't disrespectful to the people that died by the way, I'd love to know.
And the first thing you said, while true, is being very picky. Yes, Allah is an Arabic word for God, it is best know by it's use of the Muslims. Not too many Christians or Jew walking around referring to their God as Allah. Regardless, I never said anything about Arabs, I said Muslims. You're acting like not putting a Mosque at Ground Zero is super disrespectful to the Muslims who died on 9/11.
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On August 26 2010 03:17 ZeaL. wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2010 02:56 thesighter wrote:On August 26 2010 02:51 JinNJuice wrote:On August 26 2010 02:34 thesighter wrote:On August 26 2010 02:06 funnybananaman wrote:
So stupid lol.. there are so many bigger problems in america, why are people are wasting so much time and energy on this -_-
Comparing the people building the mosque who's whole purpose is to bridge faiths and stuff to foreign terrorists who just use islam as a front for their violent political agenda is totally retarded. There's nothing bad about what they're doing. Plus they've been in the neighborhood for years.
Terrorists want to isolate muslims from christians so they can make it black and white (christians vs muslims, us and THEM) because then more muslims will identify with them and they'll get more support. We should embrace regular islam in america so that way muslims aren't alienated and aren't given incentives to join the radical side. Bridging the gap between muslims and other americans is a blow to terrorism and thats what the mosque is trying to do.
Ron Paul put it well: First of all, Ron Paul is a nutjob. All recent polls show that a large majority of Americans, as well as New Yorkers, are against construction of the mosque. Why are the developers insistent upon constructing the mosque when it is only going to make people angry? At this point, the mosque is not "bridging cultures." It's pissing people off and contributing to "Islamophobia." If is constructed, it will be seen as a symbol of victory by the jihadists and will be trumpeted throughout the Middle East. The mosque is two blocks away from ground zero (it's 1 block from a subway stop, 2-3 min walk from ground zero). Doing some quick research, the closest mosque in the area is the Masjid Manhattan, which is 4 blocks away to the NW, that mosque has been in NYC for 40 years. I don't know of any other mosques closer than that one. If the developers were able to purchase property and build a mosque 1 block away from Ground Zero, they would do so. The construction of the "cultural center" is extremely offensive to the families of 9/11. I wish people would stop making excuses for the fact that they're just bigots against Muslims. I wouldn't have as much of a problem with people opposing this if they just say "Hey, we don't want this mosque here because we don't like Muslims." I'm sure theres a group of people who wouldn't want to build a Korean restaraunt near Ground Zero, because Kimchi smells like shit (if you're not korean) and it's a disrespect to the 9/11 victims. Stop pretending that you don't care that its a mosque and the reason you're offended is because it's disrespectful to victims. Just accept the fact that the reason you don't want it built there is because you're bigots. And ffs, if we BAN the mosque, THAT will be held up as a victory for terrorists. I can read the headlines now...."America Bans Muslim Mosque. Anti-American Sentiment Grows" I am not a bigot. If 60% of Americans are against the mosque, do you think that most Americans are bigots? Use some common sense, building a mosque next to ground zero is offensive. I don't understand how people don't see this. You are a bigot. And 60% of Americans are bigots, if that number is to be believed. Let me definte bigot for you: Show nested quote +A bigot is a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices, especially one exhibiting intolerance, irrationality, and animosity toward those of differing beliefs. The predominant usage in modern American English refers to persons hostile to those of differing race, ethnicity, nationality, sexual orientation and religion. Get it? Why the fuck do people oppose the mosque? They think its offensive or some shit because the people building the facility are the same religion as the people who committed 9/11 right? Inherent in that statement is the assumption is that all Muslims are the same, brown terrorists who beat their women and stone people for having sex. And somehow the guys building the facility are making a victory memorial or some shit. Guess what bigot? If all Muslims were the same, and all Muslims were terrorists, we'd all be dead by now or at least fighting for our lives because we'd have 1.82 billion motherfuckers bombing the crap out of everything. Even if there are a total of 100,000 Muslim terrorists in the world that is only .5% of the world's Muslim population. Why the fuck does 99.5% of the Muslim population have to be held accountable for the <.5% that does messed up shit?
