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EternalSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden313 Posts
October 07 2011 09:56 GMT
#1301
u mad, US Congress?

yeah u mad

User was temp banned for this post.
SHIT'S ON LIKE DONKEY KONG!
krisss
Profile Joined November 2010
Luxembourg305 Posts
October 07 2011 09:56 GMT
#1302
On October 07 2011 18:00 -Trippin- wrote:
None of this would even be on the web if the US government didn't want it to be. They want it there. If you actually read this stuff, none of it is really that big anyway. It's all stuff everyone already knew about anyway. Stop being so naive.


haha, this made my day.
Us government > internet.. oh wait.
life is like fighting a dinosaur.. it's pretty hard.
GeyzeR
Profile Joined November 2010
250 Posts
October 07 2011 11:12 GMT
#1303
On October 07 2011 17:08 Shelke14 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2011 16:59 GeyzeR wrote:
I would not trust Wikileaks. It's too obvious that it is a project with aim to give disinformation.


Proof, sources? That's a very bold statement to make without actually adding any content too it..


I'll have hard time to prove something to someone who takes the information as it comes from the media, i.e. 80% of TL. After all it is just a videogame site visited mostly by youngsters.

There are some articles and forum discussions in internet. The statement is not very bold, I personally do not see why I should trust the information from Wikileaks.

If somebody is indeed interested in finding who is behind the events and what is their agenda, I would recommend to read other forums with older and more experienced people
For example:
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread636006/pg1

Just in 30 seconds of googling I found these videos
I am not backing them up, I just show that there is such point of view.



Wikileaks does not reveal any big secret. Wikileaks gets good media coverage. Wikileaks gets good funds. Wikileaks can be shut down,but it is not. JA is harmless for USA. If he presented a real threat to US, he would be punished. CIA does not need legal permission to do this.
Also it worth mentioning that those who question the official 9/11 investigation do not trust JA, because he and his files support the official version.

I did not research Wikileaks case, I've just got impression that it is created to feed us with 95% of unimportant truth and 5% important lie. And somebody very powerful is behind it.
Deja Thoris
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
South Africa646 Posts
October 07 2011 11:38 GMT
#1304
On October 07 2011 20:12 GeyzeR wrote:

If somebody is indeed interested in finding who is behind the events and what is their agenda, I would recommend to read other forums with older and more experienced people
For example:
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread636006/pg1



www. conspiracycrackpots'r'us.com is also a good site. You should try that some time.

You linked a while blog that contains no proof that basically calls Soros the devil. Way to garner credibility.
Roflhaxx
Profile Joined April 2010
Korea (South)1244 Posts
October 07 2011 11:43 GMT
#1305
On October 07 2011 20:12 GeyzeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2011 17:08 Shelke14 wrote:
On October 07 2011 16:59 GeyzeR wrote:
I would not trust Wikileaks. It's too obvious that it is a project with aim to give disinformation.


Proof, sources? That's a very bold statement to make without actually adding any content too it..


I'll have hard time to prove something to someone who takes the information as it comes from the media, i.e. 80% of TL. After all it is just a videogame site visited mostly by youngsters.

There are some articles and forum discussions in internet. The statement is not very bold, I personally do not see why I should trust the information from Wikileaks.

If somebody is indeed interested in finding who is behind the events and what is their agenda, I would recommend to read other forums with older and more experienced people
For example:
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread636006/pg1

Just in 30 seconds of googling I found these videos
I am not backing them up, I just show that there is such point of view.
http://youtu.be/qJAbzl5a9H8
http://youtu.be/brGAgrxscOg

Wikileaks does not reveal any big secret. Wikileaks gets good media coverage. Wikileaks gets good funds. Wikileaks can be shut down,but it is not. JA is harmless for USA. If he presented a real threat to US, he would be punished. CIA does not need legal permission to do this.
Also it worth mentioning that those who question the official 9/11 investigation do not trust JA, because he and his files support the official version.

I did not research Wikileaks case, I've just got impression that it is created to feed us with 95% of unimportant truth and 5% important lie. And somebody very powerful is behind it.

That talk there is typical american politician propaganda, can't believe anyone is stupid enough to believe that load of bull u talk about.. -_-
A game where the first thing you do is scout with a “worker”. Does that make any sense? Who scouts with a “worker”? That’s like sending out the janitor to perform recon, what general would do that? Retarded game.
KingAce
Profile Joined September 2010
United States471 Posts
October 07 2011 11:50 GMT
#1306
On October 07 2011 18:56 krisss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2011 18:00 -Trippin- wrote:
None of this would even be on the web if the US government didn't want it to be. They want it there. If you actually read this stuff, none of it is really that big anyway. It's all stuff everyone already knew about anyway. Stop being so naive.


haha, this made my day.
Us government > internet.. oh wait.

