The Big Programming Thread - Page 494
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Thread Rules 1. This is not a "do my homework for me" thread. If you have specific questions, ask, but don't post an assignment or homework problem and expect an exact solution. 2. No recruiting for your cockamamie projects (you won't replace facebook with 3 dudes you found on the internet and $20) 3. If you can't articulate why a language is bad, don't start slinging shit about it. Just remember that nothing is worse than making CSS IE6 compatible. 4. Use [code] tags to format code blocks. | ||
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Nesserev
Belgium2760 Posts
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sob3k
United States7572 Posts
So it can basically be embedded right into HTML, do I need to download anything to get it running or is it already on my computer? I need WAMP to emulate a server in order for it to run? Ok I downloaded WAMP and ran it, that's it? I don't have to do anything to set it up? How do I even know if its running (correctly)? How does the PHP script I write know about the server? WAMP says server offline....if I need it online how do I do that? How do I need to adjust everything when the site is done and set free into the wild? I just don't understand the basic idea of whats going on here. What needs to be running, where data is going, what packages need to be installed and why. EDIT: maybe I figured it out, fuck I hate learning brand new things from the internet with all the awful tutorials and ancient shit from 2008. | ||
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
On June 26 2014 08:47 sob3k wrote: After getting quite solid with HTML/CSS I am trying to learn really basic PHP. I've read like a fucking bazillion sites on it and I still just don't understand the basics of how it works and what I need to do to actually get it running. So it can basically be embedded right into HTML, do I need to download anything to get it running or is it already on my computer? I need WAMP to emulate a server in order for it to run? Ok I downloaded WAMP and ran it, that's it? I don't have to do anything to set it up? How do I even know if its running (correctly)? How does the PHP script I write know about the server? WAMP says server offline....if I need it online how do I do that? How do I need to adjust everything when the site is done and set free into the wild? I just don't understand the basic idea of whats going on here. What needs to be running, where data is going, what packages need to be installed and why. EDIT: maybe I figured it out, fuck I hate learning brand new things from the internet with all the awful tutorials and ancient shit from 2008. Sounds to me like you're trying to go from 0 to 100 in an instant. PHP is not HTML, it runs the scripts and outputs HTML, and it's a purely server side framework. That basically means it has to be installed on your server, and your server has to know to run the relevant file extensions through the PHP interpreter (in Apache, you generally do this with the httpd.conf file). The php files also have to be on the same server, so when you ask how it knows about the server, it doesn't. The server sees the .php file (or whatever extension you used), knows it should be accessible from the outside, and when someone tries to access it through a browser, it runs it through the interpreter which spits out the appropriate HTML output. It also sounds like this is your first time setting up a web server, which is a whole other mess of worms. | ||
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billy5000
United States865 Posts
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tofucake
Hyrule19173 Posts
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sob3k
United States7572 Posts
On June 26 2014 09:13 WolfintheSheep wrote: Sounds to me like you're trying to go from 0 to 100 in an instant. PHP is not HTML, it runs the scripts and outputs HTML, and it's a purely server side framework. That basically means it has to be installed on your server, and your server has to know to run the relevant file extensions through the PHP interpreter (in Apache, you generally do this with the httpd.conf file). The php files also have to be on the same server, so when you ask how it knows about the server, it doesn't. The server sees the .php file (or whatever extension you used), knows it should be accessible from the outside, and when someone tries to access it through a browser, it runs it through the interpreter which spits out the appropriate HTML output. It also sounds like this is your first time setting up a web server, which is a whole other mess of worms. yes, the web server stuff is the hard part right now. Unfortunately I need to learn how to set up basic forms/interactivity etc, which requires PHP, and to mess around in PHP I need the server so it seems like I gotta do it. | ||
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delHospital
Poland261 Posts
On June 26 2014 09:30 billy5000 wrote: Are there numerous, practical use of closures? In a broad sense, it seems to allow functions hold some "state" but I haven't come across a time when I would use it, ever. It seems like I'm on the lookout to avoid it rather than to actually use it. I may be exaggerating a bit when I say that since all you have to do is create a private function, or an anonymous function that takes the outer function's variables as arguments instead. Closures are a concept central to functional programming. In languages such as Haskell or ML, functions that conceptually take more than one argument, in reality take only one argument and return a closure (that, conceptually, takes one less argument). For example, 'max', when applied to two numbers, checks which one is bigger, and returns it. But, if you give it only one number, it will return a closure which remembers that number, and "waits" for the second one. When can it be useful? Let's say you have a list of integers, and some of them are negative. However, you don't like negative numbers and want to replace them with zeros. The easiest way to do it is to 'map' over the list, providing 'max 0' as the function to execute on each element. So, in this case, it allows you to reuse existing functions, while in most languages you would have to do it by hand. | ||
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aksfjh
United States4853 Posts
On June 25 2014 21:49 urboss wrote: yeah you are probably right. I thought that one could start with the assumption that both images are the same person and then stop the algorithm as soon as it becomes clear that the images are not the same person. That would save some time for the negatives, but since it is only one image the speed gain is probably only marginal. The way graphics processing works, there is little you can do to speed up the process. The computationally difficult part is the algorithm to turn the visual image into a data set you can work with in a meaningful way. Just getting to the point where you're making judgments about the person is (wild guess) 95% of the processing power/program time. After that, it's usually just lots of subtraction and/or division to determine likeness. | ||
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urboss
Austria1223 Posts
Can you write normal software with functional languages? Under what circumstances would you prefer a functional language? | ||
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
Functional languages are just as powerful as other languages; of course you can write "normal" software. You shouldn't think of functional programming as some form of programming opposite to OOP or such. In it's essence, functional programming just means that you use immutable data (and let the compiler worry about efficiency). Functional programming is on the rise, and chances are immutability is going to be a big deal when you try to code for highly parallel environments. Which your CPU will eventually turn into, and your GPU already is. | ||