You need to chill out with this flaming, you clearly don't understand the issue. I am not a bigot and neither are most Americans. I don't believe that the majority of Muslims are wife-beaters or terrorists. However, I am opposed to the mosque because it is too close to ground zero. They can build it anywhere else, just not near there. Building a mosque near ground zero will be viewed by terrorists as a victory.
Most New Yorkers and most Americans are against the mosque. Use google to verify, plenty of poll numbers out there.
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On August 26 2010 03:22 Zealotdriver wrote:
Some Christian priests have raped children. Will the bigot brigade also oppose the construction of Christian churches within a few miles of anyone with children? I doubt it.
What kind of an argument is this. You have to be either 15 years old or younger to say something this stupid. I'm not trying to flame, but a statement like this should just not be allowed with people trying to have an intelligent debate. I recognize that the priests raped children, but come on...Ground Zero...one very small spot in comparison to the city, state, country, world, whatever. Children...they're kind of you know, everywhere.
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Lmao, ok so first off, Wikipedia does not count as an academic source, as much as everyone who's in middle/high school wants to believe. I am right now looking at the "Editing Feisal Abdul Rauf" page and I can change it so that he browses Teamliquid.net every day.
Secondly, we can say the same thing for every monument that people build for any victim. Why are they not allowed to build a tribute to their fallen victims, even though "they already mourned for them." Wtf, so now we're never going to build a memorial again because...."what's it going to do for them?"
Thirdly, Zeal said it perfectly. If we ban the mosque from Ground Zero, what's going to stop us from banning the next Islamic mosque, what if it's on the Island of Manhattan? How does distance do anything to change the fact that it's an Islamic Mosque. Saying that you can "build it anywhere, just not there." is probably the most ridiculous statement I've ever heard. What counts as far enough? 4 blocks? 5 blocks? 10 miles? One country away?
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On August 26 2010 03:25 thesighter wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2010 03:17 ZeaL. wrote:On August 26 2010 02:56 thesighter wrote:On August 26 2010 02:51 JinNJuice wrote:On August 26 2010 02:34 thesighter wrote:On August 26 2010 02:06 funnybananaman wrote:
So stupid lol.. there are so many bigger problems in america, why are people are wasting so much time and energy on this -_-
Comparing the people building the mosque who's whole purpose is to bridge faiths and stuff to foreign terrorists who just use islam as a front for their violent political agenda is totally retarded. There's nothing bad about what they're doing. Plus they've been in the neighborhood for years.
Terrorists want to isolate muslims from christians so they can make it black and white (christians vs muslims, us and THEM) because then more muslims will identify with them and they'll get more support. We should embrace regular islam in america so that way muslims aren't alienated and aren't given incentives to join the radical side. Bridging the gap between muslims and other americans is a blow to terrorism and thats what the mosque is trying to do.
Ron Paul put it well: First of all, Ron Paul is a nutjob. All recent polls show that a large majority of Americans, as well as New Yorkers, are against construction of the mosque. Why are the developers insistent upon constructing the mosque when it is only going to make people angry? At this point, the mosque is not "bridging cultures." It's pissing people off and contributing to "Islamophobia." If is constructed, it will be seen as a symbol of victory by the jihadists and will be trumpeted throughout the Middle East. The mosque is two blocks away from ground zero (it's 1 block from a subway stop, 2-3 min walk from ground zero). Doing some quick research, the closest mosque in the area is the Masjid Manhattan, which is 4 blocks away to the NW, that mosque has been in NYC for 40 years. I don't know of any other mosques closer than that one. If the developers were able to purchase property and build a mosque 1 block away from Ground Zero, they would do so. The construction of the "cultural center" is extremely offensive to the families of 9/11. I wish people would stop making excuses for the fact that they're just bigots against Muslims. I wouldn't have as much of a problem with people opposing this if they just say "Hey, we don't want this mosque here because we don't like Muslims." I'm sure theres a group of people who wouldn't want to build a Korean restaraunt near Ground Zero, because Kimchi smells like shit (if you're not korean) and it's a disrespect to the 9/11 victims. Stop pretending that you don't care that its a mosque and the reason you're offended is because it's disrespectful to victims. Just accept the fact that the reason you don't want it built there is because you're bigots. And ffs, if we BAN the mosque, THAT will be held up as a