EPTI was wondering what everyone prefers when it comes to watching VoDs and streams, livestream or uStream? What is your favorite of the two, if any, and why? These questions are not just for people who watch them but also for casters themselves.
uStream vs. Livestream
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JDMojo
United States30 Posts
I was wondering what everyone prefers when it comes to watching VoDs and streams, livestream or uStream? What is your favorite of the two, if any, and why? These questions are not just for people who watch them but also for casters themselves. | ||
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CrunCher
United States192 Posts
ustream doesnt seem to have any ads at all. while livestream pops up a new ad every 15 minutes | ||
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Prozen
United States338 Posts
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Latham
9560 Posts
For starters add something like this: Poll: Which do you prefer? Ustream (204) Livestream (72) JustinTV (21) 297 total votes Your vote: Which do you prefer? Maybe post your opinion too, because 3 lines aren't acceptable here for an OP. | ||
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Amber[LighT]
United States5078 Posts
 when it comes to watching vods i prefer youtube though... | ||
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barth
Ireland1272 Posts
Livestream used to be terrible every now and then but I don`t really experience it anymore, everything goes smooth when watching. Ustream has a bigger bitrate cap if I`m not mistaken though. edit: Actually I think you can go way over 500kbps with Procaster? | ||
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barth
Ireland1272 Posts
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
Why? UStream is easier on the eyes, has a lot less pop up ads and can go beyond 500 kbps. Livestream on the other hand is easier to broadcast with, simply because it requires less crap up in the background. UStream requires you to login, hop on the broadcaster in order for you to start up a stream. Livestream just requires either FMLE + Cam recorder or Procaster. UStream needs either FMLE + Cam Recorder + hopping onto UStream broadcaster. That alone makes it a pain in the ass to set up a stream. Procaster is easier to use, plus it's nice when it comes to managing chat. UStream chat is meh to manage, unless you hop onto an IRC client. | ||
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Alou
United States3748 Posts
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MasterOfChaos
Germany2896 Posts
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
On July 13 2010 06:02 MasterOfChaos wrote: I heard livestream has some pretty bad size limitations or you total amount of VODs for free accounts. Does verifying the account remove that? No, account verification doesn't do anything. I believe it was either 1 Gig or 10 Gigs last I checked. They start deleting them from your account automatically once you hit the limit. I would check, but they purged my account. =( I lied. It's actually 10 GB. | ||
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tru_power22
Canada385 Posts
On July 13 2010 06:02 MasterOfChaos wrote: I heard livestream has some pretty bad size limitations or you total amount of VODs for free accounts. Does verifying the account remove that? Nope, Day[9] had the same problem. | ||
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Avid221
United States63 Posts
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InToTheWannaB
United States4770 Posts
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DollerzMercenary
United States9 Posts
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Trifid
United States23 Posts
On July 13 2010 06:01 Alou wrote: Live stream is easy for streamers. Ustream is better for viewers imo. I found Ustream to be just as easy to stream. | ||
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nihlon
Sweden5581 Posts
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SkelA
Macedonia13032 Posts
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JSH
United States4109 Posts
Livesteam like others have said have tons of ads that interrupt for no reason. Not even just the first ad that pop outs for like 15 minutes. After watching the stream for like 20-30 min, midst of a game changing micro battle, boom another ad goes on for 15 seconds and the game is over D: not to mention it seems to always cover the minimap with some ad | ||
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jgju
United States454 Posts
However, ustream does have better visual design and less pervasive advertising. | ||
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moon`
United States372 Posts
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Arco
United States2090 Posts
On July 13 2010 05:57 Amber[LighT] wrote: ustream has an iphone app... livestream (last I checked, months ago...) does not *wamp wamp* when it comes to watching vods i prefer youtube though... Are you sure that you don't mean Livestream? Livestream has iPhone support - it uses iphones quicktime player or something to watch streams. | ||
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Lightwip
United States5497 Posts
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T.O.P.
