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_fool
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands682 Posts
April 13 2015 20:42 GMT
#12221
On April 14 2015 04:56 boon2537 wrote:
I chose to do a simple tic-tac-toe with an A.I. in Lisp as a project for my programming language class. Since I'm a noob with functional stuff, I just abuse progn make life easy for myself. I just hope my professor doesn't mind that too much >.<


Guess what: professors usually don't work that way
"News is to the mind what sugar is to the body"
boon2537
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States905 Posts
April 13 2015 21:18 GMT
#12222
On April 14 2015 05:42 _fool wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2015 04:56 boon2537 wrote:
I chose to do a simple tic-tac-toe with an A.I. in Lisp as a project for my programming language class. Since I'm a noob with functional stuff, I just abuse progn make life easy for myself. I just hope my professor doesn't mind that too much >.<


Guess what: professors usually don't work that way

That's why I'm getting it done early so that I can ask my professor if he's gonna fail me if I turn in that code, haha.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
April 13 2015 22:50 GMT
#12223
On April 14 2015 06:18 boon2537 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2015 05:42 _fool wrote:
On April 14 2015 04:56 boon2537 wrote:
I chose to do a simple tic-tac-toe with an A.I. in Lisp as a project for my programming language class. Since I'm a noob with functional stuff, I just abuse progn make life easy for myself. I just hope my professor doesn't mind that too much >.<


Guess what: professors usually don't work that way

That's why I'm getting it done early so that I can ask my professor if he's gonna fail me if I turn in that code, haha.


I recommend asking him before you do any work that might be pointless.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
April 13 2015 23:48 GMT
#12224
On April 14 2015 04:56 boon2537 wrote:
I chose to do a simple tic-tac-toe with an A.I. in Lisp as a project for my programming language class. Since I'm a noob with functional stuff, I just abuse progn make life easy for myself. I just hope my professor doesn't mind that too much >.<


Just do some project where functional programming makes more sense than OOP. E.g. some people say multi-threaded applications, but I don't know.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17692 Posts
April 14 2015 01:53 GMT
#12225
On April 13 2015 23:32 sabas123 wrote:

public function setClient($input){
$this->clients[$input];
}



Herein lies your problem as explained before. $this->clients[$input] is nothing more than a pointer to the array index $input. It doesn't set any value.

If you're trying to get an associative array you have to set it this way:


$this->clients[$key] = $value;


If you want a regular array you want to do it this way:


$this->clients[] = $value;


Or this way:


array_push($this->clients, $value);

Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
sabas123
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands3122 Posts
April 14 2015 07:42 GMT
#12226
On April 14 2015 10:53 Manit0u wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2015 23:32 sabas123 wrote:

public function setClient($input){
$this->clients[$input];
}



Herein lies your problem as explained before. $this->clients[$input] is nothing more than a pointer to the array index $input. It doesn't set any value.

If you're trying to get an associative array you have to set it this way:


$this->clients[$key] = $value;


If you want a regular array you want to do it this way:


$this->clients[] = $value;


Or this way:


array_push($this->clients, $value);


ow ye your rightT_T

I have this in my setters now

$this->clients[]=$value;


I think it has something to do with the scope of the variable, since it will only return the value from the method where I give it an extra value.
The harder it becomes, the more you should focus on the basics.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18232 Posts
April 14 2015 09:50 GMT
#12227
On April 14 2015 16:42 sabas123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2015 10:53 Manit0u wrote:
On April 13 2015 23:32 sabas123 wrote:

public function setClient($input){
$this->clients[$input];
}



Herein lies your problem as explained before. $this->clients[$input] is nothing more than a pointer to the array index $input. It doesn't set any value.

If you're trying to get an associative array you have to set it this way:


$this->clients[$key] = $value;


If you want a regular array you want to do it this way:


$this->clients[] = $value;


Or this way:


array_push($this->clients, $value);


ow ye your rightT_T

I have this in my setters now

$this->clients[]=$value;


I think it has something to do with the scope of the variable, since it will only return the value from the method where I give it an extra value.

