Whut up Muslims! Ramadan ~~~

On August 12 2010 01:54 Sl4ktarN wrote:
Such a troo muslim, not enjoying the Ramadan for its purpose but instead longs for the end of it so you can get some money. Troo.

On August 12 2010 01:59 Jibba wrote:
'Biram' comes from 'Bayram', the Turkish word for celebration. I assume it started with the sufis (Hacı Bayramı) like all good Muslim partying does. :D

I'm in Turkey and the festivities will probably be picking up soon. Only real difference is the fun atmosphere at night and the noticeable increase in road rage. I don't think any of my Muslim friends will be fasting or abstaining from alcohol, though. :D

On August 12 2010 02:05 Jameser wrote:
there's been evidence that recurring periods of starvation primes your metabolism to stockpiling energy meaning down the generations ramadan is going to make obesity the nr1 health concern for muslim developing nations

just sayin

On August 12 2010 02:09 Diuqil wrote:

If you eat all those calories when the sun is down it will not affect your metabolism. Asked a nutritionist, thank you. Thanks for spewing bull shit information btw, much appreciated.

On August 12 2010 02:07 Metalwing wrote:


Dude I think you know a lot about Turkey. And also I remember that you were in Istanbul when SC2 was launched. How do you know this much about Turkey ?

And yes, in Ramadans there is a lot of road rage. Especially when people are going back to their houses.

On August 12 2010 02:12 Jameser wrote:

wow so touchy, also it's common knowledge that it's bad to eat right before going to sleep, this is because the body burns fat to maintain heat while asleep, if you recently ate then your body uses that instead meaning the fat that's been stored up naturally for this rythm is left there for the next day

but sure, stuff your face right before going to sleep and we'll see if it has an impact on your weight.

On August 12 2010 02:12 Jameser wrote:

wow so touchy, also it's common knowledge that it's bad to eat right before going to sleep, this is because the body burns fat to maintain heat while asleep, if you recently ate then your body uses that instead meaning the fat that's been stored up naturally for this rythm is left there for the next day

but sure, stuff your face right before going to sleep and we'll see if it has an impact on your weight.

On August 12 2010 02:15 Diuqil wrote:

It doesn't matter and thats a common fact, go to the bodybuilding.com fourms and try to spread this information, please. You wouldn't survive with your broscience there, you may on tl though.

If you really want though, I can c&p information.

On August 12 2010 02:05 Jameser wrote:
there's been evidence that recurring periods of starvation primes your metabolism to stockpiling energy meaning down the generations ramadan is going to make obesity the nr1 health concern for muslim developing nations

just sayin

On August 12 2010 02:17 ZeaL. wrote:


I eat a bowl of cereal or potato chips before I go to sleep around twice a week and I'm stick thin. Then again I can eat anything I want and I don't gain any weight =/.

I don't know much about Ramadan but I know all my middle eastern friends have been staying up late, partying and eating a ton of food, it sounds pretty awesome. I thought Ramadan was supposed to be a time of piety though,is it like how Christmas isn't really Christmas anymore?

On August 12 2010 02:19 Jameser wrote:

the reason they say this on fitness sites is that, for fitness purpouses you eat constantly to INCREASE your metabolism (many small meals = body is used to constant supply = body reacts by burning more)

this is IN CONTRAST WITH
a 15 hour starvation period and then stuffing your face before sleep

science is the darndest thing

On August 12 2010 02:22 love1another wrote:

Fail evolution. Lamarckism much? Unless you can prove this is epigenomic, this is a totally baseless claim.

On August 12 2010 02:05 Jameser wrote:
there's been evidence that recurring periods of starvation primes your metabolism to stockpiling energy meaning down the generations ramadan is going to make obesity the nr1 health concern for muslim developing nations

just sayin

On August 12 2010 02:25 Empyrean wrote:


People have been fasting for centuries. A greater obesity concern for developing Muslim nations is the introduction of highly refined and processed foods, like those found in certain Western diets.

On August 12 2010 02:24 Entropic wrote:


Glad you were able to post before I did... and it indeed is a baseless claim (not to mention, totally faulty knowledge of evolution).

On August 12 2010 02:32 Coagulation wrote:
WTf does Ruh Roh imply?

honestly if you guys want to talk about health issues make a thread about fast food consumerism.
that has some merit.

On August 12 2010 02:35 love1another wrote:

GTF back on topic, you noob Speaking of Ramadan, what is your favorite food to break fast with?