Hong Kong4685 Posts
On July 13 2010 06:10 InToTheWannaB wrote: Justin tv sponsored SC tournys in the past. Maybe a good idea if we all used there service lol. Assuming its of a similar quality Justin TV is like Ustream but they don't require you to keep a "ustream broadcast window" open in a web browser at all times. Like Ustream, they have uncap stream quality. So you can broadcast 720p video at 2000 Kbps is you like. However, I found that Justin tv has the worst network connectivity through my unscientific tests. When you're broadcasting at the exact same bitrate across 3 networks, more people will be able to connect to livestreams servers. In terms of connectivity, I would rank Livestream #1, Ustream #2, and Justin tv #3. But out of the 3 websites, Livestream has the most downtime. | ||
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exeexe
Denmark937 Posts
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Kerotan
England2109 Posts
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Slipspace
United States381 Posts
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Phayze
Canada2029 Posts
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Wolfpox
Canada164 Posts
On July 13 2010 06:38 jgju wrote: It may just be because my internet is atrociously slow, but I've found ustream has much stronger tendencies to lag than livestream, often to the point of unwatcheability. On top of that, I absolutely love the integrated chat in livestream and can never really get the chat in ustream to work. However, ustream does have better visual design and less pervasive advertising. I absolutely agree. Every since Day9 switched I haven't been able to enjoy. LAG LAG LAG LAG Chatting is better in livestream and for watching live games that makes a big difference | ||
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synapse
China13814 Posts
Livestream just does everything for you and is much better if you don't want to think about how you're actually streaming live content, but UStream works better if you know what you're doing. | ||
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Anxiety
United States650 Posts
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Epsilon8
Canada173 Posts
On July 13 2010 06:31 nihlon wrote: I like the chat in livestream, the way it overlap transparently over the video. As for the quality I've found good and bad on both, so I'll give the edge to livestream as a viewer. I agree with the chat being easier on live stream. For UStream you must register and even then it limits your chat to like a line every 15 seconds. For live stream you just make a temp name and chat away. However, I still prefer UStream because in my experience it crashes less. Day[9] had a lot of problems nearing the end of his stay on live stream and since hes been streaming on UStream I rarely see him have problems. The only experience I've had with the two sites have been watching Day[9] though so I don't know 100 % which one would be better. All kinds of different experiences make me wonder  if we can actually say if there is one that is 'better'. | ||
Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
I do like Ustream because you can customize and do a lot more with your stream than on livestream. I don't really care about the fact that you can go above 500 bitrate on ustream anyway. I feel that if I did that, there'd be too many people with sucky enough internet that they wouldn't be able to watch. That might be what's going on with Day[9] for the people who experience lag. Justin.tv has a cap on people from each country (for whatever reason), so that's a no go. | ||
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Qzy
Denmark1121 Posts
On July 14 2010 02:06 Mystlord wrote:I do like Ustream because you can customize and do a lot more with your stream than on livestream. I don't really care about the fact that you can go above 500 bitrate on ustream anyway. I feel that if I did that, there'd be too many people with sucky enough internet that they wouldn't be able to watch. That might be what's going on with Day[9] for the people who experience lag. No... If anything, it's his sucky PC or the servers. | ||
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Epsilon8
Canada173 Posts
On July 14 2010 02:09 Qzy wrote: No... If anything, it's his sucky PC or the servers. Woah, Woah. You dissin Day[9]'s computer lol? Anyways, I thought he had gotten an awesome new one from all the donations. So I don't think that would be the case. | ||
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setzer
United States3284 Posts
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Heyoka
Katowice25012 Posts
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Epsilon8
Canada173 Posts
On July 14 2010 02:57 heyoka wrote: Livestream fucks with my browser something fierce. Ustream doesn't do shit - also it has the feature that lets you pop it out and maximize it on a second monitor so its much better for watching to me. Wow I didn't even know that. That's awesome! Where is that on the web page? | ||
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Selth
United States469 Posts
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TSM
Great Britain584 Posts
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wishbones
Canada2600 Posts
On July 13 2010 05:56 Latham wrote: Geez, this OP sucks. Please put some effort and content into your OP. For starters add something like this: Poll: Which do you prefer? Ustream (204) Livestream (72) JustinTV (21) 297 total votes Your vote: Which do you prefer? Maybe post your opinion too, because 3 lines aren't acceptable here for an OP. so mean BUT TRUE! | ||
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T.O.P.