That doesn't make much sense. You will have to post more of the code, because what manitou and I posted should work. If it doesn't, you are either messing with the variable in some other method, or you are not using our code correctly.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17692 Posts
April 14 2015 11:43 GMT
#12228
Possible error is not giving the setter a required parameter:


// this is bad
public function setVal()
{
$this->vals[] = $val;
}

// this is good
public function setVal($val)
{
$this->vals[] = $val;
}
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
sabas123
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands3122 Posts
April 14 2015 12:38 GMT
#12229
On April 14 2015 20:43 Manit0u wrote:
Possible error is not giving the setter a required parameter:


// this is bad
public function setVal()
{
$this->vals[] = $val;
}

// this is good
public function setVal($val)
{
$this->vals[] = $val;
}

I had that aswell but apperntly it doesn't matter, even if I hard code it the value it doesn't work.

The harder it becomes, the more you should focus on the basics.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18232 Posts
April 14 2015 12:54 GMT
#12230
On April 14 2015 21:38 sabas123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2015 20:43 Manit0u wrote:
Possible error is not giving the setter a required parameter:


// this is bad
public function setVal()
{
$this->vals[] = $val;
}

// this is good
public function setVal($val)
{
$this->vals[] = $val;
}

I had that aswell but apperntly it doesn't matter, even if I hard code it the value it doesn't work.


Post your code, because something is wrong. If it's big, spoiler it, but if you don't show us what is wrong, we cannot help.

If you happen to be using a (very) old version of PHP, things might be going wrong. Before PHP 5.0, the object model was basically non-existent, so if for some strange reason you are using a PHP version < 5, everything we have been saying could be wrong (and you should upgrade your PHP version). Using anything older than 5.3 is (strongly) not recommended, and even that is no longer supported. 5.4 is stable, but for new development I wouldn't use anything older than 5.5 for "normal" applications.
sabas123
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands3122 Posts
April 14 2015 16:13 GMT
#12231
On April 14 2015 21:54 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2015 21:38 sabas123 wrote:
On April 14 2015 20:43 Manit0u wrote:
Possible error is not giving the setter a required parameter:


// this is bad
public function setVal()
{
$this->vals[] = $val;
}

// this is good
public function setVal($val)
{
$this->vals[] = $val;
}

I had that aswell but apperntly it doesn't matter, even if I hard code it the value it doesn't work.


Post your code, because something is wrong. If it's big, spoiler it, but if you don't show us what is wrong, we cannot help.

If you happen to be using a (very) old version of PHP, things might be going wrong. Before PHP 5.0, the object model was basically non-existent, so if for some strange reason you are using a PHP version < 5, everything we have been saying could be wrong (and you should upgrade your PHP version). Using anything older than 5.3 is (strongly) not recommended, and even that is no longer supported. 5.4 is stable, but for new development I wouldn't use anything older than 5.5 for "normal" applications.

the getter/setter
https://github.com/sabastiaan/alChat/blob/master/chatroom.php

the place where it gets called
setter on line 85
getter on lin 86
https://github.com/sabastiaan/alChat/blob/master/server.php


The harder it becomes, the more you should focus on the basics.
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
April 14 2015 17:15 GMT
#12232
On April 14 2015 08:48 darkness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2015 04:56 boon2537 wrote:
I chose to do a simple tic-tac-toe with an A.I. in Lisp as a project for my programming language class. Since I'm a noob with functional stuff, I just abuse progn make life easy for myself. I just hope my professor doesn't mind that too much >.<


Just do some project where functional programming makes more sense than OOP. E.g. some people say multi-threaded applications, but I don't know.

Depends on how you define "makes sense". For multithreading it makes sense because immutability makes life easy there. But that doesn't mean that features will translate naturally into functional code. Many things that are related to mathematics will be much easier to express in functional code.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18232 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-14 17:44:16
April 14 2015 17:43 GMT
#12233
On April 15 2015 01:13 sabas123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2015 21:54 Acrofales wrote:
On April 14 2015 21:38 sabas123 wrote:
On April 14 2015 20:43 Manit0u wrote:
Possible error is not giving the setter a required parameter:


// this is bad
public function setVal()
{
$this->vals[] = $val;
}

// this is good
public function setVal($val)
{
$this->vals[] = $val;
}

I had that aswell but apperntly it doesn't matter, even if I hard code it the value it doesn't work.


Post your code, because something is wrong. If it's big, spoiler it, but if you don't show us what is wrong, we cannot help.