victory for terrorists. I can read the headlines now...."America Bans Muslim Mosque. Anti-American Sentiment Grows" I am not a bigot. If 60% of Americans are against the mosque, do you think that most Americans are bigots? Use some common sense, building a mosque next to ground zero is offensive. I don't understand how people don't see this. You are a bigot. And 60% of Americans are bigots, if that number is to be believed. Let me definte bigot for you: A bigot is a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices, especially one exhibiting intolerance, irrationality, and animosity toward those of differing beliefs. The predominant usage in modern American English refers to persons hostile to those of differing race, ethnicity, nationality, sexual orientation and religion. Get it? Why the fuck do people oppose the mosque? They think its offensive or some shit because the people building the facility are the same religion as the people who committed 9/11 right? Inherent in that statement is the assumption is that all Muslims are the same, brown terrorists who beat their women and stone people for having sex. And somehow the guys building the facility are making a victory memorial or some shit. Guess what bigot? If all Muslims were the same, and all Muslims were terrorists, we'd all be dead by now or at least fighting for our lives because we'd have 1.82 billion motherfuckers bombing the crap out of everything. Even if there are a total of 100,000 Muslim terrorists in the world that is only .5% of the world's Muslim population. Why the fuck does 99.5% of the Muslim population have to be held accountable for the <.5% that does messed up shit? You need to chill out with this flaming, you clearly don't understand the issue. I am not a bigot and neither are most Americans. I don't believe that the majority of Muslims are wife-beaters or terrorists. However, I am opposed to the mosque because it is too close to ground zero. They can build it anywhere else, just not near there. Building a mosque near ground zero will be viewed by terrorists as a victory. Most New Yorkers and most Americans are against the mosque. Use google to verify, plenty of poll numbers out there.
How about this for a flame?
You are a bigot, and also ignorant. Most Americans harbor deep-seated racism, ideas of sexist gender roles, and homophobia.
The mosque and the people building it have NOTHING to do with Al-Qaeda or other terrorists. It has nothing to do with 9/11. Therefore, it's proximity to the WTC site is irrelevant.
You say "the terrorists" as if they are a monolithic group, which they are not. Also, you claim that they will view this construction as a victory. How do you know this? Have you been in regular contact with terrorist groups? Even if they were deluded into thinking of it as a victory, why would that matter?
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On August 26 2010 03:25 thesighter wrote:
You need to chill out with this flaming, you clearly don't understand the issue. I am not a bigot and neither are most Americans. I don't believe that the majority of Muslims are wife-beaters or terrorists. However, I am opposed to the mosque because it is too close to ground zero. They can build it anywhere else, just not near there. Building a mosque near ground zero will be viewed by terrorists as a victory.
Most New Yorkers and most Americans are against the mosque. Use google to verify, plenty of poll numbers out there.
You can't claim to be free of racism or bigotry and then immediately say Muslims shouldn't be allowed to build a place of worship. It's a complete failure of logic to try to do so.
By attempting to prevent the ground zero mosque community center 2 blocks away from ground zero, you are essentially associating Islam with terrorism. You're guilty of associating an entire religion (not to mention one of the largest religions) with the actions of a few people belonging to an extremist sect.
Also, no one cares that the majority of Americans are bigots. You can't make a defense based on tyranny of the majority.
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On August 26 2010 03:25 thesighter wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2010 03:17 ZeaL. wrote:On August 26 2010 02:56 thesighter wrote:On August 26 2010 02:51 JinNJuice wrote:On August 26 2010 02:34 thesighter wrote:On August 26 2010 02:06 funnybananaman wrote:
So stupid lol.. there are so many bigger problems in america, why are people are wasting so much time and energy on this -_-
Comparing the people building the mosque who's whole purpose is to bridge faiths and stuff to foreign terrorists who just use islam as a front for their violent political agenda is totally retarded. There's nothing bad about what they're doing. Plus they've been in the neighborhood for years.
Terrorists want to isolate muslims from christians so they can make it black and white (christians vs muslims, us and THEM) because then more muslims will identify with them and they'll get more support. We should embrace regular islam in america so that way muslims aren't alienated and aren't given incentives to join the radical side. Bridging the gap between muslims and other americans is a blow to terrorism and thats what the mosque is trying to do.