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Nesserev
Belgium2760 Posts
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Qwurty2.0
United States7 Posts
On June 26 2014 09:41 sob3k wrote: yes, the web server stuff is the hard part right now. Unfortunately I need to learn how to set up basic forms/interactivity etc, which requires PHP, and to mess around in PHP I need the server so it seems like I gotta do it. If you don't want to set up a completely separate server, you can install XAMPP, which basically simulates a server on your computer. You install it to your C:/ drive, place your website files in the htdocs folder (make sure you change your .html to .php). After that you go to the control panel and start apache. Then you go to your browser, type in "http://localhost/[path-to-file-here]", and viola, your php file should work. This is, of course, simplified, but there are numerous videos on YouTube that will show you how to do it if you get stuck. It's pretty easy. If you actually want to set up a separate server, then that can be a hassle. ![]() | ||
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Amnesty
United States2054 Posts
I need to read a black and white image, put the data as bools in a 2D array, flip a few bits. Then save the the array back into a tiff. I've had no luck. After reading in the data, it still looks compressed. Im just using a small 30x30 tiff image with a few pixels set. If you need this file lemme know and i can message you. Any help would be so much appreciated!!!!!! Basically, this code is the example code in the documentation. I tried looking for similar questions already answered on stackoverflow for a few hours and no luck. I've been at this almost all day. + Show Spoiler +
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Nesserev
Belgium2760 Posts
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Amnesty
United States2054 Posts
On June 27 2014 12:28 Nesserev wrote: Wait... so what's your problem? If you need help with your program, it's better to dump your own code in some thread-friendly fashion... Btw, that code looks like someone programmed in C his whole life and then coded C++ for the first time... ugliest code that I've seen in a while... It is ugly code taken from an example on libtiff site almost verbatim. Its a c library btw. Part of the reason, i've had problems getting it to work correctly. What i want to put the the tiff image into a 2D array, i can't even seem to get it to read into the 1D buffer array correctly currently using their examples. Is anyone familar with this library? | ||
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KaiserJohan
Sweden1808 Posts
I have a question, can someone explain why (Boost) coroutines are so supposedly amazing? I've heard people talk warmly about it, but I don't understand why. An example of a problem solved with coroutes would be awesome aswell ![]() | ||
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Blisse
Canada3710 Posts
I find it stupid how many people in tech. get stuck in this hole where they think work should be everything they do, so "work work work side projects side projects side projects hack hack hack" all the fucking time and there's this equal community who never work on side projects and who keep the stupid "work to live but don't live to work" as a personal motto basically. It might be because I'm still in school but it's so annoying to hear how extreme both sides are, especially where some people keep advertising how much they're preparing work and side projects to get better jobs. And I get really upset reading stuff like this because I know people all across the spectrum and when i talk to them they really don't like having these mentalities projected onto them (i.e. expectation of doing lots of side projects if programming isn't the most important thing in their life). | ||
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Cyx.
Canada806 Posts
On June 29 2014 15:35 Blisse wrote: What are your opinions on people saying "work to live but don't live to work" or other shit like "chase your dreams"? Other than that it's fucking stupid that people use these quotes like they know what they mean and so they sound cool and profound, I find it stupid how many people in tech. get stuck in this hole where they think work should be everything they do, so "work work work side projects side projects side projects hack hack hack" all the fucking time and there's this equal community who never work on side projects and who keep the stupid "work to live but don't live to work" as a personal motto basically. It might be because I'm still in school but it's so annoying to hear how extreme both sides are, especially where some people keep advertising how much they're preparing work and side projects to get better jobs. And I get really upset reading stuff like this because I know people all across the spectrum and when i talk to them they really don't like having these mentalities projected onto them (i.e. expectation of doing lots of side projects if programming isn't the most important thing in their life). I guess it's personal... I have problems with this sometimes too to be honest, but I'm more just not sure which side I'm going to end up on. I mean, I'm pretty sure I would hate a job that was just *work*, you know? I can't stand the idea of a job that doesn't have some passion in it. But I also don't want to be insane about it and I can see myself being one of the people who goes off the deep end. Especially since I want to get into video games... I'm kind of scared it's just going to chew me up and spit me out. And I'm going to think I like it the whole time until one day it's awful and I can't get out. I dunno... it is really annoying when other people insist they know for me though ^^ | ||
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
I don't want to stay at home when I should be working because that'd get me fired and I'd lose my income. You should also apply this to dealing with people who tell you what you should do. You may also apply this to this advice. | ||
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artynko
Slovakia86 Posts
On June 27 2014 01:56 urboss wrote: I'm just wondering, what are the advantages of functional programming? Can you write normal software with functional languages? Under what circumstances would you prefer a functional language? There is plenty of software written in a functional languages (couchDb for example). Functional programming really shines when it comes to manipulation of data (mainly collections) and making things run parallel (due to immutability). In a hybrid language like scala you usually end up making the architecture using the OO principles and then the low level algorithms are functional. It hard to tell when would you prefer pure functional language, there are some cases where you want functional language because of a side benefit it provides, like erlang and the awesome VM it runs it, in that case you don't do erlang because erlang is functional and good for you project, you do elrnag becase the VM is incredible and writing the same stuff in C would take a lot longer. As for the hybrids I would say you always prefer a hybrid over pure OO, unfortunately you have to deal with the worse tooling, at least for the ones that I worked with. Also I may be biased since the only hybrids I worked with are scala and closure and in those cases you can always fallback to java. | ||
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