If you happen to be using a (very) old version of PHP, things might be going wrong. Before PHP 5.0, the object model was basically non-existent, so if for some strange reason you are using a PHP version < 5, everything we have been saying could be wrong (and you should upgrade your PHP version). Using anything older than 5.3 is (strongly) not recommended, and even that is no longer supported. 5.4 is stable, but for new development I wouldn't use anything older than 5.5 for "normal" applications.

the getter/setter
https://github.com/sabastiaan/alChat/blob/master/chatroom.php

the place where it gets called
setter on line 85
getter on lin 86
https://github.com/sabastiaan/alChat/blob/master/server.php




The good news is, you chatroom code is working. The bad news is that this probably means something else in your code is broken, if you aren't getting this to work in your full example.

Run this code snippet to test your chatroom:

<?php
require('chatroom.php');

$test = new chatroom();
echo "type of clients: " . gettype($test->getClients()) . "\n";
echo "length of clients: " . sizeof($test->getClients()) . "\n";
for($i = 0; $i < 10; $i++) {
$test->addClient($i);
}
echo "new length of clients: " . sizeof($test->getClients()) . "\n";
foreach ($test->getClients() as $t) {
echo "element: " . $t . "\n";
}

?>


This prints:

type of clients: array
length of clients: 0
new length of clients: 10
element: *some hardcoded test value*
element: *some hardcoded test value*
element: *some hardcoded test value*
element: *some hardcoded test value*
element: *some hardcoded test value*
element: *some hardcoded test value*
element: *some hardcoded test value*
element: *some hardcoded test value*
element: *some hardcoded test value*
element: *some hardcoded test value*

As one would expect. If we change chatroom.php to actually add $input to the array instead of adding your hardcoded string, then it faithfully adds the numbers 0 through 9 to your array, as is expected.


Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
April 14 2015 17:46 GMT
#12234
On April 14 2015 08:48 darkness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2015 04:56 boon2537 wrote:
I chose to do a simple tic-tac-toe with an A.I. in Lisp as a project for my programming language class. Since I'm a noob with functional stuff, I just abuse progn make life easy for myself. I just hope my professor doesn't mind that too much >.<


Just do some project where functional programming makes more sense than OOP. E.g. some people say multi-threaded applications, but I don't know.

That got me thinking. I feel that might be too optimistic with the multi-threading.

In functional programming, the control structures like "if" and "for" and "while" and even the ";" from the languages you know, you can build your own! Your own stuff will look as if it came with the language. That would apply to Lisp. I've seen someone write that in their production code 25% of lines of code was spent on writing these "macros", so it seems this is not an obscure idea. I guess that you can do that in a language would be neat for adding something that you think will help you for your own parallel stuff.

Then there's an idea "immutability by default" in some languages that will help with parallel stuff, though that's not for Lisp in general. Mutability means you can change the contents of a variable, so that's what you know as normal. This means if you have built yourself a control structure where you want to hide that it's really doing the evaluation in parallel, perhaps something like "foreach x in (...) do (...)", you can't make it perfect and safe. It will break if the code you want to use with it changes something that will influence the same code running in parallel. I think a typical Lisp can't help you with that. There's a popular dialect named "Clojure" that's built around immutability-by-default.

So I'm thinking that's too optimistic to say that functional programming in general is something for multi-threaded stuff. When you write your code, it also needs some added special rules that are invisible in the code and that you just have to keep in mind. But on the other hand, there are some languages where everything you declare is "immutable" and that would help a lot, and those seem to all be functional programming ones?
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17692 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-14 17:58:59
April 14 2015 17:47 GMT
#12235
On April 15 2015 01:13 sabas123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2015 21:54 Acrofales wrote:
On April 14 2015 21:38 sabas123 wrote:
On April 14 2015 20:43 Manit0u wrote:
Possible error is not giving the setter a required parameter:


// this is bad
public function setVal()
{
$this->vals[] = $val;
}

// this is good
public function setVal($val)
{
$this->vals[] = $val;
}

I had that aswell but apperntly it doesn't matter, even if I hard code it the value it doesn't work.


Post your code, because something is wrong. If it's big, spoiler it, but if you don't show us what is wrong, we cannot help.

If you happen to be using a (very) old version of PHP, things might be going wrong. Before PHP 5.0, the object model was basically non-existent, so if for some strange reason you are using a PHP version < 5, everything we have been saying could be wrong (and you should upgrade your PHP version). Using anything older than 5.3 is (strongly) not recommended, and even that is no longer supported. 5.4 is stable, but for new development I wouldn't use anything older than 5.5 for "normal" applications.

the getter/setter
https://github.com/sabastiaan/alChat/blob/master/chatroom.php

the place where it gets called
setter on line 85
getter on lin 86
https://github.com/sabastiaan/alChat/blob/master/server.php


What exactly does this line do?