Assuming that the internet is some kind of safety net for you against the government is very naive.

I guess when people read "US government" they assume its limited reach is USA only.
"You're defined by the WORST of your group..." Bill Burr
Electric.Jesus
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany755 Posts
October 07 2011 11:56 GMT
#1307
On October 07 2011 20:50 KingAce wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2011 18:56 krisss wrote:
On October 07 2011 18:00 -Trippin- wrote:
None of this would even be on the web if the US government didn't want it to be. They want it there. If you actually read this stuff, none of it is really that big anyway. It's all stuff everyone already knew about anyway. Stop being so naive.


haha, this made my day.
Us government > internet.. oh wait.

Assuming that the internet is some kind of safety net for you against the government is very naive.

I guess when people read "US government" they assume its limited reach is USA only.


We all know that the US government's reach far exceeds the US borders. See illegal abduction of German oder Italian citizens to Guantanamo by the CIA, or illegal execution of "enemy comatants" (read: people that the government does not like, regardless of whether they have received a fair trial or not).

BUT: the US government does not bend or break all its rules at once, so it will not try to censor the Internet thanks to your 1st amendment. At least not for a while. All power to the US people!
"Sir, the enemy has us sourrounded" - "Excellent, now we can attack in any direction!"
BioNova
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States598 Posts
October 07 2011 14:49 GMT
#1308
On October 07 2011 20:56 Electric.Jesus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2011 20:50 KingAce wrote:
On October 07 2011 18:56 krisss wrote:
On October 07 2011 18:00 -Trippin- wrote:
None of this would even be on the web if the US government didn't want it to be. They want it there. If you actually read this stuff, none of it is really that big anyway. It's all stuff everyone already knew about anyway. Stop being so naive.


haha, this made my day.
Us government > internet.. oh wait.

Assuming that the internet is some kind of safety net for you against the government is very naive.

I guess when people read "US government" they assume its limited reach is USA only.


We all know that the US government's reach far exceeds the US borders. See illegal abduction of German oder Italian citizens to Guantanamo by the CIA, or illegal execution of "enemy comatants" (read: people that the government does not like, regardless of whether they have received a fair trial or not).

BUT: the US government does not bend or break all its rules at once, so it will not try to censor the Internet thanks to your 1st amendment. At least not for a while. All power to the US people!


Pretty sure Italy has about 30 international warrants out for CIA personel and that's going nowhere. Roman Polanski however.. tee-hee
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
October 14 2011 17:55 GMT
#1309
Via Wikileaks:

Obama has just authorized troop deployment to Africa, supposedly to combat the Lord's Resistance Army. Wag the Wall St dog? #ows


Cable search:

http://www.cablegatesearch.net/search.php?q="Lord's Resistance Army"&qo=0&qc=0&qto=2010-02-28
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
HellRoxYa
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden1614 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-14 18:03:16
October 14 2011 18:02 GMT
#1310
Am I missing something? How did he just do something when your link only shows cables up to february?

Edit: Of 2010.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-14 18:05:55
October 14 2011 18:04 GMT
#1311
On October 15 2011 03:02 HellRoxYa wrote:
Am I missing something? How did he just do something when your link only shows cables up to february?

Edit: Of 2010.


The cables mention the Lord Resistance Army, one mentions the already known training of the military of Uganda by the U.S. it was just revealed that 100 "combat" equipped troops will arrive/go to Uganda to advise/help rid of the LRA leadership.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
domovoi
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1478 Posts
October 14 2011 18:11 GMT
#1312
On October 15 2011 03:04 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2011 03:02 HellRoxYa wrote:
Am I missing something? How did he just do something when your link only shows cables up to february?

Edit: Of 2010.


The cables mention the Lord Resistance Army, one mentions the already known training of the military of Uganda by the U.S. it was just revealed that 100 "combat" equipped troops will arrive/go to Uganda to advise/help rid of the LRA leadership.

It's a worthy cause, the LRA are disgusting. "Wagging the dog" though? This isn't even front-page news worthy. Almost nobody's going to know or care.
zalz
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Netherlands3704 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-14 19:07:16
October 14 2011 19:06 GMT
#1313
Sending troops to train soldiers and help combat the LRA?