On August 12 2010 02:43 Warfie wrote:
How do you guys deal with fasting?

I don't fast nor am I a muslim, but I've never quite been able to wrap my head around how it's possible to make it through a day without eating. If I skip breakfast, I need 3 hours of sleep in the middle of the day because I get so exhausted, both physically and psychologically.

I assume it's not something you're able to do because you're used to it, as its cycle is fairly long(?). Do you drastically lower your level of activity during the day during Ramadan?

On August 12 2010 02:43 Warfie wrote:
How do you guys deal with fasting?

I don't fast nor am I a muslim, but I've never quite been able to wrap my head around how it's possible to make it through a day without eating. If I skip breakfast, I need 3 hours of sleep in the middle of the day because I get so exhausted, both physically and psychologically.

I assume it's not something you're able to do because you're used to it, as its cycle is fairly long(?). Do you drastically lower your level of activity during the day during Ramadan?

On August 12 2010 02:22 love1another wrote:

Fail evolution. Lamarckism much? Unless you can prove this is epigenomic, this is a totally baseless claim.

On August 12 2010 03:01 Armut wrote:
Fasting is not that hard suprisingly in Ramadan. I know for not religious people its about hard to understand but 16 hours a day (in summer days are longer) just passes easier in Ramadan for Muslims. For people who have real health problem like diabetes or tension (like my father although he fasts) or maybe for the people who needs to take pills or medical treatment regularly its not a must and if fasting really dangaring you its forbidden (Allah doesnt let you torture your self if you cant handle by handle I dont mean yound people just cant stand without eating I mean medically)

Anyways, may this Ramadan bring happiness, salvation to all humanity. Bayramınız Mubarek Olsun

On August 12 2010 02:05 Coagulation wrote:
if you REALLY Wanted to show your respect for god you would stop breathing air.
now thats devotion.

On August 12 2010 03:22 Maenander wrote:

I am not against people enjoying their Ramadan, whatever makes you happy, but I am quite sure there is some social pressure involved, and I hate that idea. I am sure glad I got rid of any religious ties.

On August 12 2010 03:26 Shatter wrote:
There is some social pressure involved in almost any activity people do, whether you are religious or not.

On August 12 2010 02:22 love1another wrote:

Fail evolution. Lamarckism much? Unless you can prove this is epigenomic, this is a totally baseless claim.

On August 13 2010 01:32 exeexe wrote:
The idea of Ramadan was developped much closer to the equator. This means the environment it was ment to be used in would not have 16 hour long days during the summer. Anyways what would a muslim do should he arrive to the north pole where the sun never sets for half a year?

On August 12 2010 02:51 KwarK wrote:
You just sleep a lot, drink a lot of water and take it easy. I quite often go a few days without eating.

On August 13 2010 02:06 KasdaTheEmperor wrote:


Well that's maybe your way of fasting, but Muslims can't eat/drink/smoke/chew bubble gums nor do anything like that during Ramadan from sunrise to sunset.

During the summer it's a bit harder because of longer days, however if you truly are a believer it won't come as impossible. It's the matter of faith and it's also a good way to clean your body completely and put your digestive system to rest.

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On August 13 2010 06:37 KwarK wrote:
Do not bother responding to such posts, no matter how outrageously ignorant they are, as it will just cause further degeneration of the topic. Instead just trust in the moderators to do their job.
Please consider yourself warned.

On August 13 2010 08:45 UberThing wrote:
Islam is a religion of peace

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On August 13 2010 09:23 [Fin]Vittu wrote:
have fun, and don't get too carried away and blow stuff up!

On August 12 2010 02:04 gds wrote:
If you dont respect the ramadan can you still claim being a muslim?

On August 13 2010 09:27 deth wrote:


thats pretty much like saying, if you don't go to church every single week can you still claim believing in god?

On August 13 2010 03:06 Nuri wrote:
So in other words I dont understand where the party comes in? The fast is intended to be an exacting act of deep personal worship in which Muslims seek a raised awareness of closeness to God.

On August 13 2010 14:52 Jibba wrote:

For the same reason that every other religion has parties and festivals. Most Jews around the world celebrate Hanukah (extremely minor holiday) instead of Purim, and the only reason Christmas exists when it does is because the early leaders needed a celebration to compete with the Roman holiday Saturnelia, in order to recruit. I'm sure in many countries/areas, belief/faith still comes first but in contemporary Turkey/Lebanon, etc. it's a celebration first for most people.

fasting would make me far too hungry and thirsty, and i dont gain anything from doing it so its a big PASS for me.