$system->getRoomList()->getRoom(1)


If this returns new room or new instance of room each time then no wonder it's returning empty arrays if you first get it this way to set some values and then try to do the same with getters.


$setter = $system->getRoomList()->getRoom(1)->addClient();
$getter = $system->getRoomList()->getRoom(1)->getClients();


Should be:


// this preferably set outside of the loop, not inside of it
$chatroom = $system->getRoomList()->getRoom(1);

$chatroom->addClient();
$chatroom->getClients();


Basic DRY principle.

Some other concerns (barring the code formatting, you should work on that - sorry to nitpick like that but I got used to it from work when your merge requests get turned down if you have one space too many or too few):

1. public function sendMessage, this is wrong, you take $msg as an argument and then try to invoke it with $smg, this won't do what you want.

2. In your chatroom class you're operating on class attributes which you don't set in the constructor first, this might end badly for you since you might run into problems with undefined variables (especially that you try and do something with them, treating them as arrays, that's just begging for an undefined index exception).

3. Your 'deleteChatroom' method... You can't unset a class in PHP, especially not from inside of it... You have destructors for that (google php __destruct()). The unset will simply remove a single reference to the object.

4. Why are you doing so much manual memory juggling?

I mean...


while (true) {
$somevar = something;

// do stuff

unset($somevar);
}


You're manually doing something that'll be done automatically anyway.

5. You really shouldn't use die() in smaller methods. It kills the entire application...

6. Just a nitpick, but if your file only contains PHP code (as it should) you shouldn't use the closing tag (?>) at the end of file for security reasons.

Those are the most glaring issues I've found by quickly skimming through the provided files. When I have more time I'll take a more thorough look at them (or maybe Arcofales will).
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-14 19:01:47
April 14 2015 18:51 GMT
#12236
On April 15 2015 02:46 Ropid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2015 08:48 darkness wrote:
On April 14 2015 04:56 boon2537 wrote:
I chose to do a simple tic-tac-toe with an A.I. in Lisp as a project for my programming language class. Since I'm a noob with functional stuff, I just abuse progn make life easy for myself. I just hope my professor doesn't mind that too much >.<


Just do some project where functional programming makes more sense than OOP. E.g. some people say multi-threaded applications, but I don't know.

That got me thinking. I feel that might be too optimistic with the multi-threading.

In functional programming, the control structures like "if" and "for" and "while" and even the ";" from the languages you know, you can build your own! Your own stuff will look as if it came with the language. That would apply to Lisp. I've seen someone write that in their production code 25% of lines of code was spent on writing these "macros", so it seems this is not an obscure idea. I guess that you can do that in a language would be neat for adding something that you think will help you for your own parallel stuff.

Then there's an idea "immutability by default" in some languages that will help with parallel stuff, though that's not for Lisp in general. Mutability means you can change the contents of a variable, so that's what you know as normal. This means if you have built yourself a control structure where you want to hide that it's really doing the evaluation in parallel, perhaps something like "foreach x in (...) do (...)", you can't make it perfect and safe. It will break if the code you want to use with it changes something that will influence the same code running in parallel. I think a typical Lisp can't help you with that. There's a popular dialect named "Clojure" that's built around immutability-by-default.

So I'm thinking that's too optimistic to say that functional programming in general is something for multi-threaded stuff. When you write your code, it also needs some added special rules that are invisible in the code and that you just have to keep in mind. But on the other hand, there are some languages where everything you declare is "immutable" and that would help a lot, and those seem to all be functional programming ones?


Yeah, you may be right. I don't do any functional programming other than the one that is included in C#/C++. Just lambdas and LINQ actually. I still find the idea of immutability in functional programming to solve multithreaded problems a bit of a joke because you can have immutability in any other OOP language. Even if you have to use wrappers for that. It shouldn't be so simple to just use immutable data, and frankly, the world isn't static, so I don't like the idea of immutability.