Hong Kong4685 Posts
On July 14 2010 02:09 Qzy wrote: No... If anything, it's his sucky PC or the servers. No, I think Ustream just has inferior connectivity to the internet. Maybe they use a cheaper blend of backbone providers but it's true that much more people complain about lag issues, especially those who don't like in the United States. | ||
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Mindcrime
United States6899 Posts
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hacklebeast
United States5090 Posts
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Umbrella
Taiwan936 Posts
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cujo2k
Canada1044 Posts
both ustream and justin.tv are solid imo | ||
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geno
United States1404 Posts
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tofucake
Hyrule19049 Posts
2) Chat is easier. ustream uses IRC as its backbone, which makes moderating soooo much easier. Plus, I can disable the chat and run it from my IRC client. On my old PC, popout video + third party chat client is the best combination. 3) Stream quality - ustream is just so much better. | ||
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Radnewt
United States67 Posts
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Grobyc
Canada18410 Posts
a) uStream bug doesn't allow me to watch uStream streams half the time. Needless to say, this is ridiculously stupid. b) Livestream is a lot easier to use and manage as the streamer. c) You can go over the 500kbps limit using Procaster. People saying you can't are simply wrong. d) uStream fps seems to bottleneck a lot when I stream with it and watch other uStream streams. Not always, but a lot. e) I like Livestream chat better. | ||
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Zzoram
Canada7115 Posts
The Ustream app only lets you watch a few featured streams, none of which cover live SCII tournaments. | ||
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I_Love_Bacon
United States5765 Posts
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Suffo
United States936 Posts
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Stone
United Kingdom155 Posts
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MelnaisKrauklis
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UFO
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vyyye
Sweden3917 Posts
Setting up that without buying a proper mixer for ustream/JTV is horrible and just not practical, so livestream is preferred for me. On the other hand, I much prefer watching Ustream and JTV because there's less risk for lag and in general (I guess the more techsavy tends to lean towards the two) the quality is superior. Edit: I realize it's an old thread but I remember searching a lot when I started streaming for this type of thread so figured I'd just add my own take. Not to mention that it was already bumped! | ||
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dan_dark
Peru127 Posts
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Craton
United States17250 Posts
FMLE/UStream is pretty easy to use once you've done it once or twice. | ||
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wishbones
Canada2600 Posts
wait tho, has ustream woken up and made an installable stream program yet? or did they always have one and i didn't look properly and might of missed it? | ||
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adeezy
United States1428 Posts
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Reptilia
Chile913 Posts
but ustream lags therefore livestream and everyother stream site, and mostly own3dtv, lags like crazy for me | ||
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bubO
United States367 Posts
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Precision
United States67 Posts
On December 05 2010 14:05 Reptilia wrote: livestream has ads but ustream lags therefore livestream and everyother stream site, and mostly own3dtv, likes like crazy for me I think when you say that ustream lags, it probably lags just for you because I haven't had any problems with ustream lagging at all. And also ustream has ads too. O.o I personally prefer ustream just because its streaming quality is better than Livestream (unless you pay for Livestream's premium). And Livestream has been having a problem with ads that show a black screen after a full-screen ad. I haven't noticed it as much, but it still exists here and there. | ||
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Zergneedsfood
United States10671 Posts
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Senx
Sweden5901 Posts
So ustream. But Livestream is obviously easier to setup and use, so I understand why alot of people like it. For major casts though, ustream should be a given. | ||
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mdma-_-
Nauru1213 Posts
livestream has crappy quality ustream ads r way to annoying | ||
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Blyadischa
419 Posts
On July 13 2010 05:57 Amber[LighT] wrote: ustream has an iphone app... livestream (last I checked, months ago...) does not *wamp wamp* when it comes to watching vods i prefer youtube though... You can watch streams sometimes directly from the website. I prefer, on my iPod, to watch livestream even though there is about a 50/50 chance that it will say "this page is not mobile compatible yet" because the ustream app literally only gives you a selection of 20 "favored / popular" streams, none of which are ones that are relevant for me (dog cams, random radio talk shows etc.) Above all however, justin.tv and own3d. | ||
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R1CH
Netherlands10340 Posts
On December 05 2010 06:56 Stone[MB] wrote: my only beef with ustream is the logo covers unit pop, and chat login is buggy as hell. The streamers can choose where they want the ustream logo, most are just too lazy to change it. | ||
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