Ron Paul put it well: First of all, Ron Paul is a nutjob. All recent polls show that a large majority of Americans, as well as New Yorkers, are against construction of the mosque. Why are the developers insistent upon constructing the mosque when it is only going to make people angry? At this point, the mosque is not "bridging cultures." It's pissing people off and contributing to "Islamophobia." If is constructed, it will be seen as a symbol of victory by the jihadists and will be trumpeted throughout the Middle East. The mosque is two blocks away from ground zero (it's 1 block from a subway stop, 2-3 min walk from ground zero). Doing some quick research, the closest mosque in the area is the Masjid Manhattan, which is 4 blocks away to the NW, that mosque has been in NYC for 40 years. I don't know of any other mosques closer than that one. If the developers were able to purchase property and build a mosque 1 block away from Ground Zero, they would do so. The construction of the "cultural center" is extremely offensive to the families of 9/11. I wish people would stop making excuses for the fact that they're just bigots against Muslims. I wouldn't have as much of a problem with people opposing this if they just say "Hey, we don't want this mosque here because we don't like Muslims." I'm sure theres a group of people who wouldn't want to build a Korean restaraunt near Ground Zero, because Kimchi smells like shit (if you're not korean) and it's a disrespect to the 9/11 victims. Stop pretending that you don't care that its a mosque and the reason you're offended is because it's disrespectful to victims. Just accept the fact that the reason you don't want it built there is because you're bigots. And ffs, if we BAN the mosque, THAT will be held up as a victory for terrorists. I can read the headlines now...."America Bans Muslim Mosque. Anti-American Sentiment Grows" I am not a bigot. If 60% of Americans are against the mosque, do you think that most Americans are bigots? Use some common sense, building a mosque next to ground zero is offensive. I don't understand how people don't see this. You are a bigot. And 60% of Americans are bigots, if that number is to be believed. Let me definte bigot for you: A bigot is a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices, especially one exhibiting intolerance, irrationality, and animosity toward those of differing beliefs. The predominant usage in modern American English refers to persons hostile to those of differing race, ethnicity, nationality, sexual orientation and religion. Get it? Why the fuck do people oppose the mosque? They think its offensive or some shit because the people building the facility are the same religion as the people who committed 9/11 right? Inherent in that statement is the assumption is that all Muslims are the same, brown terrorists who beat their women and stone people for having sex. And somehow the guys building the facility are making a victory memorial or some shit. Guess what bigot? If all Muslims were the same, and all Muslims were terrorists, we'd all be dead by now or at least fighting for our lives because we'd have 1.82 billion motherfuckers bombing the crap out of everything. Even if there are a total of 100,000 Muslim terrorists in the world that is only .5% of the world's Muslim population. Why the fuck does 99.5% of the Muslim population have to be held accountable for the <.5% that does messed up shit? You need to chill out with this flaming, you clearly don't understand the issue. I am not a bigot and neither are most Americans. I don't believe that the majority of Muslims are wife-beaters or terrorists. However, I am opposed to the mosque because it is too close to ground zero. They can build it anywhere else, just not near there. Building a mosque near ground zero will be viewed by terrorists as a victory. Most New Yorkers and most Americans are against the mosque. Use google to verify, plenty of poll numbers out there.
1.Terrorists will view building the mosque as a victory.
2. Denying building the mosque will be a victory for the terrorists.
You can choose.
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On August 26 2010 03:32 xbankx wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2010 03:25 thesighter wrote:On August 26 2010 03:17 ZeaL. wrote:On August 26 2010 02:56 thesighter wrote:On August 26 2010 02:51 JinNJuice wrote:On August 26 2010 02:34 thesighter wrote:On August 26 2010 02:06 funnybananaman wrote:
So stupid lol.. there are so many bigger problems in america, why are people are wasting so much time and energy on this -_-
Comparing the people building the mosque who's whole purpose is to bridge faiths and stuff to foreign terrorists who just use islam as a front for their violent political agenda is totally retarded. There's nothing bad about what they're doing. Plus they've been in the neighborhood for years.