On April 14 2015 04:56 boon2537 wrote:
I chose to do a simple tic-tac-toe with an A.I. in Lisp as a project for my programming language class. Since I'm a noob with functional stuff, I just abuse progn make life easy for myself. I just hope my professor doesn't mind that too much >.<


This kind of project can be done in no more than 2 weeks while at university. I had a similar assignment in my final year, which didn't include AI, but even if you give it 3 weeks, it's still too short for a project. I also wasn't very familiar with Objective-C (assignment's programming language) back then.

Edit: Nevermind, previous year students had to do tic-tac-toe. It was 'Four in a line' for my class. Or, 'Connect Four' for some people: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Connect_Four
sabas123
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands3122 Posts
April 14 2015 19:05 GMT
#12237
Thank you everybody for taking the time to help me<3

@Acrofales
thanks for testing

@Manit0u
$system->getRoomList()->getRoom(1) it shouldn't return a new array everything time, since it has to keep an index of all the chatroom objects.

1. thanks didn't see that

2. What attribute are you talking about? are you sure its in chatroom since I make it an array in the constructor. or is that wrong?

3. Well thats really silly now you mention it. thanks

5. Considering there should be quite a few ajax calls invoking the script when in reality only 1 script can do something at a time I would have it die on puprose, Hope its ok in this case.

6. I didn't know that, ill look into that more.
The harder it becomes, the more you should focus on the basics.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17692 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-14 19:44:32
April 14 2015 19:37 GMT
#12238
On April 15 2015 04:05 sabas123 wrote:
Thank you everybody for taking the time to help me<3

@Acrofales
thanks for testing

@Manit0u
$system->getRoomList()->getRoom(1) it shouldn't return a new array everything time, since it has to keep an index of all the chatroom objects.

1. thanks didn't see that

2. What attribute are you talking about? are you sure its in chatroom since I make it an array in the constructor. or is that wrong?

3. Well thats really silly now you mention it. thanks

5. Considering there should be quite a few ajax calls invoking the script when in reality only 1 script can do something at a time I would have it die on puprose, Hope its ok in this case.

6. I didn't know that, ill look into that more.


Ad. 2:
array_search( $client, $this->clientList ,true);
You're doing an array_search on $this->clientList, which isn't being set in the constructor. Not only that, you also assume it's an array you can traverse and search through. In theory you guard against it with weak comparison to null, but it's still pretty ugly (passing a null value instead of array to array_search produces a warning).

Ad. 5:
If you're accessing this method via an ajax call then simply do an early return. Like return new JsonResponse('fail') or something. This way you not only stop the script execution but also get something for the ajax API to lean on and display the error to the user or whatever. You can also simply throw an exception there if you prefer.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
sabas123
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands3122 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-14 19:47:25
April 14 2015 19:40 GMT
#12239
On April 15 2015 04:37 Manit0u wrote:
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On April 15 2015 04:05 sabas123 wrote:
Thank you everybody for taking the time to help me<3

@Acrofales
thanks for testing

@Manit0u
$system->getRoomList()->getRoom(1) it shouldn't return a new array everything time, since it has to keep an index of all the chatroom objects.

1. thanks didn't see that

2. What attribute are you talking about? are you sure its in chatroom since I make it an array in the constructor. or is that wrong?

3. Well thats really silly now you mention it. thanks

5. Considering there should be quite a few ajax calls invoking the script when in reality only 1 script can do something at a time I would have it die on puprose, Hope its ok in this case.

6. I didn't know that, ill look into that more.


Ad. 5.

If you're accessing this method via an ajax call then simply do an early return. Like return new JsonResponse('fail') or something. This way you not only stop the script execution but also get something for the ajax API to lean on and display the error to the user or whatever. You can also simply throw an exception there if you prefer.

edit nvm

also, I did some testing and it appear that I get a new array each time I call for the room,


$roomlist->getRoom(1);
$first_setter = $roomlist->setClients("some value i will pass");
$first_getter =$roomlist->getClients();

$second_getter = $roomlist->getClients();


output:
$first_getter = Array ( [0] => "somee value i will pass" );
$second_getter = Array ( )
The harder it becomes, the more you should focus on the basics.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
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Last Edited: 2015-04-14 21:26:29
April 14 2015 21:25 GMT
#12240
You're calling $roomlist->getRoom(1) but you're not binding it to any variable, so every time you call $roomlist it creates a new room instance (At least that's what it looks like).

What you need to do is this:


$room = $roomlist->getRoom(1);

$room->setClients('some value');

$test = $room->getClients();
$test2 = $room->getClients();


Tell me if it works.
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