On August 13 2010 15:47 JohnColtrane wrote:
i dont really give a fuck why people fast, chief

it will do nothing to benefit me (in fact, itll make my life worse) so that's why I'M not gonna do it

if you are making the assumption that i dont fast because its something to do with materiality, then you're a dolt. not drinking water between sun up and sun set is bad for my body and itll make me feel terrible

On August 13 2010 16:03 JohnColtrane wrote:
like i said before, i like to exercise. i doubt i would be in good nick if i exercised and didnt drink any water during sunup. i would probably be very sick

so YEAH, fasting is over for me because of that

dork

On August 13 2010 17:52 Coagulation wrote:
Manifesto is law
whether your islamic buddhist christian or athiest
we are all guided by his mighty ban hammer.

On August 12 2010 02:12 Jameser wrote:

wow so touchy, also it's common knowledge that it's bad to eat right before going to sleep, this is because the body burns fat to maintain heat while asleep, if you recently ate then your body uses that instead meaning the fat that's been stored up naturally for this rythm is left there for the next day

but sure, stuff your face right before going to sleep and we'll see if it has an impact on your weight.

also I find it ridiculous that you react with hostility when I'm clearly just looking out for what is obviously going to become a serious public health issue (it already is in the west)

On August 13 2010 20:32 TheAntZ wrote:
Also come to think of it, does any other religion practice animal sacrifice? I just sat down and thought about it and its kind of absurd people still do that in this day and age lol

On August 13 2010 20:36 KwarK wrote:

It's no different from passing a donation bowl round, just different economic priorities. The principle is the same but livestock is no longer a common or valued commodity in much of the world.

On August 13 2010 20:40 yourwhiteshadow wrote:


except in countries with a food shortage and a lack of fast food chains.

the sacrifice is mostly tradition. however, if you sacrifice 1 cow, it can easily feed ~4-5 families. the point is, if you gave 4-5 families $x they couldn't get 1 cow because its $5x. last time we sacrificed a cow in the US it was like $900 for a cow (approx 800 lbs if i'm correct).

On August 13 2010 20:32 TheAntZ wrote:
I dont know why people keep saying that not fasting is like not believing in Allah.

On August 13 2010 19:49 KwarK wrote:
He posted about it once but I can't find it. I believe he said he just thought it was cool and it stuck, nothing to do with personal beliefs etc.

On August 13 2010 20:48 TheAntZ wrote:


Yeah here in the 'neighbourhood' where we live each house gets at least one cow/goat, and then during the day of kurbani we go on this bigass field where they're all tied up and the 3 dudes + the hujur systematically slaughter each one of them while the people who own them watch from a small hill or get closer if they want, and on the right side a bit in the distance theres a ton of people who came for the 'donations'. They get quite a bit, its kinda like Christmas where people probably make donations to charities or give more to the random beggar on the street. Kinda depressing to watch them fight each other over who gets more after all the cow/goat owners have already gone home

On August 13 2010 21:22 Jibba wrote:

Sup Bayram.
+ Show Spoiler [dead food] +
That was a small desert village in Morocco, though. I don't know anyone in the city who does it.

EDIT: Also, it tasted amazing.

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On August 15 2010 00:24 Chunkybuddha wrote:
This thread made me read lots of basic things about Muslims, and I didn't think I was so ignorant.

Zakah is a wonderful concept. To purify and grow as a population rather than individual efforts is very important.

Clearly some Muslims are much more hard-core than others; I am holding july's national geographic showing a picture of a shiite man and the caption reads: a shiite man in Lahore whips himself with blades in a ritual that simbolizes the suffering of Muhammad's grandson Husayn.

NSFW bloody pics of these shiite man whipping themselves. They do it to express their collective guilt; when Husayn was suffering, they never came to his aid.+ Show Spoiler +

Is the main difference between Shia and Sunni political?

On August 15 2010 00:50 muse5187 wrote:


Wow, some of those guys look like they are going to bleed out.

On August 15 2010 01:02 Chunkybuddha wrote:

I know, isn't it incredible. Even the locals which see it happen every year look horrified, some even look like they are going to pass out x.x I don't see any Christians showing this much remorse ever, but let's not get into that ^^ heehee

On August 12 2010 02:05 Coagulation wrote:
if you REALLY Wanted to show your respect for god you would stop breathing air.
now thats devotion.