Talk about a good cause if i ever saw one.
bonifaceviii
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2890 Posts
October 14 2011 19:08 GMT
#1314
I think training an anti-LRA force is one of the most positive things the US military can do.
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 27 2012 00:48 GMT
#1315
LONDON—Today, Monday 27 February, WikiLeaks began publishing The Global Intelligence Files – more than five million emails from the Texas-headquartered "global intelligence" company Stratfor. The emails date from between July 2004 and late December 2011. They reveal the inner workings of a company that fronts as an intelligence publisher, but provides confidential intelligence services to large corporations, such as Bhopal’s Dow Chemical Co., Lockheed Martin, Northrop Grumman, Raytheon and government agencies, including the US Department of Homeland Security, the US Marines and the US Defense Intelligence Agency. The emails show Stratfor’s web of informers, pay-off structure, payment-laundering techniques and psychological methods, for example:

"[Y]ou have to take control of him. Control means financial, sexual or psychological control... This is intended to start our conversation on your next phase" – CEO George Friedman to Stratfor analyst Reva Bhalla on 6 December 2011, on how to exploit an Israeli intelligence informant providing information on the medical condition of the President of Venezuala, Hugo Chavez.

The material contains privileged information about the US government’s attacks against Julian Assange and WikiLeaks and Stratfor’s own attempts to subvert WikiLeaks. There are more than 4,000 emails mentioning WikiLeaks or Julian Assange. The emails also expose the revolving door that operates in private intelligence companies in the United States. Government and diplomatic sources from around the world give Stratfor advance knowledge of global politics and events in exchange for money. The Global Intelligence Files exposes how Stratfor has recruited a global network of informants who are paid via Swiss banks accounts and pre-paid credit cards. Stratfor has a mix of covert and overt informants, which includes government employees, embassy staff and journalists around the world.


Source
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Praetorial
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States4241 Posts
February 27 2012 00:51 GMT
#1316
On February 27 2012 09:48 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Show nested quote +
LONDON—Today, Monday 27 February, WikiLeaks began publishing The Global Intelligence Files – more than five million emails from the Texas-headquartered "global intelligence" company Stratfor. The emails date from between July 2004 and late December 2011. They reveal the inner workings of a company that fronts as an intelligence publisher, but provides confidential intelligence services to large corporations, such as Bhopal’s Dow Chemical Co., Lockheed Martin, Northrop Grumman, Raytheon and government agencies, including the US Department of Homeland Security, the US Marines and the US Defense Intelligence Agency. The emails show Stratfor’s web of informers, pay-off structure, payment-laundering techniques and psychological methods, for example:

"[Y]ou have to take control of him. Control means financial, sexual or psychological control... This is intended to start our conversation on your next phase" – CEO George Friedman to Stratfor analyst Reva Bhalla on 6 December 2011, on how to exploit an Israeli intelligence informant providing information on the medical condition of the President of Venezuala, Hugo Chavez.

The material contains privileged information about the US government’s attacks against Julian Assange and WikiLeaks and Stratfor’s own attempts to subvert WikiLeaks. There are more than 4,000 emails mentioning WikiLeaks or Julian Assange. The emails also expose the revolving door that operates in private intelligence companies in the United States. Government and diplomatic sources from around the world give Stratfor advance knowledge of global politics and events in exchange for money. The Global Intelligence Files exposes how Stratfor has recruited a global network of informants who are paid via Swiss banks accounts and pre-paid credit cards. Stratfor has a mix of covert and overt informants, which includes government employees, embassy staff and journalists around the world.


Source


That sounds pretty awesome, I'd like to work for Stratfor. Do any of the documents make any mention of the pay of Stratfor employees. I mean, corporate intelligence-that's my dream job right there, ethics be damned.
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Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States13905 Posts
February 27 2012 00:52 GMT
#1317
Wow. Just wow. This is far more worrying to me then the government documents that they released.

Corporations operating as nation states is a very scary concept. Not surprised that this was happening but the scale it horrifying. How can they make sure/prove that this stuff is legit though?
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
riddi
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom118 Posts
February 27 2012 00:55 GMT
#1318
On February 27 2012 09:52 sermokala wrote:
Wow. Just wow. This is far more worrying to me then the government documents that they released.

Corporations operating as nation states is a very scary concept. Not surprised that this was happening but the scale it horrifying. How can they make sure/prove that this stuff is legit though?


Completely understand your point but cant see someone - "forging" or whatever you should call it - 4million emails man.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 27 2012 01:02 GMT
#1319
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
February 27 2012 01:02 GMT
#1320
On February 27 2012 09:52 sermokala wrote:
Wow. Just wow. This is far more worrying to me then the government documents that they released.

Corporations operating as nation states is a very scary concept. Not surprised that this was happening but the scale it horrifying. How can they make sure/prove that this stuff is legit though?

Its quite simple really since there is so much detailed evidence you can examine; All you need is to check specifics dates, situations and events that are being mentioned in the emails. The people that sent the emails can't really deny or lie about that.
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