Terrorists want to isolate muslims from christians so they can make it black and white (christians vs muslims, us and THEM) because then more muslims will identify with them and they'll get more support. We should embrace regular islam in america so that way muslims aren't alienated and aren't given incentives to join the radical side. Bridging the gap between muslims and other americans is a blow to terrorism and thats what the mosque is trying to do.
Ron Paul put it well: First of all, Ron Paul is a nutjob. All recent polls show that a large majority of Americans, as well as New Yorkers, are against construction of the mosque. Why are the developers insistent upon constructing the mosque when it is only going to make people angry? At this point, the mosque is not "bridging cultures." It's pissing people off and contributing to "Islamophobia." If is constructed, it will be seen as a symbol of victory by the jihadists and will be trumpeted throughout the Middle East. The mosque is two blocks away from ground zero (it's 1 block from a subway stop, 2-3 min walk from ground zero). Doing some quick research, the closest mosque in the area is the Masjid Manhattan, which is 4 blocks away to the NW, that mosque has been in NYC for 40 years. I don't know of any other mosques closer than that one. If the developers were able to purchase property and build a mosque 1 block away from Ground Zero, they would do so. The construction of the "cultural center" is extremely offensive to the families of 9/11. I wish people would stop making excuses for the fact that they're just bigots against Muslims. I wouldn't have as much of a problem with people opposing this if they just say "Hey, we don't want this mosque here because we don't like Muslims." I'm sure theres a group of people who wouldn't want to build a Korean restaraunt near Ground Zero, because Kimchi smells like shit (if you're not korean) and it's a disrespect to the 9/11 victims. Stop pretending that you don't care that its a mosque and the reason you're offended is because it's disrespectful to victims. Just accept the fact that the reason you don't want it built there is because you're bigots. And ffs, if we BAN the mosque, THAT will be held up as a victory for terrorists. I can read the headlines now...."America Bans Muslim Mosque. Anti-American Sentiment Grows" I am not a bigot. If 60% of Americans are against the mosque, do you think that most Americans are bigots? Use some common sense, building a mosque next to ground zero is offensive. I don't understand how people don't see this. You are a bigot. And 60% of Americans are bigots, if that number is to be believed. Let me definte bigot for you: A bigot is a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices, especially one exhibiting intolerance, irrationality, and animosity toward those of differing beliefs. The predominant usage in modern American English refers to persons hostile to those of differing race, ethnicity, nationality, sexual orientation and religion. Get it? Why the fuck do people oppose the mosque? They think its offensive or some shit because the people building the facility are the same religion as the people who committed 9/11 right? Inherent in that statement is the assumption is that all Muslims are the same, brown terrorists who beat their women and stone people for having sex. And somehow the guys building the facility are making a victory memorial or some shit. Guess what bigot? If all Muslims were the same, and all Muslims were terrorists, we'd all be dead by now or at least fighting for our lives because we'd have 1.82 billion motherfuckers bombing the crap out of everything. Even if there are a total of 100,000 Muslim terrorists in the world that is only .5% of the world's Muslim population. Why the fuck does 99.5% of the Muslim population have to be held accountable for the <.5% that does messed up shit? You need to chill out with this flaming, you clearly don't understand the issue. I am not a bigot and neither are most Americans. I don't believe that the majority of Muslims are wife-beaters or terrorists. However, I am opposed to the mosque because it is too close to ground zero. They can build it anywhere else, just not near there. Building a mosque near ground zero will be viewed by terrorists as a victory. Most New Yorkers and most Americans are against the mosque. Use google to verify, plenty of poll numbers out there. 1.Terrorists will view building the mosque as a victory. 2. Denying building the mosque will be a victory for the terrorists. You can choose.
1. The rest of the Muslim community likes us
2. The rest of the Muslim community hates us
You can choose.
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On August 26 2010 03:25 thesighter wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2010 03:17 ZeaL. wrote:On August 26 2010 02:56 thesighter wrote:On August 26 2010 02:51 JinNJuice wrote:On August 26 2010 02:34 thesighter wrote:On August 26 2010 02:06 funnybananaman wrote:
So stupid lol.. there are so many bigger problems in america, why are people are wasting so much time and energy on this -_-
Comparing the people building the mosque who's whole purpose is to bridge faiths and stuff to foreign terrorists who just use islam as a front for their violent political agenda is totally retarded. There's nothing bad about what they're doing. Plus they've been in the neighborhood for years.
Terrorists want to isolate muslims from christians so they can make it black and white (christians vs muslims, us and THEM) because then more muslims will identify with them and they'll get more support. We should embrace regular islam in america so that way muslims aren't alienated and aren't given incentives to join the radical side. Bridging the gap between muslims and other americans is a blow to terrorism and thats what the mosque is trying to do.
Ron Paul put it well: First of all, Ron Paul is a nutjob. All recent polls show that a large majority of Americans, as well as New Yorkers, are against construction of the mosque. Why are the developers insistent upon constructing the mosque when it is only going to make people angry? At this point, the mosque is not "bridging cultures." It's pissing people off and contributing to "Islamophobia." If is constructed, it will be seen as a symbol of victory by the jihadists and will be trumpeted throughout the Middle East. The mosque is two blocks away from ground zero (it's 1 block from a subway stop, 2-3 min walk from ground zero). Doing some quick research, the closest mosque in the area is the Masjid Manhattan, which is 4 blocks away to the NW, that mosque has been in NYC for 40 years. I don't know of any other mosques closer than that one. If the developers were able to purchase property and build a mosque 1 block away from Ground Zero, they would do so. The construction of the "cultural center" is extremely offensive to the families of 9/11. I wish people would stop making excuses for the fact that they're just bigots against Muslims. I wouldn't have as much of a problem with people opposing this if they just say "Hey, we don't want this mosque here because we don't like Muslims." I'm sure theres a group of people who wouldn't want to build a Korean restaraunt near Ground Zero, because Kimchi smells like shit (if you're not korean) and it's a disrespect to the 9/11 victims. Stop pretending that you don't care that its a mosque and the reason you're offended is because it's disrespectful to victims. Just accept the fact that the reason you don't want it built there is because you're bigots. And ffs, if we BAN the mosque, THAT will be held up as a victory for terrorists. I can read the headlines now...."America Bans Muslim Mosque. Anti-American Sentiment Grows" I am not a bigot. If 60% of Americans are against the mosque, do you think that most Americans are bigots? Use some common sense, building a mosque next to ground zero is offensive. I don't understand how people don't see this. You are a bigot. And 60% of Americans are bigots, if that number is to be believed. Let me definte bigot for you: A bigot is a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices, especially one exhibiting intolerance, irrationality, and animosity toward those of differing beliefs. The predominant usage in modern American English refers to persons hostile to those of differing race, ethnicity, nationality, sexual orientation and religion. Get it? Why the fuck do people oppose the mosque? They think its offensive or some shit because the people building the facility are the same religion as the people who committed 9/11 right? Inherent in that statement is the assumption is that all Muslims are the same, brown terrorists who beat their women and stone people for having sex. And somehow the guys building the facility are making a victory memorial or some shit. Guess what bigot? If all Muslims were the same, and all Muslims were terrorists, we'd all be dead by now or at least fighting for our lives because we'd have 1.82 billion motherfuckers bombing the crap out of everything. Even if there are a total of 100,000 Muslim terrorists in the world that is only .5% of the world's Muslim population. Why the fuck does 99.5% of the Muslim population have to be held accountable for the <.5% that does messed up shit? You need to chill out with this flaming, you clearly don't understand the issue. I am not a bigot and neither are most Americans. I don't believe that the majority of Muslims are wife-beaters or terrorists. However, I am opposed to the mosque because it is too close to ground zero. They can build it anywhere else, just not near there. Building a mosque near ground zero will be viewed by terrorists as a victory. Most New Yorkers and most Americans are against the mosque. Use google to verify, plenty of poll numbers out there.
I don't give a shit if most Americans are against the mosque, that doesn't justify anything. And I revise my statement, you might not be a bigot but if you aren't you're just plain ignorant. Explain to me how building this "mosque next to ground zero" is a victory for terrorists? If anything the opposition to the mosque is a victory for terrorists by showing Americans to be the close minded, racist bigots that many of